[00:00] orias: cyberanger is :) [00:01] * cyberanger grabs wrst and drags him into another room for a moment, don't mind the screaming folks [00:02] * cyberanger kids [00:02] orias: what's the issue [00:02] ha ha well cyberanger just stating the truth you are good with iptables :) [00:03] * cyberanger sees why netritious disconnects, oh well, I love IRC too much [00:06] o/ [00:06] ha ha [00:06] greetings vychune [00:06] thanks cyberanger [00:06] i now have a mac mini [00:07] well setting up iptables for the first time and i think i blocked all outgoing traffic :) [00:07] \0/ [00:07] lol [00:07] can i run my iptables rules by ya? [00:07] how's the mac mini? [00:08] and I do like helping, just sometimes helping myself too ;-) [00:08] np take your time [00:08] orias: if it's alot of rules, pastebin it [00:08] the great google is speaking in toungues today, so its not as helpful [00:08] don't mind looking [00:08] just 5 [00:08] :( [00:08] pm? [00:09] pm works too, 5 isn't alot [00:09] sweet [00:09] I think I';ve got 30 lines [00:09] and should actually have more [00:09] I was more giving wrst a hard time [00:10] * wrst is used to being given a hard time [00:16] this mac is so god i forgot i had this open [00:16] lol [00:16] good even lol [00:28] whats everyone else up to? [00:28] you name it, it's probally on my list [00:28] lol [00:29] web design? [00:30] minor, yeah :-/ [00:30] awwwwwwwwwwwwww [01:17] no sirens for you guys? [01:36] nope [01:37] lol [01:38] eh ? [01:38] sirens ? [12:54] everyone ok after the weather last night? [13:13] I'll tell you when I'm sure it's over [13:13] but so fare so good [13:28] the wind is still blowing here cyberanger, but looks like that's about all that happened to us [13:35] we had alot of rain [13:35] and with the ridgeline, wind is worse [13:36] it's not over and the cloud cover hasn't shifted enough either === xTEMPLARx_ is now known as xTEMPLARx [14:33] mawnin, all [14:42] hey xTEMPLARx [14:43] :) [14:58] he xTEMPLARx [14:59] howdy senor wrst [14:59] how are you doing xTEMPLARx? [15:00] not too awful [15:00] :) [15:00] how's wrst today? [15:01] good, i'm still here and didn't blow away :) [15:01] hehe [15:01] the storm woke me up last night [15:01] but I didn't see any damage on our house [15:01] I didn't think to go around back and check the crawlspace hatches tho [15:01] hrmm [15:29] we had cushions on our front porch to blow off but luckily they were so water logged the 300MPH winds couldn't pick them up :) [16:03] haha [16:03] wrst: exaggerate much? [16:03] wrst we only had two empty trash cans get blown over [16:05] I think it stressed one of the window frames [16:05] hand't checked further, expect more [16:06] wrst: glad you didn't have issues [16:07] xTEMPLARx: and you got luckly with trash cans [16:10] well, thats all I noticed this morning... I didn't do a complete walkaround to inspect :) [16:11] same, but I think it wasn't over at the time (sky still suggests more, but not as it did) [16:14] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/battery-applet-status-ubuntu/ [16:14] nice [16:17] that is very cool chibihogoshino [16:17] yeah [16:18] i like how it can manage the cpu speed too [16:18] yeah be nice if they would use that in natty [16:18] i wonder how it will work on xfce [16:22] ? i don't know :) [16:39] hmm.. i have the xfce power manager running and this at the same time [16:42] does the power manager control the cpu fan ? [16:44] if there is an ACPI setting, I suspect so [17:10] hey wrst [17:10] did starspot ever get his KDE working again? [17:11] I don't know i was wondering about that this mornign [17:11] *morning [17:11] hrm [17:11] i hope so [17:11] i mean its not that painful to reinstall, but its gotta be something simple [17:11] yeah he needs a little patience :) [17:11] i had a bunch of packages on this box hosed up to the point that the system wouldn't allow updates or dist-upgrades to take place [17:12] i was getting close to wiping and reinstalling, but I finally figured it out and am glad I did [17:12] its not hard to