[00:16] popey: I'll have to come back to it, I'm under the weather at the moment and liable to set fire to projects. [00:17] heh [00:17] want some help? [00:17] or, wait till after the weekend when you probably feel better :) [00:19] popey: Lets wait for monday, I'm hoping the sniffles will have gone too by then. [00:21] coolio [02:12] hey popey [02:12] how's your unity today? [02:13] :-( [02:14] sad face? [02:14] my unity has been crashing my compiz [02:14] and i keep getting the partial upgrade message [02:16] og [02:16] oh [02:16] I just updated [02:16] and everything got upgraded at once [02:17] I think it is because of x but im not sure [02:20] you on -intel? [02:20] have been getting the partial upgrade mesage for 4 days now... last time i did a partial i screwed up the system [02:21] yeah never do that [02:25] yes, intel === james_w` is now known as james_w [03:22] jcastro_: any idea how long till the intel x stuff is fixed? [03:22] intel is working [03:22] what's held back? [03:24] theres banshee stuff thats unchecked compiz, empathy, indicator apps, linux headers, python stuff.. is that what your talking about? [03:25] well [03:25] use apt [03:25] and just apt-get install pieces individually [03:25] and make sure it doesn't want to remove important things [03:25] ok [03:26] do em one at a type or a few at a time [03:26] until it resolves itself [03:27] gtg though, weeds is on [03:27] ahh.. libreoffice is whats held back [03:27] if it looks scary don't do it! [03:27] lol [03:27] it does want to remove empathy [03:31] yeah I let it remove that for now [03:37] if partial upgrades break your system, the package dependencies are wrong... [08:02] Morning o/ [08:06] good morning all! [08:06] dpm: hey morning [08:07] hey kim0 :) [08:07] ;) [08:38] brb, rebooting. Hopefully after the latest unity upgrade I get window decorators again! [08:43] \o/ got window decorators back [08:44] woohoo :) [08:45] yeah, unfortunately compiz crashed like 2 seconds after :/ [08:47] ok, back to normal [08:58] ooooh the new shortcuts to start apps in unity (Super+) are pretty neat [08:58] and I guess very helpful for accessibility [09:26] dpm: those were in Maverick too, the regression has been fixed! [09:27] \o/ [09:28] I'll just have to figure out what's happened with the old Super+W and Super+A shortcuts, as they've now been replaced to show all workspaces and the applications place, respectively [09:32] Morning! [09:38] 'lo all === cypher is now known as czajkowski [11:58] Aloha [11:59] hey czajkowski, how's it going? [11:59] good listening to simon phipps [11:59] always a great speaker [12:00] :) [12:01] hey popey, I've just replied to Neil. Just letting you know, as I didn't CC you as you told me not to [12:02] thank you, much appreciated [12:05] morning all [12:49] http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2011/02/the-open-by-rule-governance-benchmark/index.htm would like to be able to rate Ubuntu and see how we do [14:22] sense: i dont think you have to ask someone to leave a comment if they've spotted a mistake.. ;p [14:24] vish: I wanted to lower the mental barrier a bit further. ;) [14:24] haha! [14:25] greg-g raises a very interesting issue though; decisions _for_ Ubuntu taken by people not accountable _to_ the community [14:25] I don't mind a strong discussion, as long as their is a progressing conversation. [14:25] vish: The handling of this issue by Canonical is indeed a different matter. But I think that the company should be more clear in who controls/owns Ubuntu. [14:26] I have no problems with them controlling Ubuntu, I think it is very sensible, but they should be clear about it. [14:26] * vish nods.. [14:26] Otherwise your raise exception you cannot meet. [14:26] expectations [14:41] cjohnston: PIIIIIIIIIING! [14:41] * popey tickles jcastro_ and his tail [14:43] hehe, someone confused popey to one of the banshee devs also named "alan" ;) [14:45] who/where? [14:45] popey: on #banshee , not now but last night.. [14:46] oh [14:56] sense: replied to your comment. Summary of my comment "Thanks for bringing that up, and I totally agree" :) [14:56] greg-g: Great! :) [14:56] of course, if you want the more wordy version, check out the full comment ;) [14:56] I sure will. [14:57] I'm happy with the constructive posts we see about this issue on the planet. [14:58] Now you have made me curious to that interview. [15:02] sense: Awesome! It is a great interview. It really helped me think through this situation yesterday. [15:02] that was part of my goal with that post, to get more people to listen to that interview ;) === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [15:32] Booo [15:32] MOO! === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:39] hey all [15:39] * popey runs up to jono and gives him a big kiss [15:39] can you tell it's UDS sponsorship time? :D [15:40] lol [15:40] you not going to randomly kiss me anymore when it is not sponsorship time? [15:40] :-( [15:40] lol [15:42] :) [15:43] AlanBell: you know ... [15:44] AlanBell: I was trying to do something yesterday and I was thinking [15:44] when we do