| JontheEchidna | MSC's now using the Ubuntu Application Rating API: http://i.imgur.com/GTXoQ.png | 01:40 |
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| JontheEchidna | Reviews will be less trivial :< | 01:40 |
| JontheEchidna | Fetching/parsing the data is quite easy with QJson, after you get past its lacklustre API docs | 01:44 |
| JontheEchidna | Technically the parse() function is documented, but it doesn't go in to detail as to what the QVariant it returns can contain. (and that can vary) | 01:45 |
| ScottK | Riddell and (if he was here) rbelem: Isn't this the new samba patch causing the FTBFS: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65100586/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-armel.kdebindings_4:4.6.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 03:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: ping | 06:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | Riddell: ping | 06:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | apachelogger: ping | 06:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 06:09 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: pong | 07:14 |
| apachelogger | uhhhw | 07:23 |
| apachelogger | wayland in natty | 07:23 |
| bambee | morning | 08:36 |
| c2tarun | why this error while creating a chroot? E: No such script: natty | 09:55 |
| yofel | c2tarun: how did you try to crate the chroot? | 10:13 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: presumably you've an old version that doesn't know about natty | 10:13 |
| Riddell | install the version from -updates or -backports | 10:13 |
| c2tarun | I linked maverick file in deboostrap/scripts folder to natty and now chroot is building :) | 10:14 |
| Riddell | that's the other way to do it | 10:15 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: what is the other way? | 10:15 |
| yofel | c2tarun: what release are you on? | 10:16 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: to install debchroot form -backports | 10:17 |
| yofel | maverick should work fine, lucid will need debootstrap from -backports | 10:17 |
| c2tarun | yofel: maverick | 10:17 |
| yofel | o.O | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | yofel: wut? we deploy the +1 configs via release now? | 10:18 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I just assumed that as there is no update for maverick | 10:18 |
| yofel | and we do know about the +1 release before release | 10:18 |
| yofel | heh, natty support was added in 1.0.24 - maverick has 23, lucid-backports 25 | 10:21 |
| Riddell | it depends on what then +1 gets announced | 10:23 |
| Riddell | sigh, so qt failed on arm and kdebindings filed in general | 10:24 |
| Riddell | agateau: should I care about any of these missing? http://paste.kde.org/5810/ | 10:40 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: did the bluedevil-git make it? | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: not yet | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | maybe Riddell has time | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | I could do it earliest in some 6 hours or so | 10:59 |
| afiestas | apachelogger: oks, thanks | 11:00 |
| Riddell | I could, it would will the time while qt compiles on arm | 11:00 |
| Riddell | afiestas: what do I need to do? | 11:00 |
| afiestas | Riddell: the idea is tu uplaod a -git package to be sure that 11.04 will have bluedevil 1.1 | 11:01 |
| Riddell | afiestas: git clone kde:bluedevil? | 11:02 |
| afiestas | Riddell: yes | 11:02 |
| Riddell | afiestas: do you know about the patch from debian to make the library private? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/bluedevil/natty/view/head:/debian/patches/01_libbluedevilaction_is_private.diff | 11:04 |
| afiestas | Riddell: nope, I don't | 11:05 |
| Riddell | presumably libbluedevilaction.so isn't expected to be developed against by third parties, so it shouldn't be directly in /usr/lib and shouldn't have headers installed | 11:07 |
| debfx | Riddell: have you tested the samba usershares with guest login? | 11:19 |
| afiestas | Riddell: well, that is what debian people say xD | 11:19 |
| debfx | it doesn't work for me, log says: stat of /var/lib/samba/usershares/test failed. Permission denied | 11:19 |
| afiestas | what I say is that third parties should be able to create BlueDevil plugins without having to download the entire source code | 11:19 |
| afiestas | for example, NetworkManagement guys, or PIM guys | 11:20 |
| afiestas | so if that patch avoid that, I don't like it | 11:20 |
| debfx | afiestas: then you need to set a proper SONAME | 11:23 |
| Riddell | afiestas: in that case it needs a versioned ABI | 11:23 |
| afiestas | I see, will fix that for 1.1, thanks :p | 11:24 |
| Riddell | debfx: I don't get that in the log /var/log/samba/log.smbd but I can't log in | 11:25 |
| debfx | Riddell: it's in /var/log/samba/log.[hostname] | 11:26 |
| Riddell | dolphin keeps asking for a password, I don't know how to make it use guest | 11:34 |
| Riddell | NCommander: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/pipermail/pyqt/2011-February/029316.html | 11:37 |
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| debfx | Riddell: my share wasn't world-readable so guest login doesn't work ... | 12:11 |
| debfx | samba really needs to learn to display helpful error messages | 12:12 |
| afiestas | yesterday I was watching a Mac Mini unboxing, when I noticed that Kubuntu installer is lacking something bluetooth-wise | 12:38 |
| Riddell | what's it lacking? | 12:39 |
