[00:00] On a clean (ve) at Media Temple: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && reboot" applies 57 patches, but server never returns. [00:02] likewise-open question... [00:02] the documentation here says use /etc/init.d/likewise-open restart to restart the daemons... https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/likewise-open.html [00:02] Sorry, first time in IRC in about a decade here. I probably didn't phrase my question in the form o fone. [00:02] but on my system that file does not exist. [00:02] sstanfie: Media Temple is a provider of VPS systems? [00:02] is there another all-encompasing-services restart method? [00:03] JanC: Yes, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Media Temple on a (ve) server. But failing up update/upgrade. Server won't come back after sudo reboot. [00:03] lullabud: do you use 10.04 and do you have likewise-open installed? [00:03] JanC: yup, fresh 10.04 server test environment with likewise-open and samba installed. [00:05] 'grep -ri likewise-open /etc/init.d/*' returns 7 scripts, not sure if i need to restart all of them, and if so if they need to be in a certain order. [00:07] at any rate, it looks like the documentation is incorrect. [00:07] lullabud: yes, based on http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/likewise-open/filelist I'd say there are multiple services that make up likewise-open now, while in the past there was only one, e.g. in hardy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/likewise-open/filelist [00:08] so please report a documentation bug... [00:08] JanC: that's odd, this is specifically the 10.04 documentation. maybe it got neglected because they're moving to samba in 10.10 ? [00:09] well, maybe somebody forgot to check it still applies... [00:09] oh, no, that's not true... they have likewise documentation in 10.10 too... eh, whatever. [00:09] does ubotu have a quick link to bug submissions? [00:10] !bugs [00:10] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [00:11] !documentation [00:11] documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com [00:12] ugh, reporting a bug looks like a real pita. [00:13] sstanfie: what technology does Media Temple use for virtual servers? [00:13] JanC: Looks like Parallels [00:13] Pretty happy with (mt) so far, but I'm stuck on a fairly beginner problem. [00:14] On a clean build of 10.04, running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ... it works, but then "reboot" starts and server never returns. [00:14] It applies 57 updates. Kinda out of my league on debugging that. [00:14] $30 / month for the basic VPS on a (ve) server. [00:16] sstanfie: can you "reboot" the system from outside the VM (e.g. a web interface)? (just in case this is a bug in the reboot code for the Parallels virtualised machine) [00:17] JanC: Yes, I've rebooted from their web console. Same effect. Right now, I'm in "aptitude" trying to put a hold on mountall. [00:17] * JanC pays 15 € / month for a non-basic VM, but that's on a friend's machine... ;) [00:17] JanC: nice price. [00:17] At least I'm not loosing any data on this guy. Just bugging me that I can't update/upgrade a clean box. [00:18] sstanfie: if you reboot from the "web console", are upgrades applied? [00:19] JanC: Hmm, I haven't tried that yet. I can see that a few processes are running (nothing appears hung), but ssh and ping don't reach it. [00:19] JanC: My workaround is just to skip upgrades at this point and carry on. I have a ticket opened with Media Temple. [00:19] so you need to re-install every time? [00:20] No. This is literally a clean machine. These are the first two commands I've run on it. [00:20] Here is MT's step-by-step install instructions: http://wiki.mediatemple.net/w/(ve):Get_started_with_Ubuntu [00:20] The first thing they have you do is apt-get update and upgrade. Then box doesn't restart on the subsequent reboot. [00:21] seems like they use a custom Ubuntu image? [00:21] It might be. I'm thinking that's where the conflict is. [00:21] I'm running upgrade again, but I put a "hold" on mountall. Will report back. [00:21] The fastest answer will be if you call them and say "WTF?" [00:21] there is no way to log in as root