| wrst | orias: cyberanger is :) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| * cyberanger grabs wrst and drags him into another room for a moment, don't mind the screaming folks | 00:01 | |
| * cyberanger kids | 00:02 | |
| cyberanger | orias: what's the issue | 00:02 |
| wrst | ha ha well cyberanger just stating the truth you are good with iptables :) | 00:02 |
| * cyberanger sees why netritious disconnects, oh well, I love IRC too much | 00:03 | |
| vychune | o/ | 00:06 |
| wrst | ha ha | 00:06 |
| wrst | greetings vychune | 00:06 |
| orias | thanks cyberanger | 00:06 |
| vychune | i now have a mac mini | 00:06 |
| orias | well setting up iptables for the first time and i think i blocked all outgoing traffic :) | 00:07 |
| orias | \0/ | 00:07 |
| vychune | lol | 00:07 |
| orias | can i run my iptables rules by ya? | 00:07 |
| orias | how's the mac mini? | 00:07 |
| cyberanger | and I do like helping, just sometimes helping myself too ;-) | 00:08 |
| orias | np take your time | 00:08 |
| cyberanger | orias: if it's alot of rules, pastebin it | 00:08 |
| orias | the great google is speaking in toungues today, so its not as helpful | 00:08 |
| cyberanger | don't mind looking | 00:08 |
| orias | just 5 | 00:08 |
| orias | :( | 00:08 |
| orias | pm? | 00:08 |
| cyberanger | pm works too, 5 isn't alot | 00:09 |
| orias | sweet | 00:09 |
| cyberanger | I think I';ve got 30 lines | 00:09 |
| cyberanger | and should actually have more | 00:09 |
| cyberanger | I was more giving wrst a hard time | 00:09 |
| * wrst is used to being given a hard time | 00:10 | |
| vychune | this mac is so god i forgot i had this open | 00:16 |
| vychune | lol | 00:16 |
| vychune | good even lol | 00:16 |
| vychune | whats everyone else up to? | 00:28 |
| cyberanger | you name it, it's probally on my list | 00:28 |
| vychune | lol | 00:28 |
| vychune | web design? | 00:29 |
| cyberanger | minor, yeah :-/ | 00:30 |
| vychune | awwwwwwwwwwwwww | 00:30 |
| vychune | no sirens for you guys? | 01:17 |
| cyberanger | nope | 01:36 |
| vychune | lol | 01:37 |
| chibihogoshino | eh ? | 01:38 |
| chibihogoshino | sirens ? | 01:38 |
| wrst | everyone ok after the weather last night? | 12:54 |
| cyberanger | I'll tell you when I'm sure it's over | 13:13 |
| cyberanger | but so fare so good | 13:13 |
| wrst | the wind is still blowing here cyberanger, but looks like that's about all that happened to us | 13:28 |
| cyberanger | we had alot of rain | 13:35 |
| cyberanger | and with the ridgeline, wind is worse | 13:35 |
| cyberanger | it's not over and the cloud cover hasn't shifted enough either | 13:36 |
| === xTEMPLARx_ is now known as xTEMPLARx | ||
| xTEMPLARx | mawnin, all | 14:33 |
| cyberanger | hey xTEMPLARx | 14:42 |
| xTEMPLARx | :) | 14:43 |
| wrst | he xTEMPLARx | 14:58 |
| xTEMPLARx | howdy senor wrst | 14:59 |
| wrst | how are you doing xTEMPLARx? | 14:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | not too awful | 15:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | :) | 15:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | how's wrst today? | 15:00 |
| wrst | good, i'm still here and didn't blow away :) | 15:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | hehe | 15:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | the storm woke me up last night | 15:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | but I didn't see any damage on our house | 15:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | I didn't think to go around back and check the crawlspace hatches tho | 15:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | hrmm | 15:01 |
| wrst | we had cushions on our front porch to blow off but luckily they were so water logged the 300MPH winds couldn't pick them up :) | 15:29 |
| xTEMPLARx | haha | 16:03 |
| cyberanger | wrst: exaggerate much? | 16:03 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst we only had two empty trash cans get blown over | 16:03 |
| cyberanger | I think it stressed one of the window frames | 16:05 |
| cyberanger | hand't checked further, expect more | 16:05 |
| cyberanger | wrst: glad you didn't have issues | 16:06 |
| cyberanger | xTEMPLARx: and you got luckly with trash cans | 16:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | well, thats all I noticed this morning... I didn't do a complete walkaround to inspect :) | 16:10 |
| cyberanger | same, but I think it wasn't over at the time (sky still suggests more, but not as it did) | 16:11 |
| chibihogoshino | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/battery-applet-status-ubuntu/ | 16:14 |
| chibihogoshino | nice | 16:14 |
