/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/24/#ubuntu-us-oh.txt

Cheri703wb00:00
canthus13Cheri703: there are no girls on teh intarwebz.00:01
canthus13Unit193: Sorry. I'm dealing with kids and homework. :(00:02
Unit193canthus13: I got it /sesrver00:02
Cheri703canthus13: I was going to make some clever comment regarding genitals, but...I don't feel like putting in the effort00:02
Cheri703toxic9813: where in ohio are you?00:02
canthus13Unit193: /server is only gonna show the metaserver you initially connected to if you connected to irc.freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com...00:03
toxic9813Urbana00:03
Cheri703that's cool00:03
canthus13Unit193: /whois <nick> will tell the actual server.  you're on leguin.freenode.net00:04
toxic9813looks like theres a LoCo in columbus.00:04
Cheri703toxic9813: I used to live in marysville ;)00:05
canthus13there's a Reloco.00:05
Cheri703* :)00:05
Unit193canthus13: I was connected to freenode and trying to reconnect to freenode, that's why I was having errors...00:05
Unit193Do you see my real hostname??00:07
toxic9813so... what topic is this? any? could this be like a help chat? lol. I used to 'buntu a lot till I started Windows gaming.00:09
canthus13Unit193: yep. just /whois yourself.00:09
canthus13Oh. no. not YOUR hostname. you're cloaked.00:09
Cheri703toxic9813: if you need help with something, just ask, if we don't know, we can direct you to somewhere that may, or we might just say "uhm...probably should google it" :)00:09
Unit193canthus13: I could see myself and I didn't know if you could :/00:10
toxic9813cool.00:12
dmcglone1Hi all01:17
Unit193Hello dmcglone1!01:18
Cheri703yo01:18
dmcglone1What ya all up to?01:19
Cheri703I'm on a ham radio net at the moment01:19
dmcglone1I see01:19
Cheri703some guy is chuckling that a new person's call sign is kd8poo01:19
Cheri703old guy is like, "heh, he's going to get a lot of static about that, har har har"01:20
canthus13k-date poo.01:20
canthus13or kd ate poo.01:20
canthus13Heh.01:20
Cheri703yeah01:20
Cheri703my call is kc8qxs01:20
Cheri703but people can never make out the xs, I get "sf, xx, sx, fs, fx" whatever, so I have to say mine as kc8 quebec x-ray sierra01:21
dmcglone1You sound like a drill sargent01:22
dmcglone1lol01:22
Cheri703phonetic alphabet started with radio use01:22
canthus13Yup.01:23
Cheri703my whole family has licenses, we're kc8qxq, kc8qxr, kc8qxs, and kc8qxt...we got them on the same day01:23
* canthus13 uses it at work all the time.01:23
Cheri703people like to make up their own01:23
Cheri703heh, this one chick is kd8fnq, I always think "effin' q!"01:23
Cheri703-_- there are 2 guys that ALWAYS have additional comments, and they're 90% useless ramblings01:24
dmcglone1I always thought Ham radio was a radio frequency that came from a pigs ass01:24
dmcglone1well I thought I would make it 91%01:26
Cheri703hmm01:26
Unit193That channel is way too busy to leave open...02:20
canthus13Which channel?02:21
Unit193on server coldfront02:22
canthus13ah.02:24
Unit193Multi servers is new to me...02:26
canthus13I haven't messed with multiple servers.02:27
Cheri703I'm frustrated...I am looking for something that must exist in ubuntu, but I don't know where/how to find it :(02:54
paultagCheri703: humm?02:57
Cheri703paultag: I'm going crazy!02:57
paultagCheri703: I have a few minutes (I leave the lab at 10), anything I can help with?02:57
paultagCheri703: what's up! :)02:57
Cheri703ok, so when you open sound settings, it will show you the current mic input level (it shows the line when the volume changes as you speak) yes?02:58
paultagCheri703: yes ma'am02:58
Cheri703ok, so in theory, there is SOMEWHERE that'd have that value in numerical (and/or acquirable) form, yes?02:58
paultagCheri703: yes ma'am02:58
Cheri703I want to set something up that is "if audio input goes above X level, then play this pre-specified audio file"02:59
paultagCheri703: sure, sounds easy enough :)02:59
Cheri703so I need to figure out where that value is, and how to point at it02:59
Cheri703but NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO FIND IT!02:59
Cheri703>.<02:59
paultagCheri703: you'll need to use gstreamer to pull the data in from the input stream. You can get a volume level at each instance, so watch that. Once it goes past a point, use gstreamer  (again) to play the file to the default sink02:59
paultagCheri703: you'll need to code :)02:59
Cheri703hmm...ok03:00
paultagand that's two minutes!03:00