| afiestas | it is lacking a way of connecting a Mouse/Keyboard without having any other input method | 12:39 |
| afiestas | basically what they do is "If you have a Bluetooth mouse, set it to connecting mode now" | 12:39 |
| afiestas | then, the application will stablish connectin with the first bluetooth mouse that appears | 12:40 |
| debfx | any ideas why the last qt version kind of breaks the qtopengl abi: bug #724867 | 12:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 724867 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "current qtopengl breaks virtualbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724867 | 12:40 |
| afiestas | and same technique with the keyboard | 12:40 |
| Riddell | debfx: I'd ask what version he had and what version he downgraded to that made it work | 12:41 |
| Riddell | afiestas: well we have three installers, the live session one runs bluedevil so any missing features there should be blamed on those bluedevil developers :) | 12:41 |
| debfx | Riddell: ubuntu10 breaks it, ubuntu9 works | 12:42 |
| afiestas | Riddell: I can write the app, but it needs to be launched by the installers | 12:42 |
| afiestas | or just before them, the workflow should be | 12:42 |
| afiestas | 1-Put the CD and click install/test | 12:43 |
| Riddell | afiestas: the standalone ubiquity installer will be missing it, it also misses network setup. there's a plan for adding network setup into ubiquity but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen this cycle | 12:43 |
| afiestas | 2- BEFORE execute anything, execute the small "Configurator helper" | 12:43 |
| afiestas | 3-The app will look if there is any mouse in the system, if not will offer a way to connect a bluetooth one | 12:43 |
| Riddell | hmm yes, can't get to the full live session without a mouse or keyboard can you | 12:43 |
| afiestas | 4-The app will look if there is any keyboard in the system, if not will offer a way to connect a bluetooth one | 12:44 |
| afiestas | 5-The rest of the system will be launch | 12:44 |
| Riddell | afiestas: sounds like just the sort of thing that needs discussed at UDS | 12:45 |
| afiestas | :p no way it can make it for 11.04 right? the app is easy to do (I can even have it for today) | 12:45 |
| Riddell | debfx: hum, I can't see why adding multitouch support would affect GL | 12:46 |
| Riddell | afiestas: well it could get a feature freeze exception if there's a good reason | 12:46 |
| afiestas | Riddell: do you think that "Be able to install with your bluetooth hardware" is a good reason? | 12:47 |
| Riddell | debfx: I wonder if it's due to building with gcc 4.4 | 12:47 |
| Riddell | I did notice a bunch of .symbol file changes which I then forgot to do anything about | 12:48 |
| Riddell | afiestas: could be yes | 12:48 |
| debfx | Riddell: but it's only built with gcc 4.4 on armel, right? | 12:48 |
| Riddell | debfx: right. so that won't be it. | 12:49 |
| debfx | Riddell: #MISSING: 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu10# _ZN10QGLContext9tryVisualERK9QGLFormati@Base 4:4.7.0~rc1 | 12:52 |
| debfx | on amd64 | 12:52 |
| afiestas | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/5815/ | 12:52 |
| afiestas | feedback? | 12:52 |
| debfx | why didn't that fail the build? | 12:52 |
| afiestas | is that an acceptable way of doing this? | 12:52 |
| Riddell | afiestas: yes I'd say so, I'm not entirely sure how to run a GUI programme before ubiquity but I'm sure we can work it out | 12:53 |
| afiestas | oks, then I'm going to start an standalone app to do this, that will depend on Qt and libbluedevil | 12:55 |
| afiestas | if needed, I can make it depend only on Qt, but only if depending on libbluedevil is a no go | 12:55 |
| Riddell | yes, depending on Qt means it can be used in ubuntu desktop for natty+1 too | 12:55 |
| Riddell | debfx: mores the question, why is it missing in the first place | 12:56 |
| afiestas | Riddell: oks, atm I'm going to use libbluedevil since it makes everything easier, for +1 we can remove it | 12:57 |
| bambee | this is probably a stupid question but since features freeze was yesterday... natty coding todolist is still valid ? | 12:58 |
| Riddell | bambee: any features will need a feature freeze exception | 13:00 |
| Riddell | bambee: the focus should be on bugfixing now | 13:00 |
| Riddell | so http://goo.gl/yGhJd is more important | 13:01 |
| Riddell | (and that's just the bugs I've bothered to tag and milestone) | 13:01 |
| bambee | Riddell: ok | 13:01 |
| Riddell | afiestas: libbluedevil should be fine too | 13:01 |
| debfx | Riddell: ubuntu10 is built with egl support | 13:06 |
| Riddell | debfx: oh? where, how, why? | 13:07 |
| debfx | something pulled in libegl1-mesa and egl is auto-detected | 13:07 |
| Riddell | sneaky something | 13:08 |
| debfx | Riddell: do you still have your cloud machine to do a testbuild with -no-egl? | 13:09 |
| Riddell | debfx: no but I can set one up easily | 13:12 |
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| Riddell | debfx: I need to test this arm fix for qt, I'll do no-egl too | 13:40 |
| Riddell | debfx: ubuntu@ec2-50-16-14-107.compute-1.amazonaws.com screen session | 13:41 |
| debfx | Riddell: ok, have you started a screen session? | 13:43 |
| Riddell | yes | 13:43 |
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| bambee | polkit-kde-agent crashes randomly on logout. Nobody saved the backtrace ? I remember it but I'm unable to reproduce the crash now... o_O | 14:44 |
| Riddell | anyone want to do the Kubuntu turn at the release meeting today? I don't think I can make it | 15:00 |
