[00:06] is there a lubuntu-server version? [00:07] Na_Klar: Not that I'm aware of, should there be? [00:07] Hm .. servers like to be lightwigthed ;-) [00:08] *lightwighted [00:08] Na_Klar: There wouldn't be a need for a LXDE server ;) [00:08] Servers don't have a gui afaik [00:09] that point of view is not very recent [00:09] rdesktop is a powerful way to manage servesr [00:10] rdesktop? [00:10] is lubuntu just about the gui to assure lightness? .. i expected also the architecture is minimized [00:10] How do I assign macros or keysets , like Alt+Super will start program xyz, Super+T will launch program wxy and so on? [00:11] gnewb: I've seen your nick before, how's it going? :) [00:11] Can't help you, still on gnome [00:11] MrChrisDruif: Is all good here, Thank you, how have you been? [00:11] Na_Klar: Afaik the lightness is gui only [00:12] gnewb: Busy.....mind wasn't functioning as normal......going through some stuff... [00:12] oh .. shame on me ^^ .. I was too fast understanding lubuntu concept .. appearently :P [00:13] Na_Klar: Afaik they didn't make some special kernel mode or something....so gui only afaik :) [00:14] But I think if you ask gilir when he's around (head dev) he can explain everything you could only want to know....and then some [00:14] well .. it is a pity .. one somehow should mix arch-linux with lxde xD [00:14] pacman -Syyu lxde ?? [00:15] Lubuntu uses the X11 environment it is built on the energy saving Ubuntu variant using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. [00:15] Na_Klar: Arch got some awesome documentation.....it should guide you through the process of installing lxde [00:16] yea, i will have a look. ty so far [00:18] gnewb: edit this file: ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml [00:18] Unit193: Thank you. [00:19] I like the xkill one :) [00:20] Unit193: I keep forgetting about the Openbox conf [00:20] gnewb: Tell me if you find anything fun in there ;) [00:21] Isn't it ALL fun in there Unit193? [00:21] Unit183: I always find fun stuff in Conky or any .conf === RedW is now known as RedM [00:57] hi everyone i'm new but I have successfullt intsalled lubuntu plus xp before. I just installed same thing dual boot lubuntu 10.10 next to xp sp3 on my laptop. The problem - I cannot boot xp up again [00:57] Please help [01:00] Anyone here that can help ;) [01:04] seal, well wenn both installations are native it is more a windows problem. what error do you get? [01:04] I do not get an erro - it just goes straith to grub menu [01:05] but win pro does not show up at the bottolist [01:05] seal, that does not sound good. Check your filesystem if you can find windows at all [01:07] @Na_Klar I found all the files and I have tried to re-install windows but this to no avail [01:07] seal: Error: "Na_Klar" is not a valid command. [01:07] lol [01:07] by bad [01:08] well, did you use different partitions for the two installations? [01:08] its painful - I shrinked the windows partition [01:10] actually the partitions were already there since I had a previous lubuntu there [01:10] but I re-installed lubuntu [01:23] i'm out === RedM is now known as RedW === RedW is now known as RedM === peregrinator_six is now known as dial_up_br [07:31] morning [07:32] trying out LUBUNTU and chrome doesnt have the flash plug in...how can i install this [07:32] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [07:32] sudo apt-get install lubuntu-resctricted-extras [07:33] ? sorry newbie here [07:34] hello? [07:34] open terminal [07:34] and and put those commands in there [07:34] !terminal | ubuntu__ [07:34] ubuntu__: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [07:37] unable to locate package...i guess i have to install it before hand...thanks...trying out the live cd [07:38] oh [07:38] livecd's are like that, so limited :D [07:38] you must do first "sudo apt-get update" to load the repositories [07:38] then you can install those [07:38] ohh ok....thats straight fr ubuntu right? [07:39] thinking if i should install mint 10 or lubuntu [07:39] lubuntu [07:39] you can update it without a problems :D [07:40] I had mint and the update process if mostly "re-install!" [07:41] yikes [07:41] is mostly even [07:44] what is ur take on moon os