[00:30] Hi. How do I remove Kubuntu if I have that and Ubuntu installed together? [00:32] jasono: USC > kubuntu-desktop remove [00:33] usI don't understand MrChrisDruif [00:33] USC = Ubuntu Software Center :) [00:34] Or sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop should work as well...s/purge/autoremove if you want to keep the config files (don't do it ;)) [00:34] So sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu? [00:34] Yeah, why not? [00:35] You are ubuntu right? [00:35] Yeah. [00:35] Want to keep Ubuntu but remove Ubuntu. [00:35] Well....removing kubuntu should give no problem afaik [00:35] *remove Kubuntu* [00:36] Thank you. [00:36] Your welcome :) [00:36] But I really need to go....otherwise I'll fall in sleep on my sofa :P [00:37] UTC+1 :( [00:37] :P Bye MrChrisDruif [00:38] Thnaks [00:38] Enjoy. === RedW is now known as RedM === RedM is now known as RedW === RedW is now known as RedM [03:05] can u tell me if i can create the dev/mixer file? [03:07] how can I change the maverick netbook desktop theme look and feel back to the one from lucid ? or can I ? [03:07] c-unit: The /dev/mixer file is a "pseudo-file"... that is, it's not really a "file" per se, but a representation of the mixer hardware in the file system. [03:07] jwhisnant: On login, after clicking your name, select "GNOME" in the "Sessions" dropdown (Instead of Unity) [03:08] and what can i do if a program is askinf for it [03:08] c-unit: Which program? [03:08] conky [03:08] to use the mixer variables [03:09] c-unit: I know next to nothing about conky, but I suspect that if you don't have a /dev/mixer then your audio hardware doesn't support the methods that conky uses [03:09] c-unit: There's also /dev/audio [03:10] i dont have dev/audio [03:10] aveilleux, not an option [03:10] c-unit: Not dev/audio, /dev/audio [03:10] no [03:11] c-unit: ...is your audio hardware installed/working? [03:11] yes [03:11] everithing is working [03:13] aveilleux, ubuntu desktop, netbook 2d, netbook edition - i think the gnome session gives the gnome desktop instead of netbook version [03:13] aveilleux, but i will look again ... [03:14] jwhisnant: Oh, oh, you want the older Netbook interface... I don't know about that, sorry [03:15] aveilleux, exactly, doing a media center setup, so the desktop is a little small, but works better than the new 10.10 netbook theme, at least for me [03:27] Hello [03:27] hey r4 [03:27] r4y* [03:29] I am wondering, would my modem and not just my router be set to a certain channel? [03:29] Everytime our phone is being used my internet connection drops [03:30] which is a wireless phone hooked into the landline [03:30] I should try changing the channel my router is using. [03:31] I originally changed channels because routers are set to channel 6 so I set my router to channel 1 [03:31] I meant routers are set by default to channel 6 [03:32] So back to my question to make it more clear: [03:32] Are modems set to a channel?, I would guess so. [03:33] I should try to find out what channel our wireless phone uses [03:33] so you think the wireless is interfering? [03:34] I should also look at where I put the filter I put on for Majic Jack which we aren't using anymore [03:34] yes [03:35] We bought a cheap filter, but that couldn't be it because I can torrent as much as I did before. [03:35] I am going to look [03:35] the router should function within a specified frequency range, which should interfere with any other wireless devices (unless there are a bunch of routers in the area). not really sure why a wireless phone would cause the connection to drop (i don't know off-hand what frequency range each is required by law to use) [03:35] which shouldn't interfere with any other wireless devices* [04:03] how can i compile a kernel? [04:04] c-unit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile is a good place to start. Never tried myself though [04:05] thnks i'll give it a try [04:29] hihi. [04:29] I was here whining about my laptop randomly pasting a while back. [04:29] I have discovered the problem i believe. [04:29] I can recall [04:30] It is middle clicking :( [04:30] yes it is [04:30] that's default settings in X [04:30] :D [04:30] I have no clue why though lol. [04:30] sdollins: Yeah, middle-click's been the default paste behavior in BASH for a while [04:30] if you just select with your mouse some text, it will be copied to X's clipboard and middle button