| Riddell | debfx: I'm going to go away for the weekend in a couple of hours, are you able to check that qt compile goes ok, update the .symbols files and push the packaging to bzr and get it uploaded? | 15:01 |
| debfx | Riddell: sure, can do | 15:09 |
| Riddell | debfx: which? :) | 15:14 |
| debfx | Riddell: uploading qt | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so i finally have time to finish it this weekend, i had exams all week | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | along with some other stuff | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | huh ... i suck at this game ... | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: what does one do at a release meeting? :) | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | because i'm free for the weekend | 15:19 |
| debfx | do we care about telepathy-qt4? bug #704770 is assigned to kubuntu-dev | 15:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 704770 in telepathy-qt4 (Ubuntu Natty) "build failure with ld.gold" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704770 | 15:22 |
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| * shadeslayer looks | 15:25 | |
| shadeslayer | debfx: we should care about telepathy ... since they have a nice KDE UI coming up | 15:25 |
| shadeslayer | holy mother of commits | 15:26 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/5822 | 15:27 |
| debfx | shadeslayer: telepathy-qt4 doesn't have any rdeps at the moment | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | that's what happens when you don't pull everyday | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: no, since the KDE guys haven't made a release yet :) | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: i'm willing to take this up | 15:27 |
| debfx | hm I wonder why it's in main, can't find a MIR bug | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: debian probably has it in main, maybe that's why? | 15:28 |
| * shadeslayer checks | 15:28 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: join #ubuntu-meeting in an hour and paste the update when called | 15:29 |
| Riddell | http://paste.kde.org/5823/ | 15:29 |
| debfx | aha, in maverick krdc depends on it | 15:29 |
| Riddell | yes I removed the telepathy dependency there since it wasn't being used | 15:30 |
| Riddell | the package should be moved to universe | 15:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: debian main has nothing to do with ubuntu main | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ok, should i put in a highlight for kubuntu in Quassel or will they call out my nick :P | 15:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: either a highlight or tell skeat at the start of the meeting to call you | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | oh ... right... they get put into the new queue and then someone puts it in main/universe/multiverse | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw about that MIR, i think dcmtk won't make it .... | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | so i'll mail upstream and gather their views :) | 15:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ok thanks | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 15:34 |
| c2tarun | on running schroot I am getting chroot not found, here is my schroot.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/572225/ can anyone please help | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | markey: around? | 16:15 |
| markey | yeah | 16:15 |
| markey | sup? | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | markey: you have amarok from git right> | 16:16 |
| markey | yep | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | markey: try opening this with amarok http://www.bbnradio.org/WindowsMediaDotComASXLinks/wmspanish.asx | 16:16 |
| markey | ok, in a few minutes | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | crashes for me here | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 16:16 |
| markey | listening to something here | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | sure :) | 16:16 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: asx crash is already reported in the bugtracker | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: yeah i was just going over the reports | 16:31 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265378 | 16:32 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 265378 in Streams "Amarok crash when open an asx file [ DirectoryLoader::init]" [Crash,New] | 16:32 |
| Mamarok | already confirmed since some time | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | some people in #kubuntu were asking :) | 16:34 |
| Mamarok | shadeslayer: better ask me than markey, I triage those bugs | 16:34 |
| Mamarok | also people should not ask in #kubuntu for 2.4-git versions | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | ah :D | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: er it's a bug in the release | 16:34 |
| shadeslayer | i have it too :) | 16:34 |
| Mamarok | yes, I know | 16:34 |
| Mamarok | see the bug report | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | yeah i'm going through it | 16:35 |
| Mamarok | there are a lot of bugs in 2.4.0, many already solved | 16:35 |
| Mamarok | check my saved queries for already saved bugs :) | 16:35 |
| ari-tczew | shadeslayer: give up with bug 704770 | 16:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 704770 in telepathy-qt4 (Ubuntu Natty) "build failure with ld.gold" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704770 | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | really? | 16:44 |
