[00:05] OI [00:07] hingo_, i can't get an external monitor attatched to my laptop/tablet [00:40] hello === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [02:38] how do I make the touch screen, and pen work only for one monitor when you have an external monitor connected? [02:39] when i touch or use the pen it is acting like both screens are one === frenzy is now known as FrenzyH4 [03:15] hi [03:47] Hi [03:50] here rarely got people chat. [03:51] okay, how do I troubleshoot why knotify isn't playing sounds on Maverick [03:52] ask for kubuntu help, no body know. ask another topic not related kena scold. hehe [03:52] huh? [03:52] I tried asking in #kde and they said to ask in #kubuntu [03:53] http://img4.imageshack.us/i/forpooperscooper.png/ goood? [03:53] i made it myself [03:53] in gimp [03:53] * arrrghhh backs away slowly [03:53] Where do I find someone who knows about problems with kde that are specific to unbuntu. [03:54] Since this is obviously the wrong channel.. [03:54] s/unbuntu/ubuntu/ [03:54] pillarsdotnet: this is? [03:54] pillarsdotnet: i think what you need can set at system settings/Application and system notification [03:55] right. [03:55] I was just there. [03:55] only thing I can change is whether it uses gstreamer or xine [03:55] So I switched from one to another [03:55] Got one single "ping" on a message in a minimized window but nothing since then. [03:56] I've got both sound and popup-window notifications turned on. [03:56] windows pop up but no sounds. [03:56] sounds work otherwise. [03:56] mplayer [03:56] flash [03:56] skype [03:56] PartMyTomatoes: you should continue :) [03:56] but not events reported by knotify [03:58] pillarsdotnet: very trouble. knotify sound like 'de ren' [03:58] ah.. [03:58] found it. [03:59] I think. [03:59] mmm [03:59] my .knotifyrc had a line that said "No sound = true" [03:59] I changed it to false. [03:59] Do I have to log out of kde or can I hup knotify somehow? [04:02] pillarsdotnet: i found it! you can set at system settings/application and system notifications/manage notification/application/at even source, add sound at there [04:05] nata -- thanks. worked. [04:06] pillarsdotnet: at there can channge ring to computer speak knotify, very nice. hehe [04:07] interesting. [04:08] Now when I go back to Hardware / Multimesia / Phonon, the only output device listed is "PulseAudio Sound Server" [04:09] Before it listed my hardware devices. [04:09] and the sounds stopped again. [04:09] (sigh) [04:10] yup. [04:10] now not even the test play in the settings work. [04:10] hmm. [04:11] all sounds borken now. [04:11] reboot time? [04:11] prolly oughtta reboot kde (logout/login) [04:13] http://img198.imageshack.us/i/brokenperson.png/ NEW ART [04:15] i think you set all to default by using tab below at system settings. and change back what you change before from other. [04:15] works now, I think. [04:16] thanks. [04:20] hi [04:20] how r u [04:20] i have installed kubuntu on a new partition but lost my windows.... [04:20] any suggestions? === kashif is now known as SKAAT [04:22] ?? [04:22] ne1 therer [04:24] kashif, what you means? window's file all lost or just cannot login to windows? [04:50] http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1029/bluntbear.png === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [06:29] I installed AVG antivirus on kubuntu, but donot how to use it. where can i find installed program files to use them [06:29] ? [06:29] please help [06:29] murali, installed from where [06:30] From where did you install it, murali? [06:30] Ah [06:30] murali, and more importantly why install one at all [06:30] i downloaded it from the internet [06:30] !virus | murali [06:30] murali: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus [06:30] murali, then check the internet docs [06:31] murali, you running a mailserver with windows machines? [06:31] its a .deb file [06:31] nop [06:31] murali, then why install one [06:32] i dnt know much about linux, thot it wud b useful [06:32] do u suggest me to uninstall it? [06:32] murali, sharing lots of files/data with windows machines? [06:33] Defragmentation and antivirus hassle are not need for *nix. [06:33] i download the files from internet using kubuntu itself n place them in