| wrst | that is very cool chibihogoshino | 16:17 |
| chibihogoshino | yeah | 16:17 |
| chibihogoshino | i like how it can manage the cpu speed too | 16:18 |
| wrst | yeah be nice if they would use that in natty | 16:18 |
| chibihogoshino | i wonder how it will work on xfce | 16:18 |
| wrst | ? i don't know :) | 16:22 |
| chibihogoshino | hmm.. i have the xfce power manager running and this at the same time | 16:39 |
| chibihogoshino | does the power manager control the cpu fan ? | 16:42 |
| cyberanger | if there is an ACPI setting, I suspect so | 16:44 |
| xTEMPLARx | hey wrst | 17:10 |
| xTEMPLARx | did starspot ever get his KDE working again? | 17:10 |
| wrst | I don't know i was wondering about that this mornign | 17:11 |
| wrst | *morning | 17:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | hrm | 17:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | i hope so | 17:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | i mean its not that painful to reinstall, but its gotta be something simple | 17:11 |
| wrst | yeah he needs a little patience :) | 17:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | i had a bunch of packages on this box hosed up to the point that the system wouldn't allow updates or dist-upgrades to take place | 17:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | i was getting close to wiping and reinstalling, but I finally figured it out and am glad I did | 17:12 |
| xTEMPLARx | its not hard to re-do, but I invariably miss something and since this is my work box, I don't need any more downtime than I have to have | 17:12 |
| cyberanger | what's wrong with it | 17:14 |
| cyberanger | ? | 17:14 |
| cyberanger | hate to see him reinstall if it's too minor, he might want to try sudo adduser Svpernova09-test | 17:15 |
| cyberanger | then login under that account | 17:15 |
| cyberanger | then it's clear if it's a config file under $HOME | 17:16 |
| xTEMPLARx | problem is he can't log in | 17:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | at the grub level, he can use his keyboard and touchpad (compaq laptop) | 17:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | but once it goes GUI on him, the KB and touchpad are dead and nonresponsive | 17:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | can't even ctrl-alt-F2 to terminal | 17:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | had him trying a few things to see if it could get past that, but nothing seemed to work. He could boot from the LiveCD and it worked fine | 17:21 |
| xTEMPLARx | not sure if he installed Kubuntu or regular and then added KDE | 17:21 |
| cyberanger | can he boot into grub's recovery mode? | 17:21 |
| xTEMPLARx | another clue: it had been working for about 10 months and then developed this problem | 17:21 |
| xTEMPLARx | yeah | 17:21 |
| xTEMPLARx | recovery mode worked, but honestly I didn't have much for him to try at that point | 17:21 |
| xTEMPLARx | it was wrst and I helpin the poor guy | 17:22 |
| xTEMPLARx | and I know a lot of stuff, but I had no clue on this one | 17:22 |
| xTEMPLARx | there's no xorg to play with anymore | 17:22 |
| xTEMPLARx | xorg.conf that is | 17:22 |
| wrst | i don't know much and didn't disappoint in my expectations of myself :) | 17:22 |
| xTEMPLARx | I tried to get him to watch the boot process rather than go splash so maybe we could see any errors that way | 17:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | but to no avail | 17:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | I don't recall if he was able to get that to work or not | 17:23 |
| cyberanger | well, that's not much a clue without some extra knowledge, after all, I could have a friend over 10 months later issue sudo rf -Rf /* | 17:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | brb rebooting to install new CPU | 17:23 |
| cyberanger | and fry my system (well, technically, no, but that's cause I lock down too damn well for that) | 17:23 |
| cyberanger | xorg conf makes sense, I think that's been shifted around a bit | 17:24 |
| cyberanger | he can boot into recovery mode, can he hit the network? | 17:25 |
| * cyberanger is so glad he created a local mirror, it's saved my but on a few projects this week | 17:27 | |
| Xpistos | Morning all | 17:32 |
| Xpistos | Wrst | 17:32 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: hey Xpistos | 17:33 |
| xTEMPLARx | wewt back | 17:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | morning Xpistos | 17:34 |
