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bjsniderlongstanding nvidia-current issue is now resolved in the x-updates ppa and in natty official int he next couple of days00:41
bjsniderstand up and pollute your britches with joy00:42
durthey folks, an update this afternoon has left me without network, NM's message upon exit during boot is 'cannot find usable dhcp client' or some such, I'll try re-installing isc-dhcp-client. Anybody have anything else to suggest?01:05
jfidurt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/72455601:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 724556 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Natty) "[Natty] isc-dhcp update breaks network connection" [Critical,Fix released]01:44
durtjfi, thanks just found it myself and got them, now to reboot to natty.01:53
jeffwheelerI'm trying to figure out how nm determines when to connect to a network. I often have ethernet available, but it seems like nm will try to connect to a wifi network in addition to this, which means that it drops my stream and restarts it. But since this happens pretty frequently (a few times a minute, until my wifi starts breaking), a music stream is pretty annoying.01:59
jeffwheelerIt seems like once it has an ethernet connection, it shouldn't try to route any traffic over an available wifi network, even if that network is set to connect automatically.01:59
nemowow. that last set of natty updates screwed up my system bad02:02
nemonetwork manager was helpless02:02
nemohad to go to a vt and manually setup eth0 after borrowing a cable02:02
nemohere's hoping the next setup fixes02:04
jeffwheelerI've had longtime wifi problems, never quite diagnosed it. It'll drop after being online for only a few seconds, without my system seeing that the network has died (i.e. it thinks it's still connected, but can't get to the internet anymore, at which point reconnecting fixes it). Other times, it just times out connecting again and again.02:04
nemoalso entire desktop repeatedly crashed, causing continual error dialogs to pop up02:04
nemowhew. seems to be all better02:08
lamalexcan someone please help me escape dependency hell?04:19
elkyYou'll need to be more specific.04:20
lamalexelky, I don't exactly know how- when I try and update it wants to remove. ... pretty much everything04:22
nit-witthis is common in this level of development, wait for a straight update/upgrade04:31
elkylamalex, update "it"?04:33
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cdbsIs there some memory leak in Ubuntu?06:44
cdbsMy system hogs up a lot of memory very soon06:45
cdbseven though I may not run that many apps06:45
cdbsokay, got it: bug #72297206:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 722972 in unity (Ubuntu) "small memory leak in unity-panel-service per use of global menu" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72297206:49
leagrisHello07:21
susundbergGood morning07:21
leagrisPlease could you guide me in reporting a bug. Some updates ago, the root account no longer has ENV variables set up for system wide proxy settings. What package should I report to in Launchpad?07:22
leagrisI could patch /root/.bashrc and add export https_proxy=https://10.48.7.1:3128/ because the lan I'm on require this so Apport can report crash using SSL, but my guess is, root should share the system wide proxy settings verbatim07:24
leagrisI reckon not looking at that before as it just used to work. Maybe Apport switched to SSL and the ENV proxy settings where never set up for root, or it ceased to be. I don't know.07:26
leagrisWell, looking further, .bashrc for root is the same as for all users. It look like proxy_settings are in /etc/environment but this does not get loaded by root, so Apport does not know of the proxy for SSL07:34
susundbergPlease see: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting07:40
susundbergFinding proper package (linked from that page): https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Bugs/FindRightPackage07:40
susundbergAnd "f for some reason you cannot file a bug through the Apport tool you can file one via Launchpad"07:41
