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jasonoHi. How do I remove Kubuntu if I have that and Ubuntu installed together?00:30
MrChrisDruifjasono: USC > kubuntu-desktop remove00:32
jasonousI don't understand MrChrisDruif00:33
MrChrisDruifUSC = Ubuntu Software Center :)00:33
MrChrisDruifOr sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop should work as well...s/purge/autoremove if you want to keep the config files (don't do it ;))00:34
jasonoSo sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu?00:34
MrChrisDruifYeah, why not?00:34
MrChrisDruifYou are ubuntu right?00:35
jasonoYeah.00:35
jasonoWant to keep Ubuntu but remove Ubuntu.00:35
MrChrisDruifWell....removing kubuntu should give no problem afaik00:35
MrChrisDruif*remove Kubuntu*00:35
jasonoThank you.00:36
MrChrisDruifYour welcome :)00:36
MrChrisDruifBut I really need to go....otherwise I'll fall in sleep on my sofa :P00:36
MrChrisDruifUTC+1 :(00:37
jasono:P Bye MrChrisDruif00:37
MrChrisDruifThnaks00:38
jasonoEnjoy.00:38
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c-unitcan u tell me if i can create the dev/mixer file?03:05
jwhisnanthow can I change the maverick netbook desktop theme look and feel back to the one from lucid ? or can I ?03:07
aveilleuxc-unit: The /dev/mixer file is a "pseudo-file"... that is, it's not really a "file" per se, but a representation of the mixer hardware in the file system.03:07
aveilleuxjwhisnant: On login, after clicking your name, select "GNOME" in the "Sessions" dropdown (Instead of Unity)03:07
c-unitand what can i do if a program is askinf for it03:08
aveilleuxc-unit: Which program?03:08
c-unitconky03:08
c-unitto use the mixer variables03:08
aveilleuxc-unit: I know next to nothing about conky, but I suspect that if you don't have a /dev/mixer then your audio hardware doesn't support the methods that conky uses03:09
aveilleuxc-unit: There's also /dev/audio03:09
c-uniti dont have dev/audio03:10
jwhisnantaveilleux, not an option03:10
aveilleuxc-unit: Not dev/audio, /dev/audio03:10
c-unitno03:10
aveilleuxc-unit: ...is your audio hardware installed/working?03:11
c-unityes03:11
c-uniteverithing is working03:11
jwhisnantaveilleux, ubuntu desktop, netbook 2d, netbook edition - i think the gnome session gives the gnome desktop instead of netbook version03:13
jwhisnantaveilleux, but i will look again ...03:13
aveilleuxjwhisnant: Oh, oh, you want the older Netbook interface... I don't know about that, sorry03:14
jwhisnantaveilleux, exactly, doing a media center setup, so the desktop is a little small, but works better than the new 10.10 netbook theme, at least for me03:15
r4yHello03:27
ddecatorhey r403:27
ddecatorr4y*03:27
r4yI am wondering, would my modem and not just my router be set to a certain channel?03:29
r4yEverytime our phone is being used my internet connection drops03:29
r4ywhich is a wireless phone hooked into the landline03:30
r4yI should try changing the channel my router is using.03:30
r4yI originally changed channels because routers are set to channel 6 so I set my router to channel 103:31
r4yI meant routers are set by default to channel 603:31
r4ySo back to my question to make it more clear:03:32
r4yAre modems set to a channel?, I would guess so.03:32
r4yI should try to find out what channel our wireless phone uses03:33
ddecatorso you think the wireless is interfering?03:33
r4yI should also look at where I put the filter I put on for Majic Jack which we aren't using anymore03:34
r4yyes03:34
r4yWe bought a cheap filter, but that couldn't be it because I can torrent as much as I did before.03:35
r4yI am going to look03:35
ddecatorthe router should function within a specified frequency range, which should interfere with any other wireless devices (unless there are a bunch of routers in the area). not really sure why a wireless phone would cause the connection to drop (i don't know off-hand what frequency range each is required by law to use)03:35
ddecatorwhich shouldn't interfere with any other wireless devices*03:35
c-unithow can i compile a kernel?04:03
head_victimc-unit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile is a good place to start. Never tried myself though04:04
c-unitthnks i'll give it a try04:05
sdollinshihi.04:29
sdollinsI was here whining about my laptop randomly pasting a while back.04:29
sdollinsI have discovered the problem i believe.04:29
bioterrorI can recall04:29
sdollinsIt is middle clicking :(04:30
bioterroryes it is04:30
