[01:47] <stas> ping newz2000
[01:47] <newz2000> hey stas
[01:47] <stas> hey, got a minute?
[01:47] <newz2000> sure
[01:47] <stas> 1st i found a bug: http://i.imgur.com/1OESj.png
[01:48] <stas> wiki doesn't accept diacritics when logging in
[01:48] <newz2000> ooh, interesting
[01:48] <stas> should i file a bug?
[01:48] <newz2000> yeah, can you put it ...
[01:49] <stas> its caused by my name
[01:49] <stas> Stas Sușcov
[01:49] <newz2000> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-isd-web and tag light-wiki?
[01:49] <stas> ok thanks
[01:49] <newz2000> I'm not sure where it will end up, but that's where I'm putting wiki bugs currently\
[01:49] <stas> secondly, may i query you :)
[01:49] <newz2000> you may ;-)
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[14:54] <cjohnston> thanks newz2000
[14:54] <newz2000> my pleasure
[16:03] <knome> cjohnston, you are leading the wiki efforts?
[16:08] <cjohnston> the redesign?
[16:19] <knome> well, anything related to wiki
[16:36] <newz2000> As my dad always said, "lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way."
[16:37] <newz2000> Regarding the wiki theme, I'd say everyone so far falls into the "follow" or "get the hell out of the way" categories
[16:37] <knome> well anyway
[16:37] <knome> 1:
[16:37] <newz2000> :-)
[16:37] <knome> the wiki is slow, FIX IT
[16:37] <knome> 2:
[16:37] <knome> would you allow an own theme for xubuntu, for example in wiki.xubuntu.org (much like kubuntu)
[16:38] <newz2000> there is discussion and in theory some work on getting the wiki migrated to 1.9 which should help with the performance and the errors people see
[16:39] <newz2000> regarding xubuntu theme, I don't feel strongly that it is a necessity, similarly I'm not convinced kubuntu should be done as it is
[16:39] <newz2000> having two domains that look diff  but point to the same content causes probs
[16:40] <knome> yeah, exactly what i guessed.
[16:40] <knome> then you have only one option.
[16:40] <knome> make the wiki so snappy it is usable.
[16:40] <newz2000> you make it sound so easy. ;-)
[16:41] <knome> yeah, i know!
[16:43] <knome> what does 'work in theory' mean when we're talking about the wiki migration?
[16:43] <knome> "never happens" or "happens in 2013" ?
[16:43] <knome> no really, sorry if i'm offensive, but the wiki has been useless to xubuntu for all the 3 years i've been working with xubuntu.
[16:44] <knome> this needs to change, or we need an own wiki.
[16:46] <knome> i wonder how the slowness of the wiki has been overlooked so long that the situation is what it is now
[17:03] <Ronnie> is it already clear, in what extend the loco.ubuntu.com and websites from local communities, may (and may not) follow these guidelines http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/guides-for-websites/
[17:07] <knome> newz2000, are you the right person to ask for our options (if there are any apart from sticking with the ubuntu wiki, or somebody else?)
[17:08] <newz2000> knome: someone in the xubuntu community is going ot have to push for a change if they want it.
[17:08] <newz2000> I might be able to help more if I knew what the goal was
[17:08] <knome> goal is to get a more responsive wiki, really.
[17:09] <newz2000> oh, that
[17:09] <newz2000> AlanBell has an RT open and I've heard the community council is discussing it
[17:10] <AlanBell> they did ask, wonder if they got an answer . . .
[17:10] <knome> answer for what? getting the wiki updated?
[17:11] <knome> really, the wiki is *a joke*
[17:11] <knome> and i definitely can see why the people behind it do not want to answer to anything...
[17:11] <knome> :P
[17:16] <AlanBell> knome: yes
[17:16] <knome> AlanBell, okay, do you have any other information on the issue?
[18:07] <cjohnston> stas: ping
[21:30] <AlanBell> knome: the IS team should have been working on upgrading the canonical wiki this week, and in theory they might announce some downtime on the main wiki for the upgrade in the next week or two.
[21:30] <AlanBell> believe it when you see it
[22:15] <cjohnston> stas: any chance your around? need some assistance with bug 716726
[22:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 716726 in ubuntu-website "right navigation arrow on uds.ubuntu.com slideshow cut off (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/716726
[23:22] <stas> cjohnston: did you try setting a fixed width to class="slider" element?
[23:35] <stas> cjohnston: or, could you create a temporary account for me so i can fix things around?
[23:36] <stas> if that is not too much