leagrisThanks susundberg but I could not find any clue on identifying a package related to /etc/environment loading by root. apt-file search /etc/environment return nothing.07:45
leagrisSorry, crap ! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/20776807:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 207768 in sudo (Ubuntu) "no_proxy environment dropped when calling synaptic" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:54
leagrisA two years old bug resurfacing, still open, still confirmed, not-fixed07:55
* leagris slap the Maverick Meerkat with a rotten bug numbered 20776807:56
protimorning09:30
znejkHi, I have one partition with 10.10 and one with natty. Today when i did an update in natty it updated grub but when i rebooted the only thing I can see from 10.10 is memtest. Is there a way to reprobe the kernels or something with grub or is all lost?09:38
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om26ernatty does not boot, even did a clean install and the same problem, have to manually start dbus and then gdm starts12:27
om26eranyone know of a solution?12:27
robin0800om26er, got that here too have to do sudo stop gdm   wait then sudo start gdm12:31
* yofel installs nvidia driver again12:38
yofelbetter :)12:43
susundbergBinary from nvidia page? does it work (again) with new X?12:45
yofelno, 270.29 package from x-updates ppa, works fine12:47
yofel270.29 was released yesterday and adds support for x server 1.1012:47
yofelhttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15999012:48
vega- hmm i use x-swat-updates and have not gotten 270.2912:48
vega-still on 270.1812:48
vega-or is this a different ppa?12:49
yofelhm, no, it's https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ - the driver is only there for natty though12:50
vega-oh ok, i'm still on maverick (on this machine)12:50
vega-guess 270.29 would still work on maverick though12:51
htorquenatty is still at 260.19.29-0ubuntu1, though12:51
vega-sure, officially12:52
htorquemy monitor blinks every 30 seconds with nouveau - do want binary blob NOW12:52
yofelyep, it'll take a few days until it's in the archive12:52
dsdale24I'm running kubuntu natty, been keeping up to date. After upgrading yesterday or the day before "aptitude full-upgrade" and restarting, I can no longer access the network. Wireless networking isnt working, and even rebooting with a wired connection isn't working. Its a dual-boot machine, windows 7 can connect to the network. Is there a way I can check my config?13:28
susundbergthe fact that wire-net is not working sounds alarming13:30
susundbergifconfig shows your network configuration13:30
susundbergand iwconfig your wireless configuration13:30
dsdale24ifconfig just shows lo13:38
dsdale24iwconfig shows "lo no wireless extensions" "eth0 no wireless extensions" "wlan IEEE 802.11abg ESSID off/any"13:41
susundbergso you are not connected anywhere ..13:41
dsdale24right13:41
susundbergshould the wired connection have dhcp? What are you usually configuring your net with? Why does that not work?13:41
dsdale24I tried rebooting with an older kernel (-4 and -5), in safe mode root with networking, but it won't connect13:42
dsdale24dhcp, yes13:42
susundbergit wont connect -- you mean its not connecting automatically as it used to?13:42
susundberghave you tried clicking the network manager icon?13:43
dsdale24I usually don't have to do anything for the wired, it just works. With wireless, I use the network manager app in kubuntu13:43
susundbergAnd if you click the network manager what happens -- it seems to work but nothing happens?13:44
dsdale24right, its not connecting automatically. When I use the network manager program in kubuntu, the wired connections tab is greyed out and inaccessible, and when I scan for wireless networks, the interface combo box is empty and there are no networks found13:45
susundbergok, try open console and type there 'iwlist scan'13:45
susundbergThat should scan for available wireless networks (i used to test if driver works ok)13:45
dsdale24lo and eth0: "interface doesnt support scanning", wlan0: "failed to read scan data: network is down"13:46
susundberghmm13:46
susundbergoh you did say that ifconfig didn show anything but lo13:46
dsdale24nothing but lo, yes13:46
susundbergtry "ifup wlan0"13:46
