| TheMuso | Anybody around? I have a quick question. THere is new upstrae code in Debian's git for ardour, but it hasn't yet been uploaded to Debian. Should I grab it and upload it? Only have a short while till feature freeze. | 00:42 |
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| holstein | TheMuso: whats the #? | 00:42 |
| holstein | i cant imagine why not | 00:42 |
| holstein | ardour is stable | 00:42 |
| TheMuso | holstein: The # of what? | 00:42 |
| holstein | IF it doesnt break anything else | 00:42 |
| holstein | or need anything else | 00:42 |
| holstein | TheMuso: i was wondering if you could see the verion | 00:43 |
| holstein | easily | 00:43 |
| holstein | ScottL: ping ^^ | 00:43 |
| TheMuso | The version of what? | 00:43 |
| holstein | ardour? | 00:43 |
| holstein | is it a rev? | 00:43 |
| holstein | or just fixes? | 00:44 |
| TheMuso | Hrm maybe not, seems the new package is not ready according to git log. | 00:44 |
| TheMuso | Its a rev. | 00:44 |
| TheMuso | r8077. | 00:44 |
| holstein | hmmm | 00:44 |
| holstein | i guess if it aint ready | 00:45 |
| holstein | and, if it aint broke, dont fix it right? | 00:45 |
| TheMuso | yep | 00:47 |
| ScottL | hi TheMuso | 01:04 |
| TheMuso | Hey ScottL. | 01:04 |
| ScottL | do you think you will have time for one more round of changes to the seeds | 01:05 |
| ScottL | sorry to keep bothering you about it TheMuso but dvdstyler pullled in some rather unwanted packages (beyond the libavcodec business) | 01:05 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: So remove it? | 01:06 |
| ScottL | and i wanted to add zynjacku for the lv2rack package | 01:06 |
| ScottL | i have a list, let me check it quickly to make sure nothing is being forgotten | 01:06 |
| TheMuso | ok | 01:07 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, yes, that was it, i think the plan would be to add zynjacku to the audio-common seed and remove dvdstyler from video seed | 01:08 |
| TheMuso | ok will do. | 01:08 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, also, what did the merge that cjwatson propose do for ffmpeg? | 01:08 |
| TheMuso | Cleaned up ffmpeg related packages that got onto the disks. | 01:08 |
| ScottL | was it the libavcodec stuff? | 01:09 |
| TheMuso | yes | 01:09 |
| ScottL | and that you for updating the seeds again, TheMuso , unless we continue to have failed installs i don't think it will change again for natty | 01:09 |
| TheMuso | OK cool. | 01:10 |
| TheMuso | and no problem. | 01:10 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, how do you feel about me learning the rest of updating the seeds so you don't have to be bothered with this everytime? | 01:10 |
| ScottL | and did you see cjwatson's suggested about using libavcoded*-extras-* from multiverse? | 01:10 |
| TheMuso | Sure, I'll do it now as I've already started, but next time, let me know and I'll walk you through it. | 01:11 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, i've done it through germinate but i have never uploaded to the repos yet and i don't believe i have rights, even for just ubuntu studio packages | 01:11 |
| TheMuso | No I don't think you do. | 01:11 |
| ScottL | persia had told me when i felt comfortable to ask for them, and in some cases i do, like the -menu package and a few others | 01:11 |
| ScottL | but others still worry me a bit | 01:12 |
| ScottL | it's interesting about ardour though, but paul usually posts when there is a new ardour release and i haven't seen anything about it | 01:15 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 01:16 |
| ScottL | holstein, after this week i'm going to start up backporting again, are you up for working on rakarrack together? | 01:24 |
| ScottL | and maybe working on fixing the menu together as well? | 01:24 |
| ScottL | although the menu update should wait until the.muso finishes the seeds update and it propagates | 01:25 |
| holstein | ScottL: yes | 01:26 |
