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Na_Klaris there a lubuntu-server version?00:06
MrChrisDruifNa_Klar: Not that I'm aware of, should there be?00:07
Na_KlarHm .. servers like to be lightwigthed ;-)00:07
Na_Klar*lightwighted00:08
MrChrisDruifNa_Klar: There wouldn't be a need for a LXDE server ;)00:08
MrChrisDruifServers don't have a gui afaik00:08
Na_Klarthat point of view is not very recent00:09
Na_Klarrdesktop is a powerful way to manage servesr00:09
MrChrisDruifrdesktop?00:10
Na_Klaris lubuntu just about the gui to assure lightness? .. i expected also the architecture is minimized00:10
gnewbHow do I assign macros or keysets , like Alt+Super will start program xyz, Super+T will launch program wxy and so on?00:10
MrChrisDruifgnewb: I've seen your nick before, how's it going? :)00:11
MrChrisDruifCan't help you, still on gnome00:11
gnewbMrChrisDruif: Is all good here, Thank you, how have you been?00:11
MrChrisDruifNa_Klar: Afaik the lightness is gui only00:11
MrChrisDruifgnewb: Busy.....mind wasn't functioning as normal......going through some stuff...00:12
Na_Klaroh .. shame on me ^^ .. I was too fast understanding lubuntu concept .. appearently :P00:12
MrChrisDruifNa_Klar: Afaik they didn't make some special kernel mode or something....so gui only afaik :)00:13
MrChrisDruifBut I think if you ask gilir when he's around (head dev) he can explain everything you could only want to know....and then some00:14
Na_Klarwell .. it is a pity .. one somehow should mix arch-linux with lxde xD00:14
MrChrisDruifpacman -Syyu lxde ??00:14
gnewbLubuntu uses the X11 environment it is built on the energy saving Ubuntu variant using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment.00:15
MrChrisDruifNa_Klar: Arch got some awesome documentation.....it should guide you through the process of installing lxde00:15
Na_Klaryea, i will have a look. ty so far00:16
Unit193gnewb: edit this file: ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml00:18
gnewbUnit193: Thank you.00:18
Unit193I like the xkill one :)00:19
gnewbUnit193: I keep forgetting about the Openbox conf00:20
Unit193gnewb: Tell me if you find anything fun in there ;)00:20
MrChrisDruifIsn't it ALL fun in there Unit193?00:21
gnewbUnit183: I always find fun stuff in Conky or any .conf00:21
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sealhi everyone i'm new but I have successfullt intsalled lubuntu plus xp before. I just installed same thing dual boot lubuntu 10.10 next to xp sp3 on my laptop. The problem - I cannot boot xp up again00:57
sealPlease help00:57
sealAnyone here that can help ;)01:00
Na_Klarseal, well wenn both installations are native it is more a windows problem. what error do you get?01:04
sealI do not get an erro - it just goes straith to grub menu01:04
sealbut win pro does not show up at the bottolist01:05
Na_Klarseal, that does not sound good. Check your filesystem if you can find windows at all01:05
seal@Na_Klar I found all the files and I have tried to re-install windows but this to no avail01:07
meetingologyseal: Error: "Na_Klar" is not a valid command.01:07
Na_Klarlol01:07
sealby bad01:07
Na_Klarwell, did you use different partitions for the two installations?01:08
sealits painful - I shrinked the windows partition01:08
sealactually the partitions were already there since I had a previous lubuntu there01:10
sealbut I re-installed lubuntu01:10
seali'm out01:23
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ubuntu__morning07:31
ubuntu__trying out LUBUNTU and chrome doesnt have the flash plug in...how can i install this07:32
bioterrorsudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree07:32
bioterrorsudo apt-get install lubuntu-resctricted-extras07:32
ubuntu__? sorry newbie here07:33
ubuntu__hello?07:34
bioterroropen terminal07:34
bioterrorand and put those commands in there07:34
bioterror!terminal | ubuntu__07:34
ubot5ubuntu__: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:34
ubuntu__unable to locate package...i guess i have to install it before hand...thanks...trying out the live cd07:37
bioterroroh07:38
bioterrorlivecd's are like that, so limited :D07:38
bioterroryou must do first "sudo apt-get update" to load the repositories07:38
bioterrorthen you can install those07:38
ubuntu__ohh ok....thats straight fr ubuntu right?07:38
ubuntu__thinking if i should install mint 10 or lubuntu07:39
bioterrorlubuntu07:39
bioterroryou can update it without a problems :D07:39
bioterrorI had mint and the update process if mostly "re-install!"07:40
ubuntu__yikes07:41
bioterroris mostly even07:41
ubuntu__what is ur take on moon os and ylmf...gonna try it this weekend07:44