widows drives [06:33] murali, please answer my question [06:33] yes [06:33] murali, yes what [06:34] yes i do share files in windows machines [06:35] murali, try clamav I suppose, or check the internet docs for avast/avg or whatever 3rd party items you have installed [06:35] ok. thank you Bazhang. [06:36] murali, there really is almost no need whatsoever for antivirus in Linux/Ubuntu [06:36] whoops === omer is now known as Guest72922 [08:44] how to update to k 11.04 from k11.10? === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su === tarun is now known as Guest80564 [09:20] hii [09:20] everyone [09:23] * nlsthzn waves at Guest80564 [09:32] hey j3j5 [09:32] oops [09:32] james147 [09:32] Hey sre-su [09:32] hey sre-su :) [09:32] wassup? [09:32] good day to all [09:32] hi j3j5 [09:33] hehehe [09:33] sre-su: not much, just fighting with java:p [09:33] im using kubuntu 10.10 by the way... and I have a problem on suspend [09:34] after I suspend (closing lid) then, opening lid to turn back on, It just won;t wake up.. [09:34] by the way, Im a linux noob.. [09:35] Kubuntu rocks though.. cool icy/minty effects.. [09:35] !suspend [09:35] !kwin [09:36] zzzzzzzzzz.. ubottu just replies "sorry, I dnt know about blah blah" zzzzzzzz [09:37] does anyone here play garena HoN ???? [09:40] my screen size is set to 1024x768 when system is restarted it is back to 800x600. pls help [09:42] hi vish [09:42] vishnu: what graphics card/drivers? [09:42] ATI 4650 [09:42] sorry ATI 4350 [09:43] i have ubuntu and no problem running at 1024x768 [09:44] vishnu: i thought this is for kubuntu IRC ? [09:44] !display | vishnu [09:44] vishnu: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [09:44] hmm [09:45] hello james147, can u help me on my suspend/wake up problem pls [09:45] jhoc2x2: sorry, dont know anything about suspend problems.... [09:45] I have Compaq CQ40 laptop, installed Kubuntu 10.10 and updated to recent updates [09:45] ohh.. ok [09:46] by the way, everything works fine for me. except when I suspend (closing lid), I can't turn it back on, or after opening lid, all i see is blank monitor [09:47] finish updating now, I have to restart.. [09:47] see you later guys [09:58] help, after my laptop was updated to kernel *.*.*.25 I can't even reach log in screen [09:58] help pls anyone [09:58] !kernel [09:58] The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages [09:59] guys? [10:01] im using Kubuntu 10.10, after the recent update (I set to autoupdate everything) ... I can't reach log in screen.. [10:03] 257 users, and no reply.. zzzzzzzzz [10:05] jhoc2x2: suspend problems arent that easy to fix... it comes from a problem with the acpi spec as far as I know, makeing almost every laptop implment it slightly differently... [10:05] james147: Nvm the suspend prob [10:06] james147: I have another problem now, After I updated to the most current updates, I can't reach log in screen [10:06] * james147 droped out for a sec and missed that problem :) [10:07] jhoc2x2: do you drop to a shell? [10:07] yeah [10:07] james147: yeah.. [10:07] jhoc2x2: are you connected via cable or wifi? [10:07] james147: wifi [10:07] james147: well, I can't use wifi on a shell right? [10:07] jhoc2x2: can you get a cable connection (it makes things easier)? [10:08] jhoc2x2: you can, its just more anoying to connect [10:08] james147: uhmm.. even if connect it to cable, I don't know how to make net connection on a CLI [10:08] jhoc2x2: it should be automatic with a cable [10:09] james147: to tell u, I really am a noob about this, I don't know what to command on a CLI [10:09] (that is, assuming you are connected via a router, and not have any funky setups :) ) [10:09] jhoc2x2: via cable or wireless? [10:10] james147: sir, excuse me but, it seems you don't understand me. I know how to connect cable or wifi if I am on a GUI, but not on a CLI (shell as you call it) [10:12] james147: my problem is, after updating my system, all i get after restarting (2.6.35-25 kernel) all I see is a shell (CLI) [10:12] jhoc2x2: yes, but are you attempting to connect via wifi or cable? (cable is easier)? also, how do you normally connect? (any authentication?) [10:14] james147: im currently connected to a wifi. and seems to work fine. All im wondering is after