| holstein | i think if you're up for some hand-holding | 01:26 |
| holstein | i can learn how to be more helpful with it all in the future | 01:26 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: done | 01:29 |
| ScottL | holstein, you'll do fine :) it's actually pretty easy if there aren't dependency problems and i think i looked and most of ours shouldn't be | 01:35 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, wow, thanks :) i don't know what we would do without you | 01:35 |
| TheMuso | You'd manage/get another MOTU to help you. | 01:36 |
| holstein | nah, you're the only one TheMuso :) | 01:36 |
| holstein | ScottL: you checked out http://harmonyseq.wordpress.com/ ? | 01:37 |
| holstein | very cool | 01:37 |
| TheMuso | holstein: Well, depending on whether I get a renewed interest in studio, the plan is to eventually withdraw completely. | 01:37 |
| holstein | TheMuso: just let me know if i can do anything | 01:37 |
| holstein | to help keep you interested | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | holstein: sure | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | heh ok | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | Its just a matter of having so many other things on my plate, and those things being somewhat more important to me atm. | 01:38 |
| holstein | i hear you | 01:38 |
| holstein | but, i appreciate your time helping ScottL on the backend | 01:39 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, i realize that i do use you like a crutch for such things as updating seeds, pushing patches and i've decided that i do need to expand into using other MOTU's for help | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: I don't mind, if I have the time. | 01:41 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, oh, jono mentioned you again by name in his latest Linux Format article on unity, he wields your name as a power :) | 01:42 |
| TheMuso | heh right | 01:42 |
| TheMuso | I should really track these articles down... | 01:43 |
| ScottL | "we realized we had alot of work to do for accessability on Unity, so we had Luke Y. head it up" like there, it's taken care of ;) | 01:43 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, i have membership with LXF and have access to the pdf's, i'll send then to you sometime | 01:44 |
| TheMuso | ah ok, no its fine | 01:44 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, it's no problem really, i have both of the magazines in the loo right now so i know which number they are, it won't take any effort really to get it from the website | 01:53 |
| ScottL | holstein, harmonySEQ looks quite nice actually for live music, better than seq24 really | 01:54 |
| holstein | thats what im thinking | 01:54 |
| holstein | i was saying, i really havent figured out seq24 | 01:54 |
| holstein | and there is a button | 01:55 |
| holstein | the one with the hammer i think? | 01:55 |
| holstein | when i click that | 01:55 |
| holstein | bad things happen | 01:55 |
| holstein | and, i dont really know how to use it | 01:55 |
| holstein | i spent about 4 minutes with Hseq | 01:55 |
| holstein | and had something resembling music | 01:55 |
| ScottL | holstein, i followed [lsd]'s (i wish he wouldn't use the brackets, they're hard to type) tutorial, it was like *magic* (did you see my eyes light up when i typed that?) | 02:10 |
| holstein | hehe | 02:11 |
| holstein | yeah, he is my go-to guy for most everything | 02:11 |
| holstein | all the tutorials on his site have been helpful | 02:11 |
| ailo | ScottL: ping | 02:59 |
| ailo | I hear someone in the ubuntu-artwork team was interested in working with UbuntuStudio theme. | 03:01 |
| ScottL | ailo, really? | 03:11 |
| ailo | Just slept off some beers I had earlier. It's embarrassing that I'm still not finished with the -controls. I'll do it over the next few hours. | 03:11 |
| ScottL | ailo, dick macinnis from dream studio (ubuntu studio derivative) emailed me about artwork and art director/lead | 03:11 |
