[04:05] <Geocosm> How do I make vlc my preferred multimedia application? It's not listed in Preferred Applications.
[04:18] <Geocosm> I figured it out, I guess. Not really ideal. If I go through every file type and r-click and open with and then pick VLC and check remember this for this filetype it works.
[04:18] <Geocosm> Annoying I can't just set vlc as default for all filetypes.
[04:21] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=243978
[04:21] <holstein> Geocosm:  ^^
[04:22] <holstein> its an oldie :)
[04:22] <holstein> might work though
[04:24] <Geocosm> ah you win, holstein! wxvlc. I was just doing "vlc".
[04:24] <Geocosm> I figured that worked for gnome-do it'd work for the preferred applications command heh. Guess not.
[04:27] <holstein> Geocosm: it was news to me
[04:27] <holstein> ive used cvlc
[04:27] <Geocosm> interesting.
[04:30] <Geocosm> !nice
[04:30] <ubot2> 'Nice' is a property of a process that determines how willing it is to give CPU time to other processes.  A higher value makes it more likely to give away time.  A negative value makes it less likely. Values are from -19 to 19, with 0 being the default.  For more information, type 'man nice' at a terminal.
[04:31] <Geocosm> I was wondering why pulseaudio was being mean.
[04:32] <holstein> how so?
[04:32] <Geocosm> It's -11
[04:32] <holstein> maybe an effort to keep it from clicking
[04:32] <holstein> and popping
[04:32] <Geocosm> Tough love.
[07:26] <r4y> Hello
[07:26] <r4y> Hello nit wit
[07:26] <r4y> he he he he
[07:27] <nit-wit> howdeeee
[07:27] <r4y> Howdee
[07:30] <r4y> I want to know, how do I find out what the links are for torrents I have running in Deluge?, I can't remember where exactly where I downloaded them. Is there an easy way to know?, I am asking this because I am switching hard drives and I am going to re-install Ubuntu on this hard drive.
[07:31] <nit-wit> do you mean the sources of the torrents?
[07:32] <seidos> i couldn't figure out how to do it in transmission
[07:33] <r4y> I don't know the name for it.
[07:33] <r4y> I would guess that the answer is yes
[07:34] <r4y> source being where I found the download link to have Deluge use to open the torrent, download and upload eventually, so yes
[07:35] <r4y> I also use Transmission. Their both great torrent clients
[07:35] <bioterror> ls ~/Downloads
[07:36] <r4y> ray@ray-desktop:~$ >ls ~/Downloads bash: /home/ray/Downloads: is a directory ray@ray-desktop:~$
[07:37] <r4y> I know the links aren't under the download directory
[07:37] <bioterror> then we cant know your configurations
[07:37] <bioterror> chromium stores all the .torrent files I've used to ~/Downloads/
[07:38] <r4y> I will look
[07:38] <bioterror> sudo find / |grep .torrent
[07:38] <r4y> OK
[07:39] <seidos> o_o
[07:39] <r4y> Ha ha ha, love the smily face
[07:40] <r4y> Wow, it spuwd out loads of infortmation
[07:40] <r4y> information
[07:40] <r4y> I meant
[07:42] <r4y> OK, how do I make it show me this one page at a time?, It would even be better if I could go up and down a page as many times as I want with out having to do it again. I always wanted to know how to do that. I once tried the less and more option commands but they didn't do what I wnated when I tried them before
[07:43] <r4y> Maybe I should grep Deluge or deluge
[07:43] <seidos> r4y you could try sudo find / | grep .torrent | less
[07:44] <r4y> OK, I will try that
[07:45] <r4y> I guess I don't know how to apply options for commands, I find the manual hard to understand how to use when trying to apply a chain of commands and options
[07:45] <r4y> but I have been getting better at it
[07:45] <seidos> r4y: i believe locate *.torrent would be better
[07:45] <r4y> OK
[07:46] <r4y> Mabye this:
[07:46] <r4y> oops
[07:46] <r4y> "/home/ray/.config/deluge/state/c7dbc78acab357f4f74f835b67a41ad902d90bda.torrent"
[07:46] <r4y> I forgot quotes
[07:47] <r4y> I am looking through it
[07:47] <seidos> r4y: where do you save your torrent files?  just back them up somewhere for the install.
[07:47] <seidos> then you won't need the torrent urls
[07:48] <seidos> i was looking for torrent urls earlier to see if i could share it with someone
[07:48] <r4y> I save them in home, but I want the urls so I can seed back
[07:48] <r4y> I have already backed them up to the other hard drive yesterday
[07:49] <r4y> Thank you for the help so far
[07:50] <r4y> Let this be a lesson to me. Always save the links for torrents or what ever they are called
[07:50] <nit-wit> you can set deluge to save the torrent sig where ever you want
[07:51] <r4y> K
[07:51] <r4y> I will look
[07:54] <r4y> Is that possible by going to? preferences, Downloads, copy of .torrents files to
[07:54] <r4y> If so then I can do it by hand
[07:55] <r4y> I will try that option and see
[07:56] <r4y> Hmm, I need a little more time on this.
[07:59] <nit-wit> r4y, yeah thats it.
[07:59] <r4y> OK, I am going to do an experiment but I will have to leave this connection and come back
[08:00] <r4y> but I didn't find any files for download links for deluge to use where I set it to be using that feature
[08:00] <r4y> I am going to try something else though
[08:00] <r4y> I will be back
[08:01] <seidos> ah, i bet opening the torrent with a text editor would work
[08:03] <seidos> er, hmmm, nope
[08:03] <seidos> well gedit can't read a torrent file
[08:14] <bioterror> seidos, it's a binary file ;)
[08:15] <seidos> bioterror: you can keep that
[08:16] <bioterror> seidos, try a hex editor :D
[08:17] <seidos> don't have one
[08:27] <r4y> Ha
[08:28] <r4y> It worked
[08:29] <r4y> I took the folder called deluge from the .config folder and copied to my flash drive then went to my other hard drive and dropped it in the same place on my other hard drive, then I opened Deluge and it was all there
[08:30] <r4y> including the percentages for how much was downloaded, but I am going to force check on all of them anyways
[08:30] <r4y> where is nit wit and the other dude?
