=== jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === james_w` is now known as james_w === cypher is now known as czajkowski === yofel_ is now known as yofel === doko__ is now known as doko === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [15:53] hi ara! [15:53] hello marjo :) [15:54] hi marjo, ara, - cool, we'll have a crisp start. :) [15:57] skaet: i think it's going to be a lively start! [15:58] * joshuahoover waves [15:58] skaet_: I'll be replacing ogra today [15:59] for arm [15:59] o/ [15:59] hello, I'm here for Colin [15:59] thanks rsalveti, mvo :) [15:59] Daviey, you or zul today? [16:00] skaet_, me [16:00] coolio, and on that note, I guess its time to begin. :) [16:00] #startmeeting [16:00] Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is skaet_. [16:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:00] o/ [16:00] [Topic] Natty overview - skaet [16:00] Agenda is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-02-25 [16:00] Milestoned bugs for alpha3 can be found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone=33573. [16:00] A3 release is March 3rd. [16:00] A3 freeze is Feb 28 at 2300 UTC (for those who are pushing to the last minute to fix bugs :) ) [16:00] New Topic: Natty overview - skaet [16:00] There is alot of cruft in our bug database right now, and its showing up in the report. I'd like to request the leads to please review the bugs in your section, and let me know which ones, in your opinion, are really critical to focus on for A3 over the next couple of days when you go through your status. [16:00] Reminder: please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing. If someone wants to comment on the last point, please "o/", so we know to wait. [16:00] Any questions? [16:01] .. [16:01] AWTY? [16:01] ? [16:01] (ignore me, SCNR) [16:01] skaet_: "are we there yet" [16:01] thanks pitti. :) [16:02] ok, not seeing any questions, bug please let me know which bugs are critical in your mind (or if the critical ones are even on the list) when we get to your turn. [16:02] time for the roundtable then... [16:03] [Topic] QA team update - marjo [16:03] New Topic: QA team update - marjo [16:03] hi folks [16:03] * Natty Alpha 3 Work Items [16:03] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-platform-qa-natty-alpha-3.html [16:03] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-bug-handling [16:03] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-qa-n-testing-different-architectures [16:03] On track. [16:03] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-uec-qa [16:03] Work items blocked on: server ISO not installable [16:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/724822 [16:03] Previously blocked on: [16:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/723148 [16:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/724242 [16:03] Ubuntu bug 724822 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "d-i installer fails for server/alternate i386/amd64: Corrupted deb files on iso" [Critical,Fix released] [16:03] Ubuntu bug 723148 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Natty server ISO images fail to install" [High,Fix released] [16:03] Ubuntu bug 724242 in udev (Ubuntu Natty) "alternate and server images fail to install: d-i stops with "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted"" [High,Fix released] [16:04] QA Dashboard [16:04] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html [16:04] Note unity and xserver-xorg-video-intel are in both the "Last Day" and "Last 7 Days" metrics. [16:04] * Testing status: [16:04] Desktop Automated Testing results [16:04] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/desktop-testing/natty/ [16:04] jibel is investigating a failure with aboutme [16:04] List of bugs found is at the bottom of page. [16:04] LINK received: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/desktop-testing/natty/ [16:04] Server Automated Testing results [16:04] http://204.236.234.12/view/ISO-server-Natty/? [16:04] 22 failures are mostly due to images not installing. [16:05] Automatic Upgrade Testing [16:05] http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/ [16:05] per mvo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/690873 and the main-all bug is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/715075 [16:05] Ubuntu bug 690873 in sudo (Ubuntu Natty) "latest natty sudo upgrade prompts for conffile update and potentially removes %admin from /etc/sudoers" [High,Triaged] [16:05] .. [16:05] thanks marjo! [16:05] impressive increasing of #tests over time! [16:06] pitti: thx and QA team continuing to add tests [16:06] thx to jibel, patrickmw, pedro, hggdh, bdmurray [16:06] .. [16:06] marjo, which bugs are still blocking for A3 image creation right now? [16:07] in what you're seeing? [16:07] skaet: a3 image creation?! i can't speak for that [16:07] skaet_: I plan to start looking at that stuff btw, now that we are past FF [16:07] heh, should reword, sorry. [16:07] skaet_, empathy is not installable [16:07] skaet: ?? [16:07] skaet_: and fix what I am able