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doctormopopey: I'll have to come back to it, I'm under the weather at the moment and liable to set fire to projects.00:16
popeyheh00:17
popeywant some help?00:17
popeyor, wait till after the weekend when you probably feel better :)00:17
doctormopopey: Lets wait for monday, I'm hoping the sniffles will have gone too by then.00:19
popeycoolio00:21
jcastro_hey popey02:12
jcastro_how's your unity today?02:12
cjohnston:-(02:13
jcastro_sad face?02:14
cjohnstonmy unity has been crashing my compiz02:14
cjohnstonand i keep getting the partial upgrade message02:14
jcastro_og02:16
jcastro_oh02:16
jcastro_I just updated02:16
jcastro_and everything got upgraded at once02:16
cjohnstonI think it is because of x but im not sure02:17
jcastro_you on -intel?02:20
cjohnstonhave been getting the partial upgrade mesage for 4 days now... last time i did a partial i screwed up the system02:20
jcastro_yeah never do that02:21
cjohnstonyes, intel02:25
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cjohnstonjcastro_: any idea how long till the intel x stuff is fixed?03:22
jcastro_intel is working03:22
jcastro_what's held back?03:22
cjohnstontheres banshee stuff thats unchecked compiz, empathy, indicator apps, linux headers, python stuff.. is that what your talking about?03:24
jcastro_well03:25
jcastro_use apt03:25
jcastro_and just apt-get install pieces individually03:25
jcastro_and make sure it doesn't want to remove important things03:25
cjohnstonok03:25
jcastro_do em one at a type or a few at a time03:26
jcastro_until it resolves itself03:26
jcastro_gtg though, weeds is on03:27
cjohnstonahh.. libreoffice is whats held back03:27
jcastro_if it looks scary don't do it!03:27
cjohnstonlol03:27
cjohnstonit does want to remove empathy03:27
jcastro_yeah I let it remove that for now03:31
JanCif partial upgrades break your system, the package dependencies are wrong...03:37
kim0Morning o/08:02
dpmgood morning all!08:06
kim0dpm: hey morning08:06
dpmhey kim0 :)08:07
kim0;)08:07
dpmbrb, rebooting. Hopefully after the latest unity upgrade I get window decorators again!08:38
dpm\o/ got window decorators back08:43
kim0woohoo :)08:44
dpmyeah, unfortunately compiz crashed like 2 seconds after :/08:45
dpmok, back to normal08:47
dpmooooh the new shortcuts to start apps in unity (Super+<number>) are pretty neat08:58
dpmand I guess very helpful for accessibility08:58
AlanBelldpm: those were in Maverick too, the regression has been fixed!09:26
dpm\o/09:27
dpmI'll just have to figure out what's happened with the old Super+W and Super+A shortcuts, as they've now been replaced to show all workspaces and the applications place, respectively09:28
popeyMorning!09:32
duanedesign'lo all09:38
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czajkowskiAloha11:58
dpmhey czajkowski, how's it going?11:59
czajkowskigood listening to simon phipps11:59
czajkowskialways a great speaker11:59
dpm:)12:00
dpmhey popey, I've just replied to Neil. Just letting you know, as I didn't CC you as you told me not to12:01
popeythank you, much appreciated12:02
duanedesignmorning all12:05
czajkowskihttp://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2011/02/the-open-by-rule-governance-benchmark/index.htm  would like to be able to rate Ubuntu and see how we do12:49
vishsense: i dont think you have to ask someone to leave a comment if they've spotted a mistake.. ;p14:22
sensevish: I wanted to lower the mental barrier a bit further. ;)14:24
vishhaha!14:24
vishgreg-g raises a very interesting issue though; decisions _for_ Ubuntu taken by people not accountable _to_ the community14:25
senseI don't mind a strong discussion, as long as their is a progressing conversation.14:25