[08:31] <r4y> o well, anyways it worked
[08:32] <seidos> cool
[08:32] <r4y> Ya, I know what to do now
[08:32] <seidos> i didn't really know what you wanted at first
[08:32] <r4y> Thank you for your help. I will put the commands you guys suggested into a text file as always
[08:33] <r4y> It's ok, I am always willing to try to explain it in as many was as I can because I have a hard time explaining what I want to say
[08:34] <r4y> and  I have a hard time understanding what's said as well
[08:34] <r4y> but over the years I get better at it
[08:34] <r4y> but I always make mistakes
[08:34] <r4y> but sometimes that can be funny
[08:35] <seidos> i guess to you the url's and the torrent files are the same, or at least that's what you thought
[08:35] <r4y> I am coffeed up, so I am sorry if I am some what talkative
[08:36] <r4y> ha talkative is a word?, spell checker didn't say it was miss spelled
[08:36] <r4y> Know, that's not what I thought.
[08:36] <geirha> It is. :)
[08:37] <seidos> r2d2y
[08:37] <r4y> Ooops, I thought you meant something else
[08:37] <r4y> just now that is
[08:37] <seidos> r4y: with whom are you speaking?
[08:37] <r4y> both of you
[08:38] <r4y> He said It is.
[08:38] <r4y> And that was in reply to both of us
[08:38] <r4y> I thought
[08:38] <seidos> i see
[08:38] <geirha> It was a response to "talkative is a word?" :)
[08:40] <r4y> I thought you were thinking by your(seidos) last statement that I think a torrent that is downloade that can be so many MB to GB is the same thing as a torrent link, and I know that isn't true
[08:40] <seidos> r4y: the .torrent file is not MB to GB.
[08:40] <r4y> right, I know that
[08:40] <r4y> which I am trying to state I know
[08:41] <r4y> I found, give me a sec
[08:41] <seidos> oh no, i said URL=.torrent
[08:41] <seidos> er, that's what i think you were thinking
[08:41] <seidos> it doesn't really matter now, i could be wrong, i am hazarding a guess based on what you typed earlier
[08:41] <seidos> not that .torrent=torrent-data
[08:42] <r4y> There is a file called torrents state that has links in it that only a torrent client can handle because I put on of them into firefox and it said so, so I now know that as well
[08:43] <r4y> It's cool, I just want to state that I am not computer illiterate, but I have my times of being completely confused.
[08:43] <seidos> i feel you on that one r4y
[08:44] <r4y> I am computer Illiterate to a certain extent.
[08:45] <r4y> Recently I started using IRC channels on networks.
[08:45] <r4y> It fun, and I don't want to be in the way
[08:45] <r4y> I think I know what flooding means
[08:46] <r4y> It's when to much text floods in
[08:46] <r4y> talkative doesn't sound like a real word to me
[08:47] <r4y> Heck to me polyrhythm is a word. Look it up on Google but it is not correct in Googles spell checker
[08:48] <r4y> It is more then one rhythm being played at the same time, where as a linear rhythm is where only one note is played at any given time.
[08:49] <seidos> i'm not sure what polyrhythm sounds like
[08:49] <r4y> Any drum beat, except drum beats that only have one note at a time.
[08:50] <r4y> So if a drummer plays a bass drum note and a crash cymbal note at the same time then it is a polyrhythm
[08:50] <r4y> and so forth
[08:51] <r4y> I can find a link for both.
[08:55] <r4y> My internet is slow
[08:55] <seidos> hmmm, so just multiple beats, basically?
[08:55] <r4y> Yep
[08:56] <r4y> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pidPJs15CrM
[08:57] <r4y> 3 against 4
[08:57] <r4y> That and many others, but most beats are considered polyrhythms
[08:57] <seidos> 3 against 4?
[08:59] <r4y> Yes, 3 against 4. 3 beats per measure with 4 beats per measure.
[09:01] <r4y> I started by doing 12 and accenting every 3rd note and playing the bass drum on every 4th note to make 3 against 4
[09:01] <r4y> and vice versa
[09:01] <seidos> hmmmm
[09:02] <r4y> 3 against 4 doesn't have to be 3 notes per measure with 4 notes per measure, but it is a way to explain it
[09:02] <r4y> It can be slower or faster
[09:05] <seidos> mmm k
[09:05] <seidos> i used to want to learn drums.  i lost my drum pad
[09:06] <Jomik> Heyoo all, I deleted my network connections widget by mistake and I can't see how I get it back?
[09:06] <r4y> Get drum instead. drum pads don't sound good unless you get a practice pad that sort of sounds like a snare drum
[09:07] <r4y> Right click your top panel
[09:07] <r4y> add to panel
[09:07] <Jomik> tried
[09:07] <Jomik> it isn't there
[09:07] <r4y> notification area
[09:08] <r4y> Hmm
[09:08] <r4y> Give me a little while
[09:09] <Jomik> Tyvm mate :D
[09:09] <geirha> Jomik: If you haven't customized it too much, you could just reset the panels to default
[09:09] <Jomik> It was notification area
[09:09] <Jomik> geirha, where? XD I haven't customized it at all, but it's back now - would still like to know though
[09:09] <r4y> How?
[09:09] <geirha> !panels
[09:09] <ubot2> To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[09:10] <Jomik> !terminal
[09:10] <ubot2> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:10] <Jomik> XD
[09:10] <Jomik> rorfl
[09:10] <Jomik> rofl*
[09:10] <Jomik> ty geirha
[09:10] <Jomik> and r4y :D
[09:10] <r4y> does that command include this character?:»
[09:10] <Jomik> no
[09:10] <Jomik> it starts with it too
[09:11] <Jomik> quotation marks XD
[09:11] <r4y> " »"»"»"»
[09:11] <Jomik> :o
[09:13] <geirha> « » is useful to separate shell code from other text on irc.
[09:13] <geirha> Using " " or ' '  is ambigious since those quotes are part of shell syntax
[09:14] <r4y> Too many commands saved on my computer, I am overloading, overloading, wait I am overloading. OK, alomst done overloading. OK, now I am done overllloadddinnngg.