to [16:07] install blocking... [16:07] jibel: on amd64? [16:07] the last known one was today's d-i bug (just fixed) [16:07] pitti, right, [16:08] jibel: fixed around noon [16:08] jdstrand, jibel, hggdh - cool. thanks! [16:08] was fallout from last night's unity and dbus update [16:08] skaet: ah, hggdh & jibel just answered that [16:08] thanks [16:08] any other questions? [16:09] skaet_: CD builds failed this morning due to aptdaemon, I fixed that [16:09] otherwise they should work [16:09] pitti, :D thanks. [16:09] pitti: thx much! [16:09] [Topic] Hardware Certification team update - ara [16:09] New Topic: Hardware Certification team update - ara [16:09] of interest is bug 723482, which seems to affect installations with multiple filesystems [16:09] Hello! [16:09] Launchpad bug 723482 in mountall (Ubuntu) "system hangs on boot after updates from 2011-02-22" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723482 [16:10] This week has been a bit of a nightmare in terms of testing. We haven't had a good image all week, so we were not able to test Natty in our labs. [16:10] The alternate image had 3 issues (one new everyday): [16:10] [LINK] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723148 [16:10] [LINK] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724242 [16:10] [LINK] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724822 [16:10] LINK received: https://launchpad.net/bugs/723148 [16:10] LINK received: https://launchpad.net/bugs/724242 [16:10] Ubuntu bug 723148 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Natty server ISO images fail to install" [High,Fix released] [16:10] LINK received: https://launchpad.net/bugs/724822 [16:10] Ubuntu bug 724242 in udev (Ubuntu Natty) "alternate and server images fail to install: d-i stops with "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted"" [High,Fix released] [16:10] Ubuntu bug 724822 in base-installer (Ubuntu) "d-i installer fails for server/alternate i386/amd64: Corrupted deb files on iso" [Critical,Fix released] [16:10] The Live Cd has a memory leak, that it is preventing us for testing it as well: [16:10] [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/714829 [16:10] LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/714829 [16:10] Ubuntu bug 714829 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Xorg segfaults during LiveCD installation using preseed file" [High,Incomplete] [16:10] ara: bugs look familiar :) [16:10] Good news on the Live CD: Daniel is testing the fix proposed in the above bug, and he thinks that it might solve the issue. He needs to do some more investiagation. [16:10] Let's hope next week we get a good image that finishes installation and we can go back to our HW testing and bootchart metrics. [16:10] .. [16:11] thanks ara. [16:11] ara: thx looking forward to it! [16:11] any questions? [16:11] hggdh, bug noted. thanks. [16:12] [Topic] Security team update - jdstrand [16:12] New Topic: Security team update - jdstrand [16:12] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty [16:12] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty [16:12] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html [16:12] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html [16:12] We got apparmor 2.6 uploaded before feature freeze. It is currently in NEW because of the new python-libapparmor package -- since I uploaded it, I can't process it so if a listening archive admin wants to take care of it, that would be great. [16:12] We have no remaining milestoned features or bugs for alpha-3. We are below the trend line on work items overall. [16:13] :) [16:13] Other than what is in the links, that's it [16:13] .. [16:13] thanks jdstrand. of the bugs I've got listed in your area that you're interested in - are they the right ones, or am I missing some? [16:14] area of the agenda report? [16:14] skaet_: let me check [16:14] jdstrand, thanks! [16:15] any other questions before I move on while jdstrand is checking? [16:15] [Topic] Kernel team update - smb [16:15] New Topic: Kernel team update - smb [16:15] Hi there [16:15] hi [16:15] Overall status is reported at the first link below. Burn down for the release milestone is at the second link below. Burndown for the cycle is at the third link: [16:15] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty [16:15] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-natty-alpha-3.html [16:15] [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg [16:15] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty [16:15] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-natty-alpha-3.html [16:15] We are a bit above the line on the burn-down but that is mostly an artifact of there being so very few specific items for our team. The natty kernel is now at v2.6.38-5.32 (v2.6.38-rc5 based). Overall we have most of our development out of the way, with just the ecryptfs long filename work ongoing, we are now tracking mainline and fielding issues as they appear. Mainline progress towards a final release are continuing satisfactorily. The [16:15] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg [16:15] main concern currently is the vesafb interaction with the intel DRM drivers which is triggering GPU hang reports, this is next weeks focus. [16:15] Of the bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, status is as below: [16:15] #344878 ecryptfs long filename prototype continues to evolve with a second push going to upstream, the on-disk format is not yet agreed and this is highly unlikely to be resolved in time; [16:15] #539467 SATA alpm is now disabled in userspace, testing with upstream recommendations are ongoing; [16:15] #542660 still present, further upstream testing requested; [16:15] #630748 remains waiting on Intel for updated wireless firmware; [16:15] #634487 investigations just beginning; [16:15] #636091 is looking like a locking issue in USB, possibly to do with the BKL, waiting on reporter; and [16:16] #702090 looks to be an interaction with vesafb, upstream are saying "don't do that". [16:16] The other "driver" bugs have yet to be reviewed; status will be added to the kernel report next week (first link). [16:16] skaet_: you are missing 712662 714908 714958 [16:16] As people may have noticed, this is the brain dump of apw (who may be able to listen but has too big fingers to type quickly enough on his phone. [16:16] .. [16:16] lol :) [16:17] thanks smb. [16:17] of the bugs listed in the agenda - which are the true blockers in your mind for A3 image release? [16:18] if there are no other questions for smb, I'm happy to go on and let him look in the background. [16:18] other questions? [16:18] jdstrand, thanks, will add them. [16:18] skaet_, Will look. [16:18] smb, thanks. [16:19] Topic] Foundations team update - mvo [16:19] I stand in for Colin today to represent the foundations team [16:19] What we did: [16:19] barry release a new computer-janitor; evan worked on /home preservation and a great new partition page in ubiquity; doko packaged python3.2-final and jamvm plus bootstrap work; cjwatson was doing bootstrap work and biosdevname packaging; mvo merged a new apt, uploaded apt-btrfs-snapshot, software-center work and worked on testing python 2.6 -> 2.7 upgrades in the auto-upgrade-tester; jhunt merged all the upstrart work into lp:~upstart-devel/ [16:19] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations.html [16:19] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations.html [16:19] features for a3: [16:19] packageselection-foundations-n-finish-upstart: in progress, jhunt has a PPA ready [16:19] packageselection-n-network-stack: done, waits on NEW/MIR [16:19] bugs: [16:19] #638307 - under investigation, needs coordination with debian [16:19] #684083 - waits for confirmation of the reporter that its fixed (or not) [16:19] #692691 - only affects grub1, still needs fixing [16:19] #684703 - packages should update their symbol file to use (c++) tag [16:19] #709191 - under investigation, could be correupted apt cache file [16:19] #711896 - looks like a badly timmed upgrade when the archive was in a lot of churn (i.e. the right packages not yet rebuild) [16:19] #712173 - waits on debug logs [16:19] #712554 - pitti will look at it [16:19] #712654 - unclear if its a bug outside of virtualbox [16:20] #655950 - should get fixed with the new parition screen evan works on [16:20] #605042 - we need help from someone with a arm board here (ogra?) [16:20] #634487 - invalid for java [16:20] #672177 - fixed, just needs uploading [16:20] #675347 - waiting on upstream, we have a workaround [16:20] #719129 - under investigation, there is a upstream patch now [16:20] (done) [16:20] we will do some cleanup on the buglist, there are some dubious ones on it really [16:20] (really done now :) [16:20] thanks mvo :) [16:21] can you also let me now asynchronously, which are the real ones to focus on unsticking for A3. [16:21] ? [16:21] I agree there are some dubious ones being turned up on the list right now. :P [16:21] I guess the grub and ubiquity ones [16:23] ok, give me the bug numbers, and I'm probably going to into the agenda and do something to make them stand out, for focus, while we clean up cruft. [16:23] any other questions for mvo? [16:23] thanks, I will do that async then [16:23] thanks! :) [16:23] [Topic] Server team update - Daviey [16:23] New Topic: Server team update - Daviey [16:23] o/ [16:23] == Status == [16:23] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-server-natty-alpha-3.html [16:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty [16:23] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-server-natty-alpha-3.html [16:24] == Milestoned Bugs == [16:24] bug 580319 - Spamaps currently Investigating. [16:24] Launchpad bug 580319 in dhcp3 (Ubuntu Natty) "dhcp3-server launches before upstart brings all interface, thus failing to start" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/580319 [16:24] skaet_, Only 702090 seems really of importance [16:24] bug 590201 - hallyn currently investigating [16:24] Launchpad bug 590201 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Natty) "OpenSolaris (previously working) no longer boots: kernel panics early" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/590201 [16:24] bug 697753 - Will be fixed in next upload [16:24] Launchpad bug 697753 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Natty) "bittorrent recommendation prevents bittorrent demotion" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697753 [16:24] bug 711587 - RoAkSoAx investigating [16:24] Launchpad bug 711587 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Natty) "powernap and Eucalyptus seem unable to reach an understanding" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711587 [16:24] bug 517300 - Waiting on upstream to land fix from maverick, then sync. [16:24] Launchpad bug 517300 in likewise-open (Ubuntu Natty) "[armel] likewise-open needs porting to ARM" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/517300 [16:24] bug 717166 - Daviey working with upstream to resolve [16:24] Launchpad bug 717166 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu Natty) "Broken with v4 isc-dhcp-server in Natty" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/717166 [16:24] bug 724470 - Daviey working on. Good progress [16:24] Launchpad bug 724470 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "apache2: symbol lookup error: /etc/eucalyptus/axis2/services/EucalyptusNC/libEucalyptusNC.so: undefined symbol: rampart_print_security_processed_results_set" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724470 [16:24] bug 600174 - doko pushed a new upstream version to PPA which builds, disecting to find the resolution has been hard. [16:24] Launchpad bug 600174 in axis2c (Ubuntu Natty) "axis2c fails to build from source on maverick/i386" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600174 [16:24] == Work Items / Specs == [16:24] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-image-rebundle [16:24] Outstanding commited work items are purely out of archive documentation work, not restricted by the release schedule. [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-containers-in-uec [16:25] Making good progress, requires some further work, upstream review, merging and a FFe. [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-cloud-images [16:25] Over the hump of the alpha-3 work items, remaining is one is to verify a feature (hopefuly complete today) and secondly a new tool to manipulate the an image, where the FFe is being composed at the moment [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-server-n-java-library-housekeeping [16:25] Remaining work item for A3 is to regress test and file a FFe for a main sync. [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-server-n-cluster-stack [16:25] Work items for A-3 complete, or suitably postponed. \o/ [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-cloud-init [16:25] Remaining work items are documentation, out of archive. [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-openstack-integration [16:25] Tracking upstream nicely, awaiting update on dashboard progress - If that makes Natty it will be a universe NEW package. Possible it might just be a PPA upload. [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-containers-finetune [16:25] Totally complete, \o/ [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-server-n-hudson [16:25] Excellent progress, spec is mainly a (complicated!) semi-supported PPA and nearing completion. [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-openstack-integration [16:25] Good progress, appears to be below trend as most of WI are regarding tracking upstream for snapshots. All Universe related work. [16:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-install-service [16:25] Making progress, the main assignee has been travelling - but pace should increase soon. [16:25] == General == [16:25] We are making good progress on release critical issues, the primary concern for me at the moment is some of the eucalyptus issues. The items that appear to be behind trend are largely documentation refresh, or PPA related work items; which are not subject to the relevant freezes - but are still on track for A3 release as a target. Most of this week we've had a non-functional daily ISO. We should be expecting more daily testing next week, w [16:25] hich may uncover more issues - but generally the platform is looking reasonably stable. [16:26] ... [16:26] Daviey thanks! sounding very good indeed. [16:26] skaet_, groovy! [16:27] Is the list I've got in the agenda for your bugs, got the important ones on it? [16:27] * Daviey rechecks [16:27] any other questions? [16:27] * skaet_ will let Daviey recheck asynch [16:27] skaet_, I'll make a point of double checking out of band [16:27] thanks [16:28] thanks! [16:28] [Topic] Desktop team update - pitti [16:28] New Topic: Desktop team update - pitti [16:28] Blueprint implementation: [16:28] - On track for entire cycle [16:28] - Alpha-3: got close to trend line after some cleanup [16:28] * a lot is DX integration (which we need to wait on); biggest one is Unity [16:28] * a11y support, for