| ScottL | i should blog about looking for an art director/lead tomorrow as well (i should have done it tuesday but was ill) | 03:12 |
| ScottL | i told dick i'd like to wait no longer than 2 weeks to make a decision after the blog post | 03:12 |
| ailo | ScottL: A guy named cozziemoto says he emailed you. Don't know if that's the same guy. | 03:12 |
| ScottL | ailo, do you konw who was interested in ubuntu-artwork? | 03:12 |
| ScottL | cozziemoto isn't the same guy, i'll check email again | 03:13 |
| ScottL | eh, can't find an email but i'll look for cozziemoto in #ubuntu-artwork and talk to him if i can | 03:15 |
| ailo | ScottL: Sorry, I meant AustinDanger | 03:15 |
| ailo | You can see some discussion about that in the logs | 03:15 |
| ailo | About -11h from now | 03:15 |
| ailo | in #ubuntu-artwork | 03:15 |
| ScottL | i think i have austin's email then :) | 03:16 |
| ScottL | i just haven't responded, probably tomorrow morning i shall answer a few emails | 03:16 |
| ScottL | tonight i want to work on the -lowlatency kernel per abogani1 's instructions | 03:16 |
| scott-upstairs | abogani1, i have some more questions for you (sorry for needing so much hand holding) | 03:31 |
| scott-upstairs | abogani1, i see three debian folders | 03:31 |
| scott-upstairs | 1) debian 2) debian.lowlatency and 3) debian.master | 03:32 |
| scott-upstairs | the /debian directory doesn't have a changelog | 03:32 |
| scott-upstairs | you told me i should be in /debian.lowlatency to udpate changelog but when i run debuild -S -sa it says it can find the debian/changelog and when i rename the folder to get around that it says there is no rules file | 03:33 |
| scott-upstairs | the /debian file has the rules file | 03:33 |
| scott-upstairs | the /debian.master has changelog but no rules files | 03:34 |
| ailo | scott-upstairs: There's some symbolic links in the debian.lowlatency folders. Aren't they going to the right places? | 03:34 |
| scott-upstairs | i would presume that i can rename the /debian.lowlatency to /debian (after renaming the /debian directory) and copy the rules file from the renamed /debian folder | 03:34 |
| scott-upstairs | ailo, i didn't see any symbolic links in nautilus :( | 03:35 |
| scott-upstairs | i suppose it would help me if i knew the purposes of all the different folders and what is tried to be accomplished | 03:36 |
| ailo | scott-upstairs: In debian.lowlatency, changelog.generic points to the changelog in debian.master for example | 03:36 |
| scott-upstairs | i.e. "i started with the debian folder and kept it as record but updated the .lowlatency folder from it, that's the run we will run everything from, yadda, yadda" | 03:37 |
| * scott-upstairs realizes that sounds whiny | 03:37 | |
| scott-upstairs | hmmm, i don't have changelog.generic ailo in my debian.lowlatency folder | 03:37 |
| scott-upstairs | i have changelog.historical | 03:38 |
| scott-upstairs | but it's an actual text file, not a symlink | 03:38 |
| ailo | scott-upstairs: Might be that the source has changed. But those files that are not specific to -lowlatency are just links | 03:38 |
| scott-upstairs | ailo, BUT looking back at the original folder i see them, they just didn't copy to the new directory | 03:39 |
| ailo | scott-upstairs: Maybe that's what's messing it up then? | 03:39 |
| scott-upstairs | ailo, it would appear so :P | 03:39 |
| scott-upstairs | okay, i now have the symlinks in there but debuild still says it can't find a "readable debian/changelog anywhere" | 03:41 |
| scott-upstairs | i tried "debuild debian.lowlatency/changelog -S -sa" but it didn't work still | 03:42 |
| ailo | scott-upstairs: Sure the source is clean? Maybe better to start from the beginning? | 03:42 |
| scott-upstairs | ailo, well, the source doesn't have a changelog or a symlink for changelog under the /debian directory | 03:43 |