[09:14] <duanedesign> hello geirha
[09:14] <Jomik> lol'd
[09:14] <r4y> "/"/"/"/" yep
[09:14] <geirha> duanedesign: hello :)
[09:14] <MrChrisDruif> r4y: offtopic man
[09:15] <r4y> I know. Sorry for sharing my overloading.
[09:15] <r4y> and drum stuf
[09:15] <Jomik> lol
[09:15] <seidos> i found the drum stuff interesting
[09:15] <Jomik> O
[09:15] <Jomik> Is it possible to password protect folders/dirs?
[09:16] <MrChrisDruif> Badum, tsh
[09:16] <Geocosm> How'd you make those arrow things?
[09:16] <MrChrisDruif> seidos: Might be interesting, but offtopic I presume
[09:16] <Geocosm> >><<
[09:16] <Geocosm> >>>>>>
[09:16] <seidos>  MrChrisDruif 0
[09:17] <r4y> >> is not the same the ones he used were small, right?
[09:17] <Geocosm> Yeah I can't make them.
[09:17] <Jomik> you copy paste! :D
[09:17] <Geocosm> I don't want to copypasta every time I talk about terminal commands. :(
[09:17] <r4y> That's how I did.
[09:17] <duanedesign> r4y: have you been using CLI Companion at all?
[09:17] <MrChrisDruif> Geocosm: Use gucharmap I guess
[09:17] <Jomik> I think it's ALT + 0171 and ALT + 0178
[09:17] <Jomik> numbers on numpad
[09:17] <Geocosm> gucharmap you!
[09:18] <MrChrisDruif> ??
[09:18] <Jomik> yeah
[09:18] <r4y> Not yet, but it is great and I will be installing it on every install I make now
[09:18] <Geocosm> nothing is happening.
[09:18] <Jomik> Hold down ALT and press 0171 or 0187 on your numpad
[09:18] <duanedesign> ;3~
[09:18] <Jomik> Geocosm, do it in a notespad or something
[09:18] <geirha> Jomik: Maybe one of these answers will help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27770/is-there-a-tool-to-encrypt-a-file-or-directory
[09:19] <duanedesign> r4y: if you have any questions about it or features you would like to see let me know
[09:19] <geirha> In my keyboard layout I type Alt gr+Z and X to get «»
[09:20] <Geocosm> What's gr?
[09:20] <r4y> Yesterday I meant to say that the command I wanted to find for clearing out DNS was there which I pasted here
[09:20] <geirha> Alt Group, the Alt key on the right hand side
[09:20] <Jomik> the key "Alt Gr"
[09:21] <geirha> If you have a compose key you can type Compose < <
[09:21] <Jomik> looking geirha
[09:21] <r4y> I should checkout all the commands that are listed in CLI Companion sometime in Google.
[09:21] <Geocosm> I have a Razer Lycosa.
[09:22] <geirha> Another way to type « and »  is to use the unicode number (00ab and 00bb) e.g. ctrl+shift+u ab <space>
[09:22] <Geocosm> « ha!
[09:22] <MrChrisDruif> «» <= these Geocosm?
[09:23] <Geocosm> I'll never remember that. « »
[09:23] <Jomik> ab
[09:23] <Jomik> Huh what geirha? XD
[09:24] <Jomik> «
[09:24] <Jomik> OH
[09:24] <Jomik> XD
[09:24] <Jomik> Ty
[09:24] <MrChrisDruif> !flood | Jomik
[09:24] <ubot2> Jomik: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[09:24] <Geocosm> !fleed | MrChrisDruif
[09:24] <ubot2> Factoid 'fleed' not found
[09:24] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[09:25] <Geocosm> I"m not even drunk «
[09:25] <r4y> I wish I was
[09:25] <Jomik> !fly | MrChrisDruif
[09:25] <ubot2> Factoid 'fly' not found
[09:25] <Jomik> :(
[09:25] <MrChrisDruif> Geocosm: I tried to explain to Jomik that those multi-line things aren't always liked by everyone (including me)
[09:26] <r4y> multi-line?
[09:26] <Geocosm> I was trying to point out the irony.
[09:26] <Jomik> Geirha, that link you sent me - I can't find "encrypt" in the menu?
[09:27] <geirha> Jomik: when you right-click a file or folder?
[09:27] <Jomik> r4y, I think he means that I posted 6 lines in less than a minute, and that ticked him off.
[09:27] <geirha> Jomik: Could be it's disabled if you don't have any pgp-keys stored.
[09:27] <Jomik> Geirha, I don't see anything like that :/ I see Compress
[09:28] <Jomik> Might be? XD
[09:28] <seidos> i want more beans
[09:28] <r4y> Encrypting scares me, because of the possibility of losing data, but I guess anytime I use my hard drive I should be scaried then, but at least make a backup
[09:28] <geirha> Jomik: Try creating a dummy pgp-key in Password and encryption keys.
[09:28] <r4y> I have a backup of everything
[09:28] <r4y> I understand not having the space though
[09:30] <Jomik> geirha, it needs my full name and email adress? why ? O.o
[09:30] <MrChrisDruif> r4y: multi-line aka what Jomik did between 10:23:54 && 10:24:09 CET
[09:31] <geirha> Jomik: Just write in some random stuff, but don't upload it to a key server. It's just for testing for now.
[09:31] <Jomik> Yeah, because I tested the shortcut to writing the « which didn't show before I actually pressed enter. :o
[09:31] <Jomik> geirha, I don't have a key server? XD
[09:32] <geirha> Jomik: Keys like that are used by Ubuntu developers. They can use them to sign packages and stuff, so you know they made them and not some malicious third-party.
[09:32] <Jomik> geirha: Kay XD I made one now, but it didn't show up anywhere O.o
[09:33] <geirha> Jomik: «My personal keys»
[09:33] <Jomik> Oh, yeah, I didn't finish making it, the popup got minimized XD
[09:35] <geirha> Jomik: a PGP-key is a pair. You have a secret part and a public part. When you make a "proper" key, you generally want to give the public key to people you know. With your public key, they can encrypt stuff with it, and the only way to decrypt it, is with the corresponding secret key.