on a normall ubuntu install ;) [00:21] Indeed. Fixing to do just that. [00:22] JanC: technically, there is. It's just that you aren't offered that choice at priority=normal during installation [00:22] I can get on as root right *after* I choose Ubuntu 10.04. They lay down the image. [00:22] JanC: with priority=low (i.e. "expert mode"), you're offered to set one. [00:22] sstanfie: did you try reboot --verbose ? [00:22] twb: s/normal/default/ ;) [00:22] Whatever [00:22] lullabud: will try that right now [00:22] I only ever use low and critical [00:23] lullabud: of course, I'm probably several time zones away from this VPC, so I can't see the console. [00:23] twb: does that also allow login as root on ssh with a default password? ;) [00:24] JanC: not sure about ssh [00:24] Last time I looked ubuntu didn't default to without-password. [00:25] IMO companies like Media Temple should configure VMs with root login over SSH disabled by default [00:26] root login *is* enabled by default, but you have to set the password on their web form first. [00:26] I disagree. I prefer without-password; having to bounce through sudo makes it harder to set up cpio or tar streams. [00:26] Then I go in and disable root access and change SSH port, etc. [00:26] Sigh. Ok, I'm calling MT. I can't apply updates and have it reboot at all. talk to you all later. thanks for the help! [00:26] twb: if I really need that, I use 'sudo -i' [00:27] JanC: uh... [00:27] ssh root@foo tar -c / | ssh root@bar tar -x [00:27] ah, in that case [00:27] ...that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Unless sudo is passwordless, that won't work [00:27] but even then you don't want password logins ;) [00:28] Oh, I totally agree on that score [00:28] I'm trying to disable them for *all* users at $office, and convince workers to carry around a keypair on a USB stick [00:29] heh, I have to do that [00:30] that is how I care around my harddrive decrypt key [00:32] sstanfie: when you say "Parallels", what product do you mean? I think there are 2 completely different virtual server technologies possible under that brand? [00:32] JanC: I will check. [00:32] I think one of the Parallels technologies in based on linux vserver ? [00:32] in which case there might be issues with upstart... [00:33] I'm running the Parallels Power Panel to manage a "container" which hosts my Ubuntu... [00:33] Oops, Media Temple tech support now on the call. [00:33] right, this is not a real virtual machine, but linux vserver IMO [00:33] Um. Yes. === Kiall|AFK is now known as Kiall [00:34] what was known as Virtuozzo in the past [00:34] Yes, that's it! [00:35] openvz is parallels, too [00:35] I know upstart has issues on such setups sometimes... [00:35] or is it based on openvz, whatever ;) [00:35] openvz *hates* upstart [00:36] And vice-versa [00:36] You need to jump through a big bag of hoops to get it working. Same as LXC. [00:36] And it [00:36] And it's much worse in lucid because upstart handles more of the system than hardy [00:37] Yeah, support guy just verified it's "openvz" [00:37] sstanfie: I think you should probably cry into your beard [00:37] twb: LOL [00:37] For lucid on lxc, these are the upstart jobs I have to disable: http://paste.debian.net/108677/ [00:38] Replacing them with http://paste.debian.net/108678/ [00:38] Oh, don't forget that openvz can't actually restart its containers -- it just has a cron job that runs every five minutes that looks for containers that should be running, and starts them. [00:38] So if you're waiting less than five minutes after a restart, it'll look like the container didn't reboot [00:38] lol [00:39] Ah...the guy has a backdoor and he said the networking is shot on my VM. [00:39] sstanfie: oh, THAT bug [00:39] * JanC is happy he has a Xen-based VM ;) [00:39] # This one is needed for broken ifupdown NMU 0.6.8ubuntu29.1 [00:39] initctl emit -n net-device-up IFACE=lo LOGICAL=lo ADDRFAM=inet METHOD=loopback [00:39] If you're doing a security upgrade of lucid, it'll hang the entire boot process because of that stupid "fix" [00:40] twb: that initctl thing is for me? [00:40] sstanfie: try upgrading, but not upgrading the ifupdown package [00:40] twb: will do [00:40] Tech