Cheri703might make my brother help, or see if I can pay someone in cookies or baked goods03:00
paultagCheri703: I'll BRB. Walking home03:00
Cheri703kk03:00
lostConnectionHello, so I heard there was a meeting today?03:41
canthus13Meeting? No..03:48
canthus13Prolly an Ubuntu Hour, though.03:48
Cheri703columbus ubuntu hour was tonight03:48
lostConnectionWell I guess that is what meant. I'm kind of new to the group. I'm not quite sure how the group is run.03:57
Cheri703where in ohio are you?03:57
lostConnectionI'm originally from Mentor. I'm going to school in Kent right now.03:57
canthus13lostConnection: You should hook up with thafreak.03:58
canthus13iirc, he's out there.03:58
Cheri703kk, basically, in different areas of the state, there are "ReLoCos" Really Local Communities, smaller groups that get together to meet up and hang out every few weeks03:58
Cheri703there is one in akron, one in cleveland03:58
canthus13but yeah.. 'meetings' are IRC-based and occur in here.03:58
Cheri703and others03:58
lostConnectionYeah I am really looking to meet more people from the community.03:58
lostConnectionRight now I'm studying computer science. I have been interested in Ubuntu for a few years but never been very active.03:59
Cheri703weird, client brought me a zune to mess with, I've had it plugged in off and on for days now, and it wouldn't charge or start up, and now tonight I plugged it in again and suddenly it's working o.O hooray microsoft04:03
canthus13lostConnection: Wouldn't be surprised if you knew Doug then, if you're at Kent.04:04
lostConnectionI'm a transfer student so I don't know. The CS department is fairly small though.04:05
canthus13Cheri703: My Zen Vision:M did that when it sat for several months without charging.  Took 3 days solid of charging to get it working.04:06
lostConnectionCheri703: I love my Zune. But they do have some glitches. Do you have an HD??04:06
canthus13it was kinda comatose.04:06
Cheri703it's an 80gb04:07
Cheri703it's not mine04:07
Cheri703canthus13: they said that it'd been "glitchy" and had battery issues...that's all the info I got -_-04:07
lostConnectionok I have an 80gb also04:07
lostConnectionI've found with a Zune it is almost better just to wipe the harddrive and reinstall the firmware.04:09
Cheri703I was leaning that direction, I just needed it to turn on long enough to get it connected to the computer04:09
lostConnectionhahaha yeah you'll probably have to charge if for a day. I've had problems with the battery if it hasn't charged for a while.04:11
Cheri703I have no idea how long they'd had it plugged in or not04:12
Cheri703wow zune software takes 300 years to install04:46
lostConnectionhahaha yeah and it sucks when you are 75% done and you get an installation error04:56
Cheri703-_- I turned off the zune so it'd charge faster, and now when I go to turn it back on...NOTHING just like before -_-05:07
lostConnection-.-  give it time05:11
Cheri703yeah, we'll see05:11
Cheri703will call client to see if she wants me to replace the battery05:11
paultagdamn, I'm stressed05:13
paultagI need small things to snap in 'twixt05:14
Cheri703hmm...pretzel rods are good for that :)05:14
Cheri703stress sucks05:14
Cheri703want to write a mini program for me to take your mind off it ;D05:14
Cheri703kidding05:14
paultagwhat's worse is that it all get put up in my sholders and neck05:14
Cheri703yeah, I get really knotty shoulders05:15
paultagCheri703: I have homework to finish, but in the morning, I'd gladly help you05:15
Cheri703heh, I appreciate that, it's nothing super urgent05:15
paultagit's no fun getting locked up sholders and neck05:15
Cheri703I'm trying to make a bark control with spare laptop05:15
paultagCheri703: brilliant!05:15
Cheri703I have a laptop, but not $100 to buy a bark control05:15
Cheri703so...trying to work something out05:15
paultagCheri703: what sucks is we got rid of OSS05:16
paultagCheri703: you'd have been able to cat /dev/dsp05:16
Cheri703I don't know much about the sound systems, there's like 37 of them05:16
paultagaye05:16
Cheri703I'd be open to installing an older version of ubuntu if it'd make it easier05:16
paultaghummmmm05:16
Cheri703it's an old-ish (like 3-5 yrs) dell laptop05:17
paultagCheri703: tbh using gstreamer will let you do more with it ( actually adjust the threshold )05:17
Cheri703so probably could work fine with older ubuntu05:17
Cheri703ok05:17
Cheri703I am going to just put it right in front of the dog crates and have it blare an annoying noise at them when they bark :) just have to make sure it doesn't trigger from the guinea pigs05:18
