[00:09] good evening brothers. may i axe someone, how to adjust the screen brightness, without it defaulting back every time i dont touch a button for 15 seconds [00:09] ask* [00:10] oh no son, im from the hood [00:10] whatever that means [00:10] can't you use on the control on your monitor? ;) [00:10] nawh, but in all seriousness, pressing fn + brightness every few seconds is annoying [00:10] laptop :) [00:11] 00:09:43 < david-uwe> good evening brothers. may i axe someone, [00:11] :( [00:11] how incredibly rude of me, i apologise [00:11] there will be no axing [00:11] brobostigon: i think its called humour [00:11] I set my dimming in the bios on mine [00:12] popey: you mybe right, [00:12] is there no control for it within ubuntu? [00:12] yes [00:12] gnome power manager control brightness [00:12] what kind of laptop is it? [00:12] dell or apple? :) [00:13] HP [00:13] which model? [00:13] i THINK dm3 111sa or something [00:13] its a dm3, just dont remember the exact variation, why? [00:15] sometimes we have bug reports filed for specific models [00:15] was looking for one [00:15] oh i see, awesomes thanks :) [00:15] its x64 too if that helps [00:15] my sister has a dm3, but doubt she'd be happy me waking her up to steal it at this time of night ;) [00:16] its a pretty decent laptop, especially for the low price [00:16] yes [00:16] in fact it was the best spec laptop available at such a price [00:16] nothing obvious [00:16] they feel pretty solid too [00:16] true dat [00:16] im so white i cant get away with saying that [00:17] are they the shizzle? [00:18] they are exactly that [00:18] drat [00:18] they come a close 2nd to my K6-2 comp [00:18] ;/ [00:18] just pressed the brightness button on mine [00:18] its gone a bit dark [00:19] also, the authenticate box doesnt close when you click authenticate, you have to press the close button [00:19] is that standard on this version or a bug? [00:19] pass [00:19] authenticating button works, but it doesnt close the box [00:19] k :) [00:21] do you still have windoze installed? [00:22] actually, nvm, it doesn't sound like a "fault" [00:23] k, but yeah win7 [00:24] ho0wdy [00:24] doesn't pressing any key reset the brightness? [00:25] and does it do it in windows? [00:25] nope, it just back to low level [00:26] then i increase it to max, then when left for 15 seconds, drops to low again, moving mouse or pressing key doesnt increase to max again [00:26] have to fn and brightness key [00:26] however the power management settings fixed it :) [00:26] cool [00:26] :) [00:26] i just set a default brightness and turned the idolling [00:26] off [00:27] anywho thanks for the help, bed time! [00:27] sweet dreams team xxxxxxxxxx [00:27] laters [00:27] nice [00:27] I am tempted to try power management [00:27] :) [00:27] been ages since I have [00:28] I need to buy myself a laptop soon [00:28] but also need to upgrade the desktop, still have a pentium 4 2.8 [00:28] I intend to get a new comp soon, but still torn between the i3 and phenomII X4 [00:28] :/ [00:29] and also kinda tempted by intel's 2nd gen of core-i [00:29] I've not even specc'd up a machine - just fancy something that I can virtualise on. [00:30] i am looking forward to VT :) [00:30] Well, depends what I want to do. Considering a tower-server setup as myth backend, and then stream to PS3.. [00:30] my main reason is more horsepower for gaming [00:30] :/ [00:30] I might get a netbook. need something that doesn't keep me in one room of the house for day to day stuff [00:30] nos da everyone, sleep well. [00:31] my reasons are that this cpu is too slow for HD playback [00:31] and doesn't have a vmx flag [00:31] playback? :| [00:31] blu-ray [00:31] didn't realise it took that much power :/ [00:31] yeah, for decoding. [00:32] anyhow - it's been a couple of late nights, so I should make tonights an early one [00:32] okies [00:32] :) [00:33] anyone here have a m-ITX motherboard with a real processor on? [00:33] ta ra all [02:20] arduino \o/ === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === james_w` is now known as james_w === Azelphur is now known as zz_Azelphur === zz_Azelphur is now known as Azelphur [04:23] \o hey all [06:23] morning all [06:28] * MartijnVdS flashes Gingerbread onto his Nexus One [06:28] N1 owners: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965478 [07:18] MartijnVdS: :o you got the flash for