guy: "Sounds like one of the network package upgrades are killing it" [00:40] sstanfie: if that works, then you need to tell upstart that the lo device is already up at boot, otherwise it'll hang forever waiting for the kernel to say "hey, lo is up" or so [00:41] twb: Both me and the tech guy are clueless on that one, but it's a good lead. [00:42] sstanfie: I'm using LXC with lucid dom0 and domU, and LXC is basically a cleaned-up OpenVZ [00:42] sstanfie: took me AGES to find that bug :-/ [00:42] Yeah, I bet. I will look into it! [00:42] sstanfie: ask the tech guy if his customers run lucid much [00:43] sstanfie: if they mostly serve hardy and c5, say, then he won't have run into this before [00:43] sstanfie: to be honest, I'd just move on to a real VM-based VPS instead of a container-based VPS ;) [00:43] although that seems to be rather expensive at MT [00:43] well, expensive depending on what service level you need of course [00:43] containers are much lower overhead [00:43] true true [00:43] But if you're just a customer, you don't care about that [00:45] I know VM hosting starting at < 8 € / month that probably gets you at least as much performance as that MT container... [00:45] (if you don't need an SLA etc.) [00:46] So I'm hearing the problem might be with a VPS running in a container. [00:46] sstanfie: in case of Ubuntu, yes [00:46] it has to do with teh way upstart works [00:46] does anybody know if there is a VNC server that allows for a NAT 2 NAT service for Ubuntu? [00:47] caseinpoint: empathy + vino (built into GNOME) ? [00:47] More specifically: upstart is more picky than sysvinit about receiving events from the kernel, and container-based virtualization is relatively poor about faking these events. [00:48] JanC: thanks, but I don't use a gui. I'd like to have a user at home be able to connect to my server and then I connect to my server so that I may see his desktop [00:48] caseinpoint: http://blog.desmottes.be/post/2009/09/22/Empathy-228%3A-Easy-Desktop-Sharing [00:48] I'd like to be able to use it when I wasn't at my home (where my ubuntu server is located) [00:48] twb: is there a bug for that ifupdown issue? [00:49] caseinpoint: it can use every XMPP (jabber) server ;) [00:49] kees: well, I didn't file one. [00:49] kees: ifupdown is actually doing the right thing [00:49] kees: problem is in openvz/lxc [00:49] (I'm skipping the ifupdown upgrade) [00:50] JanC: awesome... i haven't attempted to install or use a jabber server in over 6 years... [00:50] twb: ah! okay, I didn't read all the context. I just know I touched-by-proxy the ifupdown package last in lucid. :) [00:50] caseinpoint: maybe you'll need some way to disable confirmation to see the other person's desktop though, don't know... [00:50] caseinpoint: you should be able to use every jabber server ;) [00:51] kees: * debian/ifupdown.upstart.if-up: Don't emit a duplicate net-device-up event for lo here, as network-interface.conf will have taken care of it. [00:51] kees: that was the change that triggers the problem, but AIUI the real issue is that LXC/OpenVZ don't send the appropriate events for upstart to respond to. [00:53] Success! [00:53] caseinpoint: both sides need a telepathy-based client though [00:53] I skipped ifupdown, mount and mountall. So one of this is causing this thing to fail big time. [00:54] sstanfie: mount should be fine [00:54] twb: yeah, tech guy is saying the same. [00:54] sstanfie: mountall is a dirty hack that's really part of upstart, so don't trust it [00:55] Now installing mount and mountall, and rebooting. Guessing it will work. So culpritis ifupdown, which matches what you guys thought. [00:55] sstanfie: try http://paste.debian.net/108679/ [00:56] twb: I will try that. [00:56] Good man [00:56] Then you can blog about it or whatever [00:56] twb: I will. [00:57] I'm giving the tech guy the paste.debian snippet for their log. [00:59] Good man [00:59] Assuming it works, o'course :-) [00:59] twb: I have the openvz.conf file setup. Do I simply reboot with it there? [00:59] Sure [00:59] trying it now [01:00] At least the tech guy is hanging w/me on the call. He's curious too. [01:01] Yeah, sounds like you lucked out and found a company where