pastes [04:30] aveilleux, bash? [04:30] Well that's not the problem, I'm aware it does that. [04:31] I just don't know why it's middle clicking. [04:31] bioterror: I've noticed that behavior when SSH'ing as well. [04:31] sdollins: It's traditionally been the shortcut. [04:31] It seems to do it when I touch the touchpad in a very weird way. [04:31] aveilleux, you paste text randomly to irc or what? [04:31] which i happen to do while typing hehe. [04:32] bioterror: I don't randomly paste, I just middle-click to paste lol [04:32] aveilleux, what that has to do with bash or ssh? [04:32] sdollins: Are you using regular Ubuntu? Or a variant like K/Xubuntu? [04:32] Ubuntu [04:32] Is there a way to just disable middle click? [04:32] bioterror: That's the behavior it exhibits. Even older AIX machines do it. [04:32] aveilleux, as I said: it's in the X11 [04:33] sdollins: Yep. hang on while I boot my laptop, it's the one that has the program installed [04:33] oki :> [04:33] bioterror: The AIX boxes in question are not running X11. [04:33] I love this channel <3 [04:33] aveilleux, their graphical envinroment uses the same feature [04:33] bioterror: There is no graphical environment. [04:33] sdollins: me too :) [04:34] If the netsplits didn't make me crazy, I'd idle here. [04:34] aveilleux, did you GPM pastes too from the mouse button #3 [04:34] you know [04:34] are the netsplits that bad? i don't even notice them [04:35] Well in the bigger channels, yes. [04:35] this is a small channel [04:35] only 68 [04:35] Yes, I see that now. [04:35] #ubuntu is like awful when they happen. [04:35] sdollins: Install the gpointing-device-settings package [04:36] sdollins: It'll be under System > Preferences > Pointing Devices [04:36] thank you very much [04:38] I don't see a setting for middle click o.o [06:11] Hello [06:11] My internet connection is bad [06:11] I just don't know what to do [06:12] I just went into my router to change the channel to channel 11 [06:12] However, 2.4GHz is the channel the wireless phone uses [06:13] I am wondering about tomato as replacement for the firmware on my Linksys wireless router [06:14] Can it change to an even higher channel? [06:14] My router is a WRT64G [06:14] linksys router [06:14] r4y: It'd be a lot easier to just get a 5.2GHz phone [06:15] r4y: All modern cordless phones operate on a different frequency than wireless network devices [06:15] Hmm, I wonder if we have a wireless phone for that frequency. [06:15] r4y: All phones made in the past five years operate on that frequency. [06:15] So, it must be an older phone then [06:16] r4y: Go to Radioshack or something anf get a new one [06:16] Thank you for telling me [06:16] It's raining here [06:16] i have an older phone that works fine [06:16] too bad you couldn't save your money [06:16] r4y, I hope not men :D [06:17] I don't the joke? [06:17] I don't get the joke? [06:18] It's not raining men [06:18] you must be talking about the song, LOL [06:18] yep :D [06:18] I hope it's not raining women either, poor women [06:19] or cats. Rarrr!, hisss [06:20] :D [06:23] As for filters. We have a splitter that has a wire running from it to the modem, and the other wire from the splitter goes to the phone and between the phone and the splitter we have a filter for the phone. [06:24] I tried this command and it didn't help me earlier:"sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" [06:24] I guess that command with be useful at another time [06:25] you can do it nowdays: sudo service networking restart" ;) [06:25] that's "ubuntu way" :D [06:25] Without the *star* [06:25] oo[ps [06:25] oops [06:26] oh without " [06:26] sorry that is a quote [06:26] :D [06:26] OK, great I will save that as the other way [06:26] Great [06:27] Thank you [06:28] I even made note that one is the linux way and the other is the ubuntu way. [06:28] Ubuntu is great [06:28] Linux is great [06:28] Distros are us [06:28] just kidding [06:29] sorry for being corny [06:30] That will be useful to me [06:31] it's cool that you're enthusiastic :D [06:32] What OS does duanedesign use?, I would he has Ubuntu, but under his commands for the program CLI Companion he had the command I posted. [06:32] sudo service networking restart was probably just added [06:32] OK [06:32] to like 10.10 or something [06:33] Well, I am using 10.04 but OK [06:33] whatever works r4y [06:33] if sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart works, then keep using it [06:33] OK [06:34] I want to know more about flooding [06:34] why? [06:34] is there a problem with floods where you live? [06:34] I didn't completely get what MrChris was trying to tell me [06:34] No, I meant on IRC [06:34] flooding is just sending too much text over IRC [06:35] Does that include post a single line that is a link to a pastebin [06:35] r4y: do you think it includes that? [06:35] Does pastebin get flooded? [06:36] i believe not [06:37] He seemed to disagree with what I was saying and I just stated what you said. Maybe I just didn't word it right [06:37] That was yesterday [06:38] You guys are all cool. I just wanted to make sure my understanding is right [06:39] you seem to be doing fine to me. [06:39] i'm not sure why you're so worried about it. [06:39] did you accidently flood and people flip out? [06:39] Thank you. [06:40] floods, quakes, tornados...dogs and cats sleeping together, human sacrifice, mass hysteria! [06:40] joke :D [06:40] He suggested to go to some other channel and he was really cool about it. [06:40] It was on Freenode I think [06:40] LOL [06:41] There wasn't many people around is what I said, but I wasn't trying to be rude. [06:41] He is a cool guy [06:41] I don't want things to sit wrong at all [06:42] We didn't have an arguement [06:42] right on [06:42] What is the ubuntu chat what ever you want channel? [06:43] I mean with in reason of coarse [06:43] there's #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-beginners-team [06:44] but team sounds like the higher up people [06:44] r4y: you could try to find your ULUG [06:44] r4y: that is probably by design. if you want to join the team, that is probably where you want to go [06:44] or hang out (lurk) awhile, and see if you like it and want to contribute [06:44] Team? [06:44] the beginners team [06:45] try to help beginners, spread ubuntu, and more [06:45] Well, I need more time to get the hand of it all. [06:45] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam [06:45] well, you don't have to do it alone :D [06:46] There is so much want to know. I feel lost sometimes [06:46] you could do marketing, documentation...whatever you can to help give back [06:46] i feel you. [06:47] i am learning to slow down, relax, try to get smoother [08:14] 8/j #irrlicht [08:14] mt [08:36] anyone here who can explain how I install mozilla sunbird ? [08:36] I have dloaded the packages [08:36] but I'm rusty on the installation commands [08:37] dont think it is in the apt-get repositories [08:37] so I have to do it manually / commandline [08:38] do I have to do the "make dep" procedure and so on? [08:40] What's the name of the file you downloaded? === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su [09:13] geirha: good question :) [09:14] I'll have to look. its a bzh archive I think. I used the usual package manger I think [09:14] sunbird-1.0b1.tar.bz2 [09:15] Ah, well then it's hard to say what it may contain. Just extract it somewhere, then look for a README or INSTALL file, and read that. [09:16] thanks :) I plain forgot there usually follows a install readme text :) [09:16] my bad [09:16] :) [09:17] zid: It's alright......we also sometimes forget the usual stuff...at least me :P [09:20] oops. the readme just contains a link to their homepage. the faq does not have any installation walkthrough for linux though... [09:20] Bastards <_<" [09:21] should I move the whole unpacked directory to the etc catalogue and try to run the binary? [09:22] I don't know...I'm in class.... geirha? [09:23] zid: What other files are in it? [09:23] okay lets see [09:24] lib.so files, binaries, sh files and so on [09:24] zid: Is there an install.sh? [09:24] Ah, so it's prebuilt [09:24] yes [09:24] I think so [09:24] .sh files are bash scripts....they would install the program for ya [09:25] run-mozilla.sh [09:25] ah [09:25] No, .sh files are sh scripts, though sometimes people wrongly name bash scripts with .sh extension. [09:25] I just type from command line ? [09:27] If there's an executable file named sunbird, try that. [09:27] I did but no reaction from the prog [09:28] Hm. Try running it from the terminal then, maybe it'll give you a message about what's wrong. [09:29] ah [09:29] yes [09:30] there clearly is a sunbird executable but when I run it even as root it says command not found [09:30] but again, the directory is not placed in the etc catalogue [09:30] zid: That usually means you are trying to run a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system, without having 32-bit libraries installed. [09:31] that might be it yes [09:31] etc? that's not a place to put a program [09:31] /opt would be more suitable [09:31] ah, okay I thought that was where linux placed all the progs [09:31] okay [09:31] No /etc only has the config. Programs are spread all over the system, usually. [09:32] In this case, it seems like it's packaged windows-style ... all files in one dir. [09:32] /opt is usually preferred for such programs. [09:32] ah [09:33] but how would I copy a program as root and still retain the rights to execute it? [09:33] I dont think I'm allowed to even create a folder in the opt directory unles I'm root [09:33] I dont think I'm allowed to even create a folder in the opt directory unless I'm root [09:33] chmod +x file [09:34] zid: cd /opt && sudo tar jxf /path/to/sunbird-1.0b1.tar.bz2 [09:34] ah, but should I really chmod any of the system directories? [09:34] ah thanks [09:34] i would prefer /usr/local/bin for owwn programs [09:34] im having problem installing rad 7.0 [09:34] A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be available in order to run IBMIM. No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /opt/IBM/InstallationManager/eclipse/jre_5.0.3.sr8a_20080811b/jre/bin/java [09:34] bio: exactly [09:34] zid: Then sudoedit /etc/environment and add /opt/sunbird to PATH [09:34] no need to add /opt to path and yadda yadda [09:34] /usr/local/bin ... forgot all about it :) [09:35] thanx geirha [09:35] and bio [09:35] :) [09:35] /opt is slowaris lusers :D [09:35] bioterror: Well, this is a windows-style package [09:35] for [09:35] bioterror: All files and libraries in one dir [09:35] okay [09:35] disgusting [09:35] ah, no, there are some subdirectories here as well. forgot tomention [09:35] no deb for it? [09:36] zid: Yes, I assumed as much, but that doesn't change anything. [09:36] components dictionaries and modules sub-directories and a few others [09:36] ok [09:38] The change to /etc/environment will not take effect until you log in again, but after you've logged in again, you can start it by just running "sunbird" [09:38] theres no deb package for sunbird? its mozilla [09:39] no sunbird did not respond to apt get [09:39] However, you first need to fix the "command not found" error. Either find a 64-bit package of it, or install the 32-bit libs (I don't remember what those packages are called) [09:39] im using phone atm, but i bet theres a ppa for it [09:39] apt-get did not responod to sunbird :) [09:39] k [09:39] howabout google for sunbird ppa [09:40] helloooo [09:42] hm. some of the google refrences state that one should be able to just type sunbird to run it [09:42] but the 32 64 issue might have something crucial to do with it yes [09:43] sure I dloaded the 32bit version [09:43] zid: And file /bin/bash says 64-bit, right? [09:43] Ile have to look [09:44] uname -a [09:44] tells your systems bit [09:44] yup [09:44] ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped [09:45] Linux zid 2.6.35-26-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Sun Jan 30 08:27:58 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux [09:45] Oh, you do have 32-bit system, so you tried to run it without specifying a path, then? [09:45] I.e. sunbird instead of ./sunbird [09:45] perhaps. I tried to run it from command line from its directory [09:45] ah [09:45] yup [09:45] zid: PATH=$PATH:/opt/sunbird [09:46] sunbird [09:46] That'll add it to PATH in your current terminal. [09:46] The change to /etc/environment makes it permanent ... as soon as you log back in. [09:47] ah there! it started using ./sunbird from the directory yes :) [09:47] k [09:47] thanks [09:47] thanks guys [09:55] hello all total newb here wondering about what I think is driver support [09:58] I have been play'n around for ever try'n to get ubuntu10.10 to run on my desktop and from searching I am pretty sure it is driver for my graphics card. It'll boot sometimes with GUI and not at all most others I can still ssh it and run commands from another comp [10:23] hello [10:50] duanedesign, upgrade should be OK [10:51] only remark I have is if you have autohide enabled in the Unity plugin, turn it off [10:51] else the panel with spuriously hide / show itself [10:51] in a rather violent way. {:-D [10:52] on the bright side of things... [10:53] bow chika wow wow for FF4.0 theme :D [10:59] super key -> open unity menu could get seriously annoying though [11:21] hello [11:21] im starting to use ubuntu quite recently [11:22] i like it but i found a bit slow for my old P4, i understand that people can make [11:23] their own distros, would someone point me to where to start to look to make my own ? [11:23] thanks [11:28] mongox: If you want to go for a light version of ubuntu then you can go for lubuntu. [11:29] lubuntu, im going to google that, ta! [11:29] For creating your own distro, I think you should know packaging and use some iso creating software . [11:29] I am not sure about creating distro . [11:30] ok, so is like hardcore uisers only ? [11:31] +1 on Lubuntu [11:32] lubuntu is very nice and perfect for older computers [11:32] also the Beginners team has a lot of Lubuntu users so you can get plenty of help with Lubuntu here :) [11:32] mongox: ^ [11:32] in cases like this that i want to try something else, i have to delete the partition and crete everything again or there is any way to "upgrade" to say in a way [11:35] good question [11:35] it is possible... [11:36] mongox: let me see if i can find a sane way for you to do that === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:38] to be honest i do have 2 old pc one is without cd drive / floppy .. and is xubuntu running on it.. [11:39] and the only way to install something is trought the network card (it took me a week ) lol [11:39] this shall do; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors [11:39] Hai JoeMaverickSett :) [11:40] Lubuntu ppa? :P [11:40] hey MrChrisDruif [11:40] How's it going JoeMaverickSett? [11:41] look quite simple even for a noob, thanks [11:41] mongox: no problem :) [11:43] mongox: ok [11:43] mongox: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends [11:44] duanedesign: First install ppa right? O:-) [11:44] mongox: then: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde [11:45] MrChrisDruif: it is in the regular repo, i think [11:45] no need for the repo [11:45] I mean ppa repos [11:45] duanedesign is that after the installation then ? [11:47] mongox: what I would do is install the lubuntu-desktop. Then reboot. You will have the option at the bottom (when you put in password) to select LXDE [11:47] I would not [11:47] mongox: then work on getting rid of the gnome stuff [11:47] oops [11:47] menu's are full of gnome crap :D [11:47] lol [11:47] my last line was going to be "but we should ask bioterror " ;) [11:48] but yeah [11:48] you're actually right [11:48] boot into LXDE and then run the line from psychocats [11:48] I'm a little slow atm. as I am having a phone conference with my team mates [11:48] cool [11:48] WORK TEAM [11:48] something I get paid for :D [11:48] no worries, there is lag too [11:49] ok, im going to try this (would be back in liek 3 hours ) lol [11:49] mongox, keep safe! [11:49] stay away from rave music! O: [11:49] hahaha [12:16] my pidgin crashes on my netbook when i needit the most.. lol [12:17] ok i was installing in the other room following the 1st link, the installation ask me something about video mode ? or something ? [12:17] i just press [enter] that means if i dont have video i choose the wrong option ? [12:22] hello mongox [12:33] im following the psychocat instructions, give me a couple of errors, but i guess is tring to delete some stuff and if is not there aimrite? [12:34] usually you see the errors ;) [12:35] i guess when you install and see errors you should care , not nao [12:39] ok It did not take 3 hours to follow everything , let see the breakneck speed of lubuntu on this pc from the last century [12:42] when you installed lubuntu, you technically installed a 10k RPM scsi drive and quad socket mobo with four xeon's each running 4 cores and 132GB of RAM ;) [12:44] in that case im going to rip the lame sticker that say "designed for microsoft windows 2000 profesional " [12:44] :D [12:45] im going to open a tab with youtube and find a video of CRYSIS to se how it runns [12:59] mongox_v2, does it work? [13:04] seems to me everything is working ok, video & sound, even browsing seems to be better. im just restarting to see booting times [13:05] i just found is not even a p4 is a pIII 1000mhz with 512 of ram, you can ask for miracles here [13:06] my brother told me to try puppy linux but im not sure is worth the hassle [13:10]