[11:31] <czajkowski> Aloha
[11:32] <tdr112> morning czajkowski
[11:32] <ebel> happy election day all!
[11:32]  * tdr112 is going to vote in an hour or so 
[11:33] <ebel> i'm going after work
[11:33] <ebel> still registered to vote at my mammy's
[11:34]  * ebel shall be voting based on the parties social policies.
[11:34] <ebel> So essentially, labour. :P
[11:34] <tdr112> slashtom: is this your first time voting in Ireland ?
[11:36] <slashtom> yep
[11:37]  * slashtom may vote Sinn Féin - got to keep the brits out!
[11:38] <czajkowski> :o
[11:40] <tdr112> :)
[11:40] <ebel> ;)
[11:46] <tdr112> poor czajkowski no voting for her
[11:46] <czajkowski> :(
[11:47] <slashtom> the funny thing is, i'm entitled to vote in british elections too
[11:47] <czajkowski> I am too
[11:47] <ebel> Tis a shame
[11:47] <czajkowski> the funny this is because I'm not in Limerick today I cant vote
[11:47] <ebel> they should let people vote from abroad, the UK does it
[11:49] <slashtom> however i don't use that right
[11:49] <czajkowski> why not ?
[11:49] <slashtom> i don't live in UK, I don't want to live in UK, so why should I vote in UK?
[11:52] <czajkowski> you may want to at some point
[11:52] <slashtom> maybe, but i would rather not
[11:52] <slashtom> :)
[11:53] <czajkowski> fair enough
[11:53] <tdr112> i dont think people should vote if they are not living in the county
[11:53] <czajkowski> tdr112: tell that to the 50K people who have had to leave and not by choice
[11:53] <czajkowski> tdr112: 100 counteries world wide let people not living there vote
[11:54] <slashtom> some countries (eg. USA) tax their ex-pats
[11:54] <czajkowski> I find it annoying I've lived in ireland for 31 years and not able to vote in this election yet slashtom is there over a year and is, no offence
[11:54] <tdr112> czajkowski: they had a choice
[11:54] <czajkowski> tdr112: no they didn, many of my mates are in construction those who left got  work those who've stayed are on the dole.
[11:55] <slashtom> czajkowski: that's only an irish/british thing
[11:55] <ebel> Most FF voters are older. Most people who emigrate are young. Ergo prevent postal votes and you increase FF's share of the vote!
[11:56] <tdr112> czajkowski: it is there choice to leave and try and find a job or a better live , they could have stayed , did some training/ school/ moving job type
[11:57] <czajkowski> tdr112: so thats kinda annoying to hear, seeing as I tried to find a job for 7 months and did a course and still no work, others I know have stayed tried to do courses on fas and fas arent even handing out the certs.
[11:58] <slashtom> i thought fás was a joke
[11:59] <slashtom> most of the people my company hired last year are immigrants
[11:59] <slashtom> we struggle to find the local talent
[11:59] <czajkowski> slashtom: you're an imigrant
[11:59] <slashtom> aye
[11:59] <slashtom> i counted myself
[12:00] <tdr112> what i find is annoying is after the state , ireland has provided all thexe people free college course , that they just get up and leave cause a brain drain
[12:03] <ebel> The state values the old more than the young. More benefit cuts for the young, much less for the old.
[12:03] <tdr112> ebel: thats true , the old have a lot of power
[12:04] <ebel> cf.  state pension vs. jobseekers allowance for <25sz
[12:06] <ebel> that's mostly cause elderly people vote more, right?
[12:08] <ebel> I would support compulsary voting, and a none-of-the-above option
[12:10] <tdr112> ebel: na , i would not like that
[12:43] <moylan> if there were cumpulsory voting they would have to have voting which allowed more college students to vote.  like voting on sundays when students are at home rather than at college.
[12:45] <ebel> yeah, the current 'election on a weekday' disproportionally affects young people.
[12:45] <ebel> saturday voting for all.
[12:45] <moylan> sunday would be better
[12:46] <ebel> Another option: no compulsary voting, but rather than using the votes cast, use the number of people who could have voted.
[12:46] <ebel> e.g. if there's a 4 seater constituancy, and 50% turn out, then only 2 seats are elected.
[12:46] <moylan> many people aren't registered to vote.
[12:47] <ebel> TDs would then be incentivised to increase the turn out as much as possible.
[12:55] <moylan> the only flaw with that is that tds would have to pass a law which would require them to work harder.  what are the odds? :-)
[17:53] <daxroc> have a good weekend all
[19:41] <Tigerplug292> evening all
[20:22] <moylan> belated hu
[20:23] <moylan> whoops, belated hi
[23:27] <ShaneM> Hey where do the latin translator meet?  https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+lang/la
[23:28] <ShaneM> mailing list?
[23:28] <ShaneM> Because there doesn't seem to be an irc room
[23:28] <ShaneM> czajkowski: You know where I could check?
[23:32] <czajkowski> well latn is spoken by lots of people
[23:32] <czajkowski> it's an old language
[23:32] <czajkowski> so not sure tbh
[23:42] <ShaneM> czajkowski: I know someone who wants to help do some translations
[23:42] <ShaneM> But they don't know where to find info.
[23:46] <czajkowski> mail david plannela directly
[23:46] <czajkowski> he leads the translations team
[23:46] <czajkowski> https://launchpad.net/~dpm
[23:46] <ShaneM> ok! :)
[23:46] <ShaneM> Thanks