upgrading the kernel, I get blank screen with a shell [10:14] * james147 thinks you might have some missing or broaken packages.... and a network connection would be required to fix that hence my questions [10:14] be right back.. 10 minutes... [10:32] im back.. ^_^ [10:32] I had a very nice dinner ^_^ wew [10:34] what channel that talks about kernels ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === varun_ is now known as nimbulala === nimbulala is now known as varun__ [12:56] I should preface this with, I've gone through most of the related UI's I can find, and I can confirm my BIOS has no settings for this, but anyone know how to completely stop screensaver/screen blanking? [12:57] My HDMI audio dies whenever the powersave/screen blanking happens, and I just plain want to turn the entire feature off [13:19] hellow [13:19] howdy folks [13:26] Ok, about every month I update something on my web page that I have written in OpenOffice, when I copy and paste it from OpenOffice (LibreOffice) into my web page thing, the formatting is always a mess, lines are always cut short and don't fill the area. Any ideas? [13:26] Somehow I need to clean the formatting so it is plain text before I paste it. [13:26] Use text editor [13:26] not wysiwyg editor [13:26] use for example gedit, notepad, kate [13:27] Or any simple web form will do also [13:27] like pastebin [13:27] (www.pastebin.com) [13:27] susundberg: I pasted it into kate, and it kept some of the formatting, like I tried to put a space before the first line of a paragraph and the entire paragraph indented [13:28] you can also go to the edit menu in ooo [13:28] and choose, paste special, unformatted text [13:28] then no other program need be opened [13:28] but hes trying to paste into webpage if i understood properly [13:28] well yeah sure ok, he can then re-copy that text .. [13:29] ooops, not enough coffee [13:29] I was going the other direction [13:29] :) [13:29] right going from ooo to the web page. [13:29] ahh, got it! [13:30] oh crap, I forgot, I was running a power save test, to see if I finally killed the beast - and it wasn't even a helpful interjection. What worked for you? [13:30] Kate was too technical, can kept too much detail. Saved it in OOo as a .txt file, then opened it with Kate, still some formatting, then opened it with bluefish, and waaa-laaaa worked. [13:31] ahhh nice [13:32] I don't understand enough about these 'simple' text editors like kate, bluefish etc, but they seem to retain some form of rtf editing attributes or something. [13:32] you know, I just use eclipse for everything code related [13:32] They are so multi-use that they are not longer 'simple' text editors. [13:33] there is always vi [13:33] right, but this isn't code stuff, just simple plain old text [13:33] believe me, no extras [13:33] yes, I have tinkered with vi, I prefer nano, probably should have tried that. [13:33] well I do think of html as coding related [13:33] i'd prefer nano, except i learned VI down into my fingers years ago [13:33] no, this isn't even html [13:33] on solaris - and hey they know what to do [13:33] hahahaha [13:34] a simple blog style type thing to put on my web page (drupal) so it gets pasted into their wysiwyg editor, should be straight forward [13:34] oh come on, somebody has to throw emacs out there [13:35] cross application objects are just not as smooth in the linux universe, but it's getting better all the time [13:36] anyone here have a dell precision M series? Or alternatively have experience with Nvidia Quadro chipset, intel onboard sound and HDMI? [13:39] hmmm, or another question, how does phonon pick up the alsa devices? What I have in amixer does not match phonon and all the googling I've done on config phonon shows me everything except how it gets devices themselves [13:41] microdot2012, not real sure but pulseaudio is in the mix...pardon the pun, and I have been removing pulseaudio since it was intro'd due my simpke soundcard setup [13:41] to my simple [13:42] I'm running 10.10 [13:42] which replaces pulseaudio with phonon [13:42] I ripped pulse out [13:42] microdot2012, id you have dedicated pci soundcard then pulseaudio can be a benefit [13:42] wanna bet [13:42] No it can't, lol [13:42] I use jack on my main