sensevish: The handling of this issue by Canonical is indeed a different matter. But I think that the company should be more clear in who controls/owns Ubuntu.14:25
senseI have no problems with them controlling Ubuntu, I think it is very sensible, but they should be clear about it.14:26
* vish nods..14:26
senseOtherwise your raise exception you cannot meet.14:26
senseexpectations14:26
jcastro_cjohnston: PIIIIIIIIIING!14:41
* popey tickles jcastro_ and his tail14:41
vishhehe, someone confused popey to one of the banshee devs also named "alan" ;)14:43
popeywho/where?14:45
vishpopey: on #banshee , not now but last night..14:45
popeyoh14:46
greg-gsense: replied to your comment. Summary of my comment "Thanks for bringing that up, and I totally agree" :)14:56
sensegreg-g: Great! :)14:56
greg-gof course, if you want the more wordy version, check out the full comment ;)14:56
senseI sure will.14:56
senseI'm happy with the constructive posts we see about this issue on the planet.14:57
senseNow you have made me curious to that interview.14:58
greg-gsense: Awesome! It is a great interview. It really helped me think through this situation yesterday.15:02
greg-gthat was part of my goal with that post, to get more people to listen to that interview ;)15:02
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czajkowskiBooo15:32
popeyMOO!15:32
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jonohey all15:39
* popey runs up to jono and gives him a big kiss15:39
popeycan you tell it's UDS sponsorship time? :D15:39
jonolol15:40
jonoyou not going to randomly kiss me anymore when it is not sponsorship time?15:40
jono:-(15:40
jonolol15:40
popey:)15:42
jcastroAlanBell: you know ...15:43
jcastroAlanBell: I was trying to do something yesterday and I was thinking15:44
jcastrowhen we do global jams and ubuntu hour we tell people "hey think of something cool, work on the wiki, etc."15:44
jcastroI was thinking...15:44
jcastro"contribute to ubuntu, DELETE A WIKI PAGE."15:44
AlanBellheh15:44
popeyooo, i like that15:45
* popey goes looking for pages to delete15:45
AlanBelldelete a random fulltextsearch macro15:45
jcastroAlanBell: which brings me to my next question15:45
jcastroAlanBell: is there an easy way to find out which pages haven't been touched by age?15:45
popeyI wrote a thing that did that by grabbing all of /RecentChanges and parsing it :)15:46
* popey nominates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals for deletion!15:46
popeyalong with every page linked from it15:46
popey(scroll down)15:46
jcastropopey: so my idea was generate a list of pages that are crap, sorted by oldest15:46
jcastroand then just tell teams "grab a letter, review, and purge, if not, update"15:47
jcastro"Ireland, do the I's, Ohio, do the O's" etc.15:47
popeythere would be significant frustration on the day (if it was UGJ) as the wiki would crap out for everyone all the time15:47
jcastrowell, not all at once15:48
jcastroubuntu hours spread over time perhaps15:48
czajkowskijcastro: oi leave ireland alone :p15:48
jcastroI is a good letter, it was an example!15:48
* czajkowski hugs jcastro 15:50
popeybah, theme on the wiki is broken so i cant click delete15:50
czajkowskiyou do I have a sense of humor right!15:50
jcastroseriously it took like 20 seconds for that breezy page to show up for me15:50
* AlanBell wonders if delete actually does much on a wiki15:51
jcastrowell, the performance is part of it15:52
jcastrothe "totally crap information that is useless" is the other half15:52
popeyaha! adblock plus was screwing the layout!15:55
popey"Page "UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/AudioInfrastructure" was successfully deleted!"15:57
popeymuhahaha15:57
* popey goes on a deletion spree15:57