the people have a clue [01:02] At least he's not rushing me off the call...btw, applying your openvz.conf. stand by. [01:05] twb: your suggested patch did not work, but I will try one more time. I may have typed something in wrong. [01:05] Goddamn [01:05] I didn't put in the last line, the EOF. Necessary? [01:05] Then plan B is just to pin ifupdown so it never updates [01:05] sstanfie: yes, the EOF is necessary [01:05] doh! Trying it now. [01:06] Er, yo urealize that paste is stuff you type into a shell? [01:06] twb: I do :) [01:06] OK [01:06] I just didn't highlight the last line, for some reason [01:06] I am trying again. Will report back in 2 min. [01:10] twb: few more min. [01:13] sstanfie: dude, I'm not sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for you [01:13] twb: hehe [01:20] twb: after two attemps, the openvz.conf did not have any affect. Patching ifupdown still borks the machine. Workaround for now: skip update on that package. [01:20] Thanks for your help though. It really pinpointed the problem. [01:20] sstanfie: OK, sorry I couldn't fix it [01:20] I have a working box. I'm happy enough! [01:20] Nod [01:21] [01:21] hggdh, did you hang ec2-50-17-76-113.compute-1.amazonaws.com ? [01:24] smoser: it vanished suddenly [01:26] hggdh, do you want me to reboot it? [01:27] somer: no, not right now -- not tonight [01:28] hggdh, so are you done with it then? i'll kill it [01:28] smoser: please go ahead [01:29] If a filesystem is mounted noexec,nodev,nosuid -- can I still *create* executables, device and set-uid files, and they simply aren't honoured? [01:29] all of them ? just that one [01:34] smoser: just the two from hardy 2009 [01:35] smoser: I will have to figure a way for surviving a suddenly-gone system without losing the test results [01:35] well, the reboot brought it back [01:35] you still want me to terminate them, hggdh [01:35] ? [01:37] smoser: no leave it, let me have a look [01:39] smoser: I am re-running the tests, I want to know if we lose the system at the same point in time [01:49] hallyn: hey. so I just finished reviewing/testing your libvirt merge [01:49] smoser: I think ec2-50-16-176-170.compute-1.amazonaws.com also died [01:49] hallyn: seems solid :) [01:49] it seems it may have, yes [01:49] hggdh, the "good news" is that the stable hardy kernel did [01:50] so its not regression [01:50] smoser: yes. Both died while running kernel-security.py [01:50] and reproducibly [01:50] so that sgood [01:50] hallyn: I have made some light changes to the changelog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/571460/ [01:51] so I think the std hardy is not a kosher food for -security [01:51] hallyn: I (of course) left your name in the changelog, but want your ack if you are around before uploading [01:52] hallyn: I made quite a few changes to qrt, and testing looks good [01:52] hallyn: I had to disable the save/restore tests cause they were failing. that needs investigation [01:53] hallyn: there is also another test failing that I think is a perms issue [01:53] hallyn: both failed in current natty, so I am not worried. I will look at those test cases tomorrow or so [01:55] jdstrand: thanks. changelog changes look good. I guess I'd thought you did nt want the 0.8.3-1ubuntu{2..14} entries [01:55] hallyn: it was a weird thing to describe [01:55] hallyn: so no worries :) [01:55] the other test failing, you mean in qa tests? [01:55] yeah, qrt [01:56] ok [01:56] qrt was not happy with natty's libvirt :) [01:56] I've fixed almost all of it, except save/restore and the other thing [01:56] hallyn: thanks so much for your hard work! I know it was a pain [01:56] smoser: ec2-50-16-176-170.compute-1.amazonaws.com should not have died, though [01:58] you wnat me to bounce it? [01:58] hallyn: fyi, in the past the merges typically took me a day or two to get perfect for upload [02:00] jdstrand: but a week might be stretching it a bit? :) [02:00] jdstrand: thanks, i'll say i'm glad to be through :) [02:00] hallyn: well, this was more than a merge. it was a resync [02:00] hallyn: yes, it is always a great relief :) [02:00] hallyn: uploading now! [02:01] smoser: yes, please bounce it [02:02] hallyn: I don't know. now that you did