[00:24] <mhall119> good evening
[00:26] <mhall119> well, I turned in my 2 weeks resignation today
[00:35] <itnet7_> +1 mhall119 !!
[00:35] <itnet7_> I hope it all works out! (I have no doubts it will!!)
[00:35] <MichelleQ> it's been a crazy week around these parts.
[00:35] <itnet7_> MichelleQ: I'm sure
[00:35] <itnet7_> I wish I could be saying the same thing as mhall119 @ 19:26:17
[00:36] <itnet7_> but I am stuck... for now
[00:36] <MichelleQ> aaw, soon, hopefully
[00:36] <itnet7_> It got infinitely worse today
[00:36] <MichelleQ> oh, that sucks
[00:38] <itnet7_> Well, I can at least take comfort that it Can't get worse...
[00:38] <itnet7_> I am really happy for you mhall119 ! I know that you will do great with them, and they need great people! So it's definitely win-win
[00:39] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7_: sponsorship are open
[00:40] <itnet7_> Thanks RoAkSoAx !
[00:40] <RoAkSoAx> its all over the blogs :P
[00:41]  * MichelleQ isn't going to make it to Budapest.
[00:42] <itnet7_> MichelleQ: it would be really tough I think with the kids and traveling, and passports, and all
[00:42] <MichelleQ> yeah, and I'm just not ready to leave them for a week *that* far away. 
[00:43] <itnet7_> Yeah... I know what you mean.
[00:44] <MichelleQ> But UDS-October is SO on my schedule.  :-D
[00:44] <itnet7_> Definitely, I am so glad it's going to be here again!
[00:44] <MichelleQ> me too.  I'm already plotting.
[00:48] <MichelleQ> itnet7_: when are y'all going to come geocaching this direction?  
[00:48] <itnet7_> MichelleQ: I would like to try and come over this weekend if possible, but it depends on work
[00:50] <itnet7_> Do you have plans already for this weekend?
[00:50] <itnet7_> You guys could come over this way, and camp at Wickham Park!
[00:50] <itnet7_> Not sure how great of camping facilities they have but... 
[00:50] <MichelleQ> Saturday I've got to get new tires on my truck, mid-day.  Sunday, we're going to meet Buddy from Dinosaur Train.
[00:51] <MichelleQ> Hhm... for camping... we could come your way the weekend of the 19th.
[00:52] <itnet7_> Let me see how the campground is I will check on the 19th for availability
[00:52] <itnet7_> do you guys usually stay the weekend when you camp?
[00:52] <MichelleQ> yes. 
[00:52] <itnet7_> do you bring the pets?
[00:52] <MichelleQ> We'll come over Friday, stay thru Sunday. 
[00:52] <MichelleQ> Blake will come yes
[00:52] <itnet7_> Okay, let me check it out and see if they're booked
[00:53] <MichelleQ> thanks!
[00:54] <itnet7_> Michelle, pm?
[00:54] <MichelleQ> definitely
[03:44] <Golden> weathers beautiful in palm beach gardens hows it in your neck of the state?
[03:50] <itnet7_> Golden: not bad!
[04:04] <Golden> nice.. wish there was snow .. been a decade since I've seen any..
[13:21] <Teabagdad> hi
[13:21] <Teabagdad> hi all
[13:21] <Teabagdad> i am running macbuntu
[13:21] <Teabagdad> love it
[13:22] <Teabagdad> anyone here?
[13:23] <munz_werk> mornin Teabagdad 
[13:23] <munz_werk> cool
[13:23] <Teabagdad> morning
[13:23] <Teabagdad> anyone know if there is a pandora app for uubuntu
[13:24] <munz_werk> notsure
[13:24] <Teabagdad> ok well what is the purpose of this room
[13:24] <munz_werk> have you tried google?
[13:24] <Teabagdad> ill try again
[13:25] <munz_werk> the purpose is to help others, you sound kinda ungrateful
[13:25] <Teabagdad> no, just had coffee
[13:26] <Teabagdad> i am thinking of business plans.
[13:26] <munz_werk> :)
[13:26] <Teabagdad> appoligies ok
[13:26] <munz_werk> no worries just walked into a mess @ work :(
[13:27] <Teabagdad> at least u have a job
[13:27] <munz_werk> :) yes
[13:28] <munz_werk> there seems to be a way
[13:28] <munz_werk> install adobe air
[13:28] <Teabagdad> forget it lol
[13:28] <Teabagdad> i did to much linux work in the last 2 days lol
[13:28] <munz_werk> then a pandora app written in adobe air
[13:28] <Teabagdad> i need to go look for a job
[13:28] <munz_werk> lol
[13:28] <Teabagdad> u running ubuntu?
