| bc81 | hey guys, can i get a MIDI keyboard recommendation? got my eye on this http://tinyurl.com/46ehbvh but the cheaper and smaller, the better (i'll only be using it occasionally, and only for hobby related stuff. | 00:15 |
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| holstein | bc81: hey | 00:15 |
| * holstein looking | 00:15 | |
| bc81 | hi holstein :) | 00:16 |
| holstein | i have an mauiod | 00:16 |
| holstein | maudio* | 00:16 |
| holstein | keyrig or whatever | 00:16 |
| holstein | keystation? | 00:16 |
| holstein | something just a bit bigger than that | 00:16 |
| holstein | personally, i say | 00:17 |
| holstein | IF you're going to use this as an instrument | 00:17 |
| holstein | not a lead synth type thing | 00:17 |
| holstein | i think its worth the extra $$ to get something with 60+ keys | 00:17 |
| holstein | really depends on the use | 00:17 |
| holstein | even a hobby on a tiny keyboard | 00:18 |
| holstein | can be such a drag you wont have any fun :/ | 00:18 |
| holstein | *potentially | 00:18 |
| bc81 | yea, i was trying to avoid going all out (i'm a guitar guy, can't play keys at all really) | 00:18 |
| holstein | and, its not *that* much more | 00:18 |
| bc81 | basically, i'll be using it to input notes into milkytracker | 00:18 |
| holstein | $$ | 00:18 |
| holstein | that'll probably be fine then | 00:18 |
| bc81 | well, i was shooting for the 20-40 USD range...what about those roll-out type keyboards/? | 00:19 |
| holstein | i think they are crap | 00:19 |
| holstein | BUT portable | 00:19 |
| bc81 | or do they even make those piano-style | 00:19 |
| holstein | and maybe just the thing for you | 00:19 |
| holstein | since 'feel' is really not an issue | 00:19 |
| holstein | bc81: i have seen one | 00:20 |
| holstein | piano roll up keyboard | 00:20 |
| bc81 | ya, i mean anything would be better than typing notes on the keyboard :) | 00:20 |
| holstein | cant remember it the one i saw was MIDI capable | 00:20 |
| holstein | bc81: you say that, but | 00:20 |
| holstein | i prefer qwerty | 00:20 |
| bc81 | heh | 00:20 |
| holstein | to something that just feels like ass | 00:20 |
| bc81 | yea..i know what you mean | 00:21 |
| holstein | bc81: im not sure how the support is for that ekeys37 | 00:21 |
| holstein | mine is out-of-the-box | 00:21 |
| bc81 | as long as it's USB compatible | 00:21 |
| bc81 | i don't want to have to buy extra hardware | 00:22 |
| holstein | http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52452 | 00:22 |
| holstein | if its not 'velocity sensitive' | 00:22 |
| holstein | then you might as well use qwerty | 00:22 |
| holstein | in my opinion | 00:22 |
| holstein | It seems robust enough, fits in a standard laptop rucksack, and the key action is pretty good considering. I can play fast key runs; with a rhodes dialled up, it can sound quite professional, even thought there's no touch sensitivity. | 00:23 |
| holstein | i say, you can get SO much more | 00:23 |
| holstein | for like 30 or 40 bucks more | 00:23 |
| holstein | BUT, it is small-ish | 00:23 |
| holstein | bc81: korg nano control no good? | 00:24 |
| holstein | or whatever its called | 00:24 |
| holstein | i've heard good things about that | 00:24 |
| holstein | its small | 00:24 |
| bc81 | looks a little odd, don't think i'd have much use for it | 00:24 |
| holstein | yeah? | 00:25 |
| holstein | id give it 2 stars over the maudio | 00:25 |
| holstein | at least | 00:25 |
| bc81 | huh, i'll bookmark it then, the price is reasonable | 00:25 |
| holstein | read around a bit | 00:26 |
| holstein | OH | 00:26 |
| holstein | and check in #opensourcemusicians if you want | 00:26 |
| holstein | more MIDI folk over there | 00:26 |
| holstein | im looking for either a stage piano with USB | 00:26 |
| holstein | or a nice weighted controller | 00:26 |
| holstein | unless i find a nice actual piano | 00:26 |
| holstein | that i can get delivered resonalby | 00:27 |
| holstein | i have an old yamaha electric grand | 00:27 |
| holstein | with is kinda like an electric guitar | 00:27 |
| holstein | but a piano ;) | 00:27 |
| bc81 | nice! you sound like a serious pianist xD | 00:27 |
| holstein | nah | 00:27 |
| * bc81 CAN BARELY PLAY CHOPSTICKS | 00:27 | |
| holstein | im a bass player | 00:27 |
| holstein | but i play piano a lot | 00:27 |
| holstein | and need one here | 00:27 |