lostConnectiondamn that's a good idea05:18
Cheri703they squeak loudly05:18
paultagCheri703: here are some sparse basics -- http://www.jonobacon.org/2006/08/28/getting-started-with-gstreamer-with-python/05:18
Cheri703kk05:19
paultagCheri703: I'll be able to help more when I have time, but that's an OK overview05:19
Cheri703ok, I appreciate it05:19
Cheri703:)05:19
paultag:)05:19
Cheri703you've been the most helpful so far!05:19
Cheri703I can always count on paultag !05:19
Cheri703:D05:19
paultagoh, gee, thanks! :)05:19
paultagCheri703: thanks :)05:19
Cheri703that overview is mostly gibberish to me at this point in the night, but will reread when I wake up05:22
paultagCheri703: just remember the core of UNIXness. There's only one principal you need to know in order to work with unix05:22
paultagCheri703: and that is "Everything is a file"05:22
paultagCheri703: that means that when you do start thinking about this, think of the microphone as a file05:22
Cheri703that's what I figured, I just didn't know where to find the file! I knew it should exist05:22
paultagCheri703: no different then a .wav :)05:22
paultagCheri703: yeah, it's abstracted away in the pulse subsystems05:22
paultagCheri703: gstreamer will let you use this on any audio platform, but keep the logic05:23
paultagand remember, to gstreamer, a .wav is no different then the audio iput05:23
paultaginput *05:23
Cheri703hmm...k05:23
paultagso if you can make this work on an audio file, you can make it work on the mic (hint hint)05:23
paultag;)05:23
Cheri703hrmmm05:24
paultagbreaking a problem up always works best05:24
Cheri703ok, I don't know how to program, so this will be an interesting project05:24
paultagCheri703: python's nice and friendly :)05:24
paultagCheri703: (and something awesome to know!)05:24
Cheri703yeah, my original thought was about a numerical value for the mic volume level, make a program/script/something to monitor that level, and "if value goes above X, then play this"05:24
paultag:)05:25
Cheri703I poked at it over a year ago, learned a bit of basic stuff, but it was a lot to take in at that point, had a LOT going on05:25
Cheri703I can generally conceptualize how a program might work, it's the details of implementing that are meh...I help my brother think through roadblocks sometimes when he's working on stuff05:26
paultagCheri703: :)05:26
paultagCheri703: python is almost pseudo-code05:26
lostConnectionyeah I just started learning python it nearly blew my mind how little syntax plays into your programming.05:27
paultaglostConnection: mmhum05:28
Cheri703he he "tonnes"05:28
Cheri703ah british people05:28
paultagright!05:29
Cheri703(one of my best friends is british, I make fun of him for his spelling, he makes fun of mine :) )05:29
paultagoh brits05:29
paultagthere are tons in the f/oss world05:29
paultagit's actually sorta funny05:29
Cheri703my friend started dev8d over there, he goes to lots of conferences, across various things05:31
Cheri703but doesn't do much with the ubuntu world :/05:31
Cheri703other than helping me with stuff!05:31
paultagawwwww05:37
paultaglame!05:37
Cheri703I have been trying to get him involved, he's a wealth of knowledge, but he does a LOT of other stuff05:37
Cheri703he's a busy guy05:37
Cheri703also been helping build reprap printers lately :)05:38
paultag:)05:39
canthus13Nice. I'm thinking about building one someday.05:43
Cheri703there is some cool stuff people have made05:46
Unit193I'm really happy because I found nano for win! am I crazy? (I have to use it at times...)05:55
Cheri703heh05:55
* Cheri703 woke up earlier than usual14:58
canthus13Just bought one of these to replace using his wife's phone for video clips:  http://cgi.ebay.com/Private-Eye-Mini-Hidden-Wireless-DVR-Cam-Stick-Recorder_W0QQitemZ230589979073QQcategoryZ48629QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D731978346160381599620:17
Cheri703Unit193: !!20:39
canthus13blargh.20:43
Cheri703?20:43
Unit193Cheri703: what?20:45
Unit193Cheri703: What did I do?20:45
Cheri703I got a reply to the "mansfield ubuntu hour canceled" email, someone new is going to come next time!20:45
Cheri703hooray@20:45
canthus13Unit193: you broke teh intarwebz.20:45
Unit193canthus13: I'll blame that on my sister...20:46
Unit193Cheri703: sweet! do you know where the person is from? (not a replay to the list)20:47
Cheri703no idea, I'm assuming our area20:48
Cheri703I'm going to look him up on lp in a bit20:48

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