[13:28] <Teabagdad> 10.10?
[13:28] <munz_werk> yes, yes
[13:28] <munz_werk> link if interested http://linuxappfinder.com/package/pandora-radio
[13:30] <Teabagdad> thsanks
[13:30] <Teabagdad> thanks
[13:30] <Teabagdad> where u at in fla?
[13:30] <Teabagdad> im in boca
[13:30] <munz_werk> no prob
[13:30] <munz_werk> im in daytona beach
[13:30] <Teabagdad> hard sand
[13:30] <Teabagdad> how is life there
[13:30] <Teabagdad> ur age? i am 26
[13:30] <Teabagdad> male
[13:31] <munz_werk> life is dirty, lol, bikes, nascar and old people
[13:31] <munz_werk> 31 male
[13:31] <munz_werk> i run ubuntu 99% of the time, only when i have to test windows infrastructure i use ubuntu
[13:33] <munz_werk> i've switched 3 people over this year so far
[13:34] <munz_werk> mornin reya276 
[13:35] <reya276> Morning
[13:35] <reya276> Morning Everyone
[13:40] <mhall119> morning
[13:41] <munz_werk> mornin mhall119 
[13:47] <mhall119> anyone want to hold a global jam session between Tampa and Orlando on April 1st?
[13:47] <mhall119> zoopster cjohnston ^^
[13:47] <zoopster> are you fooling us mhall119?
[13:48] <munz_werk> lol
[13:48] <zoopster> and if anyone is around Daytona Beach (or west of there)  today...I could use your help.
[13:48] <munz_werk> whats up zoopster?
[13:49] <mhall119> zoopster: not my choice of start day :(
[13:49] <mhall119> zoopster: tiemonster is in Deland, it's about 30 minutes away
[13:49] <cjohnston> sure
[13:50] <tiemonster> what did I do?
[13:50] <mhall119> cjohnston: do you work that day?
[13:50] <cjohnston> nope
[13:50] <munz_werk> whats up? im in db, workin but whats up zoopster?
[13:50] <mhall119> cjohnston: cool
[13:51] <mhall119> cjohnston: want to pick a place with coffee and wifi?
[13:51] <tiemonster> what's going on
[13:51] <tiemonster> ?
[13:51] <cjohnston> that sounds good.. or are you asking me to pick it
[13:51] <mhall119> cjohnston: asking you to pick, unless you want to drive to Lakeland
[13:52] <cjohnston> i was thinking 1213 ww rd sounds good
[13:52] <cjohnston> ;-)
[13:52] <zoopster> I am working with a team to launch a camera payload along with the launch of Discovery to capture images of the liftoff from near space....need some help tracking it on the way down so we don't lose it if anyone might be available late this afternoon in a 50 mile radius west of Daytona
[13:52] <mhall119> cjohnston: what's that, your station?
[13:52] <cjohnston> umm
[13:52] <mhall119> oh wait, walt williams
[13:52] <mhall119> nvm
[13:52] <cjohnston> lol
[13:53] <mhall119> I'd have to check with Michelle, but that's probably okay
[13:53] <munz_werk> what time and what needs to be done?
[13:53] <cjohnston> mhall119 thinks to himself, "that number sounds really familiar"
[13:53]  * mhall119 wasn't thinking at all
[13:53] <cjohnston> sounds interesting zoopster 
[13:53]  * mhall119 needs more coffee
[13:54] <mhall119> zoopster: do you have like a 360 degree camera or someting?
[13:54] <zoopster> mhall119: we have 6 cameras
[13:54] <zoopster> all HD
[13:54] <mhall119> wow, nice
[13:55] <mhall119> waterproof?
[13:56] <cjohnston> how are you tracking it
[14:00] <zoopster> we have 3 different tracking mechanisms.
[14:04] <munz_werk> zoopster, how far west of daytona would you need someone to be, and what would you need done? visual tracking?
[14:09] <tiemonster> zoopster: can I chat with you when you have a chance?
[14:31] <zoopster> sure...I'm signing off for now...if you wan to chat call me 813.335.3206 - munz_werk tiemonster
[15:20] <reya276> hey is there a way to reset your default icons?