ubuntu__sooooooooo quiet in here :)07:45
ubuntu__ill try lubuntu install this weekend too...thanks bio07:48
Unit193I don't think ylmf is updated that much, seemed kinda buggy and doesn't look as much like XP as the screens on their site07:49
ubuntu__yup...i tried the live cd ...yikes07:49
ubuntu__moon os live cd was ok...not familiar with the settings but it was ok07:49
ubuntu__like the close tab is in the left hand side...duh07:50
Unit193MoonOS I may be testing in my VM (supposed to be very lightweight)07:50
ubuntu__is there any requirement to install vm?07:50
bioterroryet another ubuntu based distro07:51
Unit193bioterror: yep, this one has E17 as one of the "Editions"07:52
bioterrorI tried it year ago or something, I wasnt that impressed07:52
Unit193As long as you're fine with betas Bodhi07:52
Unit193bioterror: Not any faster?07:53
bioterroranything can be fast if you compare to KDE or Gnome with all ding-a-lings07:53
Unit193Might be fun to crack a few mooning jokes...07:53
ubuntu__( /\ )07:54
ubuntu__any other distro that you guys recommend to try?07:56
bioterrorI think world is too full with all these remixes and derivatives07:56
bioterrorI suggest to use Lubuntu if you want something minimalistic and you want it to work right out of box07:56
Unit193ubuntu__: Are you looking for small?07:57
Unit193lightweight?07:57
ubuntu__well.....more light weight and lubuntu is very good07:57
ubuntu__just installing some repositories and running them im not familiar07:58
Unit193ubuntu__: Depending on how well you can handle config files, crunchbang07:58
bioterrorI'm running as my main computer (desktop) Arch Linux with Window Maker-CRM07:58
bioterrorUnit193, not that huge different between lubuntu and some stuff with just plain openbox07:59
bioterrorwe talk about few megs of RAM07:59
ubuntu__bout 1 gb07:59
Unit193bioterror: I like Debian/Ubuntu based, never did anything with Arch...07:59
bioterrorUnit193, I'm a *BSD-person from the deep ;)08:00
ubuntu__lol08:00
ubuntu__they just released a new version i think....bsd08:00
ubuntu__gonna check out arch too hehe08:01
bioterrordont bother if you're not familiar with command line08:01
bioterrorand distro hopping is not really helping you out that much08:02
ubuntu__true....just want to see whats going to be my new os.08:03
Unit193Running irssi in screen (and a bunch and others)08:04
ubuntu__nites....gonna try some more distro and make a final decision...ill go distro hopping till i find what i like...nothing wrong with that right bio?08:08
Unit193ubuntu__: http://www.tuxs.org/chooser/ http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php08:10
Unit193^fun to play with...08:10
ubuntu__merci08:10
gnewbHow do I make a persistent USB and where can I find the .ISO at?10:52
wolfpackgnewb: Which release are you looking for?10:53
wolfpack10.10 or 11.04 aplha 2?10:53
gnewbwolfpack: The 10.04 or the Debian 6.010:53
gnewbwolfpack: I am still hacking the system a bit to get a lighter output from the PSU among other things.10:55
gnewbI currently have it booting on an older Itronix and an older AMD that I run on a 12v setup on my boat, ultimate goal is to have a Light System that uses little power.11:07
silverlightninghi11:12
wolfpackhi silverlightning , There  seems to be some connection problem .It keeps on disconnecting agian and agian :(11:13
silverlightningyes it does11:26
silverlightningI'm not shore why11:26
NRWlionhey guys15:46
jorisI am trying to install lubuntu in a virtualbox but I cannot get it working. The install cd just doesn't start. It must be a lubuntu issue because Ubuntu starts fine. Any ideas?17:26
rtdoswhy can't i change the login screen in lubuntu?17:50
skritehey all, is there a 64-bit version of lubuntu?20:24
bioterrornot yet, but jmarsden|work is working on it, as his nick tells us20:25
bioterrorskrite, you have to use minimal installation or other ubuntu version that's 64bit, and install from there20:25
bioterrorI would go with the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:26
jmarsden|workbioterror: the |work means "real work" not "Lubuntu work" :)20:26
bioterrorjmarsden|work, I've seen how you do lubuntu stuff on your work time!20:26
jmarsden|workHowever, I did create my first 64bit Lubuntu ISO last night...20:26
skritebioterror, very well, thanks20:26
jmarsden|workbioterror: It is lunchtime right now :)20:27
bioterrorskrite, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends20:27
skritemuch easier, thnks bioterror20:27
bioterrorjmarsden|work, I've configured xorg.conf with specified resolution with some new comers on my work time, as mostly I dont have anything to do :D20:28