and ylmf...gonna try it this weekend [07:45] sooooooooo quiet in here :) [07:48] ill try lubuntu install this weekend too...thanks bio [07:49] I don't think ylmf is updated that much, seemed kinda buggy and doesn't look as much like XP as the screens on their site [07:49] yup...i tried the live cd ...yikes [07:49] moon os live cd was ok...not familiar with the settings but it was ok [07:50] like the close tab is in the left hand side...duh [07:50] MoonOS I may be testing in my VM (supposed to be very lightweight) [07:50] is there any requirement to install vm? [07:51] yet another ubuntu based distro [07:52] bioterror: yep, this one has E17 as one of the "Editions" [07:52] I tried it year ago or something, I wasnt that impressed [07:52] As long as you're fine with betas Bodhi [07:53] bioterror: Not any faster? [07:53] anything can be fast if you compare to KDE or Gnome with all ding-a-lings [07:53] Might be fun to crack a few mooning jokes... [07:54] ( /\ ) [07:56] any other distro that you guys recommend to try? [07:56] I think world is too full with all these remixes and derivatives [07:56] I suggest to use Lubuntu if you want something minimalistic and you want it to work right out of box [07:57] ubuntu__: Are you looking for small? [07:57] lightweight? [07:57] well.....more light weight and lubuntu is very good [07:58] just installing some repositories and running them im not familiar [07:58] ubuntu__: Depending on how well you can handle config files, crunchbang [07:58] I'm running as my main computer (desktop) Arch Linux with Window Maker-CRM [07:59] Unit193, not that huge different between lubuntu and some stuff with just plain openbox [07:59] we talk about few megs of RAM [07:59] bout 1 gb [07:59] bioterror: I like Debian/Ubuntu based, never did anything with Arch... [08:00] Unit193, I'm a *BSD-person from the deep ;) [08:00] lol [08:00] they just released a new version i think....bsd [08:01] gonna check out arch too hehe [08:01] dont bother if you're not familiar with command line [08:02] and distro hopping is not really helping you out that much [08:03] true....just want to see whats going to be my new os. [08:04] Running irssi in screen (and a bunch and others) [08:08] nites....gonna try some more distro and make a final decision...ill go distro hopping till i find what i like...nothing wrong with that right bio? [08:10] ubuntu__: http://www.tuxs.org/chooser/ http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php [08:10] ^fun to play with... [08:10] merci [10:52] How do I make a persistent USB and where can I find the .ISO at? [10:53] gnewb: Which release are you looking for? [10:53] 10.10 or 11.04 aplha 2? [10:53] wolfpack: The 10.04 or the Debian 6.0 [10:55] wolfpack: I am still hacking the system a bit to get a lighter output from the PSU among other things. [11:07] I currently have it booting on an older Itronix and an older AMD that I run on a 12v setup on my boat, ultimate goal is to have a Light System that uses little power. [11:12] hi [11:13] hi silverlightning , There seems to be some connection problem .It keeps on disconnecting agian and agian :( [11:26] yes it does [11:26] I'm not shore why [15:46] hey guys [17:26] I am trying to install lubuntu in a virtualbox but I cannot get it working. The install cd just doesn't start. It must be a lubuntu issue because Ubuntu starts fine. Any ideas? [17:50] why can't i change the login screen in lubuntu? [20:24] hey all, is there a 64-bit version of lubuntu? [20:25] not yet, but jmarsden|work is working on it, as his nick tells us [20:25] skrite, you have to use minimal installation or other ubuntu version that's 64bit, and install from there [20:26] I would go with the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [20:26] bioterror: the |work means "real work" not "Lubuntu work" :) [20:26] jmarsden|work, I've seen how you do lubuntu stuff on your work time! [20:26] However, I did create my first 64bit Lubuntu ISO last night... [20:26] bioterror, very well, thanks [20:27] bioterror: It is lunchtime right now :) [20:27] skrite, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends [20:27] much easier, thnks bioterror [20:28] jmarsden|work, I've configured xorg.conf with specified