susundbergand then again ifconfig13:47
susundbergcheck if wlan0 appeared there13:47
dsdale24ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan013:47
susundbergand ifconfig shows nothing?13:47
dsdale24ifconfig still only shows lo13:47
protidsdale24: did you try a dhclient eth0 as root ?13:47
susundbergok, how about eth0 then? (ifup eth0)13:47
yofelthere was a dhclient bug yesterday, maybe you're hit by that13:48
yofelmade DHCP essentially unusable13:48
dsdale24sudo ifup eth0: interface eth0 already configured13:48
susundbergbut that should not make network manager unusable?13:48
protidsdale24: try: ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth013:49
dsdale24dhclient: command not found13:49
yofelbug 72455613:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 724556 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Natty) "[Natty] isc-dhcp update breaks network connection" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72455613:49
protiWonderfull13:49
yofelsusundberg: it will render every app that needs dhclient unable to use DHCP13:49
protiWan kind of dhcp client do you have then ?13:49
susundbergah ok.13:49
yofelproti: got that too, he needs to update13:49
yofelsomehow...13:50
protiHow ? He's got not network..13:50
susundberg(but why isnt the eth0 showing up in ifconfig)13:50
protibo*13:50
susundbergwith usb stick :)13:50
dsdale24how do I update without networking? (not meant to sound snarky)13:50
popeyboot from a live cd, mount up and chroot the local install, update?13:50
protidsdale24: You can ifconfig manualy all the relevant informations.13:50
protiYou have to know all the dhcp information to connect.13:51
dsdale24booting from a live cd is a royal pain on my computer, there is a problem with the drive13:51
yofelwell, one option would be to download the new isc-dhcp-client .deb and copy it over, or set your IP and gateway by hand, I did latter13:51
susundbergnot all, but ip and router?13:51
popeyusb?13:51
dsdale24I've never been able to boot a live cd13:51
popeypull the disk out, put it in another machine, chroot, update :)13:51
protiMake an usb boot and use it.13:51
yofelIP, hostmask and gateway and DNS should be enough13:52
susundberg!! why not copy the package to usb stick and install there13:52
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:52
susundbergwell one can use 8.8.8.8 as 'fix me soon' dns ;)13:52
susundberg(that is google dns )13:52
yofelseriously, if you don't know how to set the IP by hand, just copy the .deb from another machine13:53
protidsdale24: You need to have the previous informations from the dhcp. They lies in a dhcp lease or in your /var/log/syslog.13:53
dsdale24If I can just copy a deb to usb, and upgrade from there, that seems easiest. Where can I get it, and could you explain the command to run?13:53
protieasiest but not the fastest.13:53
yofeldsdale24: what architecture?13:54
protibrowse http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/13:54
protithe isc-dhcp-client should be in i/isc-dhcp-something13:54
yofelhe can just fetch it from launchpad13:54
yofeldoesn't matter though, right13:55
protiindeed13:55
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/isc-dhcp/4.1.1-P1-15ubuntu5 go to the build for your arch and fetch what you need, isc-dhcp-client at least13:55
dsdale24ok13:56
dsdale24yofel: amd64, sorry, hard to keep up. You guys are amazingly responsive13:58
protiHe needs the isc-dhcp-common too or not ?13:58
yofelmaybe, I'm not sure what he'll need to fix it, after that he can just update the others over net13:59
protiI mean he'll to dpkg --force-all to install this packages since deps won't match.14:03
dsdale24I can't remember how to install from a .deb, guess I've been spoiled by the package manager14:03
yofeloh yeah, it has an explicit version depends on -common, so he'll need it14:03
protiIf I remember well, the package was just missing the /var/run/isc-... files.14:03
protiWell dpkg *will think* it needs it.14:04
yofelyeah14:04
yofeldsdale24: sudo dpkg -i <deb>14:04
dsdale24thanks14:05
yofelgive both at -client and -common at the same time, then dpkg won't complain14:05
dsdale24ok, done. shall I reboot?14:08
yofelshouldn't be necessary14:08