it, you may want to consider how to make it easier going forward. whether that is pushing as much as can be to Debian, or permanently forking and cherrypicking changes from them [02:02] hallyn: the merge route is attractive cause you get bug fixes from them, as well as new upstrema versions, but it is a real pita [02:02] hggdh, bounced [02:06] hallyn: upload \o/ [02:07] and with that, I'm outta here [02:14] smoser: thanks. It seems -security cannot be run on the std kernel [02:22] hallyn: wow, that libvirt merge was humungous! [02:23] s/humungous/humongous/ [02:29] yeah, i was just about to congrats him. Rather him than me :) [02:37] smoser: ec2-75-101-184-41.compute-1.amazonaws.com can be terminated [02:47] smoser: ec2-50-17-76-113.compute-1.amazonaws.com also can be terminated [02:49] smoser: and ec2-174-129-132-135.compute-1.amazonaws.com [03:21] hggdh, ok. so you've still got ec2-50-16-176-170.compute-1.amazonaws.com === Kiall is now known as Kiall|AFK [03:38] smoser: yes, which just went down :-( [03:38] hm... [03:39] well, we're learning some things [03:39] :) [03:39] let's bring it back tomorrow morning [03:39] we certainly are! [03:39] I am now half-fried, half-baked [03:52] what do people use to monitor multiple servers and push updates? [03:54] goddard, landscape is a product from Canonical that can do that. [03:54] i probably sound like i'm just touting "CANONICAL", but i honestly don't know of other products. i'm sure there are. [03:54] ie, puppet does some of those sorts of things, and is very popular here. [03:56] I don't mind paid solutions as long as they do a better job then the free versions [04:05] goddard, i believe you can get a free trial of landscape [04:06] any idea how much it is/ [04:08] about 500 for a year [04:08] thats exspensive [04:47] having an issue with an ec2 instance. on boot I get this plymouth issue: http://pastebin.com/QDLS5nER [04:48] found a couple bugs that are "fixed" but i'm wondering how to get this one working for now. bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/571707 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/682831 [04:48] Launchpad bug 571707 in linuxmint "fsck progress stalls at boot, plymouthd/mountall eats CPU" [High,Confirmed] === jmarsden_ is now known as jmarsden === adamruffolo is now known as ruffdog === ruffdog is now known as heron_Marked === heron_Marked is now known as ruffdog === Kiall|AFK is now known as Kiall === Kiall is now known as Kiall|AFK === Kiall|AFK is now known as Kiall === Kiall is now known as Kiall|AFK [06:09] Okay, so I'm stumped. I've got a server with a 32 GiB hard drive, df reports 100% use with 140 MiB available space. 'du -h --max-dept=1 /' reports 19 GiB used. I've cleaned the apt cache and the recycle bin. Any thoughts on where the missing space went? [06:16] shoot, I bet I've got a lot of tiny files, so used space is low, but free blocks are low too === andol_ is now known as andol [06:17] different file system [06:17] bah [06:17] what I mean is [06:17] say you have /foo [06:17] with 20GB of data in it [06:17] and you have sdb1 mounted at /foo [06:17] the du / will not report on the space used by foo on the root filesystem [06:24] /dev/sda1 on / and the stuff on /dev/ and /var/run /var/sys /proc and /sys and that's it for mount. [06:24] none of those have much stuff in them either. [06:26] I wonder if it is something to do with the postgres server. [06:26] can i setup apt-get to automatically install recommended packages [06:27] You mean recommended updates? [06:30] i dont think so, i think i mean recommended packages [06:30] (i think those are different?) [06:30] if you do an aptitude install, it will say "not installing recommended packages" and list them [06:31] this flag: -r, --with-recommends [06:31] for aptitude [06:31] Ah, yes, and you want the same for apt-get [06:32] apt-get --install-recommends [06:32] it's in the man page :-P [06:33] well, I was under the impression you could make this the default behavior [06:33] so you dont have to provide the flag [06:34] and I was wondering how you do that [06:34] lifeless: man du and look at the -x option for how to let du only show one filesystem [06:34] jmarsden: you're missing the