[01:50] RAOF: I am pretty sure you made it with gnome-do. [01:50] My guideline with FF is when the topic in -devel changes, and the devel-announce email goes out. [01:56] TheMuso: Mine, too. :) [01:58] another 16 hours until the freeze (18:00 UTC) [02:02] I thought it was at the start of Thursday. [02:05] TheMuso: yes, but skaet clarified it earlier in #ubuntu-devel [02:05] ah ok. [02:05] er, extended :) [02:15] ooh sweet, then I can get a wayland update in === asac_ is now known as asac [03:57] Yay, the window decorator for compiz is no longer accessible... Time to file a bug. [04:02] i'm thinking now is not a good time to get today's updates: an apt-get dist-upgrade says that "The following packages will be REMOVED: ubuntu-desktop" [04:06] bjf: Yeah language-selector is broken. [04:07] If you don't use it, its not too bad to remove it for now to get other updates you might want. [04:07] I just make sure to re-install ubuntu-desktop when I see a fixed version of the broken package get uploaded. [04:08] TheMuso, thanks [04:32] Youch, switching users from the session indicator punts you out of your own session. [04:35] Or more correctly, when you log out of the second user's session, you get logged out of your own. [07:24] Good morning [07:25] heya [07:26] pitti, my wayland source package got approved but I gather that the binary packages need separate approval? [07:26] pitti: Good morning! === Brumle__ is now known as Brumle [07:27] pitti, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland - amd64, armel, and i386 are built, is that enough or does ppc need to be built as well before archive admins can review? [07:27] bryce_: right [07:28] bryce_: we usually wait until all arches are built, but only ppc left should be fine === htorque_ is now known as htorque [07:53] good morning === Bertrand is now known as bl8 [07:58] Good Morning! [07:58] Good morning! [08:02] good morning Sweetshark [08:02] hey Sweetshark === Bertrand is now known as bl8 [08:23] Yay, managed to land a nice feature for Orca users that will be beneficial given the desktop environments we are shipping for natty. [08:24] And with that, I call it a day. [08:24] TheMuso: nice! what does it do? [08:24] TheMuso: oh, sleep well! [08:25] pitti: When Orca starts up, it tells the user what desktop environment they are in, i.e unity or classic GNOME. I've also implemented a keystroke to give the user the same information after the fact. [08:27] TheMuso: oh, nice! so that you can tell apart gnome/gnome no effects/unity? [08:27] do you read out the session .desktop description? [08:27] s/do you/does it/ [08:28] pitti: Here is the status of the LO build: I botched one build (3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu1) by generating the control file on maverick, resulting in missing deps on natty, which I only saw after the upload. Since ubuntu1 was already tagged, I made a ubuntu2 with the fix and the buildd finished in the ppa 4 hours ago. However there are binary packages missing: libreoffice-java-common for example. I have a local build and all the deps are there, [08:29] Any idea what could be happening there? [08:29] pitti: No, I am currently using the DESKTOP_SESSION env variable to get the gnome session name, and am informing the user based on that, so no processing of desktop files etc. [08:30] pitti: Long term, I want to push this upstream, and make sure all desktop environments where Orca can be used are available and reported to the user when they log into sed environment. [08:30] Sweetshark: you mean they weren't built in the i386 build? did they somehow got dropped from debian/control then? [08:30] Sweetshark: what's the URL of your PPA? [08:32] I am using am64 currently [08:32] pitti: here is the build log: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2282774 [08:32] Sweetshark: ah, perhaps the i386 build is a bit behind and didn't finish yet? arch:all packages are only built once, by the i386 builder [08:34] pitti: and its more so that the user knows that things work different in unity compared to classic GNOME, with panels, launching apps, etc. [08:34] Sweetshark: right, i386 is still building [08:34] Sweetshark: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2282775 [08:35] pitti: I am only considering amd64 (the VirtualBox I am using the ppa from is also amd64). Also, it does not even show up in the build log. [08:35] pitti: Aaahh, you mean *-java-common is arch-indep and thus only build on i386? [08:36] Sweetshark: right; "Architecture: all" packages are shared amongst all arches [08:36] Sweetshark: i. e. you must only build them once, otherwise you could end up with two different arch:all packages [08:36] AAhh ... [08:36] and then you'd need to pick one :) [08:36] * Sweetshark calmes down a bit. [08:36] so they are generally built by the i386 buildds, and in exchange for the additional load we usually have a few more i386 builders than amd64 [08:37] Sweetshark: FYI, that's the difference between dpkg-buildpackage -b and -B [08:37] i386 does -b, all others do -B [08:37] * pitti pats Sweetshark's shoulders, it's all good! [08:38] pitti: we had something like that in the Sun OpenOffice build. However, it never worked well: All the "common" stuff was in one folder shared over all platforms. And then you would build over NFS. [08:40] pitti, good morning, i saw you were working on the policykit-1 packaging, is it possible to sync the latest version 0.100-1 (debian exp)? [08:40] And if two builder on two OS came into a race condition on the shared dir you would get "interesting" results. [08:42] pitti: so, when 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2 finishes in the ppa and is looking good, we should upload it asap to main, right? BTW I accidently tried to do that yesterday but was denied .,.. [08:43] Sweetshark: I concur [08:44] ricotz: yes, mbiebl and I were talking about it yesterday; did you test it already? [08:44] if not, I can test it now and sync [08:44] ricotz: we probably also need the new polkit-gnome as well, and merge that [08:44] good morning [08:45] pitti, would be great if could test it [08:45] i will be needed for the gnome3 stack === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:48] ricotz: hm, I don't see it on http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/policykit-1.html [08:49] ricotz: ah, but it's in git [08:49] pitti, hmm, http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-utopia/policykit.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/experimental [08:49] pitti, yes [08:49] morning [08:51] rodrigo_: ah, it's in NEW [08:52] rodrigo_: so, will test/upload now [08:52] sorry, ricotz ^ [08:52] rodrigo_: good morning [08:53] pitti, great [08:55] hey rodrigo_ [08:58] ricotz: ah, I guess you mainly need the GIR [08:59] ricotz: I think gnome-shell has its own PK agent built in, so you probably won't need pk-gnome 0.100 as urgently? [09:01] ricotz: so, no ABI/API changes and works fine with pk-gnome 0.99; up'ing [09:03] bigon_, ping [09:03] pitti, thanks, yes only policykit-1 is needed [09:04] rodrigo_: hey [09:04] hi bigon_ [09:04] bigon_, I see you uploaded an updated g-keyring package to the ppa, but not to the bzr branch? [09:06] you want me to add the branch? I was not sure if I had to create a brand new branch or to use of clone the one of the official archive [09:07] there are branches for ~gnome3-team -> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team [09:07] we use those for the packages in the ppa [09:07] so please update those when you upload stuff [09:08] if there is no ~gnome3-team branch, just branch from the normal ~ubuntu-desktop and then push to a ~gnome3-team branch [09:09] if you don't update the ~gnome3-team branches, your changes will be discarded next time someone does an upload [09:09] ok I will do that [09:09] ok thanks [09:10] hey seb128 [09:10] hey rodrigo_ [09:11] bonjour seb128 [09:11] hey pitti [09:11] how are you? [09:11] I'm great, thanks! how about you? [09:12] I'm fine thanks [09:13] though a bit tired today, I didn't sleep very well, dunno why but I feel it [09:31] hmm, the libpeas package in ~ubuntu-desktop/libpeas/ubuntu links to gtk3, is that the package in natty? [09:31] rodrigo_, yes [09:31] rodrigo_, libpeas is not used in GNOME 2.32 [09:31] seb128, ah ok [09:31] I thought it was [09:32] libpeas-1.0-0 has no rdepends in natty [09:32] rodrigo_, btw any news about the nautilus crasher or the g-s-d race issue or the vino,avahi bug? [09:33] rodrigo_, those are assigned to you but seem to be mostly staled [09:33] yes, going slowly on those, as I need to finish some unity-a11y stuff for today [09:33] the vini avahi bug is assigned to avahi afair [09:34] once I finish the unity stuff I'm doing, I'll go back to all of them [09:34] right, still we should try to debug those if upstream is not responsive [09:34] that can wait after the freezes though [09:35] rodrigo_, ok thanks, I'm just checking they are still somewhat on your list, no hurry, those are to fix for beta which let some time [09:35] yeah, sorry, will get back to them asap [09:35] rodrigo_, the gdm guys bounced the g-s-d race back to g-s-d in case you didn't see [09:35] rodrigo_, no worry, thanks! [09:36] oh didn't see it [09:36] * rodrigo_ looks [09:36] rodrigo_: for pkg that where not in the repository before (like nautilus-sendto) should