bioterrorthat's default settings in X04:30
bioterror:D04:30
sdollinsI have no clue why though lol.04:30
aveilleuxsdollins: Yeah, middle-click's been the default paste behavior in BASH for a while04:30
bioterrorif you just select with your mouse some text, it will be copied to X's clipboard and middle button pastes04:30
bioterroraveilleux, bash?04:30
sdollinsWell that's not the problem, I'm aware it does that.04:30
sdollinsI just don't know why it's middle clicking.04:31
aveilleuxbioterror: I've noticed that behavior when SSH'ing as well.04:31
aveilleuxsdollins: It's traditionally been the shortcut.04:31
sdollinsIt seems to do it when I touch the touchpad in a very weird way.04:31
bioterroraveilleux, you paste text randomly to irc or what?04:31
sdollinswhich i happen to do while typing hehe.04:31
aveilleuxbioterror: I don't randomly paste, I just middle-click to paste lol04:32
bioterroraveilleux, what that has to do with bash or ssh?04:32
aveilleuxsdollins: Are you using regular Ubuntu? Or a variant like K/Xubuntu?04:32
sdollinsUbuntu04:32
sdollinsIs there a way to just disable middle click?04:32
aveilleuxbioterror: That's the behavior it exhibits. Even older AIX machines do it.04:32
bioterroraveilleux, as I said: it's in the X1104:32
aveilleuxsdollins: Yep. hang on while I boot my laptop, it's the one that has the program installed04:33
sdollinsoki :>04:33
aveilleuxbioterror: The AIX boxes in question are not running X11.04:33
sdollinsI love this channel <304:33
bioterroraveilleux, their graphical envinroment uses the same feature04:33
aveilleuxbioterror: There is no graphical environment.04:33
seidossdollins: me too :)04:33
sdollinsIf the netsplits didn't make me crazy, I'd idle here.04:34
bioterroraveilleux, did you GPM pastes too from the mouse button #304:34
bioterroryou know04:34
seidosare the netsplits that bad?  i don't even notice them04:34
sdollinsWell in the bigger channels, yes.04:35
bioterrorthis is a small channel04:35
bioterroronly 6804:35
sdollinsYes, I see that now.04:35
sdollins#ubuntu is like awful when they happen.04:35
aveilleuxsdollins: Install the gpointing-device-settings package04:35
aveilleuxsdollins: It'll be under System > Preferences > Pointing Devices04:36
sdollinsthank you very much04:36
sdollinsI don't see a setting for middle click o.o04:38
r4yHello06:11
r4yMy internet connection is bad06:11
r4yI just don't know what to do06:11
r4yI just went into my router to change the channel to channel 1106:12
r4yHowever, 2.4GHz is the channel the wireless phone uses06:12
r4yI am wondering about tomato as replacement for the firmware on my Linksys wireless router06:13
r4yCan it change to an even higher channel?06:14
r4yMy router is a WRT64G06:14
r4ylinksys router06:14
aveilleuxr4y: It'd be a lot easier to just get a 5.2GHz phone06:14
aveilleuxr4y: All modern cordless phones operate on a different frequency than wireless network devices06:15
r4yHmm, I wonder if we have a wireless phone for that frequency.06:15
aveilleuxr4y: All phones made in the past five years operate on that frequency.06:15
r4ySo, it must be an older phone then06:15
aveilleuxr4y: Go to Radioshack or something anf get a new one06:16
r4yThank you for telling me06:16
r4yIt's raining here06:16
seidosi have an older phone that works fine06:16
seidostoo bad you couldn't save your money06:16
bioterrorr4y, I hope not men :D06:16
r4yI don't the joke?06:17
r4yI don't get the joke?06:17
r4yIt's not raining men06:18
r4yyou must be talking about the song, LOL06:18
bioterroryep :D06:18
r4yI hope it's not raining women either, poor women06:18
r4yor cats. Rarrr!, hisss06:19
bioterror:D06:20
r4yAs for filters. We have a splitter that has a wire running from it to the modem, and the other wire from the splitter goes to the phone and between the phone and the splitter we have a filter for the phone.06:23
r4yI tried this command and it didn't help me earlier:"sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"06:24
r4yI guess that command with be useful at another time06:24
bioterroryou can do it nowdays: sudo service networking restart" ;)06:25
bioterrorthat's "ubuntu way" :D06:25
r4yWithout the *star*06:25
r4yoo[ps06:25
r4yoops06:25
bioterroroh without "06:26
r4ysorry that is a quote06:26
bioterror:D06:26
r4yOK, great I will save that as the other way06:26
r4yGreat06:26
r4yThank you06:27
r4yI even made note that one is the linux way and the other is the ubuntu way.06:28
r4yUbuntu is great06:28
r4yLinux is great06:28