dsdale24well, when I click on the network manager icon (which is a red button with a white X on it), I still don't have access to wired networking14:09
protihggdh: ping14:09
yofeldsdale24: what does sudo dhclient say now?14:10
hggdhproti: bonjour14:10
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dsdale24yofel: "sudo dhclient eth0" it doesn't say anything14:11
yofeloh cool, nvidia 270.29 uploaded to natty14:11
yofelthat's progress over command not found, try rebooting, maybe our ifup/down messed something up14:11
protihggdh: salut14:11
dsdale24will do14:12
protihggdh: no news from our fellows devs ?14:12
protiThe bug is picking up heat.14:12
hggdhyeah14:12
hggdhcjwatson was going to look at it14:12
protiI'll post a workaround that works for me to unblock people14:13
hggdhbut I know there was yet another critical bug that had him for a while14:13
protithe dhcp one ?14:13
hggdhproti: please do it14:13
hggdhproti: no, I do not think so, although it might have been yet another14:14
protiWell, it's manual. no way to fix that for now. It's just a formal write of boot init=/bin/bash then initctl stop mountall, kill, initctl start moutall again and again until it boots.14:14
protihggdh: He told me it was something to do with CDIMAGE of server broken.14:15
protiI remember now14:15
dsdale24thank you yofel, proti, and susundberg, I'm back in business. Just in time too, I was planning on working on python3 support for matplotlib this weekend, now that I finished migrating the project to git and github14:15
hggdhcorrect14:15
protidsdale24: you're welcome.14:16
yofel:)14:16
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dsdale24you guys are awesome14:16
hggdhproti: but it does not work for all. Mine is still hosed, ecryptfs down14:16
protihggdh: Did you try to reverse the package one by one until it works ?14:16
protiWe'll know then who's the culprit.14:17
hggdhproti: no, I did not. I did try to identify the sequence, but upstart still befuddles me... there is really no doc on which events are used, and the flow14:18
hggdhI did think of building a preti net for it14:18
protia what ?14:19
Ian_Cornedoes the new xorg stack work with the beta nvidia drivers? (270)14:20
yofelIan_Corne: it does with 270.2914:22
hggdhproti: a petri net, sorry. Dyslexia is having a day with me14:22
yofelIan_Corne: fetch it from x-updates or wait a few hours14:23
Ian_CorneI will wait a few hours14:23
Ian_CorneI'm kinda lurking and leeching this +114:23
yofel^^14:23
Ian_Cornedon't have time to work stuff out :)14:23
protihggdh: What's a petri net ? Like a petri box ?14:30
protihggdh: I updated the bug with the operation description.14:31
protiMind to try if it resurrects your ecryptfs ?14:31
hggdhproti: a preti net is a tool for modelling event-based flows -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petri_net14:37
protiok14:38
protiMay I say that the logic of the boot was not changed by the update. Something in the update changed the behaviour of the mountall.14:40
hggdhproti: what I noticed on my side is that the upstart event sequence is changing from boot to boot14:44
hggdhand I do not know what programme emits what signals14:44
hggdhthis would help a LOT, since then we would have a clear picture of the boot sequence, event-based14:45
hggdhproti: I will also try your sequence (I was running it a bit different)14:45
protihggdh: I modified it because if I kill -9 the mountall process, upstart launch the sulogin as emergency on/ or do a shutdown instead of going on.14:53
protisulogin on the same console as an interactive shell makes the tty unusable.14:53
hggdhheh. Yes, I found it out :-)14:53
protiSo I tried sleep 5 && kill -9 mountall14:54
protiand switch to vt714:54
protiUnfortunately, this morning, this resulted only in shutdown sequence.14:54
hggdhthis is why I think we are getting stuck in different points each boot14:58
protihggdh: init -v always showed the same end of sequence15:03
coz_hey guys15:03
protimountall and other running then mountall-net and others ends correctly but mountall which stays there stuck.15:04
protiThe picture you took is coherent with what I saw.15:04