fault ;) [06:37] Reccommends is opt-out in all recent releases [06:38] Alestan: du -mx / | sort -nr | head -$((LINES-1)) [06:38] Alestan: du -hx / | sort -hr | head -$((LINES-1)) # if you have a recent system [06:38] Alestan: du -mx / | xdu # if you have X [06:39] twb: is there a way to change this behavior? [06:39] recommends aren't getting installed when i install packages [06:39] boxybrown: yes, see apt-config(1) [06:40] boxybrown: are you using apt-get, or what? [06:40] twb: okay, thank you [06:40] twb: apt-get and aptitude [06:40] depending on which tutorial im following... [06:40] or what tool I need (aptitude why, apt-cache search) === deegee_1 is now known as deegee_ [06:49] sooooo, this isn't mentioned in the apt-config(1) or apt.conf(5) docs at all [06:49] but I found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-configure-apt-get-to-install-suggested-packages-169746/ [06:50] and it seems that there is a package specifically for this (wajig) [06:50] pretty messed [06:53] hm 18953 on / [06:54] (I do have x but don't have xdu and have too little space to install it) [06:58] so du -mx / | sort -nr | head -$((LINES-1)) agrees with the simple du /, but not with df === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [07:10] boxybrown: what release? Lucid? [07:10] boxybrown: note that "Suggests" is not the same as "Recommends" === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [07:21] New bug: #724155 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: podproces instalovaný post-installation skript vrátil chybový status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724155 === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === Brumle__ is now known as Brumle === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [09:39] hallyn: I see the libvirt update I got this morning allows qxl devices and starts kvm with -vga qxl. seems you already pushed the new bits out ? [09:41] hallyn: not sure however where the spice client is. Please ping me once you're around, thnx [09:50] i want to duplicate my server logs to another server and keep them synced. experiences? [09:52] i have installed ubuntu server on machine.. i have also installed gnome-core and others.. and wish to log in and have access to a desktop [09:52] how can I do that? [09:52] installed vino but not sure how to use it [09:53] SpamapS: is lucandra packaged? [10:03] xampart: rsyslog has remote sending capabilities (might wanna look at rsyslog-ng too) [10:40] Hello all! [10:40] Is there any known bugs on today's dailies about network not working? [10:45] kim0: ok....i'll look into that [10:46] ara, during install or after install? [10:47] Daviey, during the installation [10:47] (when trying to set up the network with DHCP) [10:48] ara, we've been in a bad way most of the week due to d-i failing to find the kernel modules.. I would be suprised if anyone else has manually tried the daily from today... Other than the husdon tests [10:49] which AIUI don't rely on networking :/ [10:49] Daviey, I will try the daily in a vm [10:50] ara, certianly *looks* like a dhcp request was successful - http://hudson.qa.ubuntu-uk.org/job/natty-server-i386_akt-tbench/10/console [10:52] ara, My hunch is a request being successfully made, but not acted on... seems the husdon tests are all failing [10:52] jamespage, ^^ [10:52] Daviey: looking now [10:54] jamespage, Daviey: thanks, if you find the root cause and file a bug, please, let me know [10:54] ara, wilco === Kiall|AFK is now known as Kiall [10:55] looks definately broken: http://hudson.qa.ubuntu-uk.org/job/natty-server-amd64_lamp/88/console [10:55] jamespage, are you seeing just a timeout and no data? [10:56] hudson timeout [10:56] Some sort of DHCP request is happening; however the test case it not contactable once its started - so no useful diagnostic from the automated test cases - tests just timeout after 80 mins [10:56] jamespage, I am trying in a VM, to see if I can get some useful logs [10:57] guys, jibel filed bug 724242 this morning [10:57] Launchpad bug 724242 in debian-installer "alternate and server images fail to install: d-i stops with "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724242 [11:00] ara: let