r4yDistros are us06:28
r4yjust kidding06:28
r4ysorry for being corny06:29
r4yThat will be useful to me06:30
seidosit's cool that you're enthusiastic :D06:31
r4yWhat OS does duanedesign use?, I would he has Ubuntu, but under his commands for the program CLI Companion he had the command I posted.06:32
seidossudo service networking restart was probably just added06:32
r4yOK06:32
seidosto like 10.10 or something06:32
r4yWell, I am using 10.04 but OK06:33
seidoswhatever works r4y06:33
seidosif sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart works, then keep using it06:33
r4yOK06:33
r4yI want to know more about flooding06:34
seidoswhy?06:34
seidosis there a problem with floods where you live?06:34
r4yI didn't completely get what MrChris was trying to tell me06:34
r4yNo, I meant on IRC06:34
seidosflooding is just sending too much text over IRC06:34
r4yDoes that include post a single line that is a link to a pastebin06:35
seidosr4y: do you think it includes that?06:35
r4yDoes pastebin get flooded?06:35
seidosi believe not06:36
r4yHe seemed to disagree with what I was saying and I just stated what you said. Maybe I just didn't word it right06:37
r4yThat was yesterday06:37
r4yYou guys are all cool. I just wanted to make sure my understanding is right06:38
seidosyou seem to be doing fine to me.06:39
seidosi'm not sure why you're so worried about it.06:39
seidosdid you accidently flood and people flip out?06:39
r4yThank you.06:39
seidosfloods, quakes, tornados...dogs and cats sleeping together, human sacrifice, mass hysteria!06:40
seidosjoke :D06:40
r4yHe suggested to go to some other channel and he was really cool about it.06:40
r4yIt was on Freenode I think06:40
r4yLOL06:40
r4yThere wasn't many people around is what I said, but I wasn't trying to be rude.06:41
r4yHe is a cool guy06:41
r4yI don't want things to sit wrong at all06:41
r4yWe didn't have an arguement06:42
seidosright on06:42
r4yWhat is the ubuntu chat what ever you want channel?06:42
r4yI mean with in reason of coarse06:43
seidosthere's #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-beginners-team06:43
r4ybut team sounds like the higher up people06:44
seidosr4y: you could try to find your ULUG06:44
seidosr4y: that is probably by design.  if you want to join the team, that is probably where you want to go06:44
seidosor hang out (lurk) awhile, and see if you like it and want to contribute06:44
r4yTeam?06:44
seidosthe beginners team06:44
seidostry to help beginners, spread ubuntu, and more06:45
r4yWell, I need more time to get the hand of it all.06:45
seidoshttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam06:45
seidoswell, you don't have to do it alone :D06:45
r4yThere is so much  want to know. I feel lost sometimes06:46
seidosyou could do marketing, documentation...whatever you can to help give back06:46
seidosi feel you.06:46
seidosi am learning to slow down, relax, try to get smoother06:47
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zidanyone here who can explain how I install mozilla sunbird ?08:36
zidI have dloaded the packages08:36
zidbut I'm rusty on the installation commands08:36
ziddont think it is in the apt-get repositories08:37
zidso I have to do it manually / commandline08:37
ziddo I have to do the "make dep" procedure and so on?08:38
geirhaWhat's the name of the file you downloaded?08:40
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zidgeirha: good question :)09:13
zidI'll have to look.  its a bzh archive I think. I used the usual package manger I think09:14
zidsunbird-1.0b1.tar.bz209:14
geirhaAh, well then it's hard to say what it may contain. Just extract it somewhere, then look for a README or INSTALL file, and read that.09:15
zidthanks :)  I plain forgot there usually follows a install readme text :)09:16
zidmy bad09:16
zid:)09:16
MrChrisDruifzid: It's alright......we also sometimes forget the usual stuff...at least me :P09:17
zidoops. the readme just contains a link to their homepage. the faq does not have any installation walkthrough for linux though...09:20
MrChrisDruifBastards <_<"09:20
zidshould I move the whole unpacked directory to the etc catalogue and try to run the binary?09:21
MrChrisDruifI don't know...I'm in class.... geirha?09:22
geirhazid: What other files are in it?09:23
zidokay lets see09:23
zidlib.so files, binaries, sh files and so on09:24
MrChrisDruifzid: Is there an install.sh?09:24
geirhaAh, so it's prebuilt09:24
zidyes09:24
zidI think so09:24