| scott-upstairs | but debian.lowlatency does have a changelog AND the symlink chagnelog.generic to the debian.master directory :/ | 03:44 |
| scott-upstairs | it's all rube goldberg to me | 03:44 |
| scott-upstairs | ailo, did it work really easy for you? | 03:45 |
| * scott-upstairs is beginning to get a complex :P | 03:45 | |
| ailo | scott-upstairs: Building the kernel? I haven't tried building this kernel. Just looked at the configs to see what I needed for a Debian Squeeze kernel, when I build that. | 03:46 |
| ailo | built* that | 03:46 |
| scott-upstairs | okay, i feel a little better LOL | 03:47 |
| ailo | Don't know how to set up the custom flavor folder. Just added the configs into the main folder, which is a bit easier I guess | 03:47 |
| ailo | scott-upstairs, I'm thinking there should be something useful to read about that in the wiki, but the pages I've visited are all a bit outdated. Still, they may provide some info. I'm sure it's not as hard as it seems after knowing some more about it. | 03:50 |
| scott-upstairs | ailo, i think i'm close, it's probably just a step that abogani1 forgot to tell me or that i'm too ignorant to realize myself (this is why i like to understand more about the process's goals) | 03:51 |
| scott-upstairs | ailo, email away to austin :) | 03:57 |
| ailo | paultag: Are you a python re wizard? | 04:33 |
| paultag | ailo: humm? | 04:45 |
| paultag | ailo: regexps? | 04:45 |
| paultag | I know my way around a regex, but i'm not fantastic | 04:45 |
| paultag | why? | 04:45 |
| ailo | paultag: I'm trying to create search patterns to find if user is in audio group and what value memlock is set at, but I'm learning really slowly how to do that | 04:46 |
| paultag | ahhha | 04:46 |
| paultag | ailo: which file is that again? | 04:47 |
| ailo | memlock string to look for is "@audio - memlock unlimited" in /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf | 04:47 |
| ailo | "unlimited" can either be a number, or unlimited | 04:48 |
| paultag | ailo: are those tabs or any number of spaces? | 04:48 |
| ailo | Just white space. I guess re can use \s for that | 04:49 |
| paultag | ailo: it'll be simple if you break this up a bit -- see if you can find the @audio line, then run two regexps against it to get each value. That's actually super simple :) | 04:49 |
| paultag | ailo: aye! It'd be \s* | 04:49 |
| paultag | space, one --> sideways 8 | 04:49 |
| ailo | I just want the value, so either "unlimited" or the number if it's a number | 04:49 |
| ailo | I can get the string now, but don't know how to get just the value | 04:50 |
| paultag | ailo: so you know it's going to be \w*, then a \s*, then a -, then \s*, then a \w*, then a \s*, then you want the following \w* until the ^ | 04:51 |
| paultag | sorry! $ | 04:51 |
| paultag | not ^ | 04:51 |
| ailo | ah, I think I get it. Let me try it | 04:51 |
| paultag | ailo: or, if you want to get randy, you can use \S (for non-whitespace), but let's just start off with that :) | 04:52 |
| paultag | ailo: bracket expressions will help you here :) | 04:52 |
| abogani1 | scott-upstairs: ScottL: You need of "fakeroot debian/rules clean" before "debuild -S -sa". | 07:18 |
| scott-upstairs | /bin/bash: kernel-wedge: command not found | 12:22 |
| scott-upstairs | make: *** [debian/control] Error 127 | 12:22 |
| scott-upstairs | abogani, ^^^ | 12:22 |
| scott-upstairs | when i ran "fakeroot debian/rules clean" | 12:22 |
| scott-upstairs | i suppose i need to install "kernel-wedge" :P | 12:23 |
| scott-upstairs | installed kernel-wedge, reran "fakeroot debian/rules clean" and "debuild -S -sa" and all seems to have worked, dput'ing to my ppa now | 12:25 |
| abogani | scott-upstairs: Good job! :) | 12:27 |
| ScottL | eh, i forgot to remove "ubuntu1" in the changelog and launchpad rejected it becuase i was trying to a do a "release" pocket (or whatever the note said) | 13:01 |
| ScottL | then i removed the "ubuntu1" and then rebuilt, tried to upload and it said it wasn't a changes file :/ | 13:01 |