| ari-tczew | yes | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | any reasons? :D | 16:44 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell has uploaded new upstream release which built fine. | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 16:45 |
| ari-tczew | I closed bug. | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | i'm building ... and it's upto 65 % | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | and i was wondering why hasn't it failed yet | 16:45 |
| ari-tczew | :) | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: around? | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | no | 17:09 |
| * apachelogger starts crying meanwhile | 17:09 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: see #kde-devel | 17:09 |
| apachelogger | where is that? | 17:10 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i.imgur.com/Br4xU.png \o/ | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | reviews need a gui now | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I doubt many people will want to look at konsole for reviews :P | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | i think apachelogger is now just torturing me | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | i *still* think my code is right | 17:21 |
| * apachelogger is depressed and not in a mood to explain signals and stuff | 17:22 | |
| shadeslayer | aw.. | 17:22 |
| * shadeslayer hugs apachelogger | 17:22 | |
| shadeslayer | i don't even know what getNewStuff is doing there | 17:24 |
| afiestas | bluetooth-input-helper already detects keybaords and pointers (mouses, touchpad...), next step bluetooth pairing :p | 18:09 |
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| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: ping | 20:34 |
| Quintasan | Y NOONE AROUND WHEN INSANE STUFF OCCURS | 20:36 |
| * bambee is still around... but not a dev | 20:44 | |
| skfin | Wut. | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | oh well, maybe someone broke something | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | gotta play some games now | 20:45 |
| skfin | Quintasan: What awesome | 20:45 |
| skfin | *insane | 20:45 |
| Quintasan | cmake is doing outrageous stuff | 20:46 |
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| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: pong | 21:22 |
| JontheEchidna | I was out snowblowing our road, we received another 40 cm of snow today | 21:23 |
| Quintasan | oh | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: any idea why on earth cmake calls itself with -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PATH=/usr eventhough we set something else? http://paste.kde.org/5850 | 21:36 |
| JontheEchidna | nope :< | 21:39 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 21:39 |
| Quintasan | madness | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | pure madness | 21:43 |
| yofel | it's not like it matters anyway since later options override earlier ones | 21:43 |
| * yofel does wonder where that comes from though | 21:43 | |
| NCommander | Riddell: you got a response! | 21:47 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: ~Around now. | 22:32 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Is bindings sorted and do you still need me to do a Qt4 test build? | 22:33 |
| JontheEchidna | This is probably my biggest gripe about python: http://tinyurl.com/4ddpk8h | 23:06 |
| JontheEchidna | aside from RAM usage | 23:06 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think I'll ever use the "auto" keyword in C++0x for this very reason | 23:07 |
| JontheEchidna | say what you mean, for the sake of readability | 23:08 |
| JontheEchidna | You might be able to write things quickly with python, but all this time is wasted when you need to go back and change things | 23:09 |
| debfx | ideally an ide would tell you what type it is | 23:09 |
| JontheEchidna | [/rant] | 23:10 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't like most IDEs, their chrome seems to "get in the way" for me | 23:11 |
| JontheEchidna | MSVC is about the only one that didn't annoy me, but I only used that for academic purposes | 23:12 |
| JontheEchidna | MSVS, rather | 23:12 |
| bambee | just use emacs, you can easily customize it to do everything :P | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | My IDE is Kate + Konsole | 23:13 |
| * bambee hides | 23:13 | |
| debfx | qtcreator++ :) | 23:13 |
| bambee | qtcreator rocks too | 23:13 |
| bambee | :) | 23:13 |
| bambee | you're right | 23:13 |
| debfx | qtcreator's cmake integration is annoying though | 23:14 |
| * yofel finds VIM + Konsole sufficient for pretty much all you want to do | 23:15 | |
| yofel | debfx: why? | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | cmake integration is probably why I've not adopted Qt Creator | 23:16 |
| debfx | yofel: it pops up a dialog whenever you change a cmake file | 23:16 |
| yofel | oh | 23:16 |
| debfx | Riddell: the qt test build failed (no space left on device ...) but you have reverted the qreal cast in debian-changes-4:4.7.1-0ubuntu11 anyway | 23:22 |
| debfx | any volunteers for a qt test build? :) | 23:22 |
| ScottK | debfx: I should be able to build it. | 23:26 |
| debfx | ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/5862/ | 23:27 |
| ScottK | debfx: That's on top of what's in Natty right now? | 23:30 |
| debfx | ScottK: yes | 23:30 |
| ScottK | If you're in kubuntu-dev I can give you access to the arm boxes I have and you can do it. | 23:31 |
| debfx | okay | 23:32 |
| debfx | apachelogger: ping | 23:58 |
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