MrChrisDruif.sh files are bash scripts....they would install the program for ya09:24
zidrun-mozilla.sh09:25
zidah09:25
geirhaNo, .sh files are sh scripts, though sometimes people wrongly name bash scripts with .sh extension.09:25
zidI just type from command line ?09:25
geirhaIf there's an executable file named sunbird, try that.09:27
zidI did but no reaction from the prog09:27
geirhaHm. Try running it from the terminal then, maybe it'll give you a message about what's wrong.09:28
zidah09:29
zidyes09:29
zidthere clearly is a sunbird executable but when I run it even as root it says command not found09:30
zidbut again, the directory is not placed in the etc catalogue09:30
geirhazid: That usually means you are trying to run a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system, without having 32-bit libraries installed.09:30
zidthat might be it yes09:31
geirhaetc? that's not a place to put a program09:31
geirha/opt would be more suitable09:31
zidah, okay I thought that was where linux placed all the progs09:31
zidokay09:31
geirhaNo /etc only has the config. Programs are spread all over the system, usually.09:31
geirhaIn this case, it seems like it's packaged windows-style ... all files in one dir.09:32
geirha/opt is usually preferred for such programs.09:32
zidah09:32
zidbut how would I copy a program as root and still retain the rights to execute it?09:33
zidI dont think I'm allowed to even create a folder in the opt directory unles I'm root09:33
zidI dont think I'm allowed to even create a folder in the opt directory unless I'm root09:33
bioterrorchmod +x file09:33
geirhazid: cd /opt && sudo tar jxf /path/to/sunbird-1.0b1.tar.bz209:34
zidah, but should I really chmod any of the system directories?09:34
zidah thanks09:34
bioterrori would prefer /usr/local/bin for owwn programs09:34
Recklessim having problem installing rad 7.009:34
RecklessA Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be available in order to run IBMIM. No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /opt/IBM/InstallationManager/eclipse/jre_5.0.3.sr8a_20080811b/jre/bin/java09:34
zidbio: exactly09:34
geirhazid: Then    sudoedit /etc/environment   and add   /opt/sunbird   to PATH09:34
bioterrorno need to add /opt to path and yadda yadda09:34
zid/usr/local/bin ... forgot all about it :)09:34
zidthanx geirha09:35
zidand bio09:35
zid:)09:35
bioterror/opt is slowaris lusers :D09:35
geirhabioterror: Well, this is a windows-style package09:35
bioterrorfor09:35
geirhabioterror: All files and libraries in one dir09:35
bioterrorokay09:35
bioterrordisgusting09:35
zidah, no, there are some subdirectories here as well. forgot tomention09:35
bioterrorno deb for it?09:35
geirhazid: Yes, I assumed as much, but that doesn't change anything.09:36
zidcomponents dictionaries and modules sub-directories and a few others09:36
zidok09:36
geirhaThe change to /etc/environment will not take effect until you log in again, but after you've logged in again, you can start it by just running "sunbird"09:38
bioterrortheres no deb package for sunbird? its mozilla09:38
zidno sunbird did not respond to apt get09:39
geirhaHowever, you first need to fix the "command not found" error. Either find a 64-bit package of it, or install the 32-bit libs (I don't remember what those packages are called)09:39
bioterrorim using phone atm, but i bet theres a ppa for it09:39
zidapt-get did not responod to sunbird :)09:39
zidk09:39
bioterrorhowabout google for sunbird ppa09:39
Recklesshelloooo09:40
zidhm. some of the google refrences state that one should be able to just type sunbird to run it09:42
zidbut the 32 64 issue might have something crucial to do with it yes09:42
zidsure I dloaded the 32bit version09:43
geirhazid: And   file /bin/bash   says 64-bit, right?09:43
zidIle have to look09:43
bioterroruname -a09:44
bioterrortells your systems bit09:44
zidyup09:44
zid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped09:44
zidLinux zid 2.6.35-26-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Sun Jan 30 08:27:58 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux09:45
geirhaOh, you do have 32-bit system, so you tried to run it without specifying a path, then?09:45
geirhaI.e. sunbird instead of ./sunbird09:45
zidperhaps. I tried to run it from command line from its directory09:45
zidah09:45
zidyup09:45
geirhazid: PATH=$PATH:/opt/sunbird09:45
geirhasunbird09:46
geirhaThat'll add it to PATH in your current terminal.09:46