| ScottL | but it looked like it uploaded, don't know | 13:02 |
| ScottL | i'll probably just start over at the "cp -a debian*" tonight after i purge a few things | 13:03 |
| abogani | ScottL: Do you have executed "fakeroot ..." again? | 13:11 |
| ScottL | abogani, yes, i believe i did | 13:12 |
| AutoStatic | It might be useful to use pbuilder(-dist), that will save you from dputs being rejected | 13:14 |
| scott-upstairs | it's still giving me "Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a series in the 'SUPPORTED' state." in the rejected email from launchpad | 13:14 |
| abogani | scott-upstairs: Forward me the email. | 13:20 |
| scott-upstairs | sent to gmail account abogani | 13:21 |
| scott-upstairs | i think the last time i saw this kind of email it was because i just typed "dput foo.changes" and didn't put my ppa, but I'm doing it this time :P | 13:22 |
| scott-upstairs | Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com): | 13:22 |
| scott-upstairs | Uploading linux-lowlatency_2.6.38-3.30.dsc: done. | 13:22 |
| scott-upstairs | Uploading linux-lowlatency_2.6.38-3.30.tar.gz: done. | 13:22 |
| scott-upstairs | Uploading linux-lowlatency_2.6.38-3.30_source.changes: done. | 13:22 |
| scott-upstairs | Successfully uploaded packages. | 13:22 |
| scott-upstairs | Not a .changes file. | 13:23 |
| scott-upstairs | Please select a .changes file to upload. | 13:23 |
| scott-upstairs | Tried to upload: ppa:slavender/broken | 13:23 |
| scott-upstairs | scott@lucid-studio:~/build/kernel$ | 13:23 |
| scott-upstairs | okay, i need to get daughter to bus stop and go to work, i'll check back in later tonight | 13:23 |
| scott-upstairs | thanks for your help abogani | 13:23 |
| abogani | scott-upstairs: Please let me know your dput command line. | 13:32 |
| scott-upstairs | scott@lucid-studio:~/build/kernel$ ls | 13:35 |
| scott-upstairs | aboganis-lowlatency | 13:35 |
| scott-upstairs | aboganis-meta-lowlatency | 13:35 |
| scott-upstairs | linux-lowlatency_2.6.38-3.30.dsc | 13:35 |
| scott-upstairs | linux-lowlatency_2.6.38-3.30_source.build | 13:35 |
| scott-upstairs | linux-lowlatency_2.6.38-3.30_source.changes | 13:35 |
| scott-upstairs | linux-lowlatency_2.6.38-3.30.tar.gz | 13:35 |
| scott-upstairs | rebuild | 13:35 |
| scott-upstairs | scott@lucid-studio:~/build/kernel$ dput -f *.changes ppa:slavender/broken | 13:35 |
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| paultag | ailo: prod :) | 19:46 |
| TheMuso | Fixing the daily builds... | 20:56 |
| scott-work | TheMuso: what's wrong with the daily builds? | 20:59 |
| TheMuso | scott-work: language-selector breakage. | 21:01 |
| scott-work | TheMuso: is the part in the build log where it keeps complaining about language packs? | 21:26 |
| ailo | paultag: Hi, I'm doing the last bit of code now to make the program fully functional, though it will still need some text editing | 21:49 |
| paultag | ailo: roger! | 21:49 |
| TheMuso | scott-work: Don't know what thats about. | 22:02 |
| scott-work | TheMuso: if you are interested, around line 326 it starts a *large* list of missing language packs: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntustudio/natty/daily-20110224.log | 22:09 |
| scott-work | i've thought about looking into it but i figured there are more important things to devote time to at this time | 22:10 |
| TheMuso | hrm interesting, will take a look later if I have time. | 22:10 |
| scott-work | oh, language, gimp and aspell packs | 22:10 |
| TheMuso | ah ok. | 22:14 |
| ailo | paultag: I know I must be braindead to thing the feature freeze was the 28th, but how is the situation for this app now? | 22:37 |
| ailo | There's still some work to be done | 22:37 |
| ailo | I just got the functionality going | 22:37 |
| paultag | ailo: if it can be done I can roll it and ready to upload. worst comes to worst we declare a critical bug against ubuntu studio that the upload closes | 22:40 |
