[00:00] <Cheri703> wb
[00:01] <canthus13> Cheri703: there are no girls on teh intarwebz.
[00:02] <canthus13> Unit193: Sorry. I'm dealing with kids and homework. :(
[00:02] <Unit193> canthus13: I got it /sesrver
[00:02] <Cheri703> canthus13: I was going to make some clever comment regarding genitals, but...I don't feel like putting in the effort
[00:02] <Cheri703> toxic9813: where in ohio are you?
[00:03] <canthus13> Unit193: /server is only gonna show the metaserver you initially connected to if you connected to irc.freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com...
[00:03] <toxic9813> Urbana
[00:03] <Cheri703> that's cool
[00:04] <canthus13> Unit193: /whois <nick> will tell the actual server.  you're on leguin.freenode.net
[00:04] <toxic9813> looks like theres a LoCo in columbus.
[00:05] <Cheri703> toxic9813: I used to live in marysville ;)
[00:05] <canthus13> there's a Reloco.
[00:05] <Cheri703> * :)
[00:05] <Unit193> canthus13: I was connected to freenode and trying to reconnect to freenode, that's why I was having errors...
[00:07] <Unit193> Do you see my real hostname??
[00:09] <toxic9813> so... what topic is this? any? could this be like a help chat? lol. I used to 'buntu a lot till I started Windows gaming.
[00:09] <canthus13> Unit193: yep. just /whois yourself.
[00:09] <canthus13> Oh. no. not YOUR hostname. you're cloaked.
[00:09] <Cheri703> toxic9813: if you need help with something, just ask, if we don't know, we can direct you to somewhere that may, or we might just say "uhm...probably should google it" :)
[00:10] <Unit193> canthus13: I could see myself and I didn't know if you could :/
[00:12] <toxic9813> cool.
[01:17] <dmcglone1> Hi all
[01:18] <Unit193> Hello dmcglone1!
[01:18] <Cheri703> yo
[01:19] <dmcglone1> What ya all up to?
[01:19] <Cheri703> I'm on a ham radio net at the moment
[01:19] <dmcglone1> I see
[01:19] <Cheri703> some guy is chuckling that a new person's call sign is kd8poo
[01:20] <Cheri703> old guy is like, "heh, he's going to get a lot of static about that, har har har"
[01:20] <canthus13> k-date poo.
[01:20] <canthus13> or kd ate poo.
[01:20] <canthus13> Heh.
[01:20] <Cheri703> yeah
[01:20] <Cheri703> my call is kc8qxs
[01:21] <Cheri703> but people can never make out the xs, I get "sf, xx, sx, fs, fx" whatever, so I have to say mine as kc8 quebec x-ray sierra
[01:22] <dmcglone1> You sound like a drill sargent
[01:22] <dmcglone1> lol
[01:22] <Cheri703> phonetic alphabet started with radio use
[01:23] <canthus13> Yup.
[01:23] <Cheri703> my whole family has licenses, we're kc8qxq, kc8qxr, kc8qxs, and kc8qxt...we got them on the same day
[01:23]  * canthus13 uses it at work all the time.
[01:23] <Cheri703> people like to make up their own
[01:23] <Cheri703> heh, this one chick is kd8fnq, I always think "effin' q!"
[01:24] <Cheri703> -_- there are 2 guys that ALWAYS have additional comments, and they're 90% useless ramblings
[01:24] <dmcglone1> I always thought Ham radio was a radio frequency that came from a pigs ass
[01:26] <dmcglone1> well I thought I would make it 91%
[01:26] <Cheri703> hmm
[02:20] <Unit193> That channel is way too busy to leave open...
[02:21] <canthus13> Which channel?
[02:22] <Unit193> on server coldfront
[02:24] <canthus13> ah.
[02:26] <Unit193> Multi servers is new to me...
[02:27] <canthus13> I haven't messed with multiple servers.
[02:54] <Cheri703> I'm frustrated...I am looking for something that must exist in ubuntu, but I don't know where/how to find it :(
[02:57] <paultag> Cheri703: humm?