I create a new branch or clone an other one? [09:36] bigon_, we usually branch from the ~ubuntu-desktop branch, and then push to a new ~gnome3-team branch [09:37] seb128, ther gnome bug is still assigned to gdm [09:38] rodrigo_, ok, I've not tracked the bug but that was discussed on the gdm and g-c-c list [09:38] someone mailed those 2 lists recently about the same issue [09:38] alright [09:40] seb128, hmm, didn't see it then, when was that? [09:41] rodrigo_, thursday [09:41] hmm [09:41] rodrigo_, it's the most recent discussion on the list [09:41] the only one which happened recently ;-) [09:42] seb128, ok, I see it in the archives, I completely missed it :) [09:44] ricotz: binNEWed now, so it'll hit the archive in about 80 minutes [09:44] seb128, ok, will look at it after I submit this branch [09:48] pitti, thanks! [10:08] TheMuso, ping [10:14] pitti: Hi, seems like you cleaned up too much; not fair. ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/language-selector/misc/+merge/51096 [10:14] GunnarHj: what? where? how? [10:15] GunnarHj: the only thing I touched in l-s is to fix the broken renaming to -gnome (but that wasn't you) [10:16] pitti: No, but the stuff that Michael sponsored yesterday seems to have been reversed. [11:08] pitti: There is some confusion as regards l-s uploads, I think. My theory is that lp:language-selector and lp:ubuntu/language-selector were not in sync when you fixed the name change issue, so the reversal just happened silently. If you browse the diff from your latest change at lp:ubuntu/language-selector, you'll understand what I'm talking about. [11:08] pitti: I don't have web access to lp:language-selector right now (bug 719901), so I'm not quite sure... [11:08] Launchpad bug 719901 in launchpad "Cannot view branch with revisions fixing private bugs" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719901 [11:10] lp:ubuntu/language-selector shouldn't be pushed to [11:10] will look [11:10] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/language-selector/natty/revision/103 [11:11] oh, indeed [11:11] it seems that someone forgot to push to the official branch [11:11] sorry, I didn't notice that [11:11] pitti: No problem. :) [11:16] GunnarHj: uploaded [11:17] thanks [11:17] pitti: Ditto. :) [11:46] pitti: Sorry to be a pain, but now lp:language-selector is at v. 0.18, while lp:ubuntu/language-selector is at v. 0.17 (and the changes you just uploaded to lp:language-selector are not reflected in lp:ubuntu/language-selector). Is there possibly some kind of time lag, or is there a need for another step to make them become in sync? [11:47] GunnarHj: the latter shoudl be auto-imported from the distros; there is some lag, yes === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:52] why do I have a floppy0 entry in the unity launcher? i don't even have that [11:52] fta: do you have one in udisks --dump? [11:52] pitti: Ok, then I've something today too. :) Thanks! [11:53] pitti, nope [11:53] GunnarHj: I might eventually just drop lp:language-selector and use lp:ubuntu/language-selector only; less branches, less confusion [11:53] the former has all the real history, though [11:54] pitti: Ok. I know too little about it to have an opinion. [11:56] hi seb128 [11:56] do you know if bug 723839 happened before the recent update too? [11:56] Launchpad bug 723839 in libdbusmenu "valgrind: invalid read errors in widget_notify_cb()" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723839 [11:56] this one is a pain ;) [12:02] hello everyone! [12:02] arriva la manos! [12:02] hey nessita [12:03] hey pitti, how are you? [12:03] I'm great, thanks! [12:03] how about you? [12:03] pretty good! a bit sleepy still, but it'll get better [12:18] chrisccoulson_, hey how are you today? [12:18] chrisccoulson_, no but I can easily try [12:18] seb128 - tired ;) [12:18] hey nessita [12:18] how are you? [12:19] hey seb128! how is it going? [12:19] I'm fine thanks [12:19] I'm fine thanks [12:19] ups [12:19] chrisccoulson_, do you want me to try with the version before your fix? [12:20] seb128 - that's ok, i can try that here. i wasn't sure if you already knew [12:20] chrisccoulson_, no, I decided to update to trunk and do a round of valgrind to see if there was remaining issues [12:21] chrisccoulson_, have you seen bug #724202 [12:21] Launchpad bug 724202 in libdbusmenu "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in image_notify_cb()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724202 [12:22] i'm seeing all sorts of problems with the latest dbusmenu :/ [12:22] a lot of menus in firefox stopped working too [12:24] chrisccoulson_, it's bug #723873 [12:24] Launchpad