[00:40] <kees> alucardni: switching it to eglibc may help, I'll target it for you
[00:43] <alucardni> kees: thank you
[01:51] <c2tarun> I am not abe to connect with in.archive.ubuntu.com so I am not able to install any build-dependencies or any other applications. Why I am not able to connect?
[01:51] <micahg> c2tarun: wfm, ISP issues?
[01:52] <c2tarun> wfm?
[01:52] <micahg> c2tarun: works for me
[01:53] <c2tarun> micahg: is there any way to ping on IP of in.archive.ubuntu.com? (I mean what is counterpart of ping from windows?)
[01:53] <lifeless> c2tarun: ping
[01:53] <micahg> c2tarun: ping?
[01:53] <Pici> ping
[01:54] <lifeless> technically PING.EXE
[02:13] <c2tarun> I tried to ping to in.archive.ubuntu.com but didn't connected as well. Apart from ISP issues is there any other possibility? Because other wesites are working fine
[02:14] <c2tarun> wesites -> websites
[02:20] <JontheEchidna> I can ping in.archive.ubuntu.com just fine
[02:20] <JontheEchidna> 64 bytes from 37.snat-111-91-91.hns.net.in (111.91.91.37): icmp_req=1 ttl=54 time=306 ms
[02:21] <JontheEchidna> if pinging 111.91.91.37 works for you, it's a DNS issue. If it doesn't, then it's an ISP issue.
[02:21] <JontheEchidna> though yours ISP could also be your DNS provider...
[02:24] <c2tarun> JontheEchidna: may be an ISP issue, if I'll complaint then they'll open google and say net is working :/ they'll never understand
[02:39] <Rcart> c2tarun: What about doing traceroute?
[02:45] <c2tarun> Rcart: the program traceroute is not installed :( and again I need to connect for installing
[02:46] <alucardni> c2tarun: what if you switch from in.archive.ubuntu.com to another server?
[02:47] <Rcart> c2tarun: you should add to your /etc/hosts: 91.189.88.30 archive.ubuntu.com
[02:47] <Rcart> and then try to ping :/
[02:49] <Rcart> Sorry, I mean: 111.91.91.37 in.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:52] <c2tarun> 111.91* is not working, what is 91.189.88.30? its working :/
[02:55] <Rcart> 91.189.88.30 is from the archive.ubuntu.com server, yours is in.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:55] <c2tarun> can I use 91.189.88.30?
[02:55] <Rcart> c2tarun: I guess (:
[02:57] <Rcart> c2tarun: in.archive.ubuntu.com is from your country server (India, thought), and archive.ubuntu.com is from America
[02:58] <Rcart> c2tarun: Seems like your country server is down xD
[03:01] <c2tarun> Rcart: how can I add other servers to my list?
[03:03] <StevenK> No, archive.ubuntu.com is from the UK
[03:03] <c2tarun> StevenK:  how can I add other servers to my list?
[03:03] <Rcart> c2tarun: Editing your /etc/apt/sources.list file, but I think that you should wait your local server to be up :/
[03:03] <jmarsden> c2tarun: Edit the file /etc/apt/sources.lsy
[03:03] <jmarsden> c2tarun: Edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:04] <c2tarun> Rcart: thanks :) I'll wait till today evening it my country's doesnt get up I'll add
[03:06] <Rcart> StevenK: From UK? O_O, din't know it.
[03:07] <Rcart> c2tarun: Your welcome (:
[03:07] <StevenK> Rcart: mtr to it, you'll see London all over the last hops
[03:07] <Rcart> *You're
[03:07] <jmarsden> Rcart: geoiplookup archive.ubuntu.com will tell you where it is.
[03:09] <Rcart> jmarsden: Sure, it's just that I thought it was from USA xD
[08:48] <c2tarun> can anyone help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/572092/
[08:53] <arand> c2tarun: Do you have a mounted /proc ?
[08:54] <c2tarun> arand: why so?