[02:57] <Cheri703> paultag: I'm going crazy!
[02:57] <paultag> Cheri703: I have a few minutes (I leave the lab at 10), anything I can help with?
[02:57] <paultag> Cheri703: what's up! :)
[02:58] <Cheri703> ok, so when you open sound settings, it will show you the current mic input level (it shows the line when the volume changes as you speak) yes?
[02:58] <paultag> Cheri703: yes ma'am
[02:58] <Cheri703> ok, so in theory, there is SOMEWHERE that'd have that value in numerical (and/or acquirable) form, yes?
[02:58] <paultag> Cheri703: yes ma'am
[02:59] <Cheri703> I want to set something up that is "if audio input goes above X level, then play this pre-specified audio file"
[02:59] <paultag> Cheri703: sure, sounds easy enough :)
[02:59] <Cheri703> so I need to figure out where that value is, and how to point at it
[02:59] <Cheri703> but NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO FIND IT!
[02:59] <Cheri703> >.<
[02:59] <paultag> Cheri703: you'll need to use gstreamer to pull the data in from the input stream. You can get a volume level at each instance, so watch that. Once it goes past a point, use gstreamer  (again) to play the file to the default sink
[02:59] <paultag> Cheri703: you'll need to code :)
[03:00] <Cheri703> hmm...ok
[03:00] <paultag> and that's two minutes!
[03:00] <Cheri703> might make my brother help, or see if I can pay someone in cookies or baked goods
[03:00] <paultag> Cheri703: I'll BRB. Walking home
[03:00] <Cheri703> kk
[03:41] <lostConnection> Hello, so I heard there was a meeting today?
[03:48] <canthus13> Meeting? No..
[03:48] <canthus13> Prolly an Ubuntu Hour, though.
[03:48] <Cheri703> columbus ubuntu hour was tonight
[03:57] <lostConnection> Well I guess that is what meant. I'm kind of new to the group. I'm not quite sure how the group is run.
[03:57] <Cheri703> where in ohio are you?
[03:57] <lostConnection> I'm originally from Mentor. I'm going to school in Kent right now.
[03:58] <canthus13> lostConnection: You should hook up with thafreak.
[03:58] <canthus13> iirc, he's out there.
[03:58] <Cheri703> kk, basically, in different areas of the state, there are "ReLoCos" Really Local Communities, smaller groups that get together to meet up and hang out every few weeks
[03:58] <Cheri703> there is one in akron, one in cleveland
[03:58] <canthus13> but yeah.. 'meetings' are IRC-based and occur in here.
[03:58] <Cheri703> and others
[03:58] <lostConnection> Yeah I am really looking to meet more people from the community.
[03:59] <lostConnection> Right now I'm studying computer science. I have been interested in Ubuntu for a few years but never been very active.
[04:03] <Cheri703> weird, client brought me a zune to mess with, I've had it plugged in off and on for days now, and it wouldn't charge or start up, and now tonight I plugged it in again and suddenly it's working o.O hooray microsoft
[04:04] <canthus13> lostConnection: Wouldn't be surprised if you knew Doug then, if you're at Kent.
[04:05] <lostConnection> I'm a transfer student so I don't know. The CS department is fairly small though.
[04:06] <canthus13> Cheri703: My Zen Vision:M did that when it sat for several months without charging.  Took 3 days solid of charging to get it working.
[04:06] <lostConnection> Cheri703: I love my Zune. But they do have some glitches. Do you have an HD??
[04:06] <canthus13> it was kinda comatose.
[04:07] <Cheri703> it's an 80gb
[04:07] <Cheri703> it's not mine
[04:07] <Cheri703> canthus13: they said that it'd been "glitchy" and had battery issues...that's all the info I got -_-
[04:07] <lostConnection> ok I have an 80gb also
[04:09] <lostConnection> I've found with a Zune it is almost better just to wipe the harddrive and reinstall the firmware.