re-do, but I invariably miss something and since this is my work box, I don't need any more downtime than I have to have [17:14] what's wrong with it [17:14] ? [17:15] hate to see him reinstall if it's too minor, he might want to try sudo adduser Svpernova09-test [17:15] then login under that account [17:16] then it's clear if it's a config file under $HOME [17:19] problem is he can't log in [17:20] at the grub level, he can use his keyboard and touchpad (compaq laptop) [17:20] but once it goes GUI on him, the KB and touchpad are dead and nonresponsive [17:20] can't even ctrl-alt-F2 to terminal [17:21] had him trying a few things to see if it could get past that, but nothing seemed to work. He could boot from the LiveCD and it worked fine [17:21] not sure if he installed Kubuntu or regular and then added KDE [17:21] can he boot into grub's recovery mode? [17:21] another clue: it had been working for about 10 months and then developed this problem [17:21] yeah [17:21] recovery mode worked, but honestly I didn't have much for him to try at that point [17:22] it was wrst and I helpin the poor guy [17:22] and I know a lot of stuff, but I had no clue on this one [17:22] there's no xorg to play with anymore [17:22] xorg.conf that is [17:22] i don't know much and didn't disappoint in my expectations of myself :) [17:23] I tried to get him to watch the boot process rather than go splash so maybe we could see any errors that way [17:23] but to no avail [17:23] I don't recall if he was able to get that to work or not [17:23] well, that's not much a clue without some extra knowledge, after all, I could have a friend over 10 months later issue sudo rf -Rf /* [17:23] brb rebooting to install new CPU [17:23] and fry my system (well, technically, no, but that's cause I lock down too damn well for that) [17:24] xorg conf makes sense, I think that's been shifted around a bit [17:25] he can boot into recovery mode, can he hit the network? [17:27] * cyberanger is so glad he created a local mirror, it's saved my but on a few projects this week [17:32] Morning all [17:32] Wrst [17:33] Xpistos: hey Xpistos [17:34] wewt back [17:34] morning Xpistos [17:34] hey wrst [17:34] went from a single core 2.4 ghz (or so) to a dual core 3.4ghz [17:34] that works [17:34] noticeable diff [17:34] er 2.66ghz was the old [17:42] xTEMPLARx: woah [17:43] wrst: you tried, sometimes that's all you can do [17:44] xTEMPLARx: I think we should compare computers sometime, perhaps behind the really really dark alley next to the kwick-e-mart [17:45] * cyberanger hopes somebody gets that joke [17:45] I'll stand near the el barto graffiti [17:57] Hey is there a way I can download a list of the software installed and then upload it to a new installation? [17:58] I have a lot of software installed and it takes a while to reinstall [17:59] you want a list of packages you have installed, and you want to install every package on the new one? [18:00] it can be done, but defeats the purpose of a clean install somewhat [18:00] Xpistos: is that right? ^^ [18:00] yes. [18:00] don't worry about it then [18:02] Xpistos: that's easy, dpkg --get-selections [18:02] but I can upload it in natty [18:02] damn [18:02] i can't upload it in natty [18:02] actually, a little cleanup wouldn't hurt [18:02] upload it? [18:03] I will just make a note and do eveything in a script from the terminal [18:03] dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1 [18:03] besides i don't get how to keep the config files so I redo everything [18:03] and you can upload that to pastebin, and that's helpful [18:04] any non-default configs, yeah [18:04] but that might not be alot [18:04] or at least having a package list will help when you need a tool you had [18:04] what am I uploading [18:05] that list, if I understood your issue in uploading [18:05] 13:02:29 Xpistos | i can't upload it in natty [18:05] dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us [18:05] cyberanger: lol.. this machine isn't much to look at...its a basic intel desktop mobo that caps out at a whopping 