jcastropopey: ok so how do you do an "oldest page" list?15:58
popeypass15:58
popeyI just searched today for breezy15:59
popeyfiguring many would be obsolete15:59
popeyand they are15:59
popeyprobably some warty ones too15:59
jcastroah15:59
popeyi did do it in the past with RecentChanges16:00
popeybut its quite slow/painful16:00
jcastroindeed16:00
dholbachok my friends - I call it a day16:01
dholbachhave a great weekend everyone16:01
dholbachand see you on monday16:01
dholbachdeveloper week monday! :)16:01
dholbachyoohooo16:01
* dholbach hugs you all16:01
czajkowskidholbach: bye16:08
popeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda?action=diff16:09
dholbachbye16:10
czajkowskiohh16:14
popeyindeed16:15
Technovikinggot 5 straight hours of meetings, kill me now16:26
* popey tickles Technoviking 16:27
Technovikingteehee16:27
czajkowskiget a room16:29
* popey gives czajkowski a massive..16:33
popey..hot chocolate.16:33
czajkowskiohhhh16:33
czajkowski:D16:33
czajkowskiwe'll keep you16:33
popey:D16:33
greg-gthanks for the comment, jono. Really appreciate it (I replied, as well, if you're interested/have time).16:57
jonogreg-g, it has been a frustrating day17:01
jonothanks greg-g17:02
jcastrois anyone from -classroom around?17:32
popeyo/17:32
jcastrowhere's the bot?17:32
popeyno idea17:32
popeyi made the bot +v, dunno if that fixes it17:36
dpmok, have a nice weekend all!17:41
dpmbye!17:41
AlanBellUbuntu For All meeting starting nowish in #ubuntu-meeting19:00
czajkowskistill not home :(19:18
Pendulumczajkowski: still at conf?19:36
cjohnstonjcastro: pong19:47
czajkowskiPendulum: just home20:41
* Pendulum hugs czajkowski 20:41
jcastrocjohnston: HEY20:44
cjohnstonHEY20:45
jcastrocjohnston: I AM MOVING TO FLORIDA FOR A YEAR OMG YOU AND ME20:45
jcastroPendulum: thanks for the irc help earlier20:45
cjohnstonWhen? Where20:45
cjohnstonWhy What20:45
cjohnstonmy house?20:45
cjohnstonlol20:45
jcastrook, if you're offering!20:45
cjohnstoncall Hope.. she does like you20:45
czajkowskiOMG20:46
czajkowskijcastro: oh how come ?20:46
czajkowski#/away20:46
jcastrojill got an internship in boca raton for a year20:46
cjohnstonCool20:46
jcastroyour loco pages look nice20:46
jcastroI found everything I needed!20:46
cjohnston3 hours20:47
czajkowskiboaca raton?20:47
cjohnstonya20:47
cjohnstonwhen are you coming down jcastro20:47
jcastroaugust20:47
cjohnstonsweet20:47
jcastrothough we might come down earlier to scope around20:48
jcastrowhereabouts you at?20:48
cjohnston40 minutes from caribe20:48
cjohnstonsame city20:48
jcastronice!20:49
cjohnstondef will have to hang out20:49
cjohnstonjcastro: you will have to start hanging out in -us-fl20:53
jcastroI am. :)20:54
jcastrosorry I am in and out, tons of stuff to do20:54
cjohnstonyup20:55
Technovikingjcastro: I'm in Florida near Boca Raton every Christmas20:56
jcastronoice!20:59
Technovikingthink Fort Meyers is close? there is some Boca close :)20:59
Technovikingcloseish, but wrong coast21:01
TechnovikingBut there are a couple awesome restauarts/bars in the middle of the Everglades21:06
jcastrohey mhall11921:06
jcastroYOU CAN HAZ PYTHON21:06
jcastrohttp://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/3508495346/now-we-can-rock-this21:06
mhall119jcastro: rock!21:06
mhall119jcastro: any link to the PlacesAPI python interface?21:08
jcastrohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Python Example21:10
jcastrothat is all I have right now21:10
mhall119ok21:11
jcastroken can't get quicklists working but I figure good enough for people to mess with if they want something to do21:13
AlanBelljcastro: ooooh python rocks hard21:39
macomeafirst president22:38
macobah22:38
macowrong channel. and failed tab22:38

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