[09:35] <MrChrisDruif> r4y: You understand what I mean?
[09:36] <Jomik> gairha: But if I just want to encrypt / password protect a directory so that I can only access it with some password.?
[09:36] <Jomik> And (sorry MrChrisDruif) why the hell does it take so long to generate a key <.<
[09:36] <r4y> I need to read it over, I am talking to duandesign on a private chat about CLI Companion
[09:36] <r4y> sorry
[09:36] <geirha> Jomik: Then you encrypt it with your own public key, at which point you can decrypt it with your secret key.
[09:36] <r4y> I will come back and read everything you wrote though
[09:37] <geirha> And the secret key is password protected.
[09:37] <MrChrisDruif> Jomik: The swiftness is dependent on key size and processing power
[09:37] <Jomik> I used very short strings T_T And I think I get it  :P
[09:38] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, very short strings is a good definition of flooding :D
[09:38] <geirha> Jomik: Yeah, I only meant to create that key for testing. Once you do it for real, use a long password (or actually passphrase). Mine is like 50 characters long :)
[09:39] <Jomik> MrChrisDruif - I meant for my PGP key .......................... And geirha: Wtf, 50 characters? XD
[09:40] <MrChrisDruif> Jomik: I don't remember....sorry :) Been too long back that I did that
[09:40] <geirha> Jomik: I'd like to see someone crack that :)
[09:41] <Jomik> geirha: Why would anyone bother trying? XD How many chinese characters?
[09:42] <geirha> Jomik: It's just a phrase by some famous person, where I've replaced a few characters and words, so it's easy for me to remember it.
[09:43] <Jomik> Aaah, still way much O.o Do you have encrypted directories on your computer then?
[09:44] <geirha> Jomik: Nah. I don't have files I need to keep THAT secure.
[09:45] <Jomik> What do you use it for then? O.o
[09:46] <geirha> To send and receive sensitive stuff over email. Which is otherwise very insecure.
[09:46] <Jomik> ahh
[10:48] <r4y> I think I understand what you meant MrChrisDruif. You were saying to use pastebin instead of flooding I think
[10:53] <r4y> MrChrisDruif left already. O well.
[11:12] <r4y> Hello MrChrisDuif
[11:12] <r4y> Was I right about what you meant?
[11:14] <redbox> r4y: You're probably right.
[11:14] <r4y> Ha ha, OK
[11:15] <r4y> The problem was I was talking to duanedesign when they were talking so I couldn't keep up
[11:15] <r4y> The problem was I was talking to duanedesign when they were talking so I couldn't keep up
[11:16] <MrChrisDruif> r4y: ???
[11:16] <MrChrisDruif> Was offline a few minutes..
[11:16] <r4y> Hello
[11:17] <r4y> I double posted because redbox disconnected and reconnected
[11:43] <r4y> Sorry I realize what happened
[11:44] <r4y> I said:
[11:44] <r4y> I think I understand what you meant MrChrisDruif. You were saying to use pastebin instead of flooding I think
[11:44] <r4y> But you were gone
[11:44] <MrChrisDruif> No, I meant flood....pastebin is for multi-line error messages
[11:45] <r4y> That's what I just said
[11:45] <MrChrisDruif> Well...we've got !flood and !paste
[11:45] <r4y> Well, I must be misunderstanding you
[11:46] <r4y> I meant use pastebin for pasting info that would otherwise flood this place
[11:46] <r4y> Wait, what?
[11:46] <r4y> What's that?
[11:46] <MrChrisDruif> Flood is for when someone is just flooding, sending a lot of messages. Paste is for multi-line error things which also flood...
[11:46] <MrChrisDruif> !paste | r4y
[11:46] <ubot2> r4y: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[11:46] <MrChrisDruif> !flood | r4y
[11:47] <r4y> OK then
[11:47] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm....!flood got a bit of lag :P
[11:48] <r4y> I understood I think, I am somewhat of an asperger, but I have sort of grown out of it.
[11:49] <MrChrisDruif> Awesome :)
[11:49] <MrChrisDruif> r4y: Why don't you come to -team? It's our offtopic channel, this is our support channel (for problems)
[11:49] <r4y> I mean well, I and I know you mean well. It's all cool
[11:50] <MrChrisDruif> You and you? :P
[11:50] <r4y> OK, I was here for a problem I had and just staid because there weren't many people around. But I understand
[11:52] <r4y> ha ha, I just caught my typo
[11:52] <MrChrisDruif> It's always ok to lurk here to give assistance :)
[11:52] <r4y> I have a little up my sleeve, but you guys rock beyond my skills
[11:53] <r4y> for computer
[11:54] <MrChrisDruif> Who do you mean
[11:54] <MrChrisDruif> ?
[11:54] <r4y> you and other great computer geeks. I am a wanta be geek
[11:55] <MrChrisDruif> You can only help when you might know the answer, you might learn from teaching :)
[11:55] <MrChrisDruif> I almost always learn new things when I help others
[11:55] <r4y> I have. Someone usually comes along and know better answers
[11:57] <MrChrisDruif> You can learn from others as well :) What others might tell others you can learn from as well...
[11:57] <MrChrisDruif> And then you can tell it to someone else with the same problem :)
[11:57] <r4y> I learn so much everytime I come here and other place like here
[12:02] <MrChrisDruif> r4y: Might you be interested to have  single person to talk too, to answer your questions, to learn what you need to learn to become a member?
[12:02] <r4y> I am talking to someone now
[12:03] <MrChrisDruif> ;)
[12:03] <MrChrisDruif> Funny guy
[12:04] <r4y> I should have said 2 guys
[12:04] <r4y> And I don't mean that I am talking to myself
[12:07] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[12:08] <armagan> I have a problem at the likewise open , do you have that uses
[12:10] <r4y> Um, what?, Can you explain what you are trying to do?
[12:12] <MrChrisDruif> armagan: Redefine your question....we don't know what you mean :)
[12:13] <armagan> when I try joined the Active directory "Error: Lsass Error [code 0x00080047]5 (0x5) ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED - Access is denied"
[12:15] <r4y> Are you using Windows?