[04:09] <Cheri703> I was leaning that direction, I just needed it to turn on long enough to get it connected to the computer
[04:11] <lostConnection> hahaha yeah you'll probably have to charge if for a day. I've had problems with the battery if it hasn't charged for a while.
[04:12] <Cheri703> I have no idea how long they'd had it plugged in or not
[04:46] <Cheri703> wow zune software takes 300 years to install
[04:56] <lostConnection> hahaha yeah and it sucks when you are 75% done and you get an installation error
[05:07] <Cheri703> -_- I turned off the zune so it'd charge faster, and now when I go to turn it back on...NOTHING just like before -_-
[05:11] <lostConnection> -.-  give it time
[05:11] <Cheri703> yeah, we'll see
[05:11] <Cheri703> will call client to see if she wants me to replace the battery
[05:13] <paultag> damn, I'm stressed
[05:14] <paultag> I need small things to snap in 'twixt
[05:14] <Cheri703> hmm...pretzel rods are good for that :)
[05:14] <Cheri703> stress sucks
[05:14] <Cheri703> want to write a mini program for me to take your mind off it ;D
[05:14] <Cheri703> kidding
[05:14] <paultag> what's worse is that it all get put up in my sholders and neck
[05:15] <Cheri703> yeah, I get really knotty shoulders
[05:15] <paultag> Cheri703: I have homework to finish, but in the morning, I'd gladly help you
[05:15] <Cheri703> heh, I appreciate that, it's nothing super urgent
[05:15] <paultag> it's no fun getting locked up sholders and neck
[05:15] <Cheri703> I'm trying to make a bark control with spare laptop
[05:15] <paultag> Cheri703: brilliant!
[05:15] <Cheri703> I have a laptop, but not $100 to buy a bark control
[05:15] <Cheri703> so...trying to work something out
[05:16] <paultag> Cheri703: what sucks is we got rid of OSS
[05:16] <paultag> Cheri703: you'd have been able to cat /dev/dsp
[05:16] <Cheri703> I don't know much about the sound systems, there's like 37 of them
[05:16] <paultag> aye
[05:16] <Cheri703> I'd be open to installing an older version of ubuntu if it'd make it easier
[05:16] <paultag> hummmmm
[05:17] <Cheri703> it's an old-ish (like 3-5 yrs) dell laptop
[05:17] <paultag> Cheri703: tbh using gstreamer will let you do more with it ( actually adjust the threshold )
[05:17] <Cheri703> so probably could work fine with older ubuntu
[05:17] <Cheri703> ok
[05:18] <Cheri703> I am going to just put it right in front of the dog crates and have it blare an annoying noise at them when they bark :) just have to make sure it doesn't trigger from the guinea pigs
[05:18] <lostConnection> damn that's a good idea
[05:18] <Cheri703> they squeak loudly
[05:18] <paultag> Cheri703: here are some sparse basics -- http://www.jonobacon.org/2006/08/28/getting-started-with-gstreamer-with-python/
[05:19] <Cheri703> kk
[05:19] <paultag> Cheri703: I'll be able to help more when I have time, but that's an OK overview
[05:19] <Cheri703> ok, I appreciate it
[05:19] <Cheri703> :)
[05:19] <paultag> :)
[05:19] <Cheri703> you've been the most helpful so far!
[05:19] <Cheri703> I can always count on paultag !