geirhaThe change to /etc/environment makes it permanent ... as soon as you log back in.09:46
zidah there! it started using ./sunbird from the directory yes :)09:47
zidk09:47
zidthanks09:47
zidthanks guys09:47
Phoenix__hello all total newb here wondering about what I think is driver support09:55
Phoenix__I have been play'n around for ever try'n to get ubuntu10.10 to run on my desktop and from searching I am pretty sure it is driver for my graphics card. It'll boot sometimes with GUI and not at all most others I can still ssh it and run commands from another comp09:58
Phoenix__hello10:23
ibuclawduanedesign, upgrade should be OK10:50
ibuclawonly remark I have is if you have autohide enabled in the Unity plugin, turn it off10:51
ibuclawelse the panel with spuriously hide / show itself10:51
ibuclawin a rather violent way. {:-D10:51
ibuclawon the bright side of things...10:52
ibuclawbow chika wow wow for FF4.0 theme :D10:53
ibuclawsuper key -> open unity menu could get seriously annoying though10:59
mongoxhello11:21
mongoxim starting to use ubuntu quite recently11:21
mongoxi like it but i found a bit slow for my old P4, i understand that people can make11:22
mongoxtheir own distros, would someone point me to where to start to look to make my own ?11:23
mongoxthanks11:23
wolfpackmongox: If you want to go for a light version of ubuntu then you can go for lubuntu.11:28
mongoxlubuntu, im going to google that, ta!11:29
wolfpackFor creating your own distro, I think you should know packaging and use some iso creating software .11:29
wolfpackI am not sure about creating distro .11:29
mongoxok, so is like hardcore uisers only ?11:30
duanedesign+1 on Lubuntu11:31
duanedesignlubuntu is very nice and perfect for older computers11:32
duanedesignalso the Beginners team has a lot of Lubuntu users so you can get plenty of help with Lubuntu here :)11:32
duanedesignmongox: ^11:32
mongoxin cases like this that i want to try something else, i have to delete the partition and crete everything again or there is any way to "upgrade" to say in a way11:32
duanedesigngood question11:35
duanedesignit is possible...11:35
duanedesignmongox: let me see if i can find a sane way for you to do that11:36
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mongoxto be honest i do have 2 old pc one is without cd drive / floppy .. and  is xubuntu running on it..11:38
mongoxand the only way to install something is trought the network card (it took me a week ) lol11:39
JoeMaverickSettthis shall do; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors11:39
MrChrisDruifHai JoeMaverickSett :)11:39
MrChrisDruifLubuntu ppa? :P11:40
JoeMaverickSetthey MrChrisDruif11:40
MrChrisDruifHow's it going JoeMaverickSett?11:40
mongoxlook quite simple even for a noob, thanks11:41
JoeMaverickSettmongox: no problem :)11:41
duanedesignmongox: ok11:43
duanedesignmongox: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends11:43
MrChrisDruifduanedesign: First install ppa right? O:-)11:44
duanedesignmongox: then: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde11:44
duanedesignMrChrisDruif: it is in the regular repo, i think11:45
bioterrorno need for the repo11:45
bioterrorI mean ppa repos11:45
mongoxduanedesign is that after the installation then ?11:45
duanedesignmongox: what I would do is install the lubuntu-desktop. Then reboot. You will have the option at the bottom (when you put in password) to select LXDE11:47
bioterrorI would not11:47
duanedesignmongox: then work on getting rid of the gnome stuff11:47
duanedesignoops11:47
bioterrormenu's are full of gnome crap :D11:47
duanedesignlol11:47
duanedesignmy last line was going to be "but we should ask bioterror " ;)11:47
bioterrorbut yeah11:48
bioterroryou're actually right11:48
bioterrorboot into LXDE and then run the line from psychocats11:48
bioterrorI'm a little slow atm. as I am having a phone conference with my team mates11:48
duanedesigncool11:48
bioterrorWORK TEAM11:48
bioterrorsomething I get paid for :D11:48
duanedesignno worries, there is lag too11:48
mongoxok, im going to try this (would be back in liek 3 hours ) lol11:49
ibuclawmongox, keep safe!11:49
ibuclawstay away from rave music! O:11:49
bioterrorhahaha11:49
mongoxmy pidgin crashes on my netbook when i needit the most.. lol12:16
mongoxok i was installing in the other room following the 1st link,  the installation ask me something about video mode ? or something ?12:17
mongoxi just press [enter] that means if i dont have video i choose the wrong option ?12:17