[12:16] <r4y> Are you having a dual boot problem or what?
[12:16] <MrChrisDruif> armagan: Are you trying to update?
[12:19] <armagan> no I m using Ubuntu
[12:20] <armagan> myproblem is likewise open app.
[12:21] <r4y> I've never heard of it sorry
[12:22] <bioterror> armagan, I assume you're doing it as a root?
[12:23] <bioterror> armagan, do you have priviledges to lift computer from workgroup to a domain?
[12:31] <r4y> Thank you guys for helping me.
[12:31] <r4y> I am going to go.
[14:58] <Jomik> Heya all. I just realized that my computer doesn't try to connect to a wireless connection automatically. How would I make it do that? XD
[14:59] <ddecator> are you using gnome?
[14:59] <Jomik> I believe so :D
[14:59] <Jomik> I'm not exactly sure what gnome is, but yeah, I'm using network-manager-gnome
[15:00] <ddecator> go up to the network applet in the top panel, right click and select "Edit Connections" (i think), find the connection you want, highlight it and click "Edit", then check the box that says to connect automatically
[15:00] <ddecator> gnome is what Ubuntu uses
[15:00] <ddecator> kde is Kubuntu, xfce is Xubuntu :)
[15:10] <Jomik> ddecator, ty, I just had to run for a bit XD I'm on Ubuntu, so yeah, gnome . I'll try to see if I can find it, I just couldn't find that before
[15:11] <Jomik> ddecator: It is enabled already, but when I came home today, it had lost connection and didn't try to connect even though it was present.
[15:13] <ddecator> could have been a one-time glitch
[15:23] <Jomik> Hopefully XD
[15:24] <Jomik> How did I check my ip again? iwconfig doesn't show it lol
[15:25] <bioterror> ifconfig
[15:25] <Jomik> rofl ty XD
[15:26] <bioterror> ipcconfig in windows and ifconfig on linux
[15:26] <Jomik> Yeah, what was iwconfig then? O.o
[15:27] <bioterror> for wlan
[15:27] <Jomik> ah
[15:27] <bioterror> you can adjust wlan networks and keys
[15:27] <Jomik> Ohh, yeah, I remember
[15:28] <Jomik> Okay, why can't my other computer see my linux one? Same network. I try to ping the IP and it says it's not available
[15:29] <bioterror> are you sure about network
[15:30] <Jomik> 100% sure we're on the same network.
[15:30] <Jomik> Both connected wirelessly
[15:30] <Jomik> and the computers are ~half a meter apart XD
[15:32] <bioterror> pastebin ip addresses
[15:33] <Jomik> k
[15:33] <bioterror> but im off
[15:33] <bioterror> train is almost at my home station
[15:33] <Jomik> http://pastebin.com/TDyE3vHH
[15:33] <Jomik> AWww
[15:33] <Jomik> XD
[15:34] <Jomik> Coming on soon again or?
[15:40] <Jomik> Can someone else help me? I can't ping my computer from my server (Both are on the same LAN) or the other way around. And I need to be able to connect 'em >.<
[16:01] <bioterror> Jomik, yes, they are on same network
[16:01] <bioterror> I believe you
[16:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> Bonjour s-fox =]
[16:02] <s-fox> Bonjour IAmNotThatGuy =)
[16:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> how are you s-fox ?
[16:03] <s-fox> To answer your question on facebook - stuck in UK at the minute for at least 20 more weeks
[16:03] <s-fox> I'm okay, how are you IAmNotThatGuy ?
[16:03] <bioterror> Jomik, IAmNotThatGuy will assist you. he's a certified cisco engineer! ;)
[16:03] <Jomik> Oooo, kewl XD
[16:03]  * IAmNotThatGuy blinks
[16:04] <bioterror> :D
[16:04] <Jomik> both the computers can ping 192.168.1.1 - gateway
[16:04] <Jomik> but they can't ping eachother
[16:04] <Jomik> they're on LAN
[16:04] <IAmNotThatGuy> s-fox, some busy schedules. office eats my time :]
[16:04] <Jomik> So I'm guessing my router might be blocking something ? O.o
[16:04] <IAmNotThatGuy> 7 AM to 8.30 PM
[16:05] <Jomik> IAmNotThatGuy: Ouch, that's a lot
[16:05] <IAmNotThatGuy> Jomik, its just for 4 weeks. so no worries :]
[16:06] <Jomik> "just" Lol! Could you spare like 2 minutes for a random dude from the net then? XD
[16:06] <johnny77> Jomik: this is a wild guess, but in windows I've had it where my antivirus wasn't set to "trust" the other computers on my network.
[16:06] <IAmNotThatGuy> just 2 minutes is enough for you? :P
[16:06] <IAmNotThatGuy> heya johnny77
[16:06] <johnny77> IAmNotThatGuy: hello.
[16:07] <Jomik> johnny77 I doubt that, cuz they were able to connect earlier when my server was connected to the net by cable.
[16:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> idk why [Drumm] heeps changing his nick :|
[16:08] <johnny77> Jomik: ok, just thought I'd throw that out there.
[16:08] <Jomik> IAmNotThatguy: I have no idea XD I'm pretty competent with computers, so should be able to understand most. But I still can't see why I can't ping my damned server. I'll be able to try to ping another computer in a few minutes when it frees up.
[16:08] <Jomik> johnny77, yeah. I thought of it too, I tried flushing the iptables on my ubuntu machine too. but didn't change anything
[16:09] <IAmNotThatGuy> Jomik, just from that particular client or from any client?
[16:10] <Jomik> I haven't been able to try from another client yet. I'll be able to in just a few secs, so guess we should wait for that XD
[16:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> Jomik, also beware of the smiley you use. coz it makes me confuse in guessing your state of mind
[16:12] <bioterror> Jomik, what's your router?
[16:12] <Jomik> Ah, don't pay attention to my smileys, it's a very bad habit I have. I'll try not to use them though.
[16:12] <Jomik> bioterror: It's a Tilgin - you want it more specific?
[16:14] <bioterror> Jomik, http://www.tilgin.com/Products/Ethernet-access/ something like that?