[15:33] <maxolasersquad> reya276: You can change your icon theme at System->Preferences->Appearance
[15:33] <reya276> oh I know that but I meant like how you could reset the main panels
[15:34] <reya276> I figured there would be a way to make the icons revert to the defaults too
[15:47] <mhall119> cjohnston: I'm thinking we make ours a summit-hacking jam
[15:48] <mhall119> try and get done whatever we want to have ready for UDS-O
[16:09] <cjohnston> how about an hof
[16:09] <cjohnston> mhall119: ^
[17:00] <mhall119> if we have summit done before then, sure
[17:00] <mhall119> btw, someone way looking at getting started on hof, did he get in touch with you?
[17:00] <mhall119> cdbs
[17:41] <dantalizing> morning
[17:54] <mhall119> missed it by about 45 minutes
[17:55] <mhall119> unless you're in California already
[17:58] <tiemonster> mhall119: what would be a good Django app to benchmark a python application server?
[18:10] <mhall119> hmmm....
[18:10] <mhall119> I'm not sure exactly
[18:10]  * mhall119 doesn't know of any heavy django apps
[18:13] <mhall119> tiemonster: maybe https://github.com/jacobian/djangobench ?
[18:14] <tiemonster> let me clarify
[18:14] <tiemonster> what is a commonly used Django application that would be good to show performance differences between deployments?
[18:15] <mhall119> that I don't know
[18:15] <mhall119> but that benchmark is for django itself, so it should be useful for showing one deployment being faster than another
[18:18] <tiemonster> I was thinking of Pinax or something like that
[18:19] <mhall119> that probably won't tell you much unless you get a bunch of people using it
[18:19] <tiemonster> that's what siege is for
[18:19] <mhall119> siege?
[18:20] <mhall119> btw, did you get to open source your reporting app?
[18:20] <tiemonster> apt-cache show siege
[18:20] <tiemonster> mhall119: we're rebuilding the functionality on Pentaho BI
[18:20] <mhall119> oh, was it Java or Django?
[18:20] <tiemonster> it never got into a usable enough state to use on Django
[18:20] <mhall119> ok
[18:20] <tiemonster> a lot of raw SQL and the like
[18:21] <tiemonster> the problem is that almost every BI vendor in the world uses Java
[18:21] <tiemonster> writing it on Python meant rewriting a lot of functionality
[18:25] <mhall119> understandable
[18:25] <tiemonster> plus now we need a succession plan for when I graduate
[18:26] <tiemonster> because as soon as I have that piece of paper, I'm looking for a higher-paying job ;-)
[18:31] <mhall119> Moffitt is hiring
[18:32] <tiemonster> too far away
[18:32] <mhall119> I know
[18:37]  * mhall119 likes that nasa tv on their website uses gstreamer plugin
[18:37] <mhall119> instead of flash
[18:38] <mhall119> 10% CPU unsage instead of 80%
[18:39] <tiemonster> I know, right?
[18:43] <maxolasersquad> If anyone wants to give me some python help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/571853/
[18:43] <maxolasersquad> When get_connections is called, it returns a list of identical objects.
[18:44] <maxolasersquad> I think that when connection is appended, it is a reference, so when it is modified on the next itteration, the object I just put in my list is modified as well.
[18:44] <tiemonster> are you making an instance on line 23?
[18:45] <tiemonster> you might want to make an instance on each iteration if you're expecting different results
[18:45] <maxolasersquad> Yes
[18:45] <maxolasersquad> I want to return back a list of connection objects
[18:45] <mhall119> maxolasersquad: that's exactly what's happening
[18:45] <mhall119> you're modifying the same instance, and adding additional references to it
[18:46] <maxolasersquad> That's what I figured.  What's the best way to do what I am trying to acomplish?
[18:46] <mhall119> either call connection = Connection() inside the for loop
[18:46] <mhall119> or use the copy module to make a copy of it
[18:46] <mhall119> making a  new instance would probably by cheaper
[18:46] <mhall119> since you're not setting or keeping anything outside the loop
[18:47] <mhall119> unless there's a high cost of initialization, just make new instances
[18:47] <maxolasersquad> So if I do connection = Connection() in my loop, it will create a new instance of connection, and not destroy the version in my list?
[18:47] <mhall119> and, given than your Connection object is just a simple object, there won't be
[18:48] <mhall119> maxolasersquad: correct
[18:48] <maxolasersquad> Cool, thanks.
[18:48] <mhall119> because 'connection' is just a name used to reference the variable within the loop
[18:48] <tiemonster> I win
[18:48] <tiemonster> :-)
[18:50] <mhall119> maxolasersquad: any reason you're using a Connection object instead of just a dict?