[08:55] <arand> c2tarun: THat's the error that stands out at me just by a first glance.
[08:56] <arand> Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) ... the java command requires a mounted proc fs (/proc).
[08:58] <c2tarun> arand: but if'll mount proc into chroot then all the files of chroot will change to root priviledges only. dont you think that can be a problem
[08:59] <arand> Sounds like it could be...
[09:02] <c2tarun> sounds like time to learn schroot :/
[09:03] <arand> Or pbuilder...
[09:07] <c2tarun> arand: pbuilder deletes everything on quiting :( it takes very long to install all the build-deps each and every time
[09:10] <mr_pouit> but pbuilder will do that automatically for you
[09:16] <c2tarun> mr_pouit: but that automatically will take some time.
[09:50] <nonix4> When a bug fix gets released/published, in which order do the released files appear & where? Looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/virt-manager now which mentions 0.8.6-1ubuntu3 and i386 build of it, while lp:ubuntu/virt-manager only has 0.8.6-1ubuntu1
[09:51] <c2tarun> why this error while creating a chroot? E: No such script: natty
[09:57] <mr_pouit> c2tarun: you need a newer debootstrap version probably
[09:59] <c2tarun> mr_pouit: I think I created a natty chroot few days back with this chroot only, it was related to linkin some file. but I forgot :/
[10:01] <c2tarun> mr_pouit: And I have the latest possible version for maverick?
[10:01] <c2tarun> mr_pouit: And I have the latest possible version for maverick
[10:17] <joaopinto> c2tarun, you either install the deboostrap for natty (from packages.ubuntu.com) or you manually create the link at /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/
[10:18] <c2tarun> joaopinto: I created the link :) it worked
[10:18] <joaopinto> afaik the new package just adds the link
[10:48] <c2tarun> !schroot
[10:49] <c2tarun> where can I get the manual of using schroot? Except that manpage
[11:08] <c2tarun> need help with schroot, can anyone please help.
[12:29] <blueyed> c2tarun: there might be something in the wiki?!
[13:12] <joaopinto> c2tarun, did you read the man schroot ?
[13:15] <joaopinto> there is also a nice wiki page at Debian's wiki, http://wiki.debian.org/Kde4schroot
[15:12] <ari-tczew> micahg: maybe you're interested in bug 724690
[15:12] <ari-tczew> I saw you've reported bug against this package
[15:18] <micahg> ari-tczew: yes, but I don't have time to test build at the moment, will try over the weekend maybe
[15:18] <ari-tczew> micahg: built fin
[15:19] <ari-tczew> e
[15:19] <ari-tczew> ~about hour
[15:19] <micahg> ari-tczew: you can ACK it then, I'm just curious if lintian pendantic shows anything on the new package from Debian
[15:20] <RoAkSoAx> micahg: a FFe will need to be request though!
[15:20] <micahg> err, I meant after checking the upstream changelog to make sure it's bug fix only :)
[15:21] <RoAkSoAx> micahg: ari-tczew I'll take it
[15:21] <ari-tczew> RoAkSoAx: feel free and as micahg wrote, bug fix
[15:21] <ari-tczew> however, SpamapS should write about it in expalantion
[15:22] <RoAkSoAx> ari-tczew: he is in a conference righ now, so he won't be around this weekend. I'll do it myself
[15:23] <ari-tczew> RoAkSoAx: ok
[15:28]  * Laney may now have to set up some more bugmail filters
[15:34] <c2tarun> joaopinto: ping
[15:56] <c2tarun> on running schroot I am getting chroot not found, here is my schroot.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/572225/ can anyone please help
[16:04] <coolbhavi> hey c2tarun
[16:04] <c2tarun> hi coolbhavi :) how are you?
[16:05] <coolbhavi> c2tarun, m fine mate I hope you are doing great was just looking at your ftbfs debdiff :)
[16:05] <c2tarun> coolbhavi: which bug?