which there is another code drop planned next Monday, to [16:28] * close some (not all) WIs the quickly ones are blocked on landing additional [16:28] * Launchpad API; moved to beta-1 now, will most likely be moved to o-series [16:28] General status: [16:28] - feature development has settled down, working a lot on bug fixes now [16:28] - new Unity/Compiz/nux releases caused some temporary archive breakage, but settled now [16:28] - new LibreOffice 3.3.1 microrelease uploaded; part of it is bringing back the Human icons [16:28] - utouch stack is in main now [16:28] RC bug status: details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus#rcbugs [16:28] - most of them are coming in and get fixed without much noise, but these two are worth calling out: [16:28] - bug 710582: getting behind; asked Robert about the status, will get some extra hands on Monday if he doesn't have time [16:28] - bug 637827: still no response from Mozilla despite repeated poking [16:28] Launchpad bug 710582 in webkit (Ubuntu Natty) "webkit crashes on amd64 architecture with SIGSEGV in WTF::OSAllocator::reserveAndCommit() was: webkit does not implement "assert" sanely" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582 [16:28] Launchpad bug 637827 in firefox (Ubuntu Natty) "Firefox and Thunderbird (XUL) menus don't appear in the global menu bar" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637827 [16:29] There's one thing I'd like to discuss and point out here: [16:29] we currently have swt-gtk in main, since eucalyptus builds against it; however, it's not really maintained, and uses the old xulrunner-1.9.2, which we must remove from main (and possibly from the archive) [16:29] the best thing would be if we could drop eucalyptus' dependency on swt-gtk (it doesn't have a GTKish frontend anyway, does it?); Daviey, is there any chance we could do this? [16:29] alternatively swt-gtk needs to be ported to xulrunner-2.0; Chris already looked at this, but it's a huge task, and neither the current nor the ported version actually work; we don't have a Java specialist in the desktop team, so if this should be done, we need help for this [16:29] .. [16:29] thanks pitti! [16:29] (sorry for the broken enumeration in the first part) [16:29] skaet_: as for A3 blocker, that's mainly #710582 [16:29] pitti, I had a couple of outstanding questions with chrisccoulson... I should have chased them [16:30] we'll open a bug report about this now, to track/discuss the issue [16:30] pitti, If i can have a swt-gtk package built without xulrunner, would make things much easier to regress test. [16:30] pitti, am in awe of your burndown chart record this release.... very impressive. [16:30] Daviey: are we going to keep euca for natty, or will we move to openstack? [16:30] Daviey, the issue with that is it breaks eclipse :( [16:30] (ideally one that works on *maverick*, natty euca platform is too unstable to check it against) [16:30] (eclipse is using the browser part of swt-gtk) [16:31] pitti, openstack is purely universe for this release [16:31] Daviey: does euca actually use anything desktop-ish? I thought it was a web frontend [16:31] i don't really care about the other packages that are using the browser part of swt-gtk (vuze, tuxguitar etc), but if I break eclipse then I will be very unpopular [16:31] pitti, it is purely web based [16:31] Daviey: right, that made me wonder why it needs gtk at all [16:31] pitti, but note, that the gwt library is an abused version. [16:32] (as in, heavily modified... and everyone is scared to touch it.) [16:32] it should also be noted, if we go the porting route, this will need to happen every three months [16:33] which is why i want to get xulrunner out of main :) [16:33] chrisccoulson / pitti: other than supporting xulrunner in main, what is the main gain for this work? [16:34] Daviey: that very; xulrunner API/ABI will change every three months now, and thus we get rid of it where we can [16:34] Oh i see [16:35] it'll also help to reduce some space on the server CDs, but that's secondary [16:35] pitti / chrisccoulson: if you can get be a package built without xulrunner, i'll make sure it's tested [16:35] also, having it in main implies a commitment to support it for the life of an ubuntu release [16:35] which is going to be difficult [16:35] Daviey: I'm afraid we dont know euca at all [16:35] pitti, oh, not expecting you to touch euca! :) [16:35] this was brought into main for euca [16:35] we already backported 1.9.2 to all supported ubuntu releases (to replace the obsolete 1.9), and that was a significant amount of work [16:35] pitti, i mean, a swt-gtk package built without xulrunner [16:36] Or have i missunderstood the predicament? [16:36] Daviey: we can't [16:36] doing that every few months on 4-5 supported ubuntu releases is basically a full-time job ;) [16:36] Daviey: swt-gtk needs xulrunner [16:36] Daviey: the question is to drop swt-gtk from euca [16:36] Ahhhhh! [16:36] Okay... i didn't understand the issue correctly.. sorry [16:36] since euca doesn't actually seem to need any GTK/SWT stuff (being