[16:14] <Jomik> Tilgin HG1311, looks like that, but has no antenna :D
[16:16] <bioterror> I think you have to surf the webinterface of your device and check if there's some settings that blocks ICMP packets from computer to another
[16:16] <bioterror> hi bodhi
[16:17] <Jomik> I can't remember the password ... I know it's the default ones .. lol
[16:18] <bioterror> haha
[16:18] <bioterror> reset it :D
[16:18] <Jomik> Nah, I can't reset it, my mom's bf took hours setting it up. And he wont let me though I'm better at it than him <.< But I know the password is the default
[16:19] <bioterror> 1234 :D
[16:21] <Jomik> okay, I can't ping anything from any clients.
[16:21] <bioterror> I can proof you that it's not linux fault
[16:22] <bioterror> your ubuntu works just fine :D
[16:22] <Jomik> Yea,h believe so :D
[16:22] <holstein> firewall?
[16:22] <holstein> on one of the machines?
[16:23] <Jomik> Nope, I tried on 2 windows machines
[16:23] <holstein> with the firewalls disabled?
[16:23] <Jomik> and I've been able to ping it from my windows one before, I was able to connect them even, through minecraft.
[16:23] <holstein> i remember doing that as a trouble-shooting step
[16:23] <Jomik> both of them was connected once, when my server was on cable.
[16:24] <Jomik> bioterror / IAmNotThatGuy what did you want me to look for in the router?
[16:24] <holstein> 11:16 <+bioterror> I think you have to surf the webinterface of your device and check if there's some settings that blocks  ICMP packets from computer to another
[16:24] <Jomik> Yeah, but more specific lol ICMP packets? :D
[16:26] <holstein> is this helpful?
[16:26] <holstein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping
[16:26] <Jomik> I mean, where would my router block an ICMP packet? :D
[16:27] <holstein> the interfaces are usually so differnt
[16:27] <holstein> interface and options
[16:27] <Jomik> Yeah
[16:28] <Jomik> Can't find anywhere that would block anything at all
[16:28] <Jomik> except no ports being forwarded ofcourse
[16:28] <Jomik> but that shouldn't affect LAN
[16:28] <holstein> shouldnt
[16:28] <holstein> you can ping the router from all of them?
[16:28] <Jomik> yup
[16:28] <holstein> and the windows boxes can ping each other?
[16:29] <Jomik> nope
[16:29] <holstein> well, it literally cant hurt anything
[16:29] <holstein> to disable the firewalls
[16:29] <holstein> for a mintue
[16:29] <holstein> minute*
[16:29] <Jomik> There is none XD
[16:29] <holstein> on the windows boxes
[16:29] <Jomik> O.o
[16:29] <Jomik> it popped on my comp again
[16:29] <Jomik> sec
[16:30] <Jomik> still can't ping
[16:30] <holstein> i would probably spend some time on why those windows machines cant ping each other
[16:30] <holstein> did you restart them?
[16:30] <holstein> windows seems to like that
[16:30] <holstein> "did you turn it off and back on again" ;)
[16:31] <Jomik> What would that do? :O I mean, they've been reset a bunch of times XD
[16:31] <Jomik> damned smileys again, sorry, pay no attention to those
[16:32] <holstein> i can only recall some windows trouble-shooting steps
[16:32] <holstein> from when i used to try to get lin and win talking
[16:33] <Jomik> what is PPP-pass through?
[16:33] <holstein> you shouldnt need anything like that
[16:33] <holstein> maybe http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk827/tk369/technologies_q_and_a_item09186a00800946ef.shtml
[16:33] <Jomik> Nah, just saw it XD
[16:34] <Jomik> Cisco, wut? XD
[16:34] <holstein> i think disabling the firewalls will make that kind of thing unecessary
[16:34] <Jomik> I already tried disabling the firewalls :)
[16:34] <holstein> tried?
[16:34] <Jomik> on my win and on my linux :D
[16:34] <holstein> or are they currently disabled?
[16:34] <Jomik> yeah, I disabled them, pinged, didn't work, enabled them
[16:34] <holstein> right
[16:35] <holstein> so, right now
[16:35] <holstein> they are enabled
[16:35] <holstein> if it were me
[16:35] <holstein> i would disable them
[16:35] <holstein> on the win boxes
[16:35] <holstein> reboot them
[16:35] <holstein> check the IPs
[16:35] <holstein> and try pinging
[16:35] <holstein> anyways, i gotta run... BBL
[16:35] <holstein> good luck :)
[16:35] <Jomik> Ty
[16:35] <Jomik> Thanks for your time :D
[16:36] <Jomik> I found
[16:36] <Jomik> user isolation!
[16:36] <Jomik> Bullshit
[16:36] <Jomik> go away XD
[16:36] <Jomik> not you udienz rofl :)
[16:39] <udienz> Jomik, what's up?
[16:44] <Jomik> I just wrote go away, as soon as you joined. lol
[16:50] <Jomik> Umm lol, my Ubuntu suddenly stopped reacting to anything - no terminal commands, etc.
[16:51] <AbhijiT> Jomik, can you go to tty? ctrl alt f1 etc?
[16:51] <Jomik> tried that too, no connections
[16:51] <Jomik> I mean, no response*
[16:51] <AbhijiT> so you cant type command anyhow?
[16:52] <Jomik> Nope O.o But I managed to restart it through gnome. O.o TeamViewer stopped working and all.
[16:52] <AbhijiT> ok
[16:53] <Jomik> just wanted to know if anyone else had experienced that
[18:01] <Jomik> anyone got experience with a mysql server here?
[18:36] <Jomik> anyone got experience with a mysql server here?
[18:36] <Jomik> anyone got experience with a mysql server here?
[18:37] <Jomik> sry, lagged so it got sent twice XD
[18:37] <bioterror> !ask | Jomik
[18:37] <ubot2> Jomik: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[18:39] <Jomik> Lol bioterror :D It's because I can't ask a question since I'm not sure what the problem is... But netstat -tap | grep mysql shows .... LISTEN 3647/mysqld    but in the config file I've said that it should connect on port 3306???
