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charlie-tcahm, argue with it?00:11
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IdleOneh00k: try in PM00:12
h00kI thought she didn't like that00:12
IdleOneshe never complained to me about it00:12
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h00ker, I got a link...00:13
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rwwoh lawd.00:52
rwwI guess the bots got smart and/or human.00:53
charlie-tcahuh, that ain't you?00:54
rwwcharlie-tca: no. who is rww?00:55
charlie-tcalooks like the same nick00:55
Picirww: thats not a new command. Its part of supybot.00:55
rwwi meant the bots in #ubuntu00:55
rwwwho got through -unregged00:56
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ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood)01:08
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elkyDaviey, ikonia, if I understand correctly, what we have here is a conflict of irc core channel support scope and the additional support the -server channel team wishes to offer? Correct?01:59
elkyAnd if this is the case, should -server not be better served as a team channel rather than a core channel?01:59
elkyThe scope creep involved is really not something I'd be comfortable extending to #ubuntu, for example.02:00
tonyyarussoI've never been clear on what #ubuntu-server is for.  Is it a support channel or a development channel?  Can it be both and have anyone maintain sanity?  #ubuntu really, really sucks at offering server support, so I think we need a support channel, but it's also rather jarring if you join a channel to ask a support question and seeing deeply technical development questions flying by, and then having people annoyed that you're ...02:05
tonyyarusso... interrupting their meeting.02:05
elkyI don't doubt it has a place at all. It certainly does. I suggest though that the current implementation is not ideal.02:11
elkyIf anyone else is getting PM spam about the voldemort channel, please let me know.04:02
tonyyarussoAm I the only one that constantly finds myself about to scold someone for !language or something, and then realizes I'm not in an Ubuntu channel?04:10
Picitonyyarusso: no, its not just you04:12
Madpilotelky, I like "Voldemort channel" :)04:32
Madpilotand no, no PM spam here. yet.04:32
IdleOneJust got another PM from r00t4rd3d.05:05
IdleOne<r00t4rd3d> "it turned out he was trolling for a well know troll/stalker/complete mental case"05:06
IdleOne<r00t4rd3d> you ever gonna shut that fucking hole of yours ?05:06
IdleOne<r00t4rd3d> thanks for the insults though , im sure the CC will be happy to see mor05:06
IdleOneHere is my response in this publicly logged channel, not in PM to him.05:06
IdleOneI  hope you fie in a fucking fire.05:06
IdleOnedie*05:07
rwwIdleOne, go read the CoC. Thanks.05:07
IdleOneI know it. I don't need to be reminded of it.05:07
rwwTelling people to diaf violates it. Don't do that in #ubuntu* :\05:07
IdleOneircc see above.05:08
IdleOneif it means I lose my op privs or even my ubuntu membership so be it.05:09
rwwReminds me, I should figure out exactly what (if any) guidelines I'm held to by IRCC/CC on freenode in general due to wearing an ubuntu/member/* cloak.05:10
rwwtopyli: your client NOTICEd me. your client is bad.05:10
IdleOnetopyli: the ubuntu/member cloak requires you to follow the CoC at all times everywhere05:11
IdleOneerr05:11
IdleOnerww05:11
IdleOnesick and tired of being the victim05:13
Madpilotyou know, "Block User" is a good thing...05:13
IdleOnehe is an animal and I am not going to put up with this anymore05:13
tonyyarussorww: Basically what IdleOne said, although not necessarily as it's interpreted / enforced on our channels.  For instance, some channels allow swearing that we don't, and you're not going to have your cloak revoked for joining in there, but if you go around spamming / trolling / otherwise being and idiot you can.05:13
tonyyarussoIdleOne: So ignore it.  We're supposed to be of a higher order than trolls - sinking to their level doesn't help anybody.05:14
IdleOnehe is not asking me to unban him in here05:14
IdleOnenow05:14
tonyyarussoIf you want to use an actual /ignore, I don't think anyone will blame you for it.05:14
rwwyay, ubuntu.com's down05:16
Madpilotrww, not here it ain't05:17
rwwdownforeveryoneetc and I think it is ;P05:18
tonyyarussoDown for me.05:18
rwwand now it thinks it's up05:18
Madpilotthe fact that I'm looking at it in Epiph right now says it's not :)05:18
rww*.ubuntu.com is a posterchild for Ubuntu Server's stability.05:18
macorww: a bad one?05:19
tonyyarussostill down here!05:20
elkyIt's fine here. Routing problem maybe05:20
Madpilothttp://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntu.com05:20
Madpilotworks fine here, giant animated distracting mainpage thing and all.05:21
rwwMadpilot: ... has said it's up once and down twice for me now.05:21
rww just refreshed it twice more. it said it was up, then that it was down.05:21
rwwrollercoaster!05:22
AnastasiusStill badmouthing us, eh?05:46