global jams and ubuntu hour we tell people "hey think of something cool, work on the wiki, etc." [15:44] I was thinking... [15:44] "contribute to ubuntu, DELETE A WIKI PAGE." [15:44] heh [15:45] ooo, i like that [15:45] * popey goes looking for pages to delete [15:45] delete a random fulltextsearch macro [15:45] AlanBell: which brings me to my next question [15:45] AlanBell: is there an easy way to find out which pages haven't been touched by age? [15:46] I wrote a thing that did that by grabbing all of /RecentChanges and parsing it :) [15:46] * popey nominates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals for deletion! [15:46] along with every page linked from it [15:46] (scroll down) [15:46] popey: so my idea was generate a list of pages that are crap, sorted by oldest [15:47] and then just tell teams "grab a letter, review, and purge, if not, update" [15:47] "Ireland, do the I's, Ohio, do the O's" etc. [15:47] there would be significant frustration on the day (if it was UGJ) as the wiki would crap out for everyone all the time [15:48] well, not all at once [15:48] ubuntu hours spread over time perhaps [15:48] jcastro: oi leave ireland alone :p [15:48] I is a good letter, it was an example! [15:50] * czajkowski hugs jcastro [15:50] bah, theme on the wiki is broken so i cant click delete [15:50] you do I have a sense of humor right! [15:50] seriously it took like 20 seconds for that breezy page to show up for me [15:51] * AlanBell wonders if delete actually does much on a wiki [15:52] well, the performance is part of it [15:52] the "totally crap information that is useless" is the other half [15:55] aha! adblock plus was screwing the layout! [15:57] "Page "UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/AudioInfrastructure" was successfully deleted!" [15:57] muhahaha [15:57] * popey goes on a deletion spree [15:58] popey: ok so how do you do an "oldest page" list? [15:58] pass [15:59] I just searched today for breezy [15:59] figuring many would be obsolete [15:59] and they are [15:59] probably some warty ones too [15:59] ah [16:00] i did do it in the past with RecentChanges [16:00] but its quite slow/painful [16:00] indeed [16:01] ok my friends - I call it a day [16:01] have a great weekend everyone [16:01] and see you on monday [16:01] developer week monday! :) [16:01] yoohooo [16:01] * dholbach hugs you all [16:08] dholbach: bye [16:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda?action=diff [16:10] bye [16:14] ohh [16:15] indeed [16:26] got 5 straight hours of meetings, kill me now [16:27] * popey tickles Technoviking [16:27] teehee [16:29] get a room [16:33] * popey gives czajkowski a massive.. [16:33] ..hot chocolate. [16:33] ohhhh [16:33] :D [16:33] we'll keep you [16:33] :D [16:57] thanks for the comment, jono. Really appreciate it (I replied, as well, if you're interested/have time). [17:01] greg-g, it has been a frustrating day [17:02] thanks greg-g [17:32] is anyone from -classroom around? [17:32] o/ [17:32] where's the bot? [17:32] no idea [17:36] i made the bot +v, dunno if that fixes it [17:41] ok, have a nice weekend all! [17:41] bye! [19:00] Ubuntu For All meeting starting nowish in #ubuntu-meeting [19:18] still not home :( [19:36] czajkowski: still at conf? [19:47] jcastro: pong [20:41] Pendulum: just home [20:41] * Pendulum hugs czajkowski [20:44] cjohnston: HEY [20:45] HEY [20:45] cjohnston: I AM MOVING TO FLORIDA FOR A YEAR OMG YOU AND ME [20:45] Pendulum: thanks for the irc help earlier [20:45] When? Where [20:45] Why What [20:45] my house? [20:45] lol [20:45] ok, if you're offering! [20:45] call Hope.. she does like you [20:46] OMG [20:46] jcastro: oh how come ? [20:46] #/away [20:46] jill got an internship in boca raton for a year [20:46] Cool [20:46] your loco pages look nice [20:46] I found everything I needed! [20:47] 3 hours [20:47] boaca raton? [20:47] ya [20:47] when are you coming down jcastro [20:47] august [20:47] sweet [20:48] though we might come down earlier to scope around [20:48] whereabouts you at? [20:48] 40 minutes from caribe [20:48] same city [20:49] nice! [20:49] def will have to hang out [20:53] jcastro: you will have to start hanging out in -us-fl [20:54] I am. :) [20:54] sorry I am in and out, tons of stuff to do [20:55] yup [20:56] jcastro: I'm in Florida near Boca Raton every Christmas [20:59] noice! [20:59] think Fort Meyers is close? there is some Boca close :) [21:01] closeish, but wrong coast [21:06] But there are a couple awesome restauarts/bars in the middle of the Everglades [21:06] hey mhall119 [21:06] YOU CAN HAZ PYTHON [21:06] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/3508495346/now-we-can-rock-this [21:06] jcastro: rock! [21:08] jcastro: any link to the PlacesAPI python interface? [21:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI#Python Example [21:10] that is all I have right now [21:11] ok [21:13] ken can't get quicklists working but I figure good enough for people to mess with if they want something to do [21:39] jcastro: ooooh python rocks hard [22:38] meafirst president [22:38] bah [22:38] wrong channel. and failed tab