hggdhyes, but the steps before varied. I have 9 filesystems; the ones that would be mounted varied per boot; the sequence of mounting also15:10
HerrBertHow can I get my system to use the downloaded and upgraded (via apt-get) kernel 2.6.38?15:18
patdk-wkapt-get dist-upgrade, reboot15:20
HerrBertI upgraded all versions of 2.6.38 (daily update and dist-upgrade) but it was never used, grub only shows the 2.6.3715:21
protiupdate-grub15:22
protiHerrBert: you're using natty ?15:22
HerrBertdid not help... here is dpkg -l linux-image-*: http://pastebin.com/wedJYqu015:23
patdk-wkshould be, only thing with 2.6.38 in it :)15:23
protiHum, you really should purge some of them.15:23
HerrBertcan I just purge an old kernel version15:24
protiYes15:24
HerrBertvia apt-get purge?15:24
patdk-wkapt-get remove linux-image-2.6.2.*15:24
protidpkg -P linux-image (everything from 2.6.24 -> 2.6.35)15:24
hggdhproti: yes... in my case, a 'initctl stop mountall' hangs. I have to kill -9 it15:25
protiAnd keep just one version of each major (2.6.38-5 2.6.37-12)15:25
protihggdh: Then how about your ecryptfs ?15:25
hggdhoh, it is still dead15:26
protiLet me see15:26
HerrBertpatdk-wk: trying to remove brings: Package linux-image-2.6.28-16-generic is not installed, so not removed (for 2.6.24 to 2.6.27)15:26
patdk-wkjust ignore that message15:27
patdk-wkit attempt to remove anything, even things not installed :)15:27
protihggdh: If I remember well, the ecryptfs is pam controled, not upstart.15:29
HerrBertuuups, I accidentally all kernels15:29
protiHerrBert: Classic. I hate aptitute for this.15:30
protidpkg is much more picky which means more secure at usE.15:30
patdk-wkI never had an issue with apt15:31
protiaptiture happilly removes half of your system.15:31
patdk-wkme and aptiture don't get along15:31
HerrBertI just had: apt-get remove  linux-image-2.6.31* and it wanted to delete all my kernels... dunno why15:31
patdk-wkHerrBert, it takes regex input15:32
patdk-wkmaybe use ' around it15:32
protipatdk-wk: Try -> aptitude remove --purge-unused15:33
patdk-wkproti that wants to remove like nothing15:33
protiRemoves every packages it thinks is unused.15:34
protiProblem is it guess completely wrong.15:34
HerrBertsame as autoremove?15:34
patdk-wkI only have two kernels installed15:34
protiHerrBert: That's the command.15:34
protiI've been bitten once. So I decided, no more aptitude, never and ever.15:35
yofelI usually just run aptitude interactively and remove all kernels marked as obsolete15:35
yofelthat never did the wrong thing so far15:35
* patdk-wk keeps deleting old kernels, and forgetting some xen systems still use them15:36
patdk-wkbut xen will be completely gone soon, so won't have to worry15:36
yofeltrying to put working patterns in the parameters is pretty complicated and I usually get that wrong too15:36
protihggdh: You have to check your pam configuration for the ecryptfs thing.15:37
HerrBertI still want to know how to get from 2.6.37 to 2.6.38 =) any help?15:37
soreauHey guys I downloaded a natty live image a couple days ago but when I try to install it, there is only a busy cursor on installation screen after clicking forward to install15:38
yofeliirc the images were pretty broken recently, try to sync the image or use the alternate disk15:39
yofelHerrBert: what's the error you get again?15:40
protiHerrBert: Once old kernel purged, you need to issue the update-grub command.15:40
yofelhe shouldn't need to, removing kernels will trigger update-grub15:40
protiI would like to see the ouput of the command in a pastebin to check.15:40
protiyofel: the install too. I suspect there is too many kernel for the grub.15:41
genii-aroundIs: "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ExecFailed: Failed to execute program /lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success" anything to currently worry over?15:41
yofelyeah, he got Xen errors on update-grub yesterday, we didn't get any further at debugging that back then15:41
HerrBertthe problem I have is: "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.38-generic -> linux-image-2.6.38-5-generic is already the newest version." but uname -r -> 2.6.37-8-generic15:41
protiYour problem happenned near 2.6.37-8.15:42
yofelHerrBert: we need the output of update-grub, pastebin would be best15:42