resolution with some new comers on my work time, as mostly I dont have anything to do :D [20:28] great distro you guys have here, by the way. Really liking it. [20:28] I needed 4 mugs of coffee for that [20:28] skrite, nice hear that you're enjoying Lubuntu [20:30] yeah, i find it very smart. I install a light distro then go through setting up everything the way i like, but lubuntu requires very little change to already be that. a different background, some tweaks to the menu, sometimes a different gtk theme, but thats about it [20:31] and then you configure chromium to open only into a workspace 2 and and and :D === peregrinator_six is now known as dial_up_br [20:33] skrite: We are making some menu changes for 11.04 ... if you think the current 10.10 Lubuntu menus could be improved, file a bug report with specifically what needs changing, and we'll look into your ideas. See bug #650432 [20:33] Launchpad bug 650432 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "update-manager (and other system wide settings tools) appear in Preferences menu instead of a System Administration menu" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650432 [20:33] jmarsden, great, will do [20:46] * Unit193 still thinks lxterminal is a System Tool... [20:49] I think it's a application that's needed for anything [20:50] if you use it for apt-get only, maybe it's a system tool then [20:50] if you use it for reading stuff, editing stuff, for emails, conversations, ftp, scp, [20:50] it's more than a system tool [20:51] I even play music in terminal === kai_62656_ is now known as kai_62656 === Freejack is now known as Guest69090 [20:55] what a shame that finch sucks ;) === szczur_ is now known as szczur [21:14] bioterror: I only had issues with it crashing... [21:15] I do way more in terminal... [21:15] *then just apt-get [21:15] than ;) [21:16] sorry, that's only word I tend to correct [21:20] Unit193: If you do anything in the terminal that does not start with sudo, then you are doing something that is not system-wide... so the terminal is not just a System Tool for you. [21:21] jmarsden|work: Very true... Did you pick where to put it? [21:22] bioterror: Correction is normally good [21:22] Accessories [21:23] Unit193: No, I did make a change to the menus for 11.04 so that some system-wide tools move out of Preferences and up into System, though. [21:23] Accessories seems to the the "Ubuntu-standard" place for Terminal, so to me it makes sense to leave it there in Lubuntu. [21:23] bioterror: I know where it is, it just feels funny in Accessories [21:24] Unit193: Why does it feel funny? It is in Accessories in Ubuntu and (I think) Kubuntu and Xubuntu also... [21:26] jmarsden|work: I guess because the terminal has a ton of power... [21:26] hey bioterror need help installing libre office [21:26] are u available? [21:26] NRWlion, use the ppa [21:27] link would be kind :D [21:27] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/install-libreoffice-ppa-ubuntu/ [21:27] sorry [21:27] that link made my firefox go crashing :D [21:27] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/libreoffice-3-3-released/ this is current [21:30] Guys, can we please try not to point people to unofficial resources like omgubuntu when helping out... point to ubuntu.com resources first and foremost. So https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa [21:30] second url gave correct parameters [21:31] withone is now active? [21:31] and I'm in the lazymode as I'm figuring out my own things [21:33] plesa help, how to add SKK keyboard layer in LXDE ? [21:33] skk? [21:33] yes slovak and other [21:33] slovakia [21:34] just a moment [21:34] you can change it with command "setxkbmap sk" [21:35] I'm trying to remember a permanent configuration [21:36] bioterror thanks it correct [21:37] bioterror: I think sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data # is how to reconfigure the keyboard permanently? Have not tried this in Lubuntu though. [21:38] make that: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup [21:38] why, things have to change all the time [21:38] why oh why [21:38] and different distros does it in a different way [21:39] jmarsden|work, /etc/default/console-setup [21:39] there's