[16:06] <coolbhavi> c2tarun, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bastet/+bug/724310
[16:06] <c2tarun> coolbhavi: oh this one :) how is it? any mistakes?
[16:07] <coolbhavi> c2tarun, I ll comment soon mate :)
[16:07] <c2tarun> coolbhavi: thanks :)
[16:08] <c2tarun> coolbhavi: hey if you have time can you please help me in using schroot?
[16:11] <coolbhavi> c2tarun, I use a pbuilder chroot to build and test packages so I ve no idea on schroot mate
[16:11] <c2tarun> coolbhavi: np :)
[16:35] <c2tarun> on running schroot I am getting chroot not found, here is my schroot.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/572225/ can anyone please help
[16:41] <c2tarun> on running schroot I am getting chroot not found, here is my schroot.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/572225/ can anyone please help
[16:43] <coolbhavi> !patience | c2tarun
[16:44] <c2tarun> coolbhavi: sorry :( actually I got disconnected so I posted again
[16:45] <coolbhavi> c2tarun, no problems mate ... I ve commented on your ftbfs bug please see :)
[16:45] <c2tarun> coolbhavi: sure :)
[16:45] <coolbhavi> c2tarun, good night mate m very tired today :(
[16:46] <c2tarun> coolbhavi: good night :)
[16:46] <coolbhavi> :)
[16:59] <joaopinto> c2tarun, sorry was not here
[17:00] <c2tarun> joaopinto: np :) can you help me with schroot.
[17:00] <joaopinto> yes, what's the problem
[17:01] <c2tarun> joaopinto: here is my schroot.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/572225/ when I am running schroot I am getting the error no chroot found
[17:02] <joaopinto> are you using schroot -c natty ?
[17:03] <c2tarun> joaopinto: here is the new error http://paste.ubuntu.com/572254/, actually I changed schroot.conf a bit according to wiki page. let me show it to you.
[17:04] <joaopinto> c2tarun, did you read man schroot.conf ?
[17:04] <joaopinto> you really should start reading the manpages :)
[17:05] <c2tarun> joaopinto: I read the manpages :( dont know why manpages confuse me. wiki pages are good but manpages scare me. :(
[17:06] <joaopinto> but you should read manpages,  because wikis a not so detailed, and no always match your app versions
[17:08] <c2tarun> joaopinto: ok, I got into chroot, how to add  my account to sudoer list?
[17:10] <joaopinto> the same way you do on a regular system :) ?
[17:11] <joaopinto> y
[17:12] <c2tarun> joaopinto: like adding a group into sudoers file and adding my account to that group?
[17:13] <joaopinto> yes
[17:14] <c2tarun> joaopinto: done :)
[17:15] <joaopinto> please note that you are using a directory based schroot, for real build test you usually use a file or unionfs based one
[17:15] <joaopinto> because you don't want to change the chroot between builds
[17:16] <c2tarun> joaopinto: for testing can I use pbuilder?
[17:16] <joaopinto> sure
[17:16] <joaopinto> or keep a base schroot and use sbuild :)
[17:18] <c2tarun> joaopinto: I added my account to group sudo on adding to group admin I am getting the group admin does not exist. Still my account is not in sudoer list?
[17:22] <joaopinto> c2tarun, did you create the admin group on the schroot ?
[17:22] <c2tarun> joaopinto: just a second, admin is actually missing, let me add it. :(
[17:25] <c2tarun> joaopinto: now this is something I am not getting :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/572265/ check this, I am in admin group and admin have root priviledges in sudoers file still I am not able to sudo
[17:26] <joaopinto> that's inside the schroot right ?
[17:26] <c2tarun> joaopinto: yup
[17:26] <joaopinto> and what error do you get ?
[17:27] <c2tarun> xaero is not in sudoers file. This incident will be reported
[17:28] <c2tarun> joaopinto: ^^
[17:28] <joaopinto> did you chechecked the the user is properly assinged to the grou with "id" ?