AnastasiusStill?  Really?05:47
MadpilotAnastasius, to you have business here?05:47
Madpilots/to/do05:47
AnastasiusI do.05:47
Madpiloto rly?05:47
AnastasiusI take offense at ##club-ubuntu being called the Voldemort (sic) channel.05:48
Madpilotcry me a river. oh, and go away.05:48
tonyyarussoAnastasius: We really don't care.  You wear the title you earn.05:48
AnastasiusOh, is that so?05:48
tonyyarussoDo you have any issues that have to do with the actual Ubuntu namespace that we can address for you today?05:48
AnastasiusNo.05:49
tonyyarussoOkay then.  Have a good day.05:49
Madpilotthen you can leave, thanks.05:49
Anastasiuslol, as open minded as always, I see.05:49
Madpilotgo sob into your obsessively-read channel logs. somewhere else.05:49
rwwWait, so if it's the Voldemort channel, does that make me Harry Potter for preferring to just call it by its actual name :<?05:50
bazhang_rww, yes05:50
MadpilotAnastasius, never so open-minded that it falls out. Time for you to go.05:50
tonyyarussorww: Sure.  I don't really read you either.  :P05:50
AnastasiusNou.05:50
MadpilotI'm pretty sure we can carve that ban in granite and leave it in place for the ages...05:52
tonyyarussoprolly05:53
tonyyarussoput a comment on it05:53
Madpilot"Voldemort channel troll.  Do not unban before heat death of universe."05:54
Madpilothow about that?05:54
rwwConsidering some of the other crap we get in here that doesn't merit permabans, that seems a little disproportionate ;P05:56
Madpilotperhaps. I'm easily impressed by my own turns of phrase, though. And I really dislike deliberate calculating trolls.05:57
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Madpilotah, my first PM from the Voldemort creatures. /ignore time.06:03
* tonyyarusso wonders why Freenode puts up with such nonsense06:05
Madpilotooo, an invite to channel Voldy. No thanks...06:06
tonyyarussorofl06:08
tonyyarussoDesperate much?06:09
Madpilotapparently I'm "desperate" and "immature" for pointing out in PM how much they're obsessing over our chanlogs.06:10
MadpilotReflection, much?06:10
rwwwho invented that prom dress silliness, and can i thwap them?06:11
rww(#ubuntu)06:11
bazhanggaelfx afaik06:12
rwwhave seen before. do not want :|06:12
Madpilotah, my ignore list has it's very first occupant.06:13
rwwI don't ignore people *polishes halo*06:13
Madpilotcareful, the chanlog obsessives will take that as a challenge...06:14
Madpilotalthough the threat to call the CoC on me for calling my PMtroll accurate but perhaps unkind names was amusing.06:14
rwwGiven that I'm currently chatting to some of them about *checks*...stuff, I doubt it.06:15
tonyyarussoMadpilot: That appears to be the tactic of the month - wasting the CC's time complaining about ops.06:16
MadpilotI'm not expecting much traction for those complaints.06:16
tonyyarussoYou should congratulate your brother on not having to deal with that anymore :P06:16
rwwand incidentally, my solution to people PMing me silliness is to make sure that things can't be productive, throw !appeals at them, and stop paying attention. No need to make things worse :\06:17
topylirww: i send notices?06:29
rww05:10:16 [freenode] -topyli(topyli@ubuntu/member/topyli)- Sorry, but I'm away (Detached!)06:29
rwwI guess I set off a highlight on IRCC and your client sends them on highlights.06:29
topyliahh06:29
topyliawaythingy script, professionally configured. will fix, sorry06:30
rwwNo problems. figured you'd want to know ;)06:30
rwwtopyli: can you/IRCC-in-general update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks with a section about expected behavior elsewhere in freenode for people wearing ubuntu/* cloaks, please? scrollback says there is some, so it should probably be documented somewhere.06:32
rww(or maybe it is documented somewhere and I'm missing it)06:32
topylii don't think it's explicitly documented06:35
rwwhaving y'all write reams of documentation about everything is the new trend, so add that to the pile ;)06:36
topylithe CoC always applies though, and doubly so whin sporting cloaks06:36
bazhangwhine!06:37
tonyyarussoI would like the IRCC to write a document spelling out how often topyli will be required to post a new Tales.06:37
topylicould you add it to the meeting agenda so we can do it in a proper, bureaucratic manner?06:37
rwwtopyli: Meeting times are being secretly coordinated to overlap with my work schedule, so I can't attend. Does that matter?06:37
topylirww, not tonyyarusso :)06:38
* tonyyarusso strongly considers taking that as being directed at him :P06:38
tonyyarussoawww06:38
Tm_Ttopyli: a business proposition incoming to your PM when you have time06:38
rwwTm_T: Tales of the Offtopic plus adsense?06:38
tonyyarussos/of/from/06:38
topylirww: not really06:38
tonyyarussoSee?!?  It's been so long people don't even remember the title!06:38
rwwtopyli: k, will go06:39
rww... do06:39
elkyrww, that might work out to be a whole cent in revenue in about a decade's time.06:39