| Xpistos | hey wrst | 17:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | went from a single core 2.4 ghz (or so) to a dual core 3.4ghz | 17:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | that works | 17:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | noticeable diff | 17:34 |
| xTEMPLARx | er 2.66ghz was the old | 17:34 |
| cyberanger | xTEMPLARx: woah | 17:42 |
| cyberanger | wrst: you tried, sometimes that's all you can do | 17:43 |
| cyberanger | xTEMPLARx: I think we should compare computers sometime, perhaps behind the really really dark alley next to the kwick-e-mart | 17:44 |
| * cyberanger hopes somebody gets that joke | 17:45 | |
| cyberanger | I'll stand near the el barto graffiti | 17:45 |
| Xpistos | Hey is there a way I can download a list of the software installed and then upload it to a new installation? | 17:57 |
| Xpistos | I have a lot of software installed and it takes a while to reinstall | 17:58 |
| cyberanger | you want a list of packages you have installed, and you want to install every package on the new one? | 17:59 |
| cyberanger | it can be done, but defeats the purpose of a clean install somewhat | 18:00 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: is that right? ^^ | 18:00 |
| Xpistos | yes. | 18:00 |
| Xpistos | don't worry about it then | 18:00 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: that's easy, dpkg --get-selections | 18:02 |
| Xpistos | but I can upload it in natty | 18:02 |
| Xpistos | damn | 18:02 |
| Xpistos | i can't upload it in natty | 18:02 |
| cyberanger | actually, a little cleanup wouldn't hurt | 18:02 |
| cyberanger | upload it? | 18:02 |
| Xpistos | I will just make a note and do eveything in a script from the terminal | 18:03 |
| cyberanger | dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1 | 18:03 |
| Xpistos | besides i don't get how to keep the config files so I redo everything | 18:03 |
| cyberanger | and you can upload that to pastebin, and that's helpful | 18:03 |
| cyberanger | any non-default configs, yeah | 18:04 |
| cyberanger | but that might not be alot | 18:04 |
| cyberanger | or at least having a package list will help when you need a tool you had | 18:04 |
| Xpistos | what am I uploading | 18:04 |
| cyberanger | that list, if I understood your issue in uploading | 18:05 |
| cyberanger | 13:02:29 Xpistos | i can't upload it in natty | 18:05 |
| cyberanger | dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us | 18:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | cyberanger: lol.. this machine isn't much to look at...its a basic intel desktop mobo that caps out at a whopping 2gb of ram | 18:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | so i've been sneaking parts from defunct machines around the office trying to boost it up any way that I can | 18:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | its got a good video card in it, and now a better cpu | 18:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | its definitely faster than it was | 18:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | but not nearly as fast as my home machine with the quad-core | 18:06 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: that's the exact line I use, grabs all the packages, strips out any extra info, and sends it to sprunge.us, a pastebin site | 18:06 |
| cyberanger | all without xorg | 18:07 |
| cyberanger | xTEMPLARx: so, capps out at double my desktop, 1.4 my processer on that rig too, and it's not integrated graphics, hrm | 18:07 |
| xTEMPLARx | cyberanger: is that a full-blown desktop machine, or a mini-lappy? | 18:09 |
| Xpistos | sprunge.us/JMaK | 18:11 |
| cyberanger | emachines t5224 | 18:12 |
| cyberanger | networking has been upgraded, built to (poorly attempt to) run (very flawed software called) vista | 18:13 |
| cyberanger | first thing I did was reach into my box o'cds, down the road I've turned it into a server/router, with minimal desktop, as purely a backup, for if my main desktops and laptops fail | 18:14 |
| cyberanger | now has three nic's and holds an ubuntu mirror, dns and ntp server, and my main testing righ | 18:15 |
| Xpistos | Stupid windows mail | 18:19 |
| Xpistos | "My Email Doesn't work!" No idiot your Outlook doesn't work. Your emial is fine | 18:19 |
| cyberanger | lol | 18:21 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: that's your package list, now on the new install, wget sprunge.us/JMaK && cat JMaK | xargs sudo apt-get -y install | 18:23 |
| cyberanger | oh, and I'd run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade BEFORE that, it helps | 18:23 |
| cyberanger | as for WinMail, I'm ducking behind the "This is a Linux Channel disclaimer" unless he's trying to convert over to linux | 18:24 |