audio box [13:43] with multiple pci cards, I mean pulse is just a layer of indirection that causes problems IMHO [13:43] pulseaudio is installed by default on 10.10 [13:43] Yes, but KDE apps uses phonon, so you can just uninstall it [13:43] which I did - and that's how I have working audio - up until a screensaver event [13:43] exactly [13:43] but I only have digital out through hdmi working [13:44] phonon deletes the analog - which I actually wouldn't care about if HDMI stayed stable [13:44] pcm coax here [13:44] but it makes me think there's something in phonon/alsa which is not linked right [13:44] my daw is all spdif [13:44] but the laptop/jukebox hdmi to reciever, put amarok on the TV so friends can 'dj' [13:45] but after 20 if I don't touch the keyboard - boom music dies, parties over until I reboot [13:45] restarting X isn't enough [13:46] it would be nice if my card passed DD thru to the HT receiver [13:46] yeah, that's a landmine and hard to spec out without testing [13:47] I also have an older m6400 [13:47] and I couldn't get audio over the hdmi [13:47] same basic specs, except older version of the intel onboard sound and nvidia 2700 instead of 2800 [13:48] that's a common problem , hdmi audio === mren|off is now known as mren [13:49] and completely disabling screen blanking is another common problem [13:49] if I could solve either I'd be a much happier man [13:50] I even setup a RHEL partition to use the dell approved drivers - and no love there at all [13:50] came back to kubuntu and setup the alsa latest build repos and wallah [13:50] strip out pulse and hdmi audio works [13:51] dunno which nvidia audio chip ..it's just MCP61 for all pci stuff , so the actual chip isn't listed using lspci [13:52] it's weird, because the sound card shows INTEL_HDA_SND [13:52] but it is going out over hdmi - many nvidia graphics cards actuallly have a sound device [13:52] pulseaudio is just another layer of useless audio porcessing IMO [13:52] so I'm not quite sure why it's working [13:53] yeah - pulse sucks - phonon seems a little easier to work with. [13:53] and jack is always there for the hardcore [13:53] but that's on my ubuntustudio machine - and that's a dedicated DAW [13:54] yeah pulse is... something that I've never gone - wow that is a helpful feature, and it's the source of many a night of debugging - especially on my wife's system76 [13:55] actually do you know if there is a pulseless option for gnome based ubuntu? [13:55] to me pulseaudio is political ,there's a dev who had some influence with canonical and was able to get his pet ptoject approved as default on jaunty , I believe [13:55] other than direct alsa [13:55] makes sense, and the idea was pretty good [13:57] well I gotta conference call, and if I don't stop typing I won't know if my latest attempt to disaable screen power down worked. cheers m8 [13:58] microdot2012, there are defenders out there , and I've been criticized for expressing my opinion about pulseaudio's default status , by a group of ppl including some ops over ay #ubuntu , but he number of pulse supporters seems to be dwindling [13:59] Yeah I am aware, and I really just don't worry about it much. [13:59] hell get into kde vs. gnome, or even the old vi vs. emacs [14:00] we can argue and still get along ;) [14:00] no point in wasting energy :)_ [14:00] and on the one machine pulse has worked well on - it stays on [14:01] pulse works on my pc , but it restricts my options to analog === ju is now known as Guest90685 === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [14:25] running kde 4.4.5 and was wondering where I would go to modify the way a drop shadow is appearing under a certain window. [14:29] right click at the top of the window in the drop down choose advanced, special window or special application settings , depending on what you want [14:29] bullium, read above [15:02] BluesKaj: what is the shadow option listed as? [15:05] sorry bullium , dunno , you may need to check system settings/application appearance , or workspace appearance, or workspace behavior === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === v1 is now known as Guest54796 [15:20] anyone updated to the new *.