| ailo | paultag: You can pull the app if you want | 22:42 |
| ailo | paultag: Some basic things I don't still know about. The app only starts from the terminal. What is missing? | 22:43 |
| paultag | ailo: why can't it start from GNOME? | 22:45 |
| ailo | paultag: Don't know. If I double click the main python file, it won't start. | 22:46 |
| paultag | oh damn, that error again | 22:46 |
| paultag | damn, I'm outdated | 22:46 |
| paultag | ailo: I can't run it on 10.10 | 22:46 |
| paultag | which is OK | 22:46 |
| paultag | as long as it runs on 11.04 | 22:46 |
| paultag | ailo: it needs to find the glade file, I would guess | 22:47 |
| ailo | Full path then.. | 22:47 |
| paultag | ailo: have you tried making a setup.py for it? | 22:47 |
| paultag | ailo: I mean to double-click it | 22:47 |
| ailo | No, haven't learned about that | 22:47 |
| paultag | ailo: I have a template setup.py you can use | 22:47 |
| paultag | ailo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lococouncil/locolint/trunk/view/head:/setup.py | 22:48 |
| ailo | paultag: I guess it would be easier to use the setup.py that comes with the original version | 22:54 |
| paultag | ailo: haha aye | 22:55 |
| ailo | paultag: Ok, the setup.py makes the app usable, though it won't install all the files | 23:04 |
| ailo | I guess the debian package should take care of the rest | 23:04 |
| ailo | paultag: Actually, the setup.py creates a folder in the folder where I run "sudo python setup.py install" | 23:07 |
| paultag | :) | 23:07 |
| ailo | paultag: I'm adding the original source + a folder with my app setup in the same way. Maybe you can take a look, hold on | 23:08 |
| paultag | ailo: of course | 23:08 |
| ailo | paultag: Ok. Those should be all the files. So, all of the files except "ubuntustudio-controls" and "meminfo_total" should end up in /usr/share/ubuntustudio-controls/ | 23:12 |
| paultag | ailo: you can just add it to the .install :) | 23:13 |
| ailo | paultag: The Debian .install, you mean? | 23:14 |
| paultag | ailo: aye | 23:15 |
| paultag | ailo: unless you want to put it in setup.py, which is the "right" way to do it | 23:15 |
| ailo | paultag: So, the current setup.py is not functional? | 23:15 |
| paultag | ailo: I've not looked at it | 23:15 |
| paultag | ailo: but try doing a sudo setup.py install | 23:16 |
| paultag | ailo: and if it installs, then you're OK, if it fails, then it's failed :) | 23:16 |
| ailo | paultag: I tried that, but it would only install the program files, not the resources | 23:16 |
| ailo | paultag: I'll edit the Debian package and try that | 23:17 |
| paultag | ailo: so, no, it's not functional totally | 23:17 |
| paultag | ailo: but yeah the deb package can compensate | 23:17 |
| ailo | paultag: http://paste.ubuntu.com/571965/ | 23:44 |
| ailo | paultag: I haven't changed anything about that file to my knowledge | 23:45 |
| paultag | ailo: because you have a prefix in debian/ | 23:45 |
| paultag | oh wait | 23:45 |
| paultag | nvmd | 23:45 |
| paultag | ailo: push the branch up and I'll pull it, if you'd like | 23:45 |
| ailo | paultag: It's including the files after trying to build the package. I've updated some files, the changelog, for instance. But, I wouldn't know if I missed something | 23:47 |
| ailo | paultag: But the package got built | 23:48 |
| ailo | paultag: Ok | 23:49 |
| ailo | paultag: git crashed, took me some time | 23:50 |
| ailo | paultag: No package, but a tar file, as you will see | 23:50 |
| ailo | paultag: Ok, so that's the source file. Great. | 23:51 |
| paultag | righto | 23:53 |
| ailo | paultag: The meminfo_total.py ends up in */python2.7/* instead of 2.6 | 23:55 |
| ailo | Which I guess it should | 23:55 |
| ailo | paultag: Which version of Glade worked for you? | 23:59 |
| paultag | ailo: none, sadly. There was a function that you actually needed 2.24 for | 23:59 |
| paultag | ailo: your versioning is fine right now :) | 23:59 |
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