[05:19] <Cheri703> :D
[05:19] <paultag> oh, gee, thanks! :)
[05:19] <paultag> Cheri703: thanks :)
[05:22] <Cheri703> that overview is mostly gibberish to me at this point in the night, but will reread when I wake up
[05:22] <paultag> Cheri703: just remember the core of UNIXness. There's only one principal you need to know in order to work with unix
[05:22] <paultag> Cheri703: and that is "Everything is a file"
[05:22] <paultag> Cheri703: that means that when you do start thinking about this, think of the microphone as a file
[05:22] <Cheri703> that's what I figured, I just didn't know where to find the file! I knew it should exist
[05:22] <paultag> Cheri703: no different then a .wav :)
[05:22] <paultag> Cheri703: yeah, it's abstracted away in the pulse subsystems
[05:23] <paultag> Cheri703: gstreamer will let you use this on any audio platform, but keep the logic
[05:23] <paultag> and remember, to gstreamer, a .wav is no different then the audio iput
[05:23] <paultag> input *
[05:23] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[05:23] <paultag> so if you can make this work on an audio file, you can make it work on the mic (hint hint)
[05:23] <paultag> ;)
[05:24] <Cheri703> hrmmm
[05:24] <paultag> breaking a problem up always works best
[05:24] <Cheri703> ok, I don't know how to program, so this will be an interesting project
[05:24] <paultag> Cheri703: python's nice and friendly :)
[05:24] <paultag> Cheri703: (and something awesome to know!)
[05:24] <Cheri703> yeah, my original thought was about a numerical value for the mic volume level, make a program/script/something to monitor that level, and "if value goes above X, then play this"
[05:25] <paultag> :)
[05:25] <Cheri703> I poked at it over a year ago, learned a bit of basic stuff, but it was a lot to take in at that point, had a LOT going on
[05:26] <Cheri703> I can generally conceptualize how a program might work, it's the details of implementing that are meh...I help my brother think through roadblocks sometimes when he's working on stuff
[05:26] <paultag> Cheri703: :)
[05:26] <paultag> Cheri703: python is almost pseudo-code
[05:27] <lostConnection> yeah I just started learning python it nearly blew my mind how little syntax plays into your programming.
[05:28] <paultag> lostConnection: mmhum
[05:28] <Cheri703> he he "tonnes"
[05:28] <Cheri703> ah british people
[05:29] <paultag> right!
[05:29] <Cheri703> (one of my best friends is british, I make fun of him for his spelling, he makes fun of mine :) )
[05:29] <paultag> oh brits
[05:29] <paultag> there are tons in the f/oss world
[05:29] <paultag> it's actually sorta funny
[05:31] <Cheri703> my friend started dev8d over there, he goes to lots of conferences, across various things
[05:31] <Cheri703> but doesn't do much with the ubuntu world :/
[05:31] <Cheri703> other than helping me with stuff!
[05:37] <paultag> awwwww
[05:37] <paultag> lame!
[05:37] <Cheri703> I have been trying to get him involved, he's a wealth of knowledge, but he does a LOT of other stuff
[05:37] <Cheri703> he's a busy guy
[05:38] <Cheri703> also been helping build reprap printers lately :)
[05:39] <paultag> :)
[05:43] <canthus13> Nice. I'm thinking about building one someday.
[05:46] <Cheri703> there is some cool stuff people have made
[05:55] <Unit193> I'm really happy because I found nano for win! am I crazy? (I have to use it at times...)
[05:55] <Cheri703> heh
[14:58]  * Cheri703 woke up earlier than usual
[20:17] <canthus13> Just bought one of these to replace using his wife's phone for video clips:  http://cgi.ebay.com/Private-Eye-Mini-Hidden-Wireless-DVR-Cam-Stick-Recorder_W0QQitemZ230589979073QQcategoryZ48629QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp5197.m7QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7319783461603815996
[20:39] <Cheri703> Unit193: !!
[20:43] <canthus13> blargh.
[20:43] <Cheri703> ?
[20:45] <Unit193> Cheri703: what?
[20:45] <Unit193> Cheri703: What did I do?
[20:45] <Cheri703> I got a reply to the "mansfield ubuntu hour canceled" email, someone new is going to come next time!
[20:45] <Cheri703> hooray@
[20:45] <canthus13> Unit193: you broke teh intarwebz.
[20:46] <Unit193> canthus13: I'll blame that on my sister...
[20:47] <Unit193> Cheri703: sweet! do you know where the person is from? (not a replay to the list)
[20:48] <Cheri703> no idea, I'm assuming our area
[20:48] <Cheri703> I'm going to look him up on lp in a bit