[17:28] <c2tarun> joaopinto: I'll check again, tell me how to check?
[17:29] <joaopinto> schroot into the system, and run: id
[17:29] <c2tarun> joaopinto: uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[17:30] <joaopinto> erm, aren't you schrooting with a regular user ?
[17:30] <c2tarun> joaopinto: right now I am as root user. should I log in as normal user?
[17:31] <c2tarun> joaopinto: here is when I am as normal user uid=1000(xaero) gid=1000(xaero) groups=1000(xaero),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),112,119,120
[17:31] <joaopinto> ok, as you can see, you are not on the admin group
[17:31] <joaopinto> which means, check your files again :)
[17:32] <joaopinto> nad make sure you did, relogin into the schroot after the changes
[17:32] <c2tarun> joaopinto: ok, please tell me once how to check that whether admin group has sudoer priviledges or not?
[17:36] <c2tarun> joaopinto: tried everything :( nothing happening :( admin is in list of sudoers list and my account is in group admin still I am getting the message xaero is not in sudoer list :(
[17:41] <c2tarun> joaopinto: done :) I added my account directly to sudoers list ;)
[18:01] <hakermania> micahg: Hello. The problem in the watch file doesn't seem to be my problem. The manpage suggests this format for a project uploaded in source forge. If I'm unaware of a change of the format of the projects hosted on source forge please let me now.
[18:01] <hakermania> know*
[18:04] <hakermania> micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572281/
[18:05] <dapal> hakermania: sf.net is specially-handled. What's the project you're trying to watch?
[18:06] <hakermania> dapal: its http://sourceforge.net/projects/wall-changer/ and in the debian/watch file I've placed http://sf.net/wall-changer/wallch-(.+)\.tar\.gz
[18:06] <dapal> hakermania: try http://sf.net/wall-changer/wallch_(.+)\.tar\.gz
[18:07] <dapal> however, I'd suggest \d+.* for the regex there
[18:07] <dapal> i.e. http://sf.net/wall-changer/wallch-(\d+.*)\.tar\.gz
[18:07] <dapal> err
[18:07] <zooko> Hi folks! I'm delighted that Tahoe-LAFS in Ubuntu is upgraded to v1.8.2.
[18:07] <dapal> i.e. http://sf.net/wall-changer/wallch_(\d+.*)\.tar\.gz
[18:07] <zooko> I'll be eager to respond to any reports of bugs or issues of any kind before Natty goes gold.
[18:07] <hakermania> dapal: Should I use your last suggestion?
[18:07] <dapal> hakermania: yes, please try it
[18:07] <zooko> Tahoe-LAFS v1.8.2 has kick-ass download behavior which makes it great for streaming downloads, like watching movies or listening to music that is hosted on Tahoe-LAFS, for example.
[18:08] <zooko> So, uh, let me know if you hear of any issues with it.
[18:08] <hakermania> zooko: !ass
[18:08] <hakermania> zooko: Anyway, please talk in appropriate style in the room :P
[18:09] <hakermania> dapal: Thx, it worked :))
[18:09] <dapal> hakermania: you're welcome :)
[18:12] <udienz> dapal, hello, good news codeblock is now sync with Debian
[18:12] <dapal> udienz: yes, I saw it, thanks :)
[18:15] <hakermania> micahg: Wallch is (finally) (hopefully) ready to rock!
[18:16] <zooko> hakermania: oh, whoops. Sorry about that.
[18:16] <micahg> hakermania: ok, I don't know if I'll get to it this weekend, but will take a look next week unless others do it first
[18:17] <hakermania> micahg: You're killing me :P I'll try to find somebody else to advocate it :) Thx though for your help till now :D
[18:17] <hakermania> zooko: not a personal problem.
[18:22] <hakermania> micahg: Would you mind telling me the persons with advocation abilities?
[18:23] <micahg> hakermania: MOTUs
[18:23] <hakermania> micahg: Yeah. OK. MOTUs....
[18:33] <hakermania> micahg: List with MOTUs?
[18:35] <udienz> hakermania, https://launchpad.net/~motu/+members
[18:36] <hakermania> udienz: Ty
[19:02] <hakermania> Hey, does anybody knows how to explain me the clean rule? I mean, OK, it is done when the debuild process begins... So, should I place there a check IF the files exist then delete them? Because, if you do the debuild process for 1st time, then the files doesn't exist, simply because they are created after this process..... So....?
[19:14] <psusi> the rule usually looks like: - rm foo, so if it fails, it is ignored.
[19:31] <hakermania> psusi: no it isn't. Look the last comment: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch
[19:31] <hakermania> pusi, it stops because the probably the 'rm' exited with wrong code..
[19:42] <psusi> hakermania: if the rm is not prefixed with a '-' then the makefile is broken
[19:43] <hakermania> psusi: I'm doing the clean trough the debian/rules file
[19:44] <psusi> hakermania: you need to either prefix the rm with a - so its exit status is ignored, or pass it -f so it will not fail if the file does not exist
[19:53] <hakermania> psusi: Is a check wrong? Or more rare?
[20:02] <hakermania> w8 ekei
[20:02] <psusi> hakermania: huh?
[20:02] <hakermania> psusi: nothing....
[22:31] <Laney> !ffe
[22:43] <virusuy> hi all, i'm using last stable ubuntu's release, and im building my pbuilder enviorment, can i create it for natty ??
[22:45] <Laney> yes, see --distribution
[22:46] <virusuy> Laney: thanks...
[22:50] <virusuy> Laney: i'll be upgradin a package for natty.. i'm okey if i build in a natty pbuilder enviorment, right ?
[22:51] <Laney> probably, it's better if you can test it though
[22:52] <virusuy> ahh, you mean, also test the result in natty, right
[22:52] <Laney> i do
[22:53] <virusuy> ah ok ..
[23:00] <virusuy> should i update a package to a non-stable version ?
[23:01] <virusuy> or only update a package if only there's a stable release
[23:25] <arand> I'm doing some packaging for a prospective game, and I'm putting scripts in /usr/games since the standard binaries needs to be executed with a "-p/usr/share/games/data" flag, is it appropriate to leave the standard (not normally used) binaries in /usr/games as well?
[23:26] <arand> Since from what I can tell it's inappropriate to have binaries in /usr/share ..?
[23:35]  * zooko tries ssh'ing to the sheevaplug.
[23:36] <zooko> Hm.
[23:36] <zooko>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[23:36] <zooko>  1444 root      25   0  1464  280  224 R 99.0  0.1   1071:15 locale charmap
[23:36] <zooko> It has spent more than a thousand minutes trying to generate locales.
[23:36] <zooko> Oh dear, wrong channel, soryr.
[23:36] <zooko> (Although it *is* Ubuntu on the Sheevaplug that is having that problem.)
[23:36]  * zooko disappears to #tahoe-lafs
[23:39] <cody-somerville> arand, Looks like ember does that. However, you could put the binaries under /usr/lib/... if you didn't want to.
[23:53] <gua> when a packages says "Ubuntu MOTU Developers" under "Maintainer:", who/whom is actually responsible for taking care of the package?
[23:56] <jpds> gua: The Ubuntu community as a whole.
[23:56] <jpds> gua: But you can find people that have touched the package in the changelog fil.
[23:56] <jpds> file*
[23:57] <gua> so say an update comes out for a debian package, is it just up to whoever to import it into ubuntu's universe?
[23:57] <lifeless> its largelt automated
[23:58] <lifeless> we only have to do things by hand where there is an ubuntu change already
[23:58] <gua> is there a page or name for the tool/system used that automates it?
[23:58] <lifeless> merge o matic
[23:58] <jpds> gua: https://merges.ubuntu.com/
[23:59] <gua> aha, that's kind of fancy