a line XKBLAYOUT="fi [21:39] " [21:39] Yes, but don't hack it directly! [21:39] it doesnt matter ;) [21:39] I did not want it permanently, I like us but sometimes need a keybord sk [21:40] in natty there's /etc/default/keyboard [21:40] It does when you are teaching others how to do things. Teach the "Debian/Ubuntu way". [21:40] i call it for the day :( [21:40] And I suspect that change of config filename will not matter if you use dpkg-reconfigure :) [21:40] jmarsden|work, running config just rewrites the file [21:40] Indeed. [21:40] installing from apt-get is to much for me now :( [21:41] NRWlion: sudo apt-get install libreoffice # is too much??? :) [21:41] hahaha [21:41] wish I could send nrwlion back to 90's and try Red Hat without yum [21:42] installing dependencies file by file manually [21:43] and performing searches for exact deps at different ftp search sites [21:43] bioterror, in the 90s i had different things in mind than sitting in front of a computer and reading LInux books at the same time :D [21:44] yeah, you played PSX :D [21:44] * jmarsden|work created once custom distros based on RedHat 5.x/6.x ... and was even paid to do so :) [21:44] jmarsden, your command is invalid :( [21:45] sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME # is definitely a valid command. [21:46] NRWlion: Be specific... do not say "is invalid", say "produced *THIS* error message: foozle bar bang [21:46] Then I might know what happened, and be able to help. [21:46] i was just trying to specify [21:47] ;) [21:47] i know that "is invalid" is not specific [21:47] rememer to "apt-get update" [21:47] jmarsden|work, Error Message says "Package libreoffice could not be found" [21:48] OK, so the command was valid, it just could not find that package. [21:48] NRWlion, did you update your repository list? [21:48] So did you add the PPA and do sudo apt-get update first ? [21:48] guys one after another [21:49] bioterror, nope because of non existing knowledge about terminal [21:49] jmarsden|work, no [21:49] maybe you should ;) [21:49] same reason [21:50] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice [21:50] NRWlion: I gace you a link to https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa earlier. [21:50] Go there. [21:50] Read the part about "Adding this PPA" and do what it says. [21:51] there are exactly 3 steps. [21:52] When you have done all 3 of them, run my suggested command sudo apt-get install libreoffice # and it will work. [21:53] jmarsden|work, red hat 6.0 got that nice and cool init with bright green [ok] :D [21:53] it was so coool! [21:53] Sounds right :) [21:59] feels like I'm hitting my head against the wall [22:00] why libpurple0 wants gstreamer and gtk stuff [22:00] I dont need them [22:00] trying to install finch? :P [22:00] szczur, yep [22:01] I once managed to do it [22:01] with just few deps [22:02] but as I have a hole in my head, I cant recall what I did [22:03] it tries to do it even with --no-install-recommends? [22:04] hmm, stupid assumption. you may be running slackware :) [22:04] sudo apt-get install finch --no-install-recommends # should work fine [22:05] no it doesnt :D [22:05] should I make a screenshot? :D [22:05] pastebin the text outout somewhere. [22:05] s/outout/output/ [22:06] It worked here for me... [22:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/572371/ [22:06] :D [22:07] Um... that's a lot of extra stuff! [22:07] Areyou running Lubuntu 10.10, or 11.04 alpha 2 ? [22:07] squeeze :D [22:08] Then go ask for help in #debian [22:08] jmarsden|work, the reason why you're not getting that much stuff is: you're having pidgin === szczur_ is now known as szczur [22:10] * jmarsden|work refuses, as a matter of principle, to do Debian support in an Lubuntu support channel. === peregrinator_six is now known as dial_up_br [23:32] why can't i change the login screen in lubuntu? [23:43] i have a machine running lubuntu... the only applications really called are oowriter oocalc firefox pcmanfm exaile and gnome-mplayer... and i tend to notice pretty severe slow-downs when the computer is left on for several days in a row... anyone experiencing anythign similar? [23:43] my gentoo machines can run for months with no problem :-/