a server/web frontend app) [16:37] pitti, I'll test a maverick euca cloud without swt-gtk, and therefore xulrunner this week [16:37] I'll update the bug that is about to be raised :) [16:37] Daviey: great, many thanks [16:37] cool. [16:37] maverick being a working platform is a better comparison [16:37] pitti, thanks for highlighting the A3 blocker, will make sure its left highlighted in the scrubbing. [16:37] any other questions for pitti? [16:38] [Topic] Ubuntu One Team - joshuahoover [16:38] New Topic: Ubuntu One Team - joshuahoover [16:38] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/NattyReleaseStatus [16:38] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/NattyReleaseStatus [16:38] details on where we're at with blueprints and releases are in the link above [16:38] we nearly got everything in prior to feature freeze yesterday but missed a (relatively small) feature that we'd still like to get in for notifying users they've exceeded their quota, which is made up of 3 tasks: bug #702172 #702176 #702183 [16:38] Launchpad bug 702172 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "Syncdaemon needs to send a notification when a folder shared to the user exceeds the owning user's quota" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702172 [16:38] i haven't filed the exception yet as we're seeing if we can have it ready by tuesday, if we can't then we're not going to try to get the freeze exception [16:39] early next week we're reviewing ui changes and finalizing them so we hit ui and string freezes [16:39] we're now busy prioritizing u1 bugs to fix since new features are complete...i should have an updated list on our release status page by next meeting [16:39] and that's it for this week for u1 - questions? [16:39] .. [16:39] thanks joshuahoover! [16:40] are the bugs I've got listed on the agenda matching up with the ones you're focusing on? [16:40] skaet_: yes, plus possibly others :) [16:41] joshuahoover, cool. let me know the others asynch. [16:41] any that you consider blockers for releasing A3 at this point? [16:42] skaet_: no [16:42] cool. just wanted to double check. [16:42] any other questions? [16:42] [Topic] Kubuntu Team update - Riddell [16:42] New Topic: Kubuntu Team update - Riddell [16:42] * skaet_ looks around and sees that Riddel is away on the status... anyone else from Kubuntu? [16:43] shadeslayer: ^ [16:43] hi [16:43] * kdebindings now compiling on ARM, hopefully the rest of the KDE packages will be able to compile on ARM once that's done [16:43] * qt broken on ARM due to multitouch patch and for some reason has started using egl bug #724867 fixing now being tested [16:43] Launchpad bug 724867 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "current qtopengl breaks virtualbox" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724867 [16:43] * we were due to get upstream 4.6.1 tars yesterday but confusions in the git transition have delayed, looks like we'll end up having some different source tars for 4.6.1 [16:43] * CDs building and not oversized (except PPC) [16:43] * 11 bugs milestoned for alpha 3 http://goo.gl/yGhJd [16:43] * Desired features are in, no notable FFes expected https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo [16:44] * skaet_ happy to see no notable FFes expected [16:45] ..? [16:45] .. [16:45] thanks Riddell. Any of the bugs listed in the Agenda true blockers for A3 in your opinion? [16:46] no, nothing I expect to be a blocker [16:46] thanks! good to hear. [16:46] any other questions? [16:47] [Topic] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth [16:47] New Topic: Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth [16:47] hi, the report is up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/NattyReleaseStatus#preview as usual [16:47] of note this week [16:47] unity 3.4.6 released, including 31 new features or bug fixes: https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.4.6 [16:47] compiz 0.9. released as well [16:47] we also received beta versions of proprietary drivers to continue testing (and developing!) unity: thanks for the xorg team and vendors [16:47] on the unity foundations front: [16:47] darn [16:47] final installment of libunity, with the additional soundmenu API [16:47] datetime indicator upload late, scheduled for monday now: features a new prefs dialog with a timezone selector; calendar monitor supporting remote cals as well [16:47] Even more appmenu fixes from the amazing mterry and chriscoulson [16:47] LibreOffice making its way into natty/universe [16:47] gir introspection issues resolved, which provides python bindings and a new call documentation set [16:48] sorry Riddell ... :( [16:48] qa, alex is full on bug triaging [16:48] and provided the HW cert team with the autopilot tool [16:48] bug status [16:48] Bug:175874 - Bug, not feature, for monday [16:48] Bug:657771 - Bug, not feature, next week [16:48] Bug:663030 - mterry is on it [16:48] Bug:676166 - just received beta drivers, work resumed on investigating it [16:48] Bug:685682 - same [16:48] Bug:686698 - same [16:48]