duanedesignhello mongox12:22
mongox_v2im following the psychocat instructions, give me a couple of errors, but i guess is tring to delete some stuff and if is not there  aimrite?12:33
bioterrorusually you see the errors ;)12:34
mongox_v2i guess when you install and see errors you should care , not nao12:35
mongox_v2ok  It did not take 3 hours to follow everything , let see the breakneck speed of lubuntu on this pc from the last century12:39
bioterrorwhen you installed lubuntu, you technically installed a 10k RPM scsi drive and quad socket mobo with four xeon's each running 4 cores and 132GB of RAM ;)12:42
mongox_v2in that case im going to rip the lame sticker that say "designed for microsoft windows 2000 profesional "12:44
bioterror:D12:44
mongox_v2im going to open a tab with youtube and find a video of CRYSIS to se how it runns12:45
bioterrormongox_v2, does it work?12:59
mongox_v2seems to me everything is working ok, video & sound, even browsing seems to be better. im just restarting to see booting times13:04
mongox_v2i just found is not even a p4 is a pIII 1000mhz with 512 of ram, you can ask for miracles here13:05
mongox_v2my brother told me to try puppy linux but im not sure is worth the hassle13:06
mongox_v2you can say whatever you want but this little fella boot faster than my core2duo with win7 :-S13:10
mongox_v2thanks for the help to all of you guys..13:12
bioterrorhmm13:12
bioterrormongox_v2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ me and my couple of pals have created something like this13:13
mongox_v2thanks for that , system is working perfect so far so, i use this pc for browsing and chat and everithing is working ok13:16
bioterrorthat's just some fine tuning and so on13:16
bioterrorpeople tend to ask these things alot, so I decided to make that make :D13:17
mongox_v2for how long are you been using linux ?13:18
bioterrorsince 199813:19
mongox_v2i started with ubuntu netbook remix and i love it , and i would like to migrate everithing to linux , i hate m$ with passion and apple too13:19
bioterrorI hate just apple, I tend to like MS ;)13:19
mongox_v21998 hey that is like the fundation of linux or something like that13:20
bioterrorit was Red Hat 5.2 Manhattan13:20
bioterrorI have to say that dialing to internet with 56k modem and using PPP was diffucult back then13:21
mongox_v2300 bauds FTW13:22
mongox_v2i hate m$ i was a DRDOS user13:22
bioterrorActive Directory just works13:23
bioterrorI have nothing against it13:23
udienzjoin #ubuntu-beginners-dev13:23
udienzbah13:24
geirhabioterror: It has some annoyances though ... like you can't have a group and user by the same name.13:25
bioterrorsmall things :D13:25
geirhabioterror: You need a windows server to host it :P13:26
bioterrorsure13:26
mongox_v2no idea about active directory but sounds old13:26
bioterrorand there's nothing wrong with it13:26
mongox_v2are you trolling?13:26
bioterrorwhy would I?13:26
mongox_v2lol13:26
bioterrorwe can move to #ubuntu-beginners-team13:27
bioterroras offtopic13:27
mongox_v2back to n00b questions, I got netbook remix 10.04 because when i moved to 10.10 i did not liek the unity thinghy13:30
mongox_v2i found slow & buggy, there is any improvments or still bad?13:30
geirhaI haven't tried 10.10 yet, other than briefly in vbox. I prefer to stick with LTS releases.13:31
mongoxmm the little pc does not shut down properly13:36
mongoxim not sure if is something permanent , stil  not a big deal tho!13:37
szczurmongox, what was the problem with not shutting down properly?13:57
mongoxno idea after i shutt down the screen whent black and did not turn off13:58
szczurhard disks are stopped but pc isn't shutting down?13:58
mongoxi have to doit manual (long press on the power button)13:58
mongoxsort off that i heard the HDD spinning but not working13:59
szczurplease run terminal13:59
mongoxlike when is reading/writing13:59
mongoxgimme a sec pc is in the kitchen , brb13:59
szczurrun sudo gedit /etc/default/grub14:00
szczurand in line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT14:00
szczuradd "acpi=force" after "quiet" word14:00
szczurso it will look like this14:01
szczurGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet acpi=force"14:01
szczursave it14:01
szczurand run sudo update-grub14:01
mongox_v2sorry i just arrived to the kitchen14:02
mongox_v2did you send something  ?14:02
szczurreboot pc, and try to shut down it again14:02
mongox2:00:12 PM) szczur: run sudo gedit /etc/default/grub14:02