*.35-25 kernel ?? [15:20] !info linux [15:20] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.35.25.32 (maverick), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia all armel) [15:20] jhoc2x2, that one? ^ [15:21] bazhang: 2.6.35-25 <<< this one [15:21] jhoc2x2, from where [15:22] bazhang: zzzzz.. from the update manager.. [15:31] shane4ubuntu: probably highlight [15:31] shane4ubuntu: woops [15:31] hi [15:32] hope you can help me, i am trying to install kubuntu 10.10 for my dad on an external usb hard drive (spinny one). its for his laptop so i cant remove harddrives and i want to make sure i dont overright the mbr for the windows install. so i booted up and did manual install and everthing freezes at "formatting swap.." [15:33] it doesnt even restart [15:34] what is the pid to kill it [15:39] blabla: depends .... you could try killall ubiquity [15:40] but it probably needs some time to format swap [15:40] its been going for hours [15:42] is there any chance its going to overright the mbr? [15:42] well ... not if you specified it during the install [15:42] getting a bit scared [15:44] mmhh its frozen agian. stuck on skipping EDID probe due to cached edid [15:49] does anyone have a more detailed install tutorial than the one on "pen drive linux"? [15:50] blabla: installing should be pretty straight forward :) [15:50] hmm [15:50] blabla: Kubuntu version please [15:51] 10.10 [15:51] just downloaded it [15:51] ok ... did you check the md5sum and the install media? [15:51] mmhh [15:51] nop [15:52] blabla: ok can you do that please? so that we can rule out that the problem isn't with the install media :) [15:52] how did you download the CD btw? [15:52] bit torrent [15:53] ok then the md5sum should be fine, but better recheck it just in case [15:53] and then check your install media :) [15:56] Hi. I have a problem with dual monitors in kubuntu 10.10 Is here the right place to ask? [15:57] cancuengt: [15:57] cancuengt: yep [15:57] cancuengt: yep :) [15:57] cancuengt: which video card ? [15:58] ok, I have a Dell latitude 0830 with a docking station, and another monitor and when I log in there is always a configuration to mirror displays [15:58] VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) [15:58] hmm [15:58] cancuengt: uh, i don't get the issue ... [15:58] I have to configure manually every login to have an extended monitor [15:58] ah [15:59] well ... you need to configure xorg files to make it persistent i think [16:00] shadeslayer: Thats the problem, is a laptop, and the computer now is on the office but in my house I don't have the ds [16:01] in amarok, how do I add a streaming radio that I have the link for? [16:01] !dual [16:01] shane4ubuntu: drag and drop work? [16:01] hmm [16:02] james147: hmm, perhaps, would I drop it in a playlist and save it? [16:02] another thing. Always, the task panel goes on the vga display instead of the laptop when I move the display to the other side. And there is no way (that i vounded ) to set it on a display I choose [16:02] How do I do that? [16:03] * james147 would try dragging it to the currently playing list... then do anything else from there [16:03] hmm, doesn't like that, but I'm dragging it as text [16:05] cancuengt: are you using ati or nvidia? or what setup do you have? [16:06] shane4ubuntu: intel card [16:09] shane4ubuntu: Additional Drivers (jockey-kde I guess) says that I'm usign no propietary drivers. How do I foudn if I really have the chance to use it [16:09] (I really have no problem with that) [16:09] cancuengt: I don't know anything about intel sorry. [16:10] james147: ok, saved just the link as a m3u file, failed, changed the extension to asx, failed, changed it to asf and it is reading, but nothing is happening [16:10] cancuengt: as far as I know all intel drivers are open source.... so they are already included [16:10] i found this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-188832.html [16:11] ok [16:11] hmm not that link [16:11] http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3095351.0 << [16:11] but it's about 8.04 so i don't know if it still applies [16:11] shadeslayer: I mean that If I have to use private divers I don't mind. Any way. Any ideas on this two problems I have with dual monitors [16:11] james147: it is a link that ends in asx, any ideas? vlc can play it, but