me just grab an ISO and I will try to confirm as well [11:00] jamespage, the cdrom is detected but can't be mounted for some reason [11:04] jibel: so I think a d-i change went in yesterday as all installs where failing with a 'unable to find kernel modules' error message. [11:08] i thought the build from today was supposed to resolve that [11:09] Daviey, indeed, it's fixed but revealed another bug apparently. [11:09] lovely [11:10] * Daviey syncs his iso [11:14] hiya any idea which release will include mysql-5.5 yet? [11:15] Daviey, ara, jibel: well I get the same - not much in the syslog [11:15] jamespage, cjwatson is on it. [11:16] excellent [11:16] yeah, I'm looking at it [11:17] jamespage, I'm adding alternate to automated iso testing. This is not really different from server but my plan is to create a template.alternate separated from server. What do you think ? [11:18] jibel: good idea [11:19] jibel: I really want to separate the templates from the main package into a bzr branch - means they can be updated much easier - one for next release [11:20] jamespage, we'll have usit-core for the main package, and usit-server, usit-alternate, usit-desktop, one per variant that's it ? [11:21] jibel: well we are almost there TBH - I just think that the test case templates should not be packaged and should be pulled from bzr prior to test execution [11:21] usit-core would remain - the others would be stored in bzr branches [11:22] understand. that's nice. [11:23] trying it out on the ec2 testing automation I'm currently working on [11:34] it's a udev regression [12:20] oh. So the ISOs are still hosed [12:24] yes, just uploading a udev fix now [12:27] will re respin the ISO? [13:13] I am planning to setup a RAID6 using 8 x 2TB SATA Drives. What if i have to reinstall the OS, will it see my RAID and detect the Partitions i made correctly? === patdk-wk_ is now known as patdk-wk [13:20] I'm installing Pootle on my server. It requires me to use a module for Apache. I'm supposed to do something like WSGIScriptAlias /pootle /location/of/wsgi.py. It tells me to do that in the main Apache config, but is it possible to do that for only a certain site, using a site configuration file like /etc/apache/sites-available/mypootle? [13:30] kim0: the libvirt sync had nothing to do with our quest for spice :) The client isn't there bc I've not yet created the spice package. Whatever is in libvirt is just there bc it was in upstream (or debian's package) [14:02] jdstrand, around ? [14:07] smoser: hey, what's up? [14:08] would you have time to review a package for me ? [14:09] smoser: I can try. I've got a couple sponsored uploads for natty FF ahead of you atm. what is it? [14:10] its a small native package that contains two initramfs tools [14:10] smoser: is this for FF? [14:10] um... [14:10] :) [14:10] yes [14:10] but its not terribly, terribly important, and i can seek other help [14:10] https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/+junk/cloud-initramfs-tools/ [14:12] smoser: ok. If I take it, it will be cutting it tight, especially if changes need to be made. I can do it, but it will be in a bit. if that is ok, then please put your signed source package, ready for upload/sponsorship on chinstrap and I'll look at it [14:13] ok. [14:13] is it recommended to use apt-get or aptitude to install packages? [14:13] I really want to setup a huge /data partition using raid6 with my 8 Drives. I assume i should have a seperate drive to install the OS own? Or just take two out of my 8 drives and use a small partition for raid1 so it can boot? [14:19] morning all [14:26] * ScottK pokes at SpamapS again. [14:26] ping === JamesHarrison` is now known as JamesHarrison [14:34] smoser: fyi, the FF stuff that is ahead of you is going to take a while longer than expected. I'm sorry [14:34] jdstrand, you need to manage your time better [14:34] smoser: haha [14:34] you shouldn't wait till the last minute to try to get features in. [14:34] oh wait, that was me [14:34] :) [14:35] smoser: well, I can only review stuff when it is given to me :) [14:35] thanks, though. [14:35] smoser: I'll try to get through it and ping you in case you need me [14:35] if there is time [14:36]