protiMy last kernel 2.6.37 is -12.15:42
HerrBertgimme a sec15:42
HerrBertyofel: http://pastebin.com/MQZxTLjg15:43
yofeloh, you have old grub..15:43
protiHum, there are obviously not xen kernels.15:44
protiHerrBert: How about installing grub-pc ?15:45
yofelstill, shouldn't fail, at least file a bug15:45
HerrBertI'll try =) never heard of that although :D15:45
protiIt is grub 215:45
yofeland since grub1 is still in main it is supposed to be supported15:46
protiIndeed. The update-grub thinks for whatever reason that your kernel is a Xen kernel.15:47
protiStrange.15:47
yofelI found the lines in update-grub that fail, let's see if I get what they do...15:47
yofelhttp://paste.kde.org/5826/ line 142415:48
HerrBertthe grub-pc configuration asks me some stuff about chainloading, shall I do yes or no? :)15:49
protiyofel: I think the problem is rather near 1555.15:50
protiHerrBert: You have windows ?15:50
HerrBertnope15:50
yofelproti: that's the end of the file...15:51
protiyofel: Oups, sorry, 138415:51
HerrBertbut 1 line in grub showing windows, but there is no installation i think15:51
yofelproti: agreed, that's what I'm looking at currently15:51
yofelour kernels do have CONFIG_XEN_PRIVILEGED_GUEST=y set15:52
HerrBertI think grub-pc did it =)15:53
protiSo they are considered as XEN kernels.15:54
protiyofel: Why are the kernel setting this options ? They are DOMU kernels ?15:55
yofelno idea, let me look at the changelog15:55
yofelnothing to be found..15:56
protiyofel: http://paste.kde.org/5829/15:57
protiXEN is on with every kernel.15:58
protievery 2.6.38.*15:58
yofelyeah, probably since 37-9 looking at his issue15:59
HerrBertgrup-pc really did it15:59
HerrBertthx15:59
HerrBertbut still the problem with the mountall 'n stuff15:59
protiHerrBert: Did you use the & to make the getty go background16:02
HerrBertmhm16:02
HerrBertI commented the bug in lp with more detail16:03
protiHerrBert: Oups, Sorry I misread your entry.16:04
HerrBertnp =)16:04
protiSo after getty tty8, you don't have a shell in the vt8 ?16:04
HerrBertnope, just my blinking underscore16:04
protiYou can do a mount -a16:05
protithen : initctl start tty216:05
proti3, 4 and so one but not the one where you are.16:05
protiHerrBert: Ha, another thing, you have to exit twice from the chroot for the things going on.16:06
protiYou did it ?16:06
HerrBertI do not have a shell, I used exactly(!) the commands of the post above mine =)16:07
protiLet sum up -> break=mount then ctrl-x to boot16:07
HerrBerti will try now, because I have different kernel and different grub now, maybe it was affected by that16:07
HerrBerty16:07
protiThen a prompt wiht (initramfs) ?16:07
HerrBertyes16:07
protichroot /root /bin/bash16:08
HerrBertthen I had the 3 mentioned errors16:08
protigives you a prompt like (null)@root#16:08
HerrBertbut i could do 2 times the exit and system was booting16:08
HerrBertyes16:08
HerrBertroot@(null) i think16:08
protiWhen launching the getty twice, you should have the same prompt on two different tty (alt+f6 and alt+f8).16:09
protiHerrBert: correct, I swaped both16:09
protiHerrBert: Then you don't have those two prompts. I don't get it, you should have them.16:11
HerrBertI launched getty twice and exit twice and then waited for system to halt (when booting) -> then  I checked tty6 and tty8 but there was nothing16:12
protiYou can check just after the start of the getty.16:12
protiAnyway you can do the initctl start/stop and the shell you get after sysreq+i.16:13
protiand/at*16:14
protiHerrBert: Is this the machine you using now that has this problem ?16:16
yofelFWIW - CONFIG_XEN_PRIVILEGED_GUEST=y seems to be set for all amd64 kernels set by Tim Gardner "UBUNTU: [Config]: updateconfigs after rebase to 2.6.37-rc1"16:24
protinot coherent.16:25
protiIt happens only after 2.6.37-9 which is quite late.16:25
proti-rc1 is the first patch.16:25
yofelgit does say16:25
yofel26749bc7 (Tim Gardner               2010-10-22 14:16:25 -0600 482) CONFIG_XEN_PRIVILEGED_GUEST=y16:25
yofelthough16:25
protiWhen was the 2.6.37-9 published ?16:26
protiOne has to ask him about this.16:26
protiIt seems we are running Xen kernel for quite a long time ? Or not ?16:27