skritegreat distro you guys have here, by the way. Really liking it.20:28
bioterrorI needed 4 mugs of coffee for that20:28
bioterrorskrite, nice hear that you're enjoying Lubuntu20:28
skriteyeah, i find it very smart. I install a light  distro then go through setting up everything the way i like, but lubuntu requires very little change to already be that. a different background, some tweaks to the menu, sometimes a different gtk theme, but thats about it20:30
bioterrorand then you configure chromium to open only into a workspace 2 and and and :D20:31
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jmarsden|workskrite: We are making some menu changes for 11.04 ... if you think the current 10.10 Lubuntu menus could be improved, file a bug report with specifically what needs changing, and we'll look into your ideas.  See bug #65043220:33
ubot5Launchpad bug 650432 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "update-manager (and other system wide settings tools) appear in Preferences menu instead of a System Administration menu" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65043220:33
skritejmarsden, great, will do20:33
* Unit193 still thinks lxterminal is a System Tool...20:46
bioterrorI think it's a application that's needed for anything20:49
bioterrorif you use it for apt-get only, maybe it's a system tool then20:50
bioterrorif you use it for reading stuff, editing stuff, for emails, conversations, ftp, scp,20:50
bioterrorit's more than a system tool20:50
bioterrorI even play music in terminal20:51
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bioterrorwhat a shame that finch sucks ;)20:55
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Unit193bioterror: I only had issues with it crashing...21:14
Unit193I do way more in terminal...21:15
Unit193*then just apt-get21:15
bioterrorthan ;)21:15
bioterrorsorry, that's only word I tend to correct21:16
jmarsden|workUnit193: If you do anything in the terminal that does not start with sudo, then you are doing something that is not system-wide... so the terminal is not just a System Tool for you.21:20
Unit193jmarsden|work: Very true... Did you pick where to put it?21:21
Unit193bioterror: Correction is normally good21:22
bioterrorAccessories21:22
jmarsden|workUnit193: No, I did make a change to the menus for 11.04 so that some system-wide tools move out of Preferences and up into System, though.21:23
jmarsden|workAccessories seems to the the "Ubuntu-standard" place for Terminal, so to me it makes sense to leave it there in Lubuntu.21:23
Unit193bioterror: I know where it is, it just feels funny in Accessories21:23
jmarsden|workUnit193: Why does it feel funny?  It is in Accessories in Ubuntu and (I think) Kubuntu and Xubuntu also...21:24
Unit193jmarsden|work: I guess because the terminal has a ton of power...21:26
NRWlionhey bioterror need help installing libre office21:26
NRWlionare u available?21:26
bioterrorNRWlion, use the ppa21:26
NRWlionlink would be kind :D21:27
bioterrorhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/install-libreoffice-ppa-ubuntu/21:27
bioterrorsorry21:27
NRWlionthat link made my firefox go crashing :D21:27
bioterrorhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/libreoffice-3-3-released/ this is current21:27
jmarsden|workGuys, can we please try not to point people to unofficial resources like omgubuntu when helping out... point to ubuntu.com resources first and foremost.  So https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa21:30
bioterrorsecond url gave correct parameters21:30
NRWlionwithone is now active?21:31
bioterrorand I'm in the lazymode as I'm figuring out my own things21:31
frenkicplesa help, how to add SKK keyboard layer in LXDE ?21:33
bioterrorskk?21:33
frenkicyes slovak and other21:33
bioterrorslovakia21:33
bioterrorjust a moment21:34
bioterroryou can change it with command "setxkbmap sk"21:34
bioterrorI'm trying to remember a permanent configuration21:35
frenkicbioterror thanks it correct21:36
jmarsden|workbioterror: I think    sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data  # is how to reconfigure the keyboard permanently?  Have not tried this in Lubuntu though.21:37
jmarsden|workmake that:    sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup21:38
bioterrorwhy, things have to change all the time21:38
bioterrorwhy oh why21:38
bioterrorand different distros does it in a different way21:38
bioterrorjmarsden|work, /etc/default/console-setup21:39
bioterrorthere's a line XKBLAYOUT="fi21:39
bioterror"21:39
jmarsden|workYes, but don't hack it directly!21:39
bioterrorit doesnt matter ;)21:39
