[02:44] <chibihogoshino> ey
[02:59] <vychune> o/
[03:29] <wrst> netsplits.....
[03:30] <cyberanger> yeah not sure why
[03:33] <wrst> oh well going to go and update natty
[14:01] <Xpistos> Morening All
[14:01] <Xpistos> hey wrst
[14:27] <wrst> hey Xpistos
[20:12] <wrst> http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/02/24/banshee-in-natty-to-ship-multiple-stores-and-contribute-to-gnome-foundation/
[20:14] <Mighty_Penguin> wrst, I'm glad canonical rethought about that
[20:14] <wrst> yeah chris4585 seemed to really hack a lot of people off, really i don't care so much, but i understand why they were getting blasted
[20:15] <chris4585> yep exactly, I don't care about banshee all that much at all but its the principles behind it
[20:15] <wrst> i prefer rhythmbox actually to banshee i'm not for sure why the change?
[20:16]  * cyberanger1 missed something here
[20:19] <wrst> cyberanger1: there was some squabble about revenue from the amazon store ubuntu wanted a share instead of giving it to GNOME, or i think that is a fair representation chris4585?
[20:20] <cyberanger> hrm, couldn't they split that share
[20:21] <cyberanger> as it is, neither are getting a share from me, banshee isn't installed, vlc is
[20:22] <cyberanger> and I'm more likely to buy an album on cd than mp3
[20:22] <chris4585> cyberanger, well they are splitting the share now between the both stores
[20:23] <chris4585> wrst, personally no music player will ever be better than quad libet in my eyes, so I'll uninstall banshee just like I always did rhythmbox
[20:24] <chris4585> this is the old deal http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/banshee-to-ship-with-ubuntu-music-store-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[20:25] <wrst> i do care a lot about music players chris4585 as long as they pick up my files and play them i dont use them to the extent a lot of folks do
[20:26] <cyberanger> ah, and that explains how it slipped under my radar
[20:26] <cyberanger> wrst: you and I have some similarities there
[20:27] <cyberanger> I use mine alot, but I just place files in a folder structure, ~/Media/Music/<artist>/<album>/
[20:27] <cyberanger> and then I can point any player there
[20:35]  * cyberanger considers getting some of the bots out of here, esp if this keeps up
[20:48] <cyberanger> and I play cd's and casettes still (didn't grow up with 8-track or vynl, dunno if I missed something great there or not)
[20:48] <wrst> vlc is wonderful it will play media files that my toaster formatted
[20:48] <wrst> casettes??? wow
[20:48] <cyberanger> so I might just by odd
[20:48] <wrst> old school
[20:49] <cyberanger> wrst: funny thing is, that's actually true
[20:49] <wrst> :)
[20:50] <cyberanger> in how durable vlc is
[20:50] <wrst> i love vlc, people that don't know about it can't beleive it when you show it to them
[20:50] <cyberanger> don't have many cassetes, never really did, by the time I could afford cassetes, cd's dropped too
[20:52] <cyberanger> I remember when Eminem came on the scene, all this parental advisory came out, they didn't like the language either, and I aready the offspring's americana album
[20:54] <cyberanger> they bought it for me four years earlier, predated the parental advisory system, schools ignored cassetes, I owned a mini disc player, cd player and cassete player, and nobody scolded me for the cassete player
[20:54] <cyberanger> there is benifits in old school
[20:56] <cyberanger> it was actually funny, one day in school, my friends saw the cassette case (and why not, I had no clue at the time, had the tape for years now) and they saw what I overlooked
[21:00] <cyberanger> I had brought in a tape for show and tell later even though I allways had it, and also brought in the minidisc player (the thing cost more than a playstation one then, probally the most expensive thing I owned at that moment) as everyone started talking music at lunch before show and tell in english class
[21:02] <cyberanger> I pulled out both, and to my suprise, the focused on the cassette tape, told me I could get in trouble for it, I asked why, they pulled out my cover, pointed to the lyrics in most of the songs
[21:03] <cyberanger> I didn't think much of it, till then, we all rode our buses early, I was the 2nd kid on, radio didn't censor itself till later, and they weren't great at it
[21:04] <cyberanger> I had no clue as to why I should be concerned till then
[21:05] <cyberanger> english came, I prominemtly showed off both, teacher got a close up look of both, and I proved that without a label, they were oblivious
[21:05] <cyberanger> the teacher actually ignored the cassette mostly, she grew up with them, why look at it closely
[21:06] <cyberanger> wrst: so with that story, one must love old school, so easily overlooked
[21:06] <chibihogoshino> anyone in nashville need extra cash ? http://knoxville.craigslist.org/wrg/2219148549.html
[21:06] <chibihogoshino> oh .. wrong link
[21:06] <chibihogoshino> http://knoxville.craigslist.org/sad/2232566096.html
[21:06] <chibihogoshino> got them mixed up
[21:06] <cyberanger> and may that story help anyone with kids and the hacker spirit ;-)
[21:07] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: not nashville, rats
[21:07] <chibihogoshino> its for knoxville not nashville
[21:07] <chibihogoshino> the second link it the right one
[21:07]  * cyberanger is suprised some guy on craigslist is offering cash
[21:08] <chibihogoshino> heh
[21:08] <cyberanger> ah, linux knowledge, odd enough
[21:08] <cyberanger> asking on craigslist, odder
[21:10] <chibihogoshino> it is a place geeks hang out on the net ..
[21:13] <cyberanger> heh, I missed the memo, I guess http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/offbeat/022411-parent-offers-body-parts-craiglist-ncx http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/UPDATE-Man-chased-by-Craigslist-sellers-with-a/Z6AB0dVQqEOQbB13emrZWQ.cspx http://www.khou.com/news/local/116715974.html http://www.whiotv.com/news/26984128/detail.html
[21:13] <cyberanger> stuff like that crossed my radar too fast
[21:14] <cyberanger> wouldn't hurt to contact them, erring on caution of course
[21:15] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: you not qualify?
[21:15] <chibihogoshino> im no expert
[21:21] <cyberanger> ah, what do you lack?
[21:22] <chibihogoshino> everything ..
[21:23] <chibihogoshino> thats kinda hard to say when you cant quantify the amount of knowledge required to be a expert in something
[21:25] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: most in IT nowadays just dabble
[21:25] <cyberanger> anyone that knows they cannot be an expert, due to volume and constantly changing material
[21:26] <cyberanger> pretty much is the expert
[21:26] <chibihogoshino> i haven't done it in 10 years
[21:26] <chibihogoshino> er IT
[21:26] <cyberanger> sorta a catch-22
[21:28] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[21:37] <chibihogoshino> ooo kernel update .. yay
[21:38] <cyberanger> lol
[23:58] <orias> anyone good with iptables?