I would like it incorporated into amarok so I can just click on that and it plays. [16:12] cancuengt: nah .. intel provides free drivers for ubuntu, but you could try them out and see if they work for you [16:12] shane4ubuntu: what is the link? (never really played with internet streams) [16:12] http://www.bbnradio.org/WindowsMediaDotComASXLinks/wmspanish.asx [16:13] gotta love a link like that! WINDOWSMEDIAdOtCOM lol [16:13] shane4ubuntu: heh, crashes amarok when i click on it :p [16:14] well, I guess that is my answer [16:14] I guess I'll just use it with vlc, but I would love to be able to save it in amarok and just click to play it. === arian_ is now known as Guest24299 [16:15] hmm same here [16:15] * shadeslayer reports krash [16:20] shadeslayer: md5 is fine [16:20] blabla: install media? [16:20] ok, somewhere along the line my desktop thing has disappeared in KDE, the desktop thing that showed the contents of the desktop folder any thoughts?? [16:20] yeah [16:21] blabla: install media is fine too? [16:21] shane4ubuntu: add the folder view widget [16:22] shadeslayer: ahhh, thanks! I kept looking for desktop, never would have found that folder view. :) [16:23] np :) [16:23] shadeslayer: the md5 on the cd is actually diffrent [16:23] :) [16:23] shadeslayer: but i have burn 2 cd already :( [16:23] blabla: you used the Check install media from the boot media right? [16:24] blabla: use a pendrive? [16:27] shadeslayer: there is a md5 file on the cd and i used the md5 of the website to check it agenst. i never check a md5 before [16:27] nah that's not it ... [16:27] blabla: ok when you boot the CD, there are various options there [16:27] the first one is to boot the CD itself [16:28] the one below that is to check the install media for defects [16:28] try that === Drachenblut is now known as Lord_Drachenblut [16:32] shane4ubuntu: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265378 [16:32] KDE bug 265378 in Streams "Amarok crash when open an asx file [ DirectoryLoader::init]" [Crash,New] [16:34] shadeslayer: the cd is fine [16:34] shadeslayer: hmm, guess I just stumbled upon a bug, hope it gets squashed soon. :) [16:34] hmm [16:34] blabla: ok ... EDID is a X issue and concern's the displays iirc [16:53] when I open a file with kate, and then click on another file in kate, the first file I opened disappears, and it seems like file 2 opens over top of file 1, but I don't see tabs, or anything??? [16:54] shane4ubuntu: did you activate the tab in the settings? [16:55] shane4ubuntu: kate ot kwrite? [16:56] s/ot/or [16:56] kate [16:56] Mamarok: I don't see what you mean, in the settings, I don't see a tab option [16:56] shane4ubuntu: there is a tab "Documents" on the side of kate which lists all open documents [16:57] james147: ohh, when I click on the documents button, now I can see the options [16:57] shane4ubuntu: there are also plugins that add a tabbar as well in kates settings [16:58] james147: thanks! I didn't see that because when you click on the documents button everything is hidden, that is how mine was, I opened and closed kate probably 10 times, trying to figure that out. [16:58] I love the split view option === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su [17:14] how do i install though command line or start the install though command line [17:16] blabla: you need the alternate CD for that [17:16] Does any one know how to refresh a USB device without having to unplug it and plug it back in? [17:29] pietjephuck: you can re-mount it I guess [17:29] pietjephuck: press F5 [17:30] shadeslayer: thanks for help and putting up with my newbeness. was just wanting to see at what point it freezes in the install. [17:30] sure no problem [17:30] i have no idea so sorry :( [17:31] freeze = kernel issue [17:31] xD [17:31] Peace-: not every time [17:32] its freezing at diffrent points [17:33] tryed it quite a few times and it does shut down properly [17:33] could it be the cache? [17:35] cam [17:35] can't say [17:37] blabla, there could be a process or more using up cpu and graphics memory , if applicable ..check with system monitor [17:38] whats the command agian? [17:39] oh gdi vesion is good [17:40] gui [17:41] alt+f2, system monitor, or look in the kmenu/applications/system [17:41]