mongox(2:00:25 PM) szczur: and in line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT14:02
mongox(2:00:52 PM) szczur: add "acpi=force" after "quiet" word14:02
mongox(2:01:26 PM) szczur: so it will look like this14:02
mongox(2:01:35 PM) szczur: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet acpi=force"14:02
mongox_v2ok now i know , gimme just a sec14:03
mongox_v2[N00B] question no GEDIT the lubuntu equivalent [/SOrry]14:06
szczurahhh, leafpad14:07
mongox_v2K14:07
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tenachIs there a performance boost on a netbook when using NBR rather than standard desktop?18:09
Cheri703that's a really good question...I'd be curious to know the actual answer, but if I had to guess, I'd think the only things that'd give a performance boost would be graphical differences (no effects, etc)18:13
tenachNevermind; I just read that they're merging it with the desktop edition.18:13
tenachIt is going to be discontinued as of 11.04 since desktop is using Unity as well.18:13
Cheri703I like(d) the 10.04 netbook edition18:13
Cheri703tried unity when it came out with 10.10, HATED IT, but it was uber buggy18:13
johnny77Cheri703: tenach: for me unity was just too slow on 10.10.18:14
tenachI opted for desktop rather than NBR because I don't like how the netbook Unity is laid out.18:15
charlie-tcaI think unity on 10.10 was using mutter, unity on 11.04 is using compiz, it seems to matter18:15
tenachYeah.18:15
tenachI'm glad they're going to compiz...18:15
johnny77in 11.04 they are going to use compiz?18:16
charlie-tcayes, unity in Natty is using compiz18:16
tenachI'm glad, it makes it more consistent with how Ubuntu has been running (at least, with GNOME).18:18
tenachAlright, another question: Does anyone have ACPI working on a Dell Inspiron Mini 10?18:27
johnny77How do I turn up my microphone volume?18:47
holsteinyou can look in alsamixer18:47
holsteinfrom the terminal18:47
holsteinalso, you can install pavucontrol18:48
johnny77holstein: in alsamixer, I have mic boost, capture and digital and they are all about maxed.18:49
holsteinjohnny77: that might be all she's got18:49
johnny77could my microphone be muted?18:51
holsteinsure18:51
johnny77how do I check?18:51
holsteinjohnny77: dont trust those labels either18:51
holsteinin pulse or alsamixer18:51
holsteinjohnny77: in the buisness, the offical way to test a mic is to tap on it ;)18:51
holsteinactually, dont tap on the 5 thousand dollar ribbon mics18:53
johnny77how do I unmute something?18:54
holsteindid you install pavucontrol?18:54
johnny77no, only alsamixer18:54
johnny77installing now.18:55
johnny77holstein: done installing pavucontrol18:56
holsteincool, i think you got more options with it18:56
holsteinits not JACK, but it'll do18:57
johnny77holstein: is there some kind of sound recorder in ubuntu that I can test the input19:01
holsteingnome-sound-recorder19:02
holsteinaudacity19:02
holsteinall kinds of stuff really19:03
johnny77holstein: thanks for your help.19:05
holsteinjohnny77: anytime19:05
holsteinit can be challening19:05
holsteinbecause of the labels and all19:05
holsteinjohnny77: did you get it sorted?19:05
johnny77holstein: getting sound but it's super quiet. :(19:06
holsteinwhat mic?19:06
holsteinhardware19:06
holstein?19:06
holsteinon a laptop ?19:06
johnny77I have a netbook that has a built in mic, but i've also been playing around with a couple of mics I had laying around.19:06
holsteinmy built in mic works well19:07
holsteinasus EEE 1001p19:07
holsteini plug a stereo mic in though19:07
holsteinand the gain is low19:07
holsteini have an external preamp though19:07
holsteinjust for that purpose19:07
johnny77i was trying to use skype so it could be that too.19:08
holsteinwhat are you trying to do?19:08
holsteinusually, the internal mic will do the job19:08
holsteinunless you need a headset or something19:09
johnny77I'm just trying to talk to someone through skype and they said I was super quiet19:09
holsteinyeah19:09
holsteintell them to turn up the volume ;)19:09
holsteinjohnny77: the skype test call can be helpful19:10
johnny77ttrue.19:10
holsteintheres not really an easier way to do it though19:10
holsteinjohnny77: its usually just fiddly like that19:11
mtkorbMy 10.04 boot stops and gives the message "ureadahead main process (312) terminated with status 5." On launchpad, someone said this error is caused by having /var mounted on a separate partition. This is my case (actually on a different drive altogether), but how do I fix it?19:11
holsteinjohnny77: in pavucontrol19:12
holsteinyou should see in the 'input devices' tab19:12
holsteina read out19:12
holsteinwhen you tap on the mic19:12
holsteinand there is a level control19:12
holsteinjack that up and see what happens19:12
holsteinand i usually tell skype not to automatically control my settings19:12
johnny77I was playing with that... but it didn't seem to help. It's ok... no big deal. Thank you.19:13
IsidoreGi19:18
IsidoreHi there, i am looking for some help with a Wubi installation of 10.1019:18
ssk_the_gr8need help19:25
hakimsheriffIf you need help, just ask19:29
ssk_the_gr8k19:30
hakimsheriffSaying I need help won't really help at all19:30
ssk_the_gr8so i'm installing ubuntu 64 bit in a new partation of 100gb19:30
ssk_the_gr8can i acces my windows ntfs partation from ubuntu?19:30
raubvogelIf someome mentions a test package is in ppa:serge-hallyn/ipmi, how do I get to it?20:05
holsteinraubvogel: you can add that PPA20:10
holsteinis you wish20:10
holsteinhttps://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/ipmi20:10
holsteinyou can navigate to /pool as well20:11
holsteinhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/serge-hallyn/ipmi/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openipmi/20:11
holsteinand DL the .deb20:11
holsteinssk_the_gr8: that should be no problem20:11
raubvogelThanks holstein! I promised I was going to try i tou tbut realized I di dnot know how to get it :)20:12
mtkorbMy 10.04 boot fails with "ureadahead main process (312) terminated with status 5." Anyone know what this means? I've checked launchpad bugs and ubuntuforums and can't get a definitive answer.20:12
holsteinhey mtkorb20:12
holsteinis that all the output you get?20:12
mtkorbholstein: yeah, nothing else gets printed at all.20:16
holsteinmtkorb: try an older kernel20:20
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mtkorbholstein: i think it has to do with my /var being in a different partition. I'm gonna boot with a USB drive and take a look. thanks though.20:42
raubvogel mtkorb, holstein, I have the same problem and AFAIK it is a bug20:44
raubvogelGreat way to duplicate it is install ubuntu with /var being part of / and then set it on its own partition20:44
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tenachBroadcom B43, Broadcom STA both won't let me connect to my wireless network (ubuntu 10.10, dell mini 10)... i've also tried some where I need to use cli to install, but none of them are letting me connect to any router. Anyone else have this problem?23:25
tenachI've been Googling with little success.23:25
NRWlionhey there ... the new guy is back ;)23:33
UndiFineD:)23:34
NRWlionUndiFineD, we do already know us :D23:35
NRWlionUndiFineD, got a minute?23:36
NRWlioncould use some help23:36
UndiFineDsure23:36
NRWlioni am writing that Mail to introduce me to the team and would appreciate it if some1 could read it proof ...23:36
UndiFineDoh ok :)23:36
NRWlionjust if you do not have any other projects waiting23:37
NRWlion!paste23:37
ubot2For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:37
UndiFineDUndiFineD@gmail.com23:38
UndiFineDNRWlion: you missed the link to your wiki, which needs updating too on your LP page23:41
UndiFineDI would say: sehr gut23:41
NRWlionwell then i will give it a try ^^23:42
NRWlionlink to wiki will be added ;) thx for proof reading ;)23:42
UndiFineDhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UndiFineD23:43
NRWlioncrap. my mail client is crashed23:49
NRWlioni wasnt able to safe the text of the mail23:49
NRWlion:(23:49
NRWlionUndiFineD, could you please resent my mail to jens.leineweber@gmail.com?23:49
UndiFineDsure23:50
UndiFineDbtw I only use gmail23:50
NRWlionthx a lot23:50
NRWliongmail is my RL-Work Account23:51
NRWlionUndiFineD, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nrwlion23:52
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NRWlionthx alot UndiFineD just got the mail23:53
UndiFineDyou will have it twice23:53
UndiFineDas I replied initially23:53
NRWliondoesnt matter23:54
NRWlioni will cancel that freenet account23:54
NRWlionand than use my gmail for work here23:54
UndiFineDfreenet :)23:56
NRWlioni call it for the moment. need to get some rest23:56
UndiFineDI use miredo23:57
NRWlionalready awake since 0400 utc yesterday23:57
NRWliongn8 every123:57

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