[18:40] <bioterror> sudo service mysqld restart
[18:42] <Jomik> unrecognized service
[18:42] <bioterror> really
[18:42] <Jomik> worked without the d
[18:42] <bioterror> :D
[18:42] <Jomik> sudo service mysql restart
[18:42] <Jomik> now it's on port 3928 ??
[18:42] <bioterror> :D
[18:43] <Jomik> That's weird, aint it? XD
[18:43] <bioterror> what if you: telnet localhost 3306
[18:44] <Jomik> I'll send you that in a pastebin, give me a sec
[18:45] <Jomik> http://pastebin.com/fWKG25Ds
[18:45] <Jomik> I have no idea what that means :)
[18:45] <bioterror> seems like something answered from the port 3306
[18:48] <Jomik> Oooh, so the mysql might be running?
[18:48] <Jomik> Or the port might be busy by something else?
[19:10] <Justice> anyone knows how to unlock gnome keyring at login when using slim and openbox ?
[19:11] <Jomik> slim and openbox? :o I know it unlocks itself when you log in at the login screen XD
[19:12] <Justice> well using slim and openbox it does not for me :/
[19:13] <Jomik> Dunno slim and openbox, sry :D I'm a noob at linux anyways... :(
[19:18] <aveilleux> Justice: I think the GNOME keyring is designed for GDM, so I'm not sure you can unlock the keyring automatically if you're using SLiM
[19:19] <Justice> aveilleux, I know but there must be a way to unlock after login..
[19:19] <aveilleux> Justice: It should ask you for your password the first time you need it
[19:20] <Justice> aveilleux, it does however typing it each time after login when connecting to wifi is a bit anoying
[19:23] <aveilleux> Justice: This could be your answer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2524785&postcount=68
[19:32] <Jomik> aveilleux: I remember you to be pretty clever :D Do you think you can help me out set up mysql-server properly? For some weird reason it doesn't listen on the server I specify in the my.cnf, but it listens on some random one. It changes on each startup >.<
[19:33] <iggy19> hey all - i did a dumb thing that I can't seem to fix :(
[19:34] <iggy19> messed up my system panel - missing a bunch of pretty key icons
[19:34] <iggy19> including the network manager and the one that lets me shutdown/logoff/etc
[19:34] <holstein> iggy19: gnome panel?
[19:34] <iggy19> uh, yes.  sorry.
[19:35] <holstein> just right click on it
[19:35] <holstein> go to 'add to panel'
[19:35] <aveilleux> iggy19: Right-click, add to panel, Indicator Applet Session
[19:35] <holstein> and you'll see them there
[19:35] <holstein> all the options :)
[19:35] <iggy19> I have my indicator applet, but not nm
[19:35] <holstein> its there :)
[19:35] <iggy19> nor the power button
[19:35] <aveilleux> iggy19: Indicator Applet Session is different from Indicator Applet
[19:35] <holstein> in the menu
[19:35] <aveilleux> iggy19: Also, try "notification area" as well
[19:36] <holstein> theres not that many options really
[19:36] <holstein> you can just add them all
[19:36] <holstein> and see what they do
[19:36] <iggy19> sorry... too many terms.  The "notification area" I definitely have
[19:36] <holstein> easy to get rid of them
[19:36] <holstein> as im sure you know
[19:37] <iggy19> when I right click on the panel I get a list of applets I can add.  You are right, there are not too many of them.  Network Manager does not seem to be one of them.
[19:37] <holstein> yeah
[19:37] <iggy19> BTW: thanks for help!
[19:37] <holstein> its not called that
[19:37] <iggy19> ah
[19:37] <holstein> there have been some changes in there
[19:37] <holstein> customizations
[19:38] <aveilleux> iggy19: network-manager is under either Indicator Applet or Notification Area
[19:38] <holstein> mostly handy improvements to functionality
[19:38] <iggy19> pretty stock install
[19:38] <holstein> when you get rid of the power button
[19:39] <iggy19> Ah!  Okay, added Notification Area and got the nm back.  THANKS.
[19:39] <holstein> shutdown *should* show up over under the 'system' menu
[19:39] <holstein> i kinda prefer that anyways
[19:40] <iggy19> shutdown is on the system menu.  Which is fine.  Actually I'm fine to shutdown with a shell command.  But I'd like to know how to fix what I broke.  Any idea how to get the power button icon back on the far right?
[19:40] <aveilleux> urk
[19:41] <holstein> not that button ;)
[19:46] <st33med> Don't touch the red button
[19:46] <iggy19> alright, *that* was weird.
[19:48] <iggy19> As I was here chatting, the system *rapidly* decided to shut itself down, and wanted to fsck everything upon being powered back on.
[19:48] <holstein> maybe you hit the power button?
[19:48] <holstein> by accident?
[19:48] <holstein> and it was the scheduled disk check ?
[19:48] <iggy19> I have an error, which may be telling, upon logging back in: "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet"
[19:48] <iggy19> is there a chance that is the missing power button applet?
[19:49] <iggy19> And no, no chance I hit the physical power button.
[19:50] <iggy19> I know this is the noob channel, and I'm here 'cuz I got a pretty noobie problem, but I'm actually pretty computer savvy
[19:51] <holstein> i didnt mean any disrespect i assure you
[19:51] <Justice> hah fixed it by removing the default keyring
[19:52] <iggy19> holstein: none taken; I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to chat with me.  Just sayin', I know where the power button is and how long you have to hold it to power cycle this machine.  ;-)
[19:53] <iggy19> plus, it didn't hard power off, it very rapidly went through a very short (incomplete?) shutdown sequence.
[19:54] <holstein> yeah
[19:54] <holstein> sounded like what has happened to me when i just hit the power button on a few laptops
[19:54] <holstein> by accident
[19:54] <holstein> not holding it down*
[19:54] <holstein> probably not the issue though
[19:55] <holstein> i just like to postulate scenarios where 'everthing is OK'
[19:55] <holstein> OR at least, keep one around until its ruled out
[19:58] <iggy19> yeah, gotta brainstorm if you're going to troubleshoot.