yofelyeah, odd -9 is from Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:15:35 +000016:28
protiHumm...16:28
yofelit's set for i386 virtual and generic-pae too, but not for generic16:29
protiYou are talking about i386 arch.16:29
protiIt's set here for amd64.16:29
yofeldid he tell us what he used? it is set for amd64 generic at least16:30
yofelah well, have to go, bbl16:30
protibye then16:31
protiyofel: Need to file bug ?16:31
Herrbertgetty -8 -n -l /bin/bash 38440 tty8& does still not bring up a shell on Alt+F816:33
yofelI'll do that later after poking the kernel team16:34
protiyofel: it's basicaly a dummy symbol.16:34
protiNot using anywhere in the arch.16:34
protiHerrbert: it's 38400 not 38440.16:35
protiThat's why.16:35
Herrbertargh :D why do all say its 38440?16:35
protiI did a Stupid typo.16:35
Herrbertmkay, retry again16:36
yofelah, feel free to file one then16:38
yofelnow I'm really gone16:38
protiAgainst kernel or update-grub ?16:39
protiHerrBert: Welcome back.16:44
HerrBertproti: now your workaround works =) I'll never shut down my machine until this is fixed :D16:44
protiGood16:44
protiNow you're natty again.16:45
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HerrBertyay :D16:45
protiI should have done the same as you (double boot between natty/maverick).16:45
protiUnfortunately, I only have natty on this machine.16:46
HerrBertnah, i only have natty16:46
protiHerrBert: How then did you boot before ?16:46
HerrBertbut with sysreq+i , startx and stard dbus start network manager i managed to get into irc on the "broken" natty16:47
HerrBert=)16:47
protiwow. You're quite resilient.16:47
protiyofel: bug already filed 58678616:48
HerrBertproti: im not good in shell commands, but if i have X i feel comfortable, because I can use many tools i cant in only shell16:49
protihggdh: ping16:55
HerrBertbtw: is unity still very buggy?16:55
protiDon't know. I'm not using it.16:56
hggdhproti: sir?17:06
protiWell, look at backlog, there is a nice bug in update-grub from grub117:07
protihggdh: Herrbert was not seeing newer kernels installed on his system.17:08
HerrBertshould I have filed that one? i forgot...17:08
protiIt's related to a bug in update-grub that ignores every kernel that has the XEN_PRIVILEGES_GUEST set in the confi.17:09
proticonfig*17:09
hggdhhum17:09
protiAnd since xen is not installed, it does not generate a xen entry for those.17:10
protibug 586756 is related17:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 586756 in grub (Ubuntu) "update-grub ignores pvops kernels on Xen domU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58675617:10
protiI added a comment, but it's undecided / unassigned.17:10
HerrBertwhat is this xen stuff?17:12
protiParavirtualisation of the kernel. Search for xen domU dom0.17:12
Volkodavdid nvidia get the new drivers out? looks like safe-upgrade is not holding the xorg anymore17:33
Volkodav270.29 is OK with new X I guess ?17:36
bjsniderVolkodav, affirmative18:14
Volkodavgood18:14
Volkodavso these are beta drivers right?18:17
HerrBertI think i also have probs with my nvidia drivers, sometime out of nowhere parts of my panels become black, and when mousover the symbols that are there come up again, but still black areas there where no buttons and stuff is...18:24
bjsniderVolkodav, affirmative18:26
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BUGabundohey19:09
DaekdroomHas anyone else been facing problems with transmission's indicator?19:29
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cjohnstonIs anyone having issues with the titlebar not showing up on windows?20:46
pietro10Hi. Why does the update-manager -d process want me to remove cmake21:24
pietro10?21:24
pietro10it's used by several projects I help with21:24
yofelcould be a dependency conflict as it's not part of the default installation - I personally have cmake installed here21:27
pietro10huh21:29
pietro10is there a way to find out from within synaptic?21:29
yofeliirc update-manager had logs somewhere, it should have the reason why it wants to remove it in there21:30
pietro10I'll check again later then, thanks21:31
yofelyou can probably install it again later, as I said, it's installed fine here21:32
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