[08:06] <dpm> good morning all!!!
[08:07] <gtriderxc> hi
[08:07] <dpm> hey gtriderxc
[09:10] <andrejz> Hello dpm!
[09:10] <andrejz> I have a question for you
[09:10] <andrejz> i noticed a translation error in the installer
[09:10] <andrejz> in the progress bar
[09:10] <andrejz> the problem is i cannot find that translation
[09:10] <dpm> hey andrejz
[09:11] <dpm> it might be that the template in Launchpad is not up to date or that the string is not marked for translation. In both cases it'd be a bug in the installer. What string is it?
[09:11] <dpm> (I haven't been checking the installer for a while)
[09:11] <andrejz> i am not sure, because i only saw slovenian string
[09:12] <andrejz> but it's something like
[09:12] <andrejz> remove files from conflicting opreating syssem
[09:12] <andrejz> removing files from conflicting operating system
[09:12] <dpm> oh, I see, you mean the string is translatable but you cannot find the original msgid in LP
[09:12] <andrejz> yes
[09:12] <dpm> so in which templates have you searched already?
[09:13] <andrejz> it's also possible it's been changed in launchpad already but not reflected in the installer
[09:13] <andrejz> debian-installer
[09:13] <andrejz> ubiquity-debcof
[09:13] <andrejz> and bootloade
[09:13] <andrejz> bootloader
[09:14] <dpm> ok, you can try try aptdaemon as well, often strings in the installer come from there too
[09:14] <andrejz> ok thanks
[09:14] <dpm> or python-apt
[09:14] <dpm> if you don't find it there, we'll just have to investigate more :)
[09:16] <andrejz> ok,i found the string
[09:16] <dpm> ah, cool, where was it?
[09:16] <andrejz> it's been fixed on 07th of september 2010
[09:17] <andrejz> in debian instgaller
[09:17] <andrejz> but it's been fixed
[09:17] <andrejz> that's why i haven't found it at that point
[09:17] <andrejz> now my question is how is it possible the string was incorrect in 10.10 final if it was translated at the right time
[09:18] <andrejz> i guess these strings need to be specially exported
[09:18] <dpm> yeah
[09:18] <andrejz> is it possible to check if it was exported and when
[09:19] <dpm> in d-i it's also best to send fixes upstream to make sure they appear in Ubuntu too, as the process to export and merge the translations in the Ubuntu package is quite complex from the packaging side. You can have a look at the changelogs for debian installer, or look at the code to see when translations were exported. Let me see if I can help you in that
[09:27] <andrejz> ok need to reboot will be back in a minute ...
[09:32] <andrejz> i am back
[09:35] <dpm> ok, so I'm asking cjwatson, the d-i maintainer in the meantime, but I think in short the answer is that d-i is a translation that needs special handling and fixes are better exported to upstream so they can flow back to Ubuntu
[09:36] <dpm> The difficult part here is simply that in Ubuntu there is a single debian-installer template, whereas in upstream it is split into several templates
[09:36] <andrejz> ok thanks
[09:36] <dpm> perhaps this helps as a pointer on how to do this:
[09:36] <dpm> http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2009/01/msg00018.html
[10:26] <gtriderxc> can I use <br> or &nbsp; i Launchpad? will it stay visible?
[10:27] <gtriderxc> i think it may depend on situation. in present case i mean ubiquity slideshow eg This version brings some exciting changes including a totally redesigned desktop interface
[10:31] <dpm> gtriderxc, I think Launchpad will just pass through what you write to the PO files. How <br> and &nbsp; are interpreted will be dependent on ubiquity-slideshow
[10:32] <gtriderxc> in Polish it really looks terrible when a single letter is left at the end of the line. we have quite many single letters
[12:40] <gtriderxc> can any1 help me please?
[12:40] <gtriderxc> %l:%M %p
[12:40] <gtriderxc> TRANSLATORS: A format string for the strftime function for
[12:40] <gtriderxc> a clock showing 12-hour time without seconds.
[12:41] <gtriderxc> no idea what's all about
[12:41] <gtriderxc> leave it as it is?
[13:10] <dpm> gtriderxc, you can modify that string according to the strftime syntax to adapt it to the needs of your language. Here are the parameters that you can use and their meanings:
[13:10] <dpm> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man3/strftime.3.html
[13:11] <gtriderxc> thanks
[13:17] <dpm> no worries :-)
[17:11] <gtriderxc> dpm?
[17:11] <gtriderxc> are You steel there
[17:11] <gtriderxc> ?
[17:11] <dpm> yep
[17:11] <gtriderxc> I found a problem in a new software center
[17:12] <gtriderxc> long decriptions fall into ratings
[17:12] <gtriderxc> I'd like to report a bug but there are some soft center and soft store now
[17:13] <gtriderxc> when i want to report a bug in a soft center I can't
[17:14] <gtriderxc> there is an information that a store has to be configured
[17:14] <gtriderxc> don't quite get it now. should i report a bug into soft store?
[17:15] <gtriderxc> or shorten my translations
[17:15] <gtriderxc> which won't be easy cause noone is able to find which is too long in soft center
[17:17] <dpm> gtriderxc, so if you are comfortable with using the command line, I think the easiest thing to do is to open up a terminal and type 'ubuntu-bug software-center'. This should file a bug against the right package in Launchpad
[17:18] <dpm> does that answer your question?
[17:18] <gtriderxc> ok
[17:18] <gtriderxc> cause it looks like that:
[17:18] <gtriderxc> http://file1.npage.de/005253/89/bilder/longdescript.png
[17:20] <dpm> yeah, looks like a genuine bug
[17:21] <gtriderxc> ok thank You 4 help
[17:21] <dpm> no worries, let me know if the bug reporting worked with the instructions above
[17:35] <gtriderxc> it does work. thanks
[17:40] <dpm> cool