frenkicI did not want it permanently, I like us but sometimes need a keybord sk21:39
bioterrorin natty there's /etc/default/keyboard21:40
jmarsden|workIt does when you are teaching others how to do things.  Teach the "Debian/Ubuntu way".21:40
NRWlioni call it for the day :(21:40
jmarsden|workAnd I suspect that change of config filename will not matter if you use dpkg-reconfigure :)21:40
bioterrorjmarsden|work, running config just rewrites the file21:40
jmarsden|workIndeed.21:40
NRWlioninstalling from apt-get is to much for me now :(21:40
jmarsden|workNRWlion: sudo apt-get install libreoffice    # is too much??? :)21:41
bioterrorhahaha21:41
bioterrorwish I could send nrwlion back to 90's and try Red Hat without yum21:41
bioterrorinstalling dependencies file by file manually21:42
bioterrorand performing searches for exact deps at different ftp search sites21:43
NRWlionbioterror, in the 90s i had different things in mind than sitting in front of a computer and reading LInux books at the same time :D21:43
bioterroryeah, you played PSX :D21:44
* jmarsden|work created once custom distros based on RedHat 5.x/6.x ... and was even paid to do so :)21:44
NRWlionjmarsden, your command is invalid :(21:44
jmarsden|worksudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME    # is definitely a valid command.21:45
jmarsden|workNRWlion: Be specific... do not say "is invalid", say "produced *THIS* error message: foozle bar bang21:46
jmarsden|workThen I might know what happened, and be able to help.21:46
NRWlioni was just trying to specify21:46
NRWlion;)21:47
NRWlioni know that "is invalid" is not specific21:47
bioterrorrememer to "apt-get update"21:47
NRWlionjmarsden|work, Error Message says "Package libreoffice could not be found"21:47
jmarsden|workOK, so the command was valid, it just could not find that package.21:48
bioterrorNRWlion, did you update your repository list?21:48
jmarsden|workSo did you add the PPA and do   sudo apt-get update    first  ?21:48
NRWlionguys one after another21:48
NRWlionbioterror, nope because of non existing knowledge about terminal21:49
NRWlionjmarsden|work, no21:49
bioterrormaybe you should ;)21:49
NRWlionsame reason21:49
bioterrorsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice21:50
jmarsden|workNRWlion: I gace you a link to https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa earlier.21:50
jmarsden|workGo there.21:50
jmarsden|workRead the part about "Adding this PPA" and do what it says.21:50
jmarsden|workthere are exactly 3 steps.21:51
jmarsden|workWhen you have done all 3 of them, run my suggested command    sudo apt-get install libreoffice      # and it will work.21:52
bioterrorjmarsden|work, red hat 6.0 got that nice and cool init with bright green [ok] :D21:53
bioterrorit was so coool!21:53
jmarsden|workSounds right :)21:53
bioterrorfeels like I'm hitting my head against the wall21:59
bioterrorwhy libpurple0 wants gstreamer and gtk stuff22:00
bioterrorI dont need them22:00
szczurtrying to install finch? :P22:00
bioterrorszczur, yep22:00
bioterrorI once managed to do it22:01
bioterrorwith just few deps22:01
bioterrorbut as I have a hole in my head, I cant recall what I did22:02
szczurit tries to do it even with --no-install-recommends?22:03
szczurhmm, stupid assumption. you may be running slackware :)22:04
jmarsden|worksudo apt-get install finch --no-install-recommends  # should work fine22:04
bioterrorno it doesnt :D22:05
bioterrorshould I make a screenshot? :D22:05
jmarsden|workpastebin the text outout somewhere.22:05
jmarsden|works/outout/output/22:05
jmarsden|workIt worked here for me...22:06
bioterrorhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/572371/22:06
bioterror:D22:06
jmarsden|workUm... that's a lot of extra stuff!22:07
jmarsden|workAreyou running Lubuntu 10.10, or 11.04 alpha 2 ?22:07
bioterrorsqueeze :D22:07
jmarsden|workThen go ask for help in #debian22:08
bioterrorjmarsden|work, the reason why you're not getting that much stuff is: you're having pidgin22:08
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* jmarsden|work refuses, as a matter of principle, to do Debian support in an Lubuntu support channel.22:10
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rtdoswhy can't i change the login screen in lubuntu?23:32
Ak1rai have a machine running lubuntu... the only applications really called are oowriter oocalc firefox pcmanfm exaile and gnome-mplayer... and  i tend to notice pretty severe slow-downs when the computer is left on for several days in a row... anyone experiencing anythign similar?23:43
Ak1ramy gentoo machines can run for months with no problem :-/23:43

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