[18:50] <maxolasersquad> mhall119: Probably because I'm not "thinking python" yet, I guess.
[18:51] <mhall119> ah
[18:51] <maxolasersquad> tiemonster: Congratulations, I think.
[18:51] <maxolasersquad> I'm thinking about how I would do it in PHP and then writing it in Python.
[18:51] <tiemonster> maxolasersquad: "thinking Python" will ruin you for life. You'll never be able to program Java with joy again.
[18:52] <maxolasersquad> ;)
[18:54] <mhall119> lol
[18:54] <mhall119> but so true
[18:55] <mhall119> it ruins PHP even more
[19:06] <mhall119> it ruins PHP even more
[19:06] <mhall119> gah, wrong window
[19:34] <dantalizing> tiemonster: have yall had a chance to test performance of pentaho yet?
[19:35] <tiemonster> dantalizing: it's all relative
[19:35] <tiemonster> a majority of the performance problems are solved by using MySQL :-)
[19:35] <tiemonster> or anything better than HSQLDB
[19:36] <dantalizing> who is this for?
[19:37] <mhall119> I thought hsqldb was supposed to be fairly fast
[19:37] <tiemonster> mhall119: well apparently it isn't
[19:38] <tiemonster> OLAP flew when we hooked it up to MySQL instead of HSQLDB
[19:38] <tiemonster> dantalizing: who is what for?
[19:38] <dantalizing> which company
[19:38] <dantalizing> where do you work
[19:38] <mhall119> maybe I'm thinking of H2
[19:38] <dantalizing> cool taht yall are using pentaho
[19:39] <dantalizing> every database says they're fast
[19:39]  * mhall119 needs to learn Hungarian
[19:39] <mhall119> but I can't quite figure out how to use Parley
[21:30] <dantalizing> everytime i see a picture of ryan dahl, i think of govatent
[21:32] <DammitJim> is it crazy to have a calendar on a montor running 24/7?
[21:33] <dantalizing> yes
[21:33] <DammitJim> my wife claims she doesn't update her google calendar because she hates the fact that she can't see the whole month properly on her 10" netbook
[21:34] <dantalizing> make the fonts smaller
[21:34] <DammitJim> doesn't work
[21:34] <dantalizing> zoom out
[21:34] <DammitJim> this netbook's 1024x564 is just too low resolution
[21:34] <DammitJim> you can't read it when you zoom out
[21:35] <dantalizing> if i can read it on my phone, you can read it on your netbook
[21:36] <DammitJim> dantalizing, it's not me... it's my wife LOL
[21:36] <dantalizing> same thing
[21:36] <DammitJim> is the atom dual core n550 that much faster than the atom n455?
[21:37] <dantalizing> send her to calendar.google.com/m
[21:37] <reya276> hey I'm looking at my system monitor and there is a process called "heart" what is that for?
[21:37] <dantalizing> reya276: thats a relic from when your computer went to oz
[21:38] <reya276> LOL...
[21:40] <reya276> also what is "adb" when I hover over it I get "adb-fork-server server". What it that?
[21:41] <DammitJim> android development b
[21:41] <dantalizing> where 'b' stands for 'biach'
[21:41] <reya276> ah ok
[21:41] <reya276> thanks
[21:41] <reya276> how can I stop that from being started?
[21:43] <maxolasersquad> reya276: Stop starting it.
[21:43] <reya276> lol
[21:43] <maxolasersquad> What do you get from which ls
[21:43] <dantalizing> you laugh but he's right
[21:44] <dantalizing> adb doesnt start on its own unless you tell it to
[21:44] <reya276> man I got 8GB of DDR3 RAM yet my system had to resort on using the swap
[21:45] <maxolasersquad> reya276: Err, which heart
[21:45] <reya276> Firefox crashed and that was it, from then on my system was performing like crap which it has not done that ever
[21:45] <reya276> I just hope canonical is not adding bloat to Ubuntu
[21:45] <dantalizing> lol
[21:46] <reya276> could the firefox crash have caused my graphics driver to malfunction and thus make the overall system performance run like crap
[21:50] <maxolasersquad> reya276: No, but a seperate issue could possible cause both to happen.
[21:50] <reya276> k
[21:50] <maxolasersquad> Or, the two incidences could be non-related, except in proximity of time from which they happened.
[22:02] <dantalizing> or the whole perception of running like crap could be wrong