| * cyberanger has had his own WinDOS thrils today | 18:25 | |
| cyberanger | Windows makes me want to "Accidentally Discharge" my weapon into a few computers | 18:27 |
| Xpistos | I am trying this package thing to see if it works | 18:32 |
| Xpistos | how long will it stay at sprunge | 18:32 |
| Xpistos | wait gotta go lunch | 18:32 |
| Xpistos | bbl | 18:32 |
| cyberanger | hehe, darn timing | 18:38 |
| cyberanger | wrapped my head too far into 4sq hacking | 18:38 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: hard to say, I can hold onto a copy on my server for you if you'd like | 18:39 |
| cyberanger | just to be sure | 18:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | cyberanger: sounds like you've found a great purpose for the box | 19:02 |
| vychune | o/ | 19:03 |
| cyberanger | xTEMPLARx: yeah, it's got enough power to get me to the moon, just like appolo 13 | 19:03 |
| xTEMPLARx | =] | 19:11 |
| vychune | i dont get it? | 19:13 |
| cyberanger | I just hope it'd fair better than Appolo 13, there was an issue in the Oxygen system | 19:19 |
| cyberanger | and the computing power was a watch and calculator | 19:20 |
| vychune | lol | 19:26 |
| Xpistos | I's back | 19:37 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: | 19:37 |
| cyberanger | 13:39:20 cyberanger | Xpistos: hard to say, I can hold onto a copy on my server for you if you'd like ? | 19:37 |
| cyberanger | 13:39:26 cyberanger | just to be sure | 19:37 |
| Xpistos | cyberanger: Nah don't worry about that | 19:40 |
| Xpistos | I am making ready for when 11.04 is ready | 19:40 |
| Xpistos | I am going from 10.04 to 11.04 | 19:40 |
| cyberanger | gotta goto 10.10 too | 19:45 |
| Xpistos | nope | 19:46 |
| Xpistos | fresh install | 19:46 |
| Xpistos | I never upgrade | 19:46 |
| cyberanger | ah, have at it | 19:48 |
| cyberanger | ;-) | 19:48 |
| cyberanger | and you've got a few months | 19:48 |
| cyberanger | about two | 19:49 |
| cyberanger | somebody did something stupid, medical chopper | 20:22 |
| chibihogoshino | cyberanger: you know how to install HughesNet ? | 21:05 |
| chibihogoshino | http://knoxville.craigslist.org/trd/2233980020.html ^^ | 21:06 |
| cyberanger | chibihogoshino: yeah, well, did (doesn't change that much, but training would have to be redone offically) | 21:08 |
| chibihogoshino | ah | 21:08 |
| cyberanger | yeah, but it might be enough for them | 21:09 |
| chibihogoshino | i like the email address .. heh | 21:09 |
| chibihogoshino | hmm.. i just looked at the price.. 130 per job.. | 21:11 |
| chibihogoshino | with county diving that wouldnt be much after gas. | 21:12 |
| cyberanger | yeah, and huntsville, al contact info | 21:12 |
| cyberanger | it's off | 21:12 |
| cyberanger | unless they cover gas and milage too | 21:12 |
| cyberanger | which I doubt | 21:13 |
| chibihogoshino | yeah | 21:13 |
| cyberanger | well, milage I don't but gas | 21:13 |
| cyberanger | huntsville contact info, work is north and east | 21:14 |
| cyberanger | I'm south (cleveland) and south and east (maryville) | 21:14 |
| cyberanger | kinda odd distance for them | 21:15 |
| chibihogoshino | yeah | 21:15 |
| chibihogoshino | blue could be covering the other stuff | 21:15 |
| cyberanger | as in wildblue? | 21:16 |
| chibihogoshino | yeah | 21:16 |
| cyberanger | doubtful, distrobution isn't that way | 21:16 |
| chibihogoshino | oh | 21:16 |
| cyberanger | and some dealers sell and install both | 21:17 |
| cyberanger | they're competitors, like comcast and charter, only location doesn't matter (for the 48) | 21:17 |
| cyberanger | alaska can't use wildblue, and hughesnet's older systems can be used in canada, alough your not supposed to | 21:18 |
| cyberanger | for the most part it's like dish and directv | 21:19 |
| chibihogoshino | they need to improve latency | 21:19 |
| cyberanger | well, there's limits to what they do | 21:20 |
| cyberanger | pay more for idirect, less users per satellite, very high cost | 21:20 |
| cyberanger | and bear in mind the distance between nodes | 21:21 |
| chibihogoshino | yeah | 21:21 |
| cyberanger | your house, up, and down to the noc, then fiber lines to whereever | 21:21 |
| cyberanger | between the inherent latency of satellite, and their user satellite ratio ( which is why costs are low, but service standards too) | 21:22 |
| cyberanger | only so much they can do (and I can do it, but they don't offically) | 21:22 |
| cyberanger | for example, squid proxy as much as you can, insure updates happen through it, and only during the download peroid | 21:23 |