2gb of ram [18:06] so i've been sneaking parts from defunct machines around the office trying to boost it up any way that I can [18:06] its got a good video card in it, and now a better cpu [18:06] its definitely faster than it was [18:06] but not nearly as fast as my home machine with the quad-core [18:06] Xpistos: that's the exact line I use, grabs all the packages, strips out any extra info, and sends it to sprunge.us, a pastebin site [18:07] all without xorg [18:07] xTEMPLARx: so, capps out at double my desktop, 1.4 my processer on that rig too, and it's not integrated graphics, hrm [18:09] cyberanger: is that a full-blown desktop machine, or a mini-lappy? [18:11] sprunge.us/JMaK [18:12] emachines t5224 [18:13] networking has been upgraded, built to (poorly attempt to) run (very flawed software called) vista [18:14] first thing I did was reach into my box o'cds, down the road I've turned it into a server/router, with minimal desktop, as purely a backup, for if my main desktops and laptops fail [18:15] now has three nic's and holds an ubuntu mirror, dns and ntp server, and my main testing righ [18:19] Stupid windows mail [18:19] "My Email Doesn't work!" No idiot your Outlook doesn't work. Your emial is fine [18:21] lol [18:23] Xpistos: that's your package list, now on the new install, wget sprunge.us/JMaK && cat JMaK | xargs sudo apt-get -y install [18:23] oh, and I'd run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade BEFORE that, it helps [18:24] as for WinMail, I'm ducking behind the "This is a Linux Channel disclaimer" unless he's trying to convert over to linux [18:25] * cyberanger has had his own WinDOS thrils today [18:27] Windows makes me want to "Accidentally Discharge" my weapon into a few computers [18:32] I am trying this package thing to see if it works [18:32] how long will it stay at sprunge [18:32] wait gotta go lunch [18:32] bbl [18:38] hehe, darn timing [18:38] wrapped my head too far into 4sq hacking [18:39] Xpistos: hard to say, I can hold onto a copy on my server for you if you'd like [18:39] just to be sure [19:02] cyberanger: sounds like you've found a great purpose for the box [19:03] o/ [19:03] xTEMPLARx: yeah, it's got enough power to get me to the moon, just like appolo 13 [19:11] =] [19:13] i dont get it? [19:19] I just hope it'd fair better than Appolo 13, there was an issue in the Oxygen system [19:20] and the computing power was a watch and calculator [19:26] lol [19:37] I's back [19:37] Xpistos: [19:37] 13:39:20 cyberanger | Xpistos: hard to say, I can hold onto a copy on my server for you if you'd like ? [19:37] 13:39:26 cyberanger | just to be sure [19:40] cyberanger: Nah don't worry about that [19:40] I am making ready for when 11.04 is ready [19:40] I am going from 10.04 to 11.04 [19:45] gotta goto 10.10 too [19:46] nope [19:46] fresh install [19:46] I never upgrade [19:48] ah, have at it [19:48] ;-) [19:48] and you've got a few months [19:49] about two [20:22] somebody did something stupid, medical chopper [21:05] cyberanger: you know how to install HughesNet ? [21:06] http://knoxville.craigslist.org/trd/2233980020.html ^^ [21:08] chibihogoshino: yeah, well, did (doesn't change that much, but training would have to be redone offically) [21:08] ah [21:09] yeah, but it might be enough for them [21:09] i like the email address .. heh [21:11] hmm.. i just looked at the price.. 130 per job.. [21:12] with county diving that wouldnt be much after gas. [21:12] yeah, and huntsville, al contact info [21:12] it's off [21:12] unless they cover gas and milage too [21:13] which I doubt [21:13] yeah [21:13] well, milage I don't but gas [21:14] huntsville contact info, work is north and east [21:14] I'm south (cleveland) and south and east (maryville) [21:15] kinda odd distance for them [21:15] yeah [21:15] blue could be covering the other stuff [21:16] as in wildblue? [21:16] yeah [21:16] doubtful, distrobution isn't that way [21:16] oh [21:17] and some dealers sell and install both [21:17] they're competitors, like comcast and charter, only location doesn't matter (for the 48) [21:18] alaska can't use wildblue, and hughesnet's older systems can be used in canada, alough your not supposed to [21:19] for the most part it's like dish and directv [21:19] they need to improve latency [21:20] well, there's limits to what they do [21:20] pay more for idirect, less users per satellite, very high cost [21:21] and bear in mind the distance between nodes [21:21] yeah [21:21] your house, up, and down to the noc, then fiber lines to whereever [21:22] between the inherent latency of satellite, and their user satellite ratio ( which is why costs are low, but service standards too) [21:22] only so much they can do (and I can do it, but they don't offically) [21:23] for example, squid proxy as much as you can, insure updates happen through it, and only during the download peroid [21:23] run dns locally (which they make annoyingly hard, understandably for most people) [21:24] brb.. school but got in a wreck at the corner [21:25] yikes [21:27] school bus driver dont know how to drive [21:28] sounds like it [21:28] granted, the kids don't help all the time [21:29] no kids on the buss [21:30] and the buss had a stop sign [21:30] hrm [21:30] my brother was walking to the front door when it happened [21:32] i used to develop film for cota columbus ohio transit authority .. [21:33] bus drivers cant drive [21:34] ohio and tennessee, agreed [21:34] pennslyvania seemed to do better [21:36] i know its hard to see sometimes but when you have a bus cut a car in half smashed in between a lamp post .. i would think that would be kinda hard to do. [21:37] debian is dyeing ? [21:38] really? debian dieing [21:38] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/debian-is-dying-oh-my-word/ [21:39] but then, what id ubuntu going to do if they are not around anymore to set the foundation ... mmmmmm [21:41] read further [21:42] it's the usual flame war crud that happens from time to time [21:43] ah.. yeah [21:46] i want a dark fiber network [21:47] * cyberanger hands chibihogoshino some fiber optic cable, power not included [21:47] damn [21:47] there, dark fiber ;-) [21:48] it would be cool to have it ran in a house [21:49] * cyberanger hands chibihogoshino a couple of hooks [21:51] this plane keeps flying over the area really low [21:55] what kind, where at? [21:55] ill get a pic [22:02] whats the photo past bin ? [22:02] n/m found it [22:03] there's a few [22:03] oh [22:04] not not [22:06] http://imagebin.org/139918 [22:07] location? [22:07] above my house [22:07] darn, can't make out the emblem or a partial tail number [22:08] well, was hoping for more, odd for a low level flight like that in a populated area [22:08] now a helicopter [22:08] ultralight trike is common, but populated like knoxville no way [22:08] and that's not a helio or trike, but a cessna or similar [22:10] yeah [22:10] it was doing that last week too [22:10] i just didnt think about taking a pic [22:11] air sampling perhaps, but that doesn't feel right for that plane [22:11] are you oak ridge, or lenior city, downtown.... [22:11] knoxville [22:11] 10 min from download [22:11] downtown [22:16] i was thinking last week it could be new survey maps [22:23] possible, it's within approach for tys and dkx [22:23] so they'd want some reason like that to justify flight level [22:24] toss in the usual homeland security bit, I'd rule out tourism [22:24] seems low for survey maps, but again, approach might dictate that [22:28] traffic ? do they still use them for that ? [22:34] thought that was an ohio thing [22:36] they might, but not that obivious [22:40] why would it matter if it was obvious ? [22:41] too lowo low [22:42] for traffic ? [22:45] if you can read the tail numbers yeah [22:45] and they're usually rual interstate [22:45] ah [22:46] straight line, predictable flight path, thus easier to submit a flight plan [22:50] they flew strait over twice and then around a few times .. [22:51] could of been another accident.. life flight landed not far from here [23:32] http://imgur.com/gallery/2OsGh [23:32] that has to be hot