bug 723873 in indicator-messages "indicator menu items missing since the recent natty update" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723873 [12:25] chrisccoulson_, revert r217 [12:25] seb128 - ah, ok. thanks [12:25] well I didn't reconnect yesterday evening [12:25] * Sweetshark just finished building 3.3.1-1ubuntu1 while the uploaded 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2 is still building in the ppa buildd. [12:25] seems ken updated the indicator, it still doesn't solve the original issue I reported though [12:26] meh, cant help but think about the old competition between villa riva and villa bacho ... [12:30] hehe [12:30] chrisccoulson_, let me know if reverting that commit fixes your issues [12:30] chrisccoulson_, need to catchup with kenvandine and ted about that one [12:30] seb128 - will do, thanks [12:31] chrisccoulson_, so bug #724202 [12:31] Launchpad bug 724202 in libdbusmenu "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in image_notify_cb()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724202 [12:31] chrisccoulson_, do you think it's the same issue that the one you were debugging yesterday? [12:31] or another one? [12:32] we should probably tackle one issue at the time [12:32] the parser seems quite buggy still thoguh [12:32] not mentioning the fresh issue with r217 [12:32] seb128 - it looks like a different issue, but i'm just wondering if it's related to my commit yesterday ;) [12:32] that touched the signal handler registration code [12:33] chrisccoulson_, I've not seen any of those before today [12:33] but we got 2 today [12:33] so I wouldn't be surprised if it was [12:33] ok, i still get the invalid read in widget_notify_cb with the old version [12:39] seb128: quick question: am I missing something in this bug report in order to get a new source sponsored? bug #723139 [12:39] Launchpad bug 723139 in ubuntuone-file-storage-api "Please upload new source package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723139 [12:40] nessita, yes, an ubuntu bug would be needed to have it showing on the ubuntu sponsoring [12:40] nessita, i.e "also affect distribution" [12:40] nessita, it's only on your upstream project right now, nothing we would notice from ubuntu [12:40] seb128: but I have no ubuntu distribution to link to [12:41] nessita, ? [12:41] nessita, click "also affect distribution" and then "continue" [12:41] nessita, that will add an "ubuntu" line in the bugs table [12:41] seb128: without a package name? crap, it was so simple [12:42] nessita, yes [12:42] I didn't realize the package name was optional :-D [12:42] ;-) [12:42] now it will show on the sponsoring queue [12:42] thanks! [12:43] you're welcome [12:43] nessita, I will try to review it later if nobody else did but I'm quite busy today [12:43] nessita, you can try pinging mdeslaur when he's online, he's patch pilot today [12:43] rodrigo_ is patch pilot as well but he has no upload rights so he can't sponsor it for you === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:43] pitti, should i file a bug about that floppy0? [12:44] seb128, I'm what? [12:44] seb128: perfect, I'll do that. Good luck with all you tasks! [12:44] rodrigo_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReview [12:44] fta: sorry, missed your "nope"; if it's not in udisks, and not in /etc/fstab, then it's a weird unity bug; please file it, I don't have it [12:44] rodrigo_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews [12:44] rodrigo_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews#Patch%20Pilots [12:45] rodrigo_, you should have received a gcalendar notice when dholbach set you up in the calendar [12:45] pitti, oh, it's in the fstab, not sure why, that box never had a floppy drive [12:45] rodrigo_, each canonical employee is supposed to do half a day a month of patches reviews and sponsoring [12:46] seb128, ah, ok [12:46] rodrigo_, today is your day it seems [12:46] nessita, thanks! [12:47] seb128, where is the list of people doing it? [12:48] rodrigo_, see 1.1.1.1. Schedule [12:48] rodrigo_, https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Berlin&gsessionid=OK [12:48] ok [12:50] ah, the 3.3.1~rc2-1ubuntu2 build just finished in the ppa! Anyone willing to sacrifice himself^W^W^W test this awesome new piece of software? [12:51] ah, oh, hang on [12:51] no, it not done yet. [12:52] * Sweetshark wonders if there is a way to make libreoffice buildds not end up on machines that take >12 hours on i386 to build it. [12:53] don't blame it on the buildds :p [12:54] seb128: who else? Libreoffice is a tightly packed, compact masterpiece of software engineering ;) [13:25] pitti, new dbus (http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2011-February/014122.html) might be nice to try to get in natty? [13:27] pitti, do you think you would have time to work on the update or would be interested by it? [13:36] guys on classic gnome I think there is an issues regards the system fan. unity desktop the fan kicks in from time to time, on classic it's on permanent and is throwing some heat out too [13:43] seb128 - oh, your widget_notify_cb memory error is happening because the menuitems parent gets destroyed before itself, so the pointer returned from "g_object_get_data (G_OBJECT (child), "dbusmenu-parent");" is invalid [13:43] not sure how that happens though :/ [13:44] * kenvandine waves, happy feature freeze day everyone [13:44] chrisccoulson_, I got the issue by closing the dialog before it was on screen if that makes any difference [13:44] hey kenvandine [13:44] kenvandine, how are you? [13:44] a little tired, but good [13:44] :) [13:44] chrisccoulson_, like valgrind is slow enough that I could use the menu again and pick "close" before it was done displaying it [13:47] seb128 - i can get the issue by closing the dialog, even after it's appeared [13:48] as long as i close it from the menu and not from the titlebar [13:48] ok [13:48] kenvandine, what is the deal with the libdbusmenu breakage [13:48] kenvandine, your indicator-messages update doesn't address the original issue I described [13:49] kenvandine, it's not the only indicator to be broken [13:49] seb128, ted thinks that was just a bug in indicator-messages [13:49] seb128, i couldn't find that breakage anywhere else [13:49] neither could ted [13:49] kenvandine, no, the bug I described is that gnome-bt appindicator lost half its items [13:49] yeah, i couldn't reproduce that [13:49] kenvandine, did any of you even read my bug report? [13:49] kenvandine, you turned bt off and on in the indicator? [13:49] i did... [13:50] weird [13:50] chrisccoulson_ also has issues with the update [13:50] kenvandine, do you have any device configured? [13:50] oh wait, now today after dist-upgrade and reboot i see it in gnome-bt! [13:50] damn! [13:50] yeah, gnome-bluetooth is pretty broken here [13:50] ted and i talked about it, neither of us saw that problem [13:50] and firefox is too [13:51] seb128, ok... so we need to jump on ted when he shows up :) [13:51] the sensitivity of a lot of menu items in firefox is not updating correctly now [13:51] kenvandine, did you restart indicator-applications-service yesterday? [13:51] i rebooted even [13:51] ok, weird then [13:51] (eg, highlight some text and open the edit menu, and the copy/cut items are not sensitive) [13:51] but i wasn't completely updated and all [13:51] it's broken in a consistent way here [13:51] but dbusmenu was breaking messaing menu for me [13:51] very odd [13:52] kenvandine, the box I use has not been updated this week [13:52] I just did pick the libdbusmenu upgrade yesterday [13:52] ted said the same thing... [13:52] so it's not due to another update [13:52] ok [13:52] I could also confirm the issue by tweaking ld_library_path and reverting or not r217 [13:52] that's how I tried the bug first and find the buggy revision [13:53] using gnome-bt [13:53] so you don't need a service restart, just the appindicator client [13:53] i have the revert of 217 prepared for upload [13:53] let's try to get the thing fixed rather [13:53] we need to move in the right direction ;-) [13:54] ted seemed to think the dbusmenu change uncovered a bug in the indicators [13:54] although he was confident it was only indicator-messages, but maybe it is others too [13:54] s/maybe// [13:54] :) [13:56] kenvandine, well gnome-bt is broken for sure, I didn't notice other issues [13:59] seb128: have a call now, but happy to look at new dbus afterwards [13:59] pitti, ok great, thanks [14:10] ok, i'm totally confused now [14:10] tedg, a DbusmenuMenuitem shouldn't normally out-live its parent should it? [14:10] tedg, !!! [14:10] tedg, hey ;-) [14:10] it's all tedg's fault! [14:10] :P [14:10] chrisccoulson_, Uhm, well, there's reasons it could... [14:11] chrisccoulson_, what menus are missing for firefox? [14:11] chrisccoulson_, Things like if it's in an idle callback or being used for something else. [14:11] chrisccoulson_, But, it should clean up relatively quickly after. [14:11] kenvandine, the sensitivity is messed up for most of the edit menu. also, the "restore previous session" menu entry is never sensitive now [14:12] tedg - that seems to be what is happening in bug 723839 [14:12] Launchpad bug 723839 in libdbusmenu "valgrind: invalid read errors in widget_notify_cb()" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723839 [14:12] ok, so for appmenu there seems to be sensitivity issues [14:12] that is a little different than bug 723873 [14:12] Launchpad bug 723873 in indicator-messages "indicator menu items missing since the recent natty update" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723873 [14:12] by the time widget_notify_cb is called, that particular menuitems parent has already gone [14:13] so, the "dbusmenu-parent" data is invalid [14:13] seb128, i just figured out why i couldn't find the problem in gnome-bt, at the time i tested... i had the reverted 217 dbusmenu installed for testing [14:13] chrisccoulson_, That seems like a case we should handle.... [14:13] kenvandine, lol [14:13] later when i patched indicator-messages i downgraded that to test it :) [14:14] tedg, it's still broken... [14:14] Is nautilus broken in Natty? [14:14] kenvandine, Hmm, it works for me... [14:14] in gnome-bt? [14:14] you see those device menus? [14:15] cdbs, no [14:15] tedg - yeah. i'm trying to work out why it's happened though :) [14:15] seb128: wierd: Nautilus doesn't open for me [14:15] i'm just sticking printf's everywhere atm ;) [14:15] tedg, try turning bt off and an, you should lack items and the menus should be empty for devices [14:15] though the desktop works well, until I open the file manager window [14:15] cdbs, what error? [14:16] chrisccoulson_, There are good reasons it'd happen. Like if it updated properties and that's still in the idle, the idle process will keep a reference. [14:16] seb128: simply no output [14:16] tedg - ah, ok. that does make sense [14:16] seb128: okay, I get this error (wait until I pastebin) [14:16] ok, i get it now :) [14:17] seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/571740/ [14:18] seb128: when I just type nautilus in terminal, no output comes, and desktop gets restored. I get those DBus errors when I run nautilus in another window i.e. try to open a window of it [14:18] tedg - should DbusmenuMenuitemPrivate have a parent member? (that could just be a weak pointer) [14:18] rather than doing the g_object_set_data stuff in the parser [14:18] cdbs, sorry I'm busy fixing unity breakage [14:18] seb128: and, those errors actually come in the terminal window where the nautilus instance was runnong [14:18] seb128: :o, sorry [14:19] could you please stop highlight me and just write on the channel? [14:19] thanks [14:20] chrisccoulson_, I've thought about it... I'm not sure. The original use as the thought that there could be more than one parent or some such, which seems silly today. So, I guess, in general, I'm not against it but it might be a pretty big change. [14:20] tedg - it's not possible for a widget to have more than one parent in GTK is it? [14:21] chrisccoulson_, Nope [14:26] tedg - i'll look at how much work it is to add a parent member to DbusmenuMenuitem. I think that would be the cleanest fix for that, even if it's more work [14:31] chrisccoulson_, Okay [14:37] tedg, so, did you try gnome-bt? [14:39] seb128, No, I haven't. Trying to catch up from the European morning still :) [14:39] k === joaopinto_ is now known as joaopinto [14:47] didrocks, do peeps know about the accessibility crash in unity? [14:48] I can't start unity anymore after updating the gnome desktop schemas today [14:48] mterry: yeah, revert to previous gsettings-* [14:48] one sec, looking for the package name [14:48] didrocks, sure, just making sure someone was on it :) [14:48] packaging should have a breaks: unity or something [14:48] gsettings-desktop-schemas [14:49] seb128 is supposed to upload with the Breaks: now :) [14:49] didrocks, it has been uploaded already [14:49] ok, nice! [14:50] didrocks, but there's a new unity coming today too that'd fix it for realz, and have shiny new features right? [14:50] mterry: right [14:50] hey mterry [14:50] new compiz [14:50] new bunch of packages [14:50] :) [14:50] * mterry likes shiny things [14:50] seb128, hi :) [14:51] seb128, btw, I filed the datetime preferences merge yesterday. hopefully it will be merged today, as tedg knows about it. A little rough around the edges, but the UI is there and works [14:51] mterry, great [14:51] mterry, not sure if tedg running out just after you said that is a sign though... [14:52] :) [14:53] mterry, you can consider yourself luck, the datetime work means you are avoiding getting the recent libdbusmenu crashers assigned to you ;-) [14:53] mdeslaur, hey, did you see nessita's sponsoring request? [14:54] hi mdeslaur! [14:54] mdeslaur: request is bug #723139 [14:54] Launchpad bug 723139 in ubuntu "Please upload new source package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723139 [14:54]