[19:58] <Jomik> Can I open IRC on ubuntu without having to isntall? XD
[19:58] <Jomik> nvm
[19:58] <iggy19> almost like it was trying to go into suspend due to low battery, and didn't make it all the way b/c the batt died.  Except that I'm plugged in and have a full battery.  Anywho, ignoring the unexpected shutdown for now.  Would like my power icon back.  And to know that the OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet is
[19:58] <iggy19> googling
[19:58] <holstein> Jomik: sure, assuming you have network access
[19:58] <holstein> iggy19: hey, i did have that once
[19:58] <holstein> with an HP mininote
[19:58] <holstein> the battery reported something when i would unplug it
[19:59] <holstein> no matter what the level
[19:59] <holstein> suspend
[19:59] <holstein> i did a gconf work-around i think
[20:00] <iggy19> Hmmm... going to assume it was a fluke unless it recurrs.  You could be right though.  I could have hit the power brick with my foot just enough to knock it loose for a second.
[20:01] <holstein> plausible
[20:01] <holstein> anyways
[20:01] <holstein> i have seen those errors
[20:01] <iggy19> fixed the other problem
[20:01] <holstein> with panel apples
[20:01] <holstein> hehe
[20:01] <holstein> applets*
[20:01] <iggy19> yup yup
[20:01] <holstein> fixed them different ways..
[20:01] <holstein> you got it sorted?
[20:02] <iggy19> so, I did an apt-get remove earlier today, that I think might have dumped more packages than I meant for it to.
[20:03] <iggy19> I just did apt-get install indicator-applet-session and then added that to my panel via right-click menu --> viola!
[20:03] <iggy19> power button is back
[20:04] <holstein> cool :)
[20:06] <iggy19> holstein: thank you so much for hanging out here and being helpful!
[20:06] <holstein> iggy19: anytime
[20:06] <holstein> lots of helpful folk here
[20:06] <holstein> helping each other
[20:07] <iggy19> Sometimes the hours of running down solutions on google gets really old.  Like, until I saw that error message (the reboot was really a blessing in disguise for that) I had no idea what that missing applet was even called, which makes it really hard to google for it.
[20:07] <holstein> realtime discussion even on IRC can help get the mind going in the right direction at least
[20:08] <iggy19> I'll do my part to lurk here some and try to repay the favor.  Plus, I'm sure to be stumped again soon.
[20:08] <iggy19> ;-)
[20:08] <holstein> hehe, thanks
[20:09] <iggy19> so, does apt-get sometimes expand terms it is passed without an explicit wildcard?
[20:09] <iggy19> that's something I've not encountered before.
[20:09] <holstein> like? apt-cache search chromium
[20:09] <holstein> returning a lot more that chromium?
[20:10] <iggy19> yeah
[20:10] <holstein> im not positive, but i know the search does
[20:10] <iggy19> like I think I did "apt-get remove indicator-applet" and it ended up removing my "indicator-applet-session" without me explicitly asking for it.
[20:11] <holstein> that seems plausible too
[20:11] <holstein> i read those carefully now
[20:11] <holstein> with the audio metapackages i run
[20:11] <iggy19> I would have expected that of "..remove indicator-applet*", but it seems poor form to assume I wanted the expression expanded without me stating it
[20:11] <holstein> sometimes trying to remove a plugin
[20:11] <holstein> will want to get rid of a bunch of stuff
[20:12] <holstein> iggy19: agreed
[20:12] <holstein> not sure how to address that though
[20:12] <aveilleux> iggy19: indicator-applet-session depends on indicator-applet.
[20:13] <aveilleux> iggy19: If you remove a dependency, then the broken package is removed as well.
[20:13] <iggy19> okay, since I got your ear, do you know why apt-get sometimes asks you to confirm the action before it executes it, and othertimes it just flies right into executing the command?
[20:13] <aveilleux> iggy19: Using the -y flag will fly right into the action
[20:13] <iggy19> ah, that explains it.  I removed a something that -session dpended on, so it pulled -session rather than leave it installed but broken
[20:14] <aveilleux> iggy19: Also, if you're only adding or removing a single package then it'll assume you want to continue (since there is nothing being installed/removed that you didn't explicitly say)
[20:14] <iggy19> then when I added back "indicator-applet" it didn't automagically give me back the -session, which seems, actually, like the proper behavior
[20:14] <aveilleux> iggy19: yup
[20:15] <iggy19> aveilleux: oh, you said that above (in fewer words) while I was typing and not reading.  lol.
[20:16] <iggy19> Okay all, thanks again.  I'm back to my cassoulet-making.
[20:21] <holstein> im about to try and make a custom iso
[20:22] <holstein> live disc
[20:22] <holstein> i need to have some wifi access saved on them
[20:22] <holstein> anyone dealt with that?
[20:22] <holstein> i was thinking remastersys would let me copy exactly the environment in everyway
[20:23] <holstein> im still not sure im comfortable doing a chroot
[20:46] <iggy19> is there a way to tell the idicator-applet and/or the notification area what icons to display?
[20:48] <iggy19> Like, I prefer the battery meter in "notifications", but I like the sound panel in "indicator" - contrawise, I don't use evolution, so, I'd really like that icon to go away...
[20:49] <holstein> i add gnome-volume-control-applet
[20:49] <holstein> to startup applications
[20:49] <holstein> in gnome
[20:49] <holstein> as a work around
[20:50] <holstein> the icon is old-school-ish
[20:51] <iggy19> holstein: I tried it earlier today and removed it.  Will give it another go and see if it grows on me.
[20:51] <iggy19> ah yes, no mute option on left-click; have to right click to mute.
[20:51] <holstein> iggy19: i dont do it on every machine
[20:52] <holstein> its the 'social from the start' initiative
[20:52] <iggy19> maybe I'll just skip the volume control.  I did get the OSD linked to my hardware volume buttons working.
[21:37] <ekoeko> im new to ubuntu and programming how do i locate a folder  im trying to find "~/.vim/ftplugin" i assume the ~ means home but i cant find that folder
[21:47] <aveilleux> ekoeko: directories with a period in front of them are hidden. In Nautilus (file browser), hit Ctrl+H to show them.
[21:50] <ekoeko> perfect thanks!