tonyyarussotopyli: You know that feeling when you really want to go read XKCD, but it's a Thursday?  You make it like that every day!06:40
rwwInclude TFTOT as a default plugin in Banshee. 25% revenue goes to topyli!06:40
rwwtopyli: agenda item added06:42
topylitonyyarusso: aww06:42
topylirww: thanks06:42
Tm_Tbah, I have no rights in meego channels ):07:13
tonyyarussoSomeone should make a chat client interface for game consoles.  They could call it meegowii.07:14
rwwI think I got webchat working on my Wii once. I forget.07:15
tsimpsonit does work, but without a keyboard attached it's not worth it07:15
rwwit can use regular USB keyboards, though, so not a big deal.07:16
Madpilotibadan(y) in -offtopic... bot?08:25
* rww looks08:25
tonyyarussoTm_T: he had a topic?08:26
rwwshares a hostmask with avis08:26
Tm_Ttonyyarusso: I don't care (;08:26
Tm_Tbut it's nice request which occasionally works08:27
MadpilotOK, those two pastebin URLs he left... w. t. f.?08:29
rwwahahahahahahaah bantracker08:33
rww"$person claims to be the greatest. I disagree."08:33
rwwop humor <308:33
tonyyarussonice08:33
rwwbut yeah, -ot person has been being weird for a while, by the looks of it.08:34
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rwwMadpilot: it's been doing that. just @btlogin anyway08:34
Madpilotyeah, btlogin works. strange.08:34
Madpilottonyyarusso, "Nuttier than a fresh jar of Jif Extra Crunchy" - nice.08:35
tsimpsonthe bot probably lost the CAP IDENTIFY-MSG during the splits08:36
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tsimpsonit wouldn't matter if you were already logged in, or had a hostmask set with the bot08:37
Madpilotwe can register a hostmask w/ the bot to autologin when it sees us?08:38
tsimpsonyes08:38
tsimpson@help hostmask add08:39
ubottu(hostmask add [<name>] [<hostmask>] [<password>]) -- Adds the hostmask <hostmask> to the user specified by <name>. The <password> may only be required if the user is not recognized by hostmask. <password> is also not required if an owner user is giving the command on behalf of some other user. If <hostmask> is not given, it defaults to your current hostmask. If <name> is not given, it defaults to your (1 more message)08:39
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ubottucurrently identified name. This message must be sent to the bot privately (not on a channel) since it may contain a password.08:39
tsimpsonso basically /msg ubottu hostmask add *!*@ubuntu/member/madpilot08:40
Madpilotnice08:40
tsimpsonand it'll automatically know who you are by hostmask08:40
Madpilotand done08:40
Madpilotalthough I got "Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" then "The operation succeeded." which was amusing.08:41
tsimpsonEncyclopedia is an aggressive plugin08:41
tsimpsonI usually prefix commands with @ to bypass that08:41
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Piciikonia: Whats x2go?15:01
ikonianot %100 sure to be honest, looks like a sort of remote application15:01
ikoniaeg: remote X control style app15:02
Picihrm15:02
ikonialooking at the deps on it though the 9.10 build is way out on the 10.415:02
ikoniaahh, an open source terminal server application15:02
ikoniathat's what it defines it's self as15:02
* genii-around grumbles and kicks his computer20:12
tonyyarusso@btlogin20:16
tonyyarussoYou know, I wonder what would happen if we had a buffer channel like #ubuntu-take-it-outside, and when people where !ot in #ubuntu, rather than directing them to #ubuntu-offtopic directly they went there, and if they where still active in that channel 48 hours later, ubottu would initiate a sanity quiz in PM with them, and if they pass then it tells them about #ubuntu-offtopic's existence.  :P20:27
rwwIn today's issue of "Technological Solutions to Social Problems"...20:37
tonyyarussorww: Social Problem:  People are stupid.  Social Solution: Lock all the stupid people up on a giant island in the middle of nowhere.  Problem With Social Solution: Shoot, it looks like Australia's already taken.20:38
rwwSo what you're saying is we should redirect people who are offtopic in #ubuntu to #ubuntu-au.20:39
tonyyarussosure!20:39
tonyyarussoAt least then it's not my problem :P20:39
rwwand we can tell the redirectees that it's the Ubuntu Gold channel ;)20:43
tonyyarussohaha20:43
rwwtrolls trolling trolls21:10
Piciyep21:10
PiciI give up21:10
Pici!guidelines > dhiaeldeen21:13
rwwubottu: tell ilessthan3ubuntu about botabuse21:27
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_WP said: !nautilus is Nautilus support can be found on irc.gnome.org in channel #nautilus.21:59
ubottuIn ubottu, Logan_WP said: !backbox is Backbox support can be found on irc.autistici.org #backbox.22:19
bazhangbackbox?22:19
Jordan_UWindow manager.22:22
bazhangthought it was blackbox22:22
Jordan_UOh, sorry I misread.22:23
Jordan_UApparently it's an Ubuntu derivitive. Since neither of us had heard of it I doubt that a factoid would be very usefull.22:24
ubottuLogan_WP called the ops in #ubuntu ()22:44
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