| cyberanger | run dns locally (which they make annoyingly hard, understandably for most people) | 21:23 |
| chibihogoshino | brb.. school but got in a wreck at the corner | 21:24 |
| cyberanger | yikes | 21:25 |
| chibihogoshino | school bus driver dont know how to drive | 21:27 |
| cyberanger | sounds like it | 21:28 |
| cyberanger | granted, the kids don't help all the time | 21:28 |
| chibihogoshino | no kids on the buss | 21:29 |
| chibihogoshino | and the buss had a stop sign | 21:30 |
| cyberanger | hrm | 21:30 |
| chibihogoshino | my brother was walking to the front door when it happened | 21:30 |
| chibihogoshino | i used to develop film for cota columbus ohio transit authority .. | 21:32 |
| chibihogoshino | bus drivers cant drive | 21:33 |
| cyberanger | ohio and tennessee, agreed | 21:34 |
| cyberanger | pennslyvania seemed to do better | 21:34 |
| chibihogoshino | i know its hard to see sometimes but when you have a bus cut a car in half smashed in between a lamp post .. i would think that would be kinda hard to do. | 21:36 |
| chibihogoshino | debian is dyeing ? | 21:37 |
| cyberanger | really? debian dieing | 21:38 |
| chibihogoshino | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/debian-is-dying-oh-my-word/ | 21:38 |
| chibihogoshino | but then, what id ubuntu going to do if they are not around anymore to set the foundation ... mmmmmm | 21:39 |
| cyberanger | read further | 21:41 |
| cyberanger | it's the usual flame war crud that happens from time to time | 21:42 |
| chibihogoshino | ah.. yeah | 21:43 |
| chibihogoshino | i want a dark fiber network | 21:46 |
| * cyberanger hands chibihogoshino some fiber optic cable, power not included | 21:47 | |
| chibihogoshino | damn | 21:47 |
| cyberanger | there, dark fiber ;-) | 21:47 |
| chibihogoshino | it would be cool to have it ran in a house | 21:48 |
| * cyberanger hands chibihogoshino a couple of hooks | 21:49 | |
| chibihogoshino | this plane keeps flying over the area really low | 21:51 |
| cyberanger | what kind, where at? | 21:55 |
| chibihogoshino | ill get a pic | 21:55 |
| chibihogoshino | whats the photo past bin ? | 22:02 |
| chibihogoshino | n/m found it | 22:02 |
| cyberanger | there's a few | 22:03 |
| cyberanger | oh | 22:03 |
| chibihogoshino | not not | 22:04 |
| chibihogoshino | http://imagebin.org/139918 | 22:06 |
| cyberanger | location? | 22:07 |
| chibihogoshino | above my house | 22:07 |
| cyberanger | darn, can't make out the emblem or a partial tail number | 22:07 |
| cyberanger | well, was hoping for more, odd for a low level flight like that in a populated area | 22:08 |
| chibihogoshino | now a helicopter | 22:08 |
| cyberanger | ultralight trike is common, but populated like knoxville no way | 22:08 |
| cyberanger | and that's not a helio or trike, but a cessna or similar | 22:08 |
| chibihogoshino | yeah | 22:10 |
| chibihogoshino | it was doing that last week too | 22:10 |
| chibihogoshino | i just didnt think about taking a pic | 22:10 |
| cyberanger | air sampling perhaps, but that doesn't feel right for that plane | 22:11 |
| cyberanger | are you oak ridge, or lenior city, downtown.... | 22:11 |
| chibihogoshino | knoxville | 22:11 |
| chibihogoshino | 10 min from download | 22:11 |
| chibihogoshino | downtown | 22:11 |
| chibihogoshino | i was thinking last week it could be new survey maps | 22:16 |
| cyberanger | possible, it's within approach for tys and dkx | 22:23 |
| cyberanger | so they'd want some reason like that to justify flight level | 22:23 |
| cyberanger | toss in the usual homeland security bit, I'd rule out tourism | 22:24 |
| cyberanger | seems low for survey maps, but again, approach might dictate that | 22:24 |
| chibihogoshino | traffic ? do they still use them for that ? | 22:28 |
| cyberanger | thought that was an ohio thing | 22:34 |
| cyberanger | they might, but not that obivious | 22:36 |
| chibihogoshino | why would it matter if it was obvious ? | 22:40 |
| cyberanger | too lowo low | 22:41 |
| chibihogoshino | for traffic ? | 22:42 |
| cyberanger | if you can read the tail numbers yeah | 22:45 |
| cyberanger | and they're usually rual interstate | 22:45 |
| chibihogoshino | ah | 22:45 |
| cyberanger | straight line, predictable flight path, thus easier to submit a flight plan | 22:46 |
| chibihogoshino | they flew strait over twice and then around a few times .. | 22:50 |
| chibihogoshino | could of been another accident.. life flight landed not far from here | 22:51 |
| chibihogoshino | http://imgur.com/gallery/2OsGh | 23:32 |
| chibihogoshino | that has to be hot | 23:32 |
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