| holstein | for sessions or whatever | 00:28 |
| bc81 | cool.. bass is fun, i can play a little bit | 00:28 |
| holstein | i play upright | 00:28 |
| bc81 | oh wow, you a claypool fan? | 00:29 |
| holstein | yeah | 00:29 |
| holstein | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RnThpo0Atk#t=2m50s | 00:30 |
| PipeManMusic | holstein: That's a kick ass video. | 02:23 |
| holstein | PipeManMusic: i thought i had made you watch that before ;) | 02:23 |
| holstein | thats my friend keith davis on piano | 02:24 |
| holstein | and one of his tunes | 02:24 |
| PipeManMusic | Very cool. | 02:24 |
| holstein | i forget what its called... | 02:24 |
| holstein | maybe 'new beginnings' | 02:24 |
| PipeManMusic | You are a skinny bastard. | 02:24 |
| holstein | hehe | 02:25 |
| holstein | PipeManMusic: thanks for checking it out :) | 02:25 |
| PipeManMusic | I make a lot of funny faces when I play too. | 02:25 |
| PipeManMusic | ;) | 02:25 |
| PipeManMusic | holstein: You are one hell of a player my friend. | 02:25 |
| holstein | PipeManMusic: thanks | 02:26 |
| * PipeManMusic feels lucky to know Mike. | 02:26 | |
| holstein | i do what i can | 02:26 |
| holstein | PipeManMusic: likewise :) | 02:26 |
| * PipeManMusic needs to do some playing. | 02:26 | |
| PipeManMusic | I'm feeling musically pent up. | 02:26 |
| holstein | i was going to go to a jam tonite | 02:26 |
| holstein | but im SO busy tomorrow | 02:26 |
| holstein | i blew it off | 02:26 |
| PipeManMusic | Yeah. | 02:26 |
| PipeManMusic | It happens | 02:26 |
| holstein | i went last week too | 02:27 |
| holstein | and the club was closed | 02:27 |
| PipeManMusic | I might try doing a video stream concert on Friday. | 02:27 |
| holstein | PipeManMusic: DOOD | 02:27 |
| holstein | do it | 02:27 |
| holstein | PipeManMusic: ustream? | 02:27 |
| PipeManMusic | Probably. | 02:27 |
| holstein | get it archived | 02:27 |
| PipeManMusic | I don't know if I can feed jack into it. | 02:27 |
| holstein | im working friday | 02:27 |
| holstein | PipeManMusic: you can with the bridge right? | 02:28 |
| PipeManMusic | Cool. | 02:28 |
| PipeManMusic | I'm not sure if you can put it into flash. | 02:28 |
| holstein | hmmm | 02:28 |
| PipeManMusic | or if it's just out. | 02:28 |
| PipeManMusic | I've never tried. | 02:28 |
| holstein | yeah | 02:28 |
| holstein | tricky | 02:28 |
| PipeManMusic | Nope it's just out. | 02:31 |
| PipeManMusic | I'll have to use pulse-jack | 02:31 |
| doodie | does U.Std. have a different kernel? | 08:34 |
| ailo | doodie: Some releases of UbuntuStudio comes with a realtime kernel. | 08:49 |
| ailo | But the generic kernel is the same | 08:50 |
| ailo | All of the packages are in the same repo. Ubuntu's repo | 08:50 |
| doodie | ailo, ok. So, I am using ubuntu 10.04, and if I want UBUNTUSTUDIO, then I must install it just like I did Ubuntu 10? | 08:50 |
| ailo | doodie: No, you can just install the packages you want. | 08:51 |
| ailo | If you want all of the UbuntuStudio packages, you just choose all of the packages starting with ubuntustudio* | 08:52 |
| ailo | I'm not sure about what kernels there are for Lucid, though | 08:52 |
| doodie | ailo, I found it, thanks | 08:52 |
| ailo | doodie: I can see that there is a linux-rt for Lucid as well | 08:54 |
| ailo | That would be the realtime kernel. Not sure whether graphic drivers will work with that (nvidia, etc) | 08:55 |
| doodie | ailo, I am concern about music production only. | 08:55 |
| ailo | doodie: Then you might find the realtime kernel more suitable. Just make sure you also install rtirq-init | 08:56 |
| ailo | And for the audio packages, all you need is jackd and whatever software you like to use, so no need to install UbuntuStudio | 08:57 |
| ailo | If you have nvidia graphic drivers installed, make sure to uninstall those before installing the realtime kernel | 08:59 |
| ailo | (or you can do that afterwards too, of course, if you find they don't work with that kernel) | 09:00 |
| === frederickjh is now known as frederickjh_away | ||
| mlpug | Is regular new PC sufficient for producing music or are some special soundcards needed in order to output good quality sounds? | 13:37 |
| holstein | not *needed* mlpug | 13:37 |
| holstein | but helpful | 13:38 |
| holstein | really depends on what you are planning on doing | 13:38 |
| mlpug | And if I invest to some soundcard what do I get on top of basic PC capabilities | 13:38 |