gingerbread :O! [07:18] also, morning all ubuntu friends :) [07:20] oh... [07:20] * HazRPG just saw the link [07:24] MartijnVdS: how's 2.3 treating you? [07:38] wow I didn't know you could run php from the command line using php5-cli [08:24] * HazRPG updating nexus one :) [08:25] thanks MartijnVdS :) [08:27] did yours flash successfully? [08:29] mornin folks [08:29] morning hoover [08:32] Morning all [08:32] morning DJones :) [08:32] Hi HazRPG [08:33] wow... gingerbread looks so very different! [08:34] haha, the little screen turning off animation looks pretty awesome :P [08:42] anyone running gingerbread on a phone yet? [08:55] Greetings earthlings :) [08:56] hoover: I am now :) [08:56] bigcalm: greetings :) [08:57] \o [09:02] anyone have a terminal for their android? [09:03] other than irssi connectbot? [09:03] IMO it has a local terminal too in it [09:04] in your *opinion*? :) [09:04] whoami on my n1 says "app_1" [09:05] but, yeah, mine has a terminal emulator [09:05] and I did put busybox on it, but it doesn't work any more [09:05] I rooted mine, so have the terminal emulator [09:05] Happy Friday, everyone! [09:05] BigRedS: oh, pardon me for using a wrong acronym. [09:05] whooo! [09:05] TTFCIF (no I won't explain it) [09:05] haha, my brain had trouble parsing that this early :) [09:06] Myrtti: well yeah, but you don't just get access to it as standard though - its hidden away [09:06] BigRedS: which one you using? Or have you got your phone rooted? [09:06] it's rooted [09:07] but it's the one out of the market, I think [09:07] hmm, you using a custom o/s on it too? [09:07] I'm not in a great mood, so I guess it's best if I just go continue my lowsy day [09:07] somewhere else [09:08] * HazRPG keeps meaning to root and change o/s on mine [09:08] ttfn [09:08] Myrtti: *hugs* [09:12] \o mungojerry [09:12] o/ .... \o [09:12] upgrading my natty, hoping it works today :) [09:14] mungojerry: gl :) [09:15] what could possibly go wrong ;) [09:16] didn't someone tweet "today is a bad day to upgrade natty" yesterday? [09:16] Popey did [09:16] yeah, that was yesteday [09:17] mungojerry, i wouldn't right now, wait for this afternoon [09:17] things are still building [09:17] i guess he saw we were having problems and went ahead anyway :P [09:17] mungojerry: it's only just stopped being yesterday! :) [09:17] gord, i'm broken since yesterday anyway, so anything is a bonus right now ..thanks for the warning :) [09:18] hmm, where do logs from irssi go? [09:18] Hazmaster: ~/irclogs here [09:18] unity launcher is back...i'm back in business :) [09:19] popey: thanks :) [09:30] o/ [09:31] morning kazade [09:31] mrevell: your name came up in conversation the other night [09:31] mrevell: a certain photo of you with a pearl necklace [09:31] always makes me smile [09:35] popey, Heh, who was the conversation with? [09:38] morning all.... mmm steak [09:38] Morning screen-x [09:38] Steak now? [09:39] bigcalm: nah, just a happy thought :) [09:39] Hehe [09:39] Friday is steak day? [09:39] That sounds like a good institution, I should initiate that. [09:41] Why limit steak day to just friday [09:41] Sounds good for every day [09:42] mrevell: gmb, ev, kat, tony, laura... [09:42] Ah [09:42] heh [09:42] :) [09:43] any of you guys ever played with trying to have an "include" file in sudoers eg: include group1.file [09:44] planet gnome seems to still contain rants about banshee/canonical - you can't please everyone i suppose! [09:46] never mind, find some great info [09:46] ikonia, never tried that - do you have a /etc/sudoers.d/README file? [09:46] ok [09:51] hehe, pleasing people in the open source world, surely you jest [09:53] what's the best way to leave byobu, so that it saves all the screen sessions? [09:53] does ctrl+a ctrl+d not do it? [09:53] I know byobu -x brings back all previous screens [09:54] gord: it does :) [09:54] ctrl+a, d [09:54] gord: thanks dude :) [09:54] no ctrl needed on the d [09:54] popey: cool [09:54] * HazRPG stored info [09:54] but it does work, if you hold down ctrl longer.. [09:54] ah right yes, that was a bad habit i had [09:55] sure [09:55] and if you shift the d, it kills the shell as well. [09:56] wow, apparently my server has updates again already [09:56] only just did it yesterday iirc [10:01] probably timezone stuff [10:02] yeah it was, and a kernel update [10:04] seems odd to me how often tzdata gets updated, maybe timezones etc arent as static as I think they are. [10:04] every time i boot up my laptop ubuntu judges me because i have a broken battery :) [10:04] :(! [10:04] * HazRPG hugs gord [10:05] screen-x: if I recall the world is actually losing time each year [10:05] our days, according to the stars is actually 23hr and x mins and x seconds [10:06] HazRPG: are we getting closer to the sun then? [10:06] I can never remember the formula to work it out though [10:07] screen-x: not sure about that one, but I know the earth actually bounces around - which is what causes the ice ages every couple of million years [10:09] heh, I know very little about physics, just thought that if years are getting shorter, either the earth is accelerating or its orbit is getting smaller. [10:09] we are getting closer to the sun, as an unfortunate consequence of gravity [10:10] I mean a year when the dinosaurs was around was 370 days iirc [10:10] BigRedS: indeed, but not as fast as people would like you to believe though [10:11] ah ha! Found it, a day is actually 23hrs 56mins and 4.1secs [10:11] HazRPG: somethign like 200mm a year IIRC [10:11] every 18 months we have to add a leap second to our clocks [10:12] BigRedS: exactly :P [10:13] this is an interesting watch for those that are interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OFThORmR-s [10:14] its about time, and when will time end, etc... goes into a lot of detail about how we perceive time, and some history (and future) about the world & universe [10:14] its very entertaining [10:14] I try not to think about that sort of thing. my brain can neither get over the thought of infinite time, nor the concept of an end of time [10:15] BigRedS: there isn't an end to time, the chain-reaction of the universe has already started, the only thing it can do now is to extend out [10:16] HazRPG: I gather there are theories that call for each [10:16] true [10:16] depending upon your particular definition of 'time' [10:16] time is a human invention, no doubt about it :) [10:17] it was created to help solve the mysteries of the universe [10:17] I did like stephen hawkings' explanation of time naturally following from entropy [10:17] agreed [10:18] science ... it works! [10:18] * HazRPG loves science [10:19] iirc correctly that video goes briefly go into hawkings' theory [10:19] In fact, that book made a whole lot of stuff make sense, which was nice. And put names to theories that I knew of but not by name, or how they were related [10:19] quite handy [10:20] is that stephen hawking - a brief history in time? [10:20] HazRPG: yeah [10:20] I forget he wrote other books :) [10:20] great book :) [10:21] yeah, a lot more digestible than I was expecting [10:21] I suppose that's why they call it 'popular science' [10:21] I keep meaning to read his other books [10:24] wow, just realised the time (ironically) - should really do some work [10:24] haha [10:24] * screen-x goes to put some ram in a box [10:25] screen-x: you know, your name made so much more sense after I learned about the command screen :P [10:25] hah, I think of him every time I reacquire my irc sessio [10:25] n [10:26] :P [10:28] hmm, why does rhythmbox just play a clacking noise sometimes to some files? [10:33] anyone in here good, or even average at puppet? [10:34] or maybe a master of puppets? [10:34] indeedy..ba-dum ching [10:35] Baikonur: first thought I had too xD [10:35] there has to be a comic supervillain called The Puppetmaster, it's so obvious a name [10:35] Baikonur: you'd think right [10:36] there's a Puppet Master in both Marvel and DC worlds [10:36] but not in here :( [10:36] well the DC one is called Puppeteer, now [10:54] MartijnVdS: Seems we have "medium" music compatibility apparently. [10:55] hi all [10:57] Morning [10:58] I use grub as bootloader, but I boot into linux 90% of the time. Is it possible to have the boot menu come up only when I press a button or similar? [10:59] pr0ph3t: certainly with 'old' grub [10:59] there it was called 'hiddenmenu' [10:59] you could reduce the timeout which is cancelled but a button press [11:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Hidden [11:00] savers [11:00] thanks [11:01] check which version of grub you are using though :P [11:01] that looks good [11:02] pr0ph3t: If press and hold the left shift key down while the computer is booting up, that'll bring the grub menu up as well [11:06] isn't the default in grub2 to *not* show a boot menu, unless shift is pressed? [11:06] I'm pretty sure my grub2 shows a menu anyway [11:06] I think I'm running grub2 [11:07] danfish: not unless you have multiple O/S's [11:08] interesting. bought another album from u1 music store, banshee crashes.... the rebellion has started [11:08] yes sorry, forgot to specify I have more than one OS [11:08] morning all [11:10] HazRPG: oh yeah :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [11:11] I like how GRUB2 is technically 1.98 [11:11] that confused me the first time I booted up [11:11] or is it 1.99 now? [11:11] * HazRPG forgets [11:11] !info grub [11:11] grub (source: grub): GRand Unified Bootloader (Legacy version). In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-29ubuntu60 (maverick), package size 396 kB, installed size 924 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia all) [11:12] info grub2 [11:12] bah [11:12] !info grub2 [11:12] grub2 (source: grub2): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 47 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 kopensolaris-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 powerpc sparc mipsel) [11:12] o_O hurd-i386? [11:12] is this the debian version of lubotu3 ? [11:12] * popey pokes jpds [11:14] * daubers is considering turning his revo into a Minecraft server and popping it into the company DC over the weekend [11:14] popey: 301 → tsimpson. [11:15] daubers: company DC? [11:16] HazRPG: Data center [11:16] ah [11:16] popey, jpds: take a look at apt-cache showsrc grub2 [11:16] daubers: can you do that O.o [11:16] ?* [11:17] HazRPG: Yup, as I run it (sort of) [11:17] daubers: ah cool [11:18] daubers: you competing with popey's server :P? [11:18] HazRPG: Nope. Just fancy having a play. My home net connection is pants on upload (as I'm abusing it most of the time) so this way I don't have to worry :) [11:19] :P [11:23] * Laney enjoys having beds in minecraft now [11:23] Also means I might have some spare storage/bandwidth capacity to give away if needed [11:25] morning everyone. [11:27] morning brobostigon :D [11:29] hmm... I'm apparently eating mulberries [11:30] they look creepy, but taste nice [11:31] brobostigon: I'm using gingerbread now :) === cypher is now known as czajkowski [11:31] [Andrew] Colorific! A Useful Tool for Gtk/Cairo Developers - http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/colorific-a-useful-tool-for-gtkcairo-developers/ [11:31] Aloha [11:31] czajkowski: howdy [11:33] HazRPG: you blog gave that away, :) [11:34] brobostigon: oh wow, you read that [11:34] * HazRPG blushes [11:34] HazRPG: i have it rss'ed, yes, [11:34] awesome :) === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:34] HazRPG: gb on which device? [11:34] * davmor2 gives czajkowski a reassuring pat on the back and sends her into battle [11:34] mungojerry: nexus one [11:34] any good new features? [11:34] HazRPG: i am back on 2.3.2 :(, not 2.3.3. [11:35] brobostigon: how come? [11:35] mungojerry: better power manegement, tostart. [11:35] mungojerry: nicer/crisper interface too [11:35] HazRPG: there isnt a g1 one build with 2.3.3 yet. only 2.3.2 [11:35] ah [11:36] mungojerry: it's a dark theme too, which I always prefer [11:36] HazRPG: no major stuff tho? [11:36] (although power management is good) [11:36] speed mainly, and power management [11:36] HazRPG: its less piercing on my eyes, because of the darker style, especially at night. [11:36] brobostigon: agreed :) [11:36] so you have rooted phones? [11:37] pr0ph3t: yes. [11:37] nope, its on my to-do list [11:37] at some point htc will stop producing sense builds for my phone..but until then i'm patient enough to wait :) [11:37] brb, cuppa time, :) [11:37] a list that gets bigger each day... sadly... [11:38] mungojerry: personally I feel that android as a whole needs a better re-build of it [11:39] HazRPG: do you have screenshots? [11:39] oh wow latest ubuntu one in natty actually tells you what its doing [11:39] mungojerry: I mean I understand for some HTC phones that Sense will need to be updated each time, but the OS rollouts is seems somewhat tedious to me [11:39] gord: \o/ [11:39] gord: I bet that was a feature request :P [11:40] more programs are using that feature now [11:40] calibre does as well [11:41] mungojerry: I mean it doesn't seem right that with each new update some phones will never get it [11:41] yeah [11:41] or actually, maybe it did in previous versions as well [11:42] well I have the three firmware so I'll have to wait for them to get the updates [11:42] * brobostigon returns with cuppa in pot. [11:42] brobostigon: \o/ [11:43] gord: have you done an update today? [11:43] mungojerry, i have, but i wouldn't recommend it yet still ;) [11:43] yeah...my unity launcher is flipping out [11:44] pr0ph3t: hence i had to root and install an engineering recovery, otherwise i would be stuck back on 1.6. [11:44] opening and closing at super speed [11:44] * brobostigon is using gnome-shell and is happy. [11:45] brobostigon: which distro are you running it on [11:45] mungojerry: ubuntu 10.10. [11:45] mungojerry: i have built gnome-shell from gnome's git repo. [11:46] brobostigon: was it much hassle? [11:46] otherwise there is no recent build. [11:46] i'd like to try it [11:46] mungojerry: fairly simple, you just need some patience, [11:46] compilation patience or fixing dependencies patient [11:46] gtk3 takes sometime to build, :( [11:47] mungojerry: compilation time. [11:47] you allready have gtk3 in natty [11:47] i can handle that [11:47] mungojerry: it does dependency negotiation for you. and builds it in a sandbox. [11:47] sweet, are there instructions? [11:48] mungojerry: go to the gnome-shell page on the gnome wiki. [11:48] there is prolly a ppa somewhere [11:48] i wouldn't do anything like build gtk [11:48] gord: tried it, under natty, it fails withloads of dependency errors. [11:48] gord: the ppa i mean. [11:48] well then i would worry about building it too [11:48] there is a script that builds all gnome-shell for you, or at least there was [11:48] https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+packages [11:49] brobostigon: is that the one that failed? [11:49] screen-x: tried that too, under natty, no luck. [11:49] * mungojerry has a plethora of testing machines [11:50] screen-x: ppa.launchpad.net/ricotz/testing/ubuntu/ [11:50] looks like they are having some build issues with that ppa [11:50] http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/install-gnome-shell-from-git-in-ubuntu.html [11:51] unity installs and runs again (but does flickery madness) [11:51] not liking the sound of that AlanBell [11:52] ali1234: thats thesame as the instructions onthe gnome wiki, for a build. [11:52] yes [11:53] last time i tried it, that script builds all dependencies like gtk3 automatically [11:53] ultimately, the problem with unity is it's crap. the interface is confusing an inconsistent [11:53] ali1234: exactly, i did say that,just then. [11:53] i have no gnome shell experience though [11:53] directhex: I had a brief go at fosdem. I didn't like that either [11:53] lol, unity isn't that bad, it would be good on a tablet [11:54] it just doesn't make any sense at all for desktop [11:54] but it's shipping as a UI for all sizes of display... [11:55] yes, that is the problem [11:55] yeah, perfect for my 27"... [11:55] yeah. gnome shell seemed similar - the bigger the screen the more ridiculous it feels [11:56] gnome-shell is a massive improvement though, and something i needed, better workspace manegement. [11:57] i am reserving judgment on unity, but in the meantime i'm running alphas and reporting bugs to at least make it better [11:57] ahh, that much i didn't test or see - what does it do better? [11:57] * gord gives mungojerry a gold star for being useful [11:58] * mungojerry pins gold star to his ubuntu t-shirt [11:59] http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/gnome-shell-29190-released-screenshots.html give that video a look,it explains better than i candiscribe. [11:59] BigRedS: see above video link. [12:00] ah, cheers! [12:02] * HazRPG really dislikes flash at the moment :( [12:02] is there seriously no hack to force it to think I only have one display :( [12:03] it already thinks you have one display [12:03] that's how twinview works [12:04] see, I can't pass judgement for unity as it stands - because for a tablet/touch screen it would be the ideal interface to have - however for a desktop, I just think it's a gimmick, but well we'll see what happens on release :) [12:05] ali1234: no, as in is there not a hack to make it ignore the fact that the other screen is there [12:05] there is no "other screen" [12:05] you have 1 big screen [12:05]