[00:00] <wrst> orias: cyberanger is :)
[00:01]  * cyberanger grabs wrst and drags him into another room for a moment, don't mind the screaming folks
[00:02]  * cyberanger kids
[00:02] <cyberanger> orias: what's the issue
[00:02] <wrst> ha ha well cyberanger just stating the truth you are good with iptables :)
[00:03]  * cyberanger sees why netritious disconnects, oh well, I love IRC too much
[00:06] <vychune> o/
[00:06] <wrst> ha ha
[00:06] <wrst> greetings vychune
[00:06] <orias> thanks cyberanger
[00:06] <vychune> i now have a mac mini
[00:07] <orias> well setting up iptables for the first time and i think i blocked all outgoing traffic :)
[00:07] <orias> \0/
[00:07] <vychune> lol
[00:07] <orias> can i run my iptables rules by ya?
[00:07] <orias> how's the mac mini?
[00:08] <cyberanger> and I do like helping, just sometimes helping myself too ;-)
[00:08] <orias> np take your time
[00:08] <cyberanger> orias: if it's alot of rules, pastebin it
[00:08] <orias> the great google is speaking in toungues today, so its not as helpful
[00:08] <cyberanger> don't mind looking
[00:08] <orias> just 5
[00:08] <orias> :(
[00:08] <orias> pm?
[00:09] <cyberanger> pm works too, 5 isn't alot
[00:09] <orias> sweet
[00:09] <cyberanger> I think I';ve got 30 lines
[00:09] <cyberanger> and should actually have more
[00:09] <cyberanger> I was more giving wrst a hard time
[00:10]  * wrst is used to being given a hard time
[00:16] <vychune> this mac is so god i forgot i had this open
[00:16] <vychune>  lol
[00:16] <vychune> good even lol
[00:28] <vychune> whats everyone else up to?
[00:28] <cyberanger> you name it, it's probally on my list
[00:28] <vychune> lol
[00:29] <vychune> web design?
[00:30] <cyberanger> minor, yeah :-/
[00:30] <vychune> awwwwwwwwwwwwww
[01:17] <vychune> no sirens for you guys?
[01:36] <cyberanger> nope
[01:37] <vychune> lol
[01:38] <chibihogoshino> eh ?
[01:38] <chibihogoshino> sirens ?
[12:54] <wrst> everyone ok after the weather last night?
[13:13] <cyberanger> I'll tell you when I'm sure it's over
[13:13] <cyberanger> but so fare so good
[13:28] <wrst> the wind is still blowing here cyberanger, but looks like that's about all that happened to us
[13:35] <cyberanger> we had alot of rain
[13:35] <cyberanger> and with the ridgeline, wind is worse
[13:36] <cyberanger> it's not over and the cloud cover hasn't shifted enough either
[14:33] <xTEMPLARx> mawnin, all
[14:42] <cyberanger> hey xTEMPLARx
[14:43] <xTEMPLARx> :)
[14:58] <wrst> he xTEMPLARx
[14:59] <xTEMPLARx> howdy senor wrst
[14:59] <wrst> how are you doing xTEMPLARx?
[15:00] <xTEMPLARx> not too awful
[15:00] <xTEMPLