[00:30] <jasono> Hi. How do I remove Kubuntu if I have that and Ubuntu installed together?
[00:32] <MrChrisDruif> jasono: USC > kubuntu-desktop remove
[00:33] <jasono> usI don't understand MrChrisDruif
[00:33] <MrChrisDruif> USC = Ubuntu Software Center :)
[00:34] <MrChrisDruif> Or sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop should work as well...s/purge/autoremove if you want to keep the config files (don't do it ;))
[00:34] <jasono> So sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu?
[00:34] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, why not?
[00:35] <MrChrisDruif> You are ubuntu right?
[00:35] <jasono> Yeah.
[00:35] <jasono> Want to keep Ubuntu but remove Ubuntu.
[00:35] <MrChrisDruif> Well....removing kubuntu should give no problem afaik
[00:35] <MrChrisDruif> *remove Kubuntu*
[00:36] <jasono> Thank you.
[00:36] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome :)
[00:36] <MrChrisDruif> But I really need to go....otherwise I'll fall in sleep on my sofa :P
[00:37] <MrChrisDruif> UTC+1 :(
[00:37] <jasono> :P Bye MrChrisDruif
[00:38] <MrChrisDruif> Thnaks
[00:38] <jasono> Enjoy.
[03:05] <c-unit> can u tell me if i can create the dev/mixer file?
[03:07] <jwhisnant> how can I change the maverick netbook desktop theme look and feel back to the one from lucid ? or can I ?
[03:07] <aveilleux> c-unit: The /dev/mixer file is a "pseudo-file"... that is, it's not really a "file" per se, but a representation of the mixer hardware in the file system.
[03:07] <aveilleux> jwhisnant: On login, after clicking your name, select "GNOME" in the "Sessions" dropdown (Instead of Unity)
[03:08] <c-unit> and what can i do if a program is askinf for it
[03:08] <aveilleux> c-unit: Which program?
[03:08] <c-unit> conky
[03:08] <c-unit> to use the mixer variables
[03:09] <aveilleux> c-unit: I know next to nothing about conky, but I suspect that if you don't have a /dev/mixer then your audio hardware doesn't support the methods that conky uses
[03:09] <aveilleux> c-unit: There's also /dev/audio
[03:10] <c-unit> i dont have dev/audio
[03:10] <jwhisnant> aveilleux, not an option
[03:10] <aveilleux> c-unit: Not dev/audio, /dev/audio
[03:10] <c-unit> no
[03:11] <aveilleux> c-unit: ...is your audio hardware installed/working?
[03:11] <c-unit> yes
[03:11] <c-unit> everithing is working
[03:13] <jwhisnant> aveilleux, ubuntu desktop, netbook 2d, netbook edition - i think the gnome session gives the gnome desktop instead of netbook version
[03:13] <jwhisnant> aveilleux, but i will look again ...
[03:14] <aveilleux> jwhisnant: Oh, oh, you want the older Netbook interface... I don't know about that, sorry
[03:15] <jwhisnant> aveilleux, exactly, doing a media center setup, so the desktop is a little small, but works better than the new 10.10 netbook theme, at least for me
[03:27] <r4y> Hello
[03:27] <ddecator> hey r4
[03:27] <ddecator> r4y*
[03:29] <r4y> I am wondering, would my modem and not just my router be set to a certain channel?
[03:29] <r4y> Everytime our phone is being used my internet connection drops
[03:30] <r4y> which is a wireless phone hooked into the landline
[03:30] <r4y> I should try changing the channel my router is using.
[03:31] <r4y> I originally changed channels because routers are set to channel 6 so I set my router to channel 1
[03:31] <r4y> I meant routers are set by default to channel 6
[03:32] <r4y> So back to my question to make it more clear:
[03:32] <r4y> Are modems set to a channel?, I would guess so.
[03:33] <r4y> I should try to find out what channel our wireless phone uses
[03:33] <ddecator> so you think the wireless is interfering?
[03:34] <r4y> I should also look at where I put the filter I put on for Majic Jack which we aren't using anymore
[03:34] <r4y> yes
[03:35] <r4y> We bought a cheap filter, but that couldn't be it because I can torrent as much as I did before.
[03:35] <r4y> I am going to look
[03:35] <ddecator> the router should function within a specified frequency range, which should interfere with any other wireless devices (unless there are a bunch of routers in the area). not really sure why a wireless phone would cause the connection to drop (i don't know off-hand what frequency range each is required by law to use)
[03:35] <ddecator> which shouldn't interfere with any other wireless devices*
[04:03] <c-unit> how can i compile a kernel?
[04:04] <head_victim> c-unit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile is a good place to start. Never tried myself though
[04:05] <c-unit> thnks i'll give it a try
[04:29] <sdollins> hihi.
[04:29] <sdollins> I was here whining about my laptop randomly pasting a while back.
[04:29] <sdollins> I have discovered the problem i believe.
[04:29] <bioterror> I can recall
[04:30] <sdollins> It is middle clicking :(
[04:30] <bioterror> yes it is
[04:30] <bioterror> that's default settings in X
[04:30] <bioterror> :D
[04:30] <sdollins> I have no clue why though lol.
[04:30] <aveilleux> sdollins: Yeah, middle-click's been the default paste behavior in BASH for a while
[04:30] <bioterror> if you just select with your mouse some text, it will be copied to X's clipboard and middle button pastes
[04:30] <bioterror> aveilleux, bash?
[04:30] <sdollins> Well that's not the problem, I'm aware it does that.
[04:31] <sdollins> I just don't know why it's middle clicking.
[04:31] <aveilleux> bioterror: I've noticed that behavior when SSH'ing as well.
[04:31] <aveilleux> sdollins: It's traditionally been the shortcut.
[04:31] <sdollins> It seems to do it when I touch the touchpad in a very weird way.
[04:31] <bioterror> aveilleux, you paste text randomly to irc or what?
[04:31] <sdollins> which i happen to do while typing hehe.
[04:32] <aveilleux> bioterror: I don't randomly paste, I just middle-click to paste lol
[04:32] <bioterror> aveilleux, what that has to do with bash or ssh?
[04:32] <aveilleux> sdollins: Are you using regular Ubuntu? Or a variant like K/Xubuntu?
[04:32] <sdollins> Ubuntu
[04:32] <sdollins> Is there a way to just disable middle click?
[04:32] <aveilleux> bioterror: That's the behavior it exhibits. Even older AIX machines do it.
[04:32] <bioterror> aveilleux, as I said: it's in the X11
[04:33] <aveilleux> sdollins: Yep. hang on while I boot my laptop, it's the one that has the program installed
[04:33] <sdollins> oki :>
[04:33] <aveilleux> bioterror: The AIX boxes in question are not running X11.
[04:33] <sdollins> I love this channel <3
[04:33] <bioterror> aveilleux, their graphical envinroment uses the same feature
[04:33] <aveilleux> bioterror: There is no graphical environment.
[04:33] <seidos> sdollins: me too :)
[04:34] <sdollins> If the netsplits didn't make me crazy, I'd idle here.
[04:34] <bioterror> aveilleux, did you GPM pastes too from the mouse button #3
[04:34] <bioterror> you know
[04:34] <seidos> are the netsplits that bad?  i don't even notice them
[04:35] <sdollins> Well in the bigger channels, yes.
[04:35] <bioterror> this is a small channel
[04:35] <bioterror> only 68
[04:35] <sdollins> Yes, I see that now.
[04:35] <sdollins> #ubuntu is like awful when they happen.
[04:35] <aveilleux> sdollins: Install the gpointing-device-settings package
[04:36] <aveilleux> sdollins: It'll be under System > Preferences > Pointing Devices
[04:36] <sdollins> thank you very much
[04:38] <sdollins> I don't see a setting for middle click o.o
[06:11] <r4y> Hello
[06:11] <r4y> My internet connection is bad
[06:11] <r4y> I just don't know what to do
[06:12] <r4y> I just went into my router to change the channel to channel 11
[06:12] <r4y> However, 2.4GHz is the channel the wireless phone uses
[06:13] <r4y> I am wondering about tomato as replacement for the firmware on my Linksys wireless router
[06:14] <r4y> Can it change to an even higher channel?
[06:14] <r4y> My router is a WRT64G
[06:14] <r4y> linksys router
[06:14] <aveilleux> r4y: It'd be a lot easier to just get a 5.2GHz phone
[06:15] <aveilleux> r4y: All modern cordless phones operate on a different frequency than wireless network devices
[06:15] <r4y> Hmm, I wonder if we have a wireless phone for that frequency.
[06:15] <aveilleux> r4y: All phones made in the past five years operate on that frequency.
[06:15] <r4y> So, it must be an older phone then
[06:16] <aveilleux> r4y: Go to Radioshack or something anf get a new one
[06:16] <r4y> Thank you for telling me
[06:16] <r4y> It's raining here
[06:16] <seidos> i have an older phone that works fine
[06:16] <seidos> too bad you couldn't save your money
[06:16] <bioterror> r4y, I hope not men :D
[06:17] <r4y> I don't the joke?
[06:17] <r4y> I don't get the joke?
[06:18] <r4y> It's not raining men
[06:18] <r4y> you must be talking about the song, LOL
[06:18] <bioterror> yep :D
[06:18] <r4y> I hope it's not raining women either, poor women
[06:19] <r4y> or cats. Rarrr!, hisss
[06:20] <bioterror> :D
[06:23] <r4y> As for filters. We have a splitter that has a wire running from it to the modem, and the other wire from the splitter goes to the phone and between the phone and the splitter we have a filter for the phone.
[06:24] <r4y> I tried this command and it didn't help me earlier:"sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[06:24] <r4y> I guess that command with be useful at another time
[06:25] <bioterror> you can do it nowdays: sudo service networking restart" ;)
[06:25] <bioterror> that's "ubuntu way" :D
[06:25] <r4y> Without the *star*
[06:25] <r4y> oo[ps
[06:25] <r4y> oops
[06:26] <bioterror> oh without "
[06:26] <r4y> sorry that is a quote
[06:26] <bioterror> :D
[06:26] <r4y> OK, great I will save that as the other way
[06:26] <r4y> Great
[06:27] <r4y> Thank you
[06:28] <r4y> I even made note that one is the linux way and the other is the ubuntu way.
[06:28] <r4y> Ubuntu is great
[06:28] <r4y> Linux is great
[06:28] <r4y> Distros are us
[06:28] <r4y> just kidding
[06:29] <r4y> sorry for being corny
[06:30] <r4y> That will be useful to me
[06:31] <seidos> it's cool that you're enthusiastic :D
[06:32] <r4y> What OS does duanedesign use?, I would he has Ubuntu, but under his commands for the program CLI Companion he had the command I posted.
[06:32] <seidos> sudo service networking restart was probably just added
[06:32] <r4y> OK
[06:32] <seidos> to like 10.10 or something
[06:33] <r4y> Well, I am using 10.04 but OK
[06:33] <seidos> whatever works r4y
[06:33] <seidos> if sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart works, then keep using it
[06:33] <r4y> OK
[06:34] <r4y> I want to know more about flooding
[06:34] <seidos> why?
[06:34] <seidos> is there a problem with floods where you live?
[06:34] <r4y> I didn't completely get what MrChris was trying to tell me
[06:34] <r4y> No, I meant on IRC
[06:34] <seidos> flooding is just sending too much text over IRC
[06:35] <r4y> Does that include post a single line that is a link to a pastebin
[06:35] <seidos> r4y: do you think it includes that?
[06:35] <r4y> Does pastebin get flooded?
[06:36] <seidos> i believe not
[06:37] <r4y> He seemed to disagree with what I was saying and I just stated what you said. Maybe I just didn't word it right
[06:37] <r4y> That was yesterday
[06:38] <r4y> You guys are all cool. I just wanted to make sure my understanding is right
[06:39] <seidos> you seem to be doing fine to me.
[06:39] <seidos> i'm not sure why you're so worried about it.
[06:39] <seidos> did you accidently flood and people flip out?
[06:39] <r4y> Thank you.
[06:40] <seidos> floods, quakes, tornados...dogs and cats sleeping together, human sacrifice, mass hysteria!
[06:40] <seidos> joke :D
[06:40] <r4y> He suggested to go to some other channel and he was really cool about it.
[06:40] <r4y> It was on Freenode I think
[06:40] <r4y> LOL
[06:41] <r4y> There wasn't many people around is what I said, but I wasn't trying to be rude.
[06:41] <r4y> He is a cool guy
[06:41] <r4y> I don't want things to sit wrong at all
[06:42] <r4y> We didn't have an arguement
[06:42] <seidos> right on
[06:42] <r4y> What is the ubuntu chat what ever you want channel?
[06:43] <r4y> I mean with in reason of coarse
[06:43] <seidos> there's #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-beginners-team
[06:44] <r4y> but team sounds like the higher up people
[06:44] <seidos> r4y: you could try to find your ULUG
[06:44] <seidos> r4y: that is probably by design.  if you want to join the team, that is probably where you want to go
[06:44] <seidos> or hang out (lurk) awhile, and see if you like it and want to contribute
[06:44] <r4y> Team?
[06:44] <seidos> the beginners team
[06:45] <seidos> try to help beginners, spread ubuntu, and more
[06:45] <r4y> Well, I need more time to get the hand of it all.
[06:45] <seidos> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[06:45] <seidos> well, you don't have to do it alone :D
[06:46] <r4y> There is so much  want to know. I feel lost sometimes
[06:46] <seidos> you could do marketing, documentation...whatever you can to help give back
[06:46] <seidos> i feel you.
[06:47] <seidos> i am learning to slow down, relax, try to get smoother
[08:14] <bwright> 8/j #irrlicht
[08:14] <bwright> mt
[08:36] <zid> anyone here who can explain how I install mozilla sunbird ?
[08:36] <zid> I have dloaded the packages
[08:36] <zid> but I'm rusty on the installation commands
[08:37] <zid> dont think it is in the apt-get repositories
[08:37] <zid> so I have to do it manually / commandline
[08:38] <zid> do I have to do the "make dep" procedure and so on?
[08:40] <geirha> What's the name of the file you downloaded?
[09:13] <zid> geirha: good question :)
[09:14] <zid> I'll have to look.  its a bzh archive I think. I used the usual package manger I think
[09:14] <zid> sunbird-1.0b1.tar.bz2
[09:15] <geirha> Ah, well then it's hard to say what it may contain. Just extract it somewhere, then look for a README or INSTALL file, and read that.
[09:16] <zid> thanks :)  I plain forgot there usually follows a install readme text :)
[09:16] <zid> my bad
[09:16] <zid> :)
[09:17] <MrChrisDruif> zid: It's alright......we also sometimes forget the usual stuff...at least me :P
[09:20] <zid> oops. the readme just contains a link to their homepage. the faq does not have any installation walkthrough for linux though...
[09:20] <MrChrisDruif> Bastards <_<"
[09:21] <zid> should I move the whole unpacked directory to the etc catalogue and try to run the binary?
[09:22] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know...I'm in class.... geirha?
[09:23] <geirha> zid: What other files are in it?
[09:23] <zid> okay lets see
[09:24] <zid> lib.so files, binaries, sh files and so on
[09:24] <MrChrisDruif> zid: Is there an install.sh?
[09:24] <geirha> Ah, so it's prebuilt
[09:24] <zid> yes
[09:24] <zid> I think so
[09:24] <MrChrisDruif> .sh files are bash scripts....they would install the program for ya
[09:25] <zid> run-mozilla.sh
[09:25] <zid> ah
[09:25] <geirha> No, .sh files are sh scripts, though sometimes people wrongly name bash scripts with .sh extension.
[09:25] <zid> I just type from command line ?
[09:27] <geirha> If there's an executable file named sunbird, try that.
[09:27] <zid> I did but no reaction from the prog
[09:28] <geirha> Hm. Try running it from the terminal then, maybe it'll give you a message about what's wrong.
[09:29] <zid> ah
[09:29] <zid> yes
[09:30] <zid> there clearly is a sunbird executable but when I run it even as root it says command not found
[09:30] <zid> but again, the directory is not placed in the etc catalogue
[09:30] <geirha> zid: That usually means you are trying to run a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system, without having 32-bit libraries installed.
[09:31] <zid> that might be it yes
[09:31] <geirha> etc? that's not a place to put a program
[09:31] <geirha> /opt would be more suitable
[09:31] <zid> ah, okay I thought that was where linux placed all the progs
[09:31] <zid> okay
[09:31] <geirha> No /etc only has the config. Programs are spread all over the system, usually.
[09:32] <geirha> In this case, it seems like it's packaged windows-style ... all files in one dir.
[09:32] <geirha> /opt is usually preferred for such programs.
[09:32] <zid> ah
[09:33] <zid> but how would I copy a program as root and still retain the rights to execute it?
[09:33] <zid> I dont think I'm allowed to even create a folder in the opt directory unles I'm root
[09:33] <zid> I dont think I'm allowed to even create a folder in the opt directory unless I'm root
[09:33] <bioterror> chmod +x file
[09:34] <geirha> zid: cd /opt && sudo tar jxf /path/to/sunbird-1.0b1.tar.bz2
[09:34] <zid> ah, but should I really chmod any of the system directories?
[09:34] <zid> ah thanks
[09:34] <bioterror> i would prefer /usr/local/bin for owwn programs
[09:34] <Reckless> im having problem installing rad 7.0
[09:34] <Reckless> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be available in order to run IBMIM. No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /opt/IBM/InstallationManager/eclipse/jre_5.0.3.sr8a_20080811b/jre/bin/java
[09:34] <zid> bio: exactly
[09:34] <geirha> zid: Then    sudoedit /etc/environment   and add   /opt/sunbird   to PATH
[09:34] <bioterror> no need to add /opt to path and yadda yadda
[09:34] <zid> /usr/local/bin ... forgot all about it :)
[09:35] <zid> thanx geirha
[09:35] <zid> and bio
[09:35] <zid> :)
[09:35] <bioterror> /opt is slowaris lusers :D
[09:35] <geirha> bioterror: Well, this is a windows-style package
[09:35] <bioterror> for
[09:35] <geirha> bioterror: All files and libraries in one dir
[09:35] <bioterror> okay
[09:35] <bioterror> disgusting
[09:35] <zid> ah, no, there are some subdirectories here as well. forgot tomention
[09:35] <bioterror> no deb for it?
[09:36] <geirha> zid: Yes, I assumed as much, but that doesn't change anything.
[09:36] <zid> components dictionaries and modules sub-directories and a few others
[09:36] <zid> ok
[09:38] <geirha> The change to /etc/environment will not take effect until you log in again, but after you've logged in again, you can start it by just running "sunbird"
[09:38] <bioterror> theres no deb package for sunbird? its mozilla
[09:39] <zid> no sunbird did not respond to apt get
[09:39] <geirha> However, you first need to fix the "command not found" error. Either find a 64-bit package of it, or install the 32-bit libs (I don't remember what those packages are called)
[09:39] <bioterror> im using phone atm, but i bet theres a ppa for it
[09:39] <zid> apt-get did not responod to sunbird :)
[09:39] <zid> k
[09:39] <bioterror> howabout google for sunbird ppa
[09:40] <Reckless> helloooo
[09:42] <zid> hm. some of the google refrences state that one should be able to just type sunbird to run it
[09:42] <zid> but the 32 64 issue might have something crucial to do with it yes
[09:43] <zid> sure I dloaded the 32bit version
[09:43] <geirha> zid: And   file /bin/bash   says 64-bit, right?
[09:43] <zid> Ile have to look
[09:44] <bioterror> uname -a
[09:44] <bioterror> tells your systems bit
[09:44] <zid> yup
[09:44] <zid>  ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[09:45] <zid> Linux zid 2.6.35-26-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Sun Jan 30 08:27:58 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:45] <geirha> Oh, you do have 32-bit system, so you tried to run it without specifying a path, then?
[09:45] <geirha> I.e. sunbird instead of ./sunbird
[09:45] <zid> perhaps. I tried to run it from command line from its directory
[09:45] <zid> ah
[09:45] <zid> yup
[09:45] <geirha> zid: PATH=$PATH:/opt/sunbird
[09:46] <geirha> sunbird
[09:46] <geirha> That'll add it to PATH in your current terminal.
[09:46] <geirha> The change to /etc/environment makes it permanent ... as soon as you log back in.
[09:47] <zid> ah there! it started using ./sunbird from the directory yes :)
[09:47] <zid> k
[09:47] <zid> thanks
[09:47] <zid> thanks guys
[09:55] <Phoenix__> hello all total newb here wondering about what I think is driver support
[09:58] <Phoenix__> I have been play'n around for ever try'n to get ubuntu10.10 to run on my desktop and from searching I am pretty sure it is driver for my graphics card. It'll boot sometimes with GUI and not at all most others I can still ssh it and run commands from another comp
[10:23] <Phoenix__> hello
[10:50] <ibuclaw> duanedesign, upgrade should be OK
[10:51] <ibuclaw> only remark I have is if you have autohide enabled in the Unity plugin, turn it off
[10:51] <ibuclaw> else the panel with spuriously hide / show itself
[10:51] <ibuclaw> in a rather violent way. {:-D
[10:52] <ibuclaw> on the bright side of things...
[10:53] <ibuclaw> bow chika wow wow for FF4.0 theme :D
[10:59] <ibuclaw> super key -> open unity menu could get seriously annoying though
[11:21] <mongox> hello
[11:21] <mongox> im starting to use ubuntu quite recently
[11:22] <mongox> i like it but i found a bit slow for my old P4, i understand that people can make
[11:23] <mongox> their own distros, would someone point me to where to start to look to make my own ?
[11:23] <mongox> thanks
[11:28] <wolfpack> mongox: If you want to go for a light version of ubuntu then you can go for lubuntu.
[11:29] <mongox> lubuntu, im going to google that, ta!
[11:29] <wolfpack> For creating your own distro, I think you should know packaging and use some iso creating software .
[11:29] <wolfpack> I am not sure about creating distro .
[11:30] <mongox> ok, so is like hardcore uisers only ?
[11:31] <duanedesign> +1 on Lubuntu
[11:32] <duanedesign> lubuntu is very nice and perfect for older computers
[11:32] <duanedesign> also the Beginners team has a lot of Lubuntu users so you can get plenty of help with Lubuntu here :)
[11:32] <duanedesign> mongox: ^
[11:32] <mongox> in cases like this that i want to try something else, i have to delete the partition and crete everything again or there is any way to "upgrade" to say in a way
[11:35] <duanedesign> good question
[11:35] <duanedesign> it is possible...
[11:36] <duanedesign> mongox: let me see if i can find a sane way for you to do that
[11:38] <mongox> to be honest i do have 2 old pc one is without cd drive / floppy .. and  is xubuntu running on it..
[11:39] <mongox> and the only way to install something is trought the network card (it took me a week ) lol
[11:39] <JoeMaverickSett> this shall do; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors
[11:39] <MrChrisDruif> Hai JoeMaverickSett :)
[11:40] <MrChrisDruif> Lubuntu ppa? :P
[11:40] <JoeMaverickSett> hey MrChrisDruif
[11:40] <MrChrisDruif> How's it going JoeMaverickSett?
[11:41] <mongox> look quite simple even for a noob, thanks
[11:41] <JoeMaverickSett> mongox: no problem :)
[11:43] <duanedesign> mongox: ok
[11:43] <duanedesign> mongox: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends
[11:44] <MrChrisDruif> duanedesign: First install ppa right? O:-)
[11:44] <duanedesign> mongox: then: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[11:45] <duanedesign> MrChrisDruif: it is in the regular repo, i think
[11:45] <bioterror> no need for the repo
[11:45] <bioterror> I mean ppa repos
[11:45] <mongox> duanedesign is that after the installation then ?
[11:47] <duanedesign> mongox: what I would do is install the lubuntu-desktop. Then reboot. You will have the option at the bottom (when you put in password) to select LXDE
[11:47] <bioterror> I would not
[11:47] <duanedesign> mongox: then work on getting rid of the gnome stuff
[11:47] <duanedesign> oops
[11:47] <bioterror> menu's are full of gnome crap :D
[11:47] <duanedesign> lol
[11:47] <duanedesign> my last line was going to be "but we should ask bioterror " ;)
[11:48] <bioterror> but yeah
[11:48] <bioterror> you're actually right
[11:48] <bioterror> boot into LXDE and then run the line from psychocats
[11:48] <bioterror> I'm a little slow atm. as I am having a phone conference with my team mates
[11:48] <duanedesign> cool
[11:48] <bioterror> WORK TEAM
[11:48] <bioterror> something I get paid for :D
[11:48] <duanedesign> no worries, there is lag too
[11:49] <mongox> ok, im going to try this (would be back in liek 3 hours ) lol
[11:49] <ibuclaw> mongox, keep safe!
[11:49] <ibuclaw> stay away from rave music! O:
[11:49] <bioterror> hahaha
[12:16] <mongox> my pidgin crashes on my netbook when i needit the most.. lol
[12:17] <mongox> ok i was installing in the other room following the 1st link,  the installation ask me something about video mode ? or something ?
[12:17] <mongox> i just press [enter] that means if i dont have video i choose the wrong option ?
[12:22] <duanedesign> hello mongox
[12:33] <mongox_v2> im following the psychocat instructions, give me a couple of errors, but i guess is tring to delete some stuff and if is not there  aimrite?
[12:34] <bioterror> usually you see the errors ;)
[12:35] <mongox_v2> i guess when you install and see errors you should care , not nao
[12:39] <mongox_v2> ok  It did not take 3 hours to follow everything , let see the breakneck speed of lubuntu on this pc from the last century
[12:42] <bioterror> when you installed lubuntu, you technically installed a 10k RPM scsi drive and quad socket mobo with four xeon's each running 4 cores and 132GB of RAM ;)
[12:44] <mongox_v2> in that case im going to rip the lame sticker that say "designed for microsoft windows 2000 profesional "
[12:44] <bioterror> :D
[12:45] <mongox_v2> im going to open a tab with youtube and find a video of CRYSIS to se how it runns
[12:59] <bioterror> mongox_v2, does it work?
[13:04] <mongox_v2> seems to me everything is working ok, video & sound, even browsing seems to be better. im just restarting to see booting times
[13:05] <mongox_v2> i just found is not even a p4 is a pIII 1000mhz with 512 of ram, you can ask for miracles here
[13:06] <mongox_v2> my brother told me to try puppy linux but im not sure is worth the hassle
[13:10] <mongox_v2> you can say whatever you want but this little fella boot faster than my core2duo with win7 :-S
[13:12] <mongox_v2> thanks for the help to all of you guys..
[13:12] <bioterror> hmm
[13:13] <bioterror> mongox_v2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ me and my couple of pals have created something like this
[13:16] <mongox_v2> thanks for that , system is working perfect so far so, i use this pc for browsing and chat and everithing is working ok
[13:16] <bioterror> that's just some fine tuning and so on
[13:17] <bioterror> people tend to ask these things alot, so I decided to make that make :D
[13:18] <mongox_v2> for how long are you been using linux ?
[13:19] <bioterror> since 1998
[13:19] <mongox_v2> i started with ubuntu netbook remix and i love it , and i would like to migrate everithing to linux , i hate m$ with passion and apple too
[13:19] <bioterror> I hate just apple, I tend to like MS ;)
[13:20] <mongox_v2> 1998 hey that is like the fundation of linux or something like that
[13:20] <bioterror> it was Red Hat 5.2 Manhattan
[13:21] <bioterror> I have to say that dialing to internet with 56k modem and using PPP was diffucult back then
[13:22] <mongox_v2> 300 bauds FTW
[13:22] <mongox_v2> i hate m$ i was a DRDOS user
[13:23] <bioterror> Active Directory just works
[13:23] <bioterror> I have nothing against it
[13:23] <udienz> join #ubuntu-beginners-dev
[13:24] <udienz> bah
[13:25] <geirha> bioterror: It has some annoyances though ... like you can't have a group and user by the same name.
[13:25] <bioterror> small things :D
[13:26] <geirha> bioterror: You need a windows server to host it :P
[13:26] <bioterror> sure
[13:26] <mongox_v2> no idea about active directory but sounds old
[13:26] <bioterror> and there's nothing wrong with it
[13:26] <mongox_v2> are you trolling?
[13:26] <bioterror> why would I?
[13:26] <mongox_v2> lol
[13:27] <bioterror> we can move to #ubuntu-beginners-team
[13:27] <bioterror> as offtopic
[13:30] <mongox_v2> back to n00b questions, I got netbook remix 10.04 because when i moved to 10.10 i did not liek the unity thinghy
[13:30] <mongox_v2> i found slow & buggy, there is any improvments or still bad?
[13:31] <geirha> I haven't tried 10.10 yet, other than briefly in vbox. I prefer to stick with LTS releases.
[13:36] <mongox> mm the little pc does not shut down properly
[13:37] <mongox> im not sure if is something permanent , stil  not a big deal tho!
[13:57] <szczur> mongox, what was the problem with not shutting down properly?
[13:58] <mongox> no idea after i shutt down the screen whent black and did not turn off
[13:58] <szczur> hard disks are stopped but pc isn't shutting down?
[13:58] <mongox> i have to doit manual (long press on the power button)
[13:59] <mongox> sort off that i heard the HDD spinning but not working
[13:59] <szczur> please run terminal
[13:59] <mongox> like when is reading/writing
[13:59] <mongox> gimme a sec pc is in the kitchen , brb
[14:00] <szczur> run sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[14:00] <szczur> and in line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[14:00] <szczur> add "acpi=force" after "quiet" word
[14:01] <szczur> so it will look like this
[14:01] <szczur> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet acpi=force"
[14:01] <szczur> save it
[14:01] <szczur> and run sudo update-grub
[14:02] <mongox_v2> sorry i just arrived to the kitchen
[14:02] <mongox_v2> did you send something  ?
[14:02] <szczur> reboot pc, and try to shut down it again
[14:02] <mongox> 2:00:12 PM) szczur: run sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[14:02] <mongox> (2:00:25 PM) szczur: and in line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[14:02] <mongox> (2:00:52 PM) szczur: add "acpi=force" after "quiet" word
[14:02] <mongox> (2:01:26 PM) szczur: so it will look like this
[14:02] <mongox> (2:01:35 PM) szczur: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet acpi=force"
[14:03] <mongox_v2> ok now i know , gimme just a sec
[14:06] <mongox_v2> [N00B] question no GEDIT the lubuntu equivalent [/SOrry]
[14:07] <szczur> ahhh, leafpad
[14:07] <mongox_v2> K
[18:09] <tenach> Is there a performance boost on a netbook when using NBR rather than standard desktop?
[18:13] <Cheri703> that's a really good question...I'd be curious to know the actual answer, but if I had to guess, I'd think the only things that'd give a performance boost would be graphical differences (no effects, etc)
[18:13] <tenach> Nevermind; I just read that they're merging it with the desktop edition.
[18:13] <tenach> It is going to be discontinued as of 11.04 since desktop is using Unity as well.
[18:13] <Cheri703> I like(d) the 10.04 netbook edition
[18:13] <Cheri703> tried unity when it came out with 10.10, HATED IT, but it was uber buggy
[18:14] <johnny77> Cheri703: tenach: for me unity was just too slow on 10.10.
[18:15] <tenach> I opted for desktop rather than NBR because I don't like how the netbook Unity is laid out.
[18:15] <charlie-tca> I think unity on 10.10 was using mutter, unity on 11.04 is using compiz, it seems to matter
[18:15] <tenach> Yeah.
[18:15] <tenach> I'm glad they're going to compiz...
[18:16] <johnny77> in 11.04 they are going to use compiz?
[18:16] <charlie-tca> yes, unity in Natty is using compiz
[18:18] <tenach> I'm glad, it makes it more consistent with how Ubuntu has been running (at least, with GNOME).
[18:27] <tenach> Alright, another question: Does anyone have ACPI working on a Dell Inspiron Mini 10?
[18:47] <johnny77> How do I turn up my microphone volume?
[18:47] <holstein> you can look in alsamixer
[18:47] <holstein> from the terminal
[18:48] <holstein> also, you can install pavucontrol
[18:49] <johnny77> holstein: in alsamixer, I have mic boost, capture and digital and they are all about maxed.
[18:49] <holstein> johnny77: that might be all she's got
[18:51] <johnny77> could my microphone be muted?
[18:51] <holstein> sure
[18:51] <johnny77> how do I check?
[18:51] <holstein> johnny77: dont trust those labels either
[18:51] <holstein> in pulse or alsamixer
[18:51] <holstein> johnny77: in the buisness, the offical way to test a mic is to tap on it ;)
[18:53] <holstein> actually, dont tap on the 5 thousand dollar ribbon mics
[18:54] <johnny77> how do I unmute something?
[18:54] <holstein> did you install pavucontrol?
[18:54] <johnny77> no, only alsamixer
[18:55] <johnny77> installing now.
[18:56] <johnny77> holstein: done installing pavucontrol
[18:56] <holstein> cool, i think you got more options with it
[18:57] <holstein> its not JACK, but it'll do
[19:01] <johnny77> holstein: is there some kind of sound recorder in ubuntu that I can test the input
[19:02] <holstein> gnome-sound-recorder
[19:02] <holstein> audacity
[19:03] <holstein> all kinds of stuff really
[19:05] <johnny77> holstein: thanks for your help.
[19:05] <holstein> johnny77: anytime
[19:05] <holstein> it can be challening
[19:05] <holstein> because of the labels and all
[19:05] <holstein> johnny77: did you get it sorted?
[19:06] <johnny77> holstein: getting sound but it's super quiet. :(
[19:06] <holstein> what mic?
[19:06] <holstein> hardware
[19:06] <holstein> ?
[19:06] <holstein> on a laptop ?
[19:06] <johnny77> I have a netbook that has a built in mic, but i've also been playing around with a couple of mics I had laying around.
[19:07] <holstein> my built in mic works well
[19:07] <holstein> asus EEE 1001p
[19:07] <holstein> i plug a stereo mic in though
[19:07] <holstein> and the gain is low
[19:07] <holstein> i have an external preamp though
[19:07] <holstein> just for that purpose
[19:08] <johnny77> i was trying to use skype so it could be that too.
[19:08] <holstein> what are you trying to do?
[19:08] <holstein> usually, the internal mic will do the job
[19:09] <holstein> unless you need a headset or something
[19:09] <johnny77> I'm just trying to talk to someone through skype and they said I was super quiet
[19:09] <holstein> yeah
[19:09] <holstein> tell them to turn up the volume ;)
[19:10] <holstein> johnny77: the skype test call can be helpful
[19:10] <johnny77> ttrue.
[19:10] <holstein> theres not really an easier way to do it though
[19:11] <holstein> johnny77: its usually just fiddly like that
[19:11] <mtkorb> My 10.04 boot stops and gives the message "ureadahead main process (312) terminated with status 5." On launchpad, someone said this error is caused by having /var mounted on a separate partition. This is my case (actually on a different drive altogether), but how do I fix it?
[19:12] <holstein> johnny77: in pavucontrol
[19:12] <holstein> you should see in the 'input devices' tab
[19:12] <holstein> a read out
[19:12] <holstein> when you tap on the mic
[19:12] <holstein> and there is a level control
[19:12] <holstein> jack that up and see what happens
[19:12] <holstein> and i usually tell skype not to automatically control my settings
[19:13] <johnny77> I was playing with that... but it didn't seem to help. It's ok... no big deal. Thank you.
[19:18] <Isidore> Gi
[19:18] <Isidore> Hi there, i am looking for some help with a Wubi installation of 10.10
[19:25] <ssk_the_gr8> need help
[19:29] <hakimsheriff> If you need help, just ask
[19:30] <ssk_the_gr8> k
[19:30] <hakimsheriff> Saying I need help won't really help at all
[19:30] <ssk_the_gr8> so i'm installing ubuntu 64 bit in a new partation of 100gb
[19:30] <ssk_the_gr8> can i acces my windows ntfs partation from ubuntu?
[20:05] <raubvogel> If someome mentions a test package is in ppa:serge-hallyn/ipmi, how do I get to it?
[20:10] <holstein> raubvogel: you can add that PPA
[20:10] <holstein> is you wish
[20:10] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/ipmi
[20:11] <holstein> you can navigate to /pool as well
[20:11] <holstein> http://ppa.launchpad.net/serge-hallyn/ipmi/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openipmi/
[20:11] <holstein> and DL the .deb
[20:11] <holstein> ssk_the_gr8: that should be no problem
[20:12] <raubvogel> Thanks holstein! I promised I was going to try i tou tbut realized I di dnot know how to get it :)
[20:12] <mtkorb> My 10.04 boot fails with "ureadahead main process (312) terminated with status 5." Anyone know what this means? I've checked launchpad bugs and ubuntuforums and can't get a definitive answer.
[20:12] <holstein> hey mtkorb
[20:12] <holstein> is that all the output you get?
[20:16] <mtkorb> holstein: yeah, nothing else gets printed at all.
[20:20] <holstein> mtkorb: try an older kernel
[20:42] <mtkorb> holstein: i think it has to do with my /var being in a different partition. I'm gonna boot with a USB drive and take a look. thanks though.
[20:44] <raubvogel>  mtkorb, holstein, I have the same problem and AFAIK it is a bug
[20:44] <raubvogel> Great way to duplicate it is install ubuntu with /var being part of / and then set it on its own partition
[23:25] <tenach> Broadcom B43, Broadcom STA both won't let me connect to my wireless network (ubuntu 10.10, dell mini 10)... i've also tried some where I need to use cli to install, but none of them are letting me connect to any router. Anyone else have this problem?
[23:25] <tenach> I've been Googling with little success.
[23:33] <NRWlion> hey there ... the new guy is back ;)
[23:34] <UndiFineD> :)
[23:35] <NRWlion> UndiFineD, we do already know us :D
[23:36] <NRWlion> UndiFineD, got a minute?
[23:36] <NRWlion> could use some help
[23:36] <UndiFineD> sure
[23:36] <NRWlion> i am writing that Mail to introduce me to the team and would appreciate it if some1 could read it proof ...
[23:36] <UndiFineD> oh ok :)
[23:37] <NRWlion> just if you do not have any other projects waiting
[23:37] <NRWlion> !paste
[23:37] <ubot2> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[23:38] <UndiFineD> UndiFineD@gmail.com
[23:41] <UndiFineD> NRWlion: you missed the link to your wiki, which needs updating too on your LP page
[23:41] <UndiFineD> I would say: sehr gut
[23:42] <NRWlion> well then i will give it a try ^^
[23:42] <NRWlion> link to wiki will be added ;) thx for proof reading ;)
[23:43] <UndiFineD> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UndiFineD
[23:49] <NRWlion> crap. my mail client is crashed
[23:49] <NRWlion> i wasnt able to safe the text of the mail
[23:49] <NRWlion> :(
[23:49] <NRWlion> UndiFineD, could you please resent my mail to jens.leineweber@gmail.com?
[23:50] <UndiFineD> sure
[23:50] <UndiFineD> btw I only use gmail
[23:50] <NRWlion> thx a lot
[23:51] <NRWlion> gmail is my RL-Work Account
[23:52] <NRWlion> UndiFineD, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nrwlion
[23:53] <NRWlion> thx alot UndiFineD just got the mail
[23:53] <UndiFineD> you will have it twice
[23:53] <UndiFineD> as I replied initially
[23:54] <NRWlion> doesnt matter
[23:54] <NRWlion> i will cancel that freenet account
[23:54] <NRWlion> and than use my gmail for work here
[23:56] <UndiFineD> freenet :)
[23:56] <NRWlion> i call it for the moment. need to get some rest
[23:57] <UndiFineD> I use miredo
[23:57] <NRWlion> already awake since 0400 utc yesterday
[23:57] <NRWlion> gn8 every1