| holstein | well, im assuming you have a normal card now | 13:39 |
| mlpug | holstein, I want to record some singing and trumpet etc and produce some background rhytm and chords for those | 13:39 |
| holstein | with a headphone jack sized line ine | 13:39 |
| holstein | in* | 13:39 |
| holstein | and/or mic in | 13:39 |
| holstein | ideally | 13:39 |
| holstein | you would have a pre-amp | 13:39 |
| holstein | something with an XLR microphone input | 13:40 |
| holstein | that goes right to the hard drive from there | 13:40 |
| holstein | IF you are overdubbing | 13:40 |
| holstein | then on channel like that would be plenty | 13:40 |
| holstein | IF you want to record several instuments live | 13:40 |
| holstein | you might need more channels with thta capability | 13:40 |
| holstein | and there are lots of ways to add that functionality | 13:40 |
| holstein | i have a presonus firepod | 13:41 |
| holstein | http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=3 | 13:41 |
| holstein | lots of simpler USB options too | 13:41 |
| holstein | i like the http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodid=1901 | 13:41 |
| holstein | http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=behringer+usb+audio&hl=en&prmd=ivns&biw=1024&bih=537&bav=on.1,or.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=9018756936878490849&sa=X&ei=QGBmTd3sONCltweJkqDmAw&ved=0CGQQ8wIwAw# | 13:42 |
| holstein | sorry for the ugly links | 13:42 |
| holstein | im running out the door in a minute | 13:42 |
| holstein | something like that gives you USB into the machine | 13:43 |
| holstein | and unbalanced line-in's | 13:43 |
| holstein | you can use to come from something like a mixer | 13:43 |
| holstein | with preamps | 13:43 |
| mlpug | holstein, okay, I need to run soon as well. thanks anyway. Seems like I must take some time to study this issue a bit more offline | 13:43 |
| holstein | something like http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-EURORACK-UB802-Mixer?sku=631238 | 13:44 |
| holstein | mlpug: sure | 13:44 |
| holstein | feel fre to ask anytime | 13:44 |
| holstein | and link up ideas | 13:44 |
| holstein | there are lots of options | 13:44 |
| holstein | between US $200 and $2000 | 13:45 |
| holstein | that will do what you want | 13:45 |
| holstein | with varying results | 13:45 |
| holstein | using your soundcard in your machine is a good way to get started though | 13:45 |
| mlpug | Thats reasonable investment. I am super excited about those possibilities. If I only would not have my dayjob and family... | 13:45 |
| holstein | and learn about what you need | 13:45 |
| holstein | alright... BBL | 13:46 |
| mlpug | byt. tnx! | 13:46 |
| mlpug | bye | 13:46 |
| mlpug | I guess holstein left but I must throw in another question in case somebody else knows and it is if harmonizer functionality is doable without special hardware i.e. I sing E and there is Em chord playing at the same time so it copies what I sing to G and H. In case its not Em but E then it produces G# and H instead. | 13:50 |
| AutoStatic | The Rakarrack software is able to do that | 14:02 |
| AutoStatic | It has a Harmonizer effect | 14:02 |
| === JamesHarrison` is now known as JamesHarrison | ||
| === peregrinator_six is now known as dial_up_br | ||
| holstein | hey doodie | 20:35 |
| holstein | what are you trying to do? | 20:35 |
| doodie | holstein, since Rosegarden cannot export vst sounds as wav or mp3, I need to record the sound what is playing through my speakers. In windows there was option called mono/stereo mix. | 20:37 |
| holstein | right | 20:37 |
| holstein | thats one way | 20:37 |
| holstein | the way to go is with JACK | 20:37 |
| holstein | then, you just patch RG's output to whatever | 20:37 |
| holstein | ardour | 20:37 |
| holstein | audacity? | 20:37 |
| doodie | ya ardour | 20:37 |
| holstein | JACK would be the tool | 20:38 |
| holstein | doodie: im running out | 20:38 |
| holstein | BUT | 20:38 |
| holstein | if you need more help with your project | 20:38 |
| holstein | try #opensourcemusicians | 20:38 |
| holstein | several RG users there | 20:38 |
| doodie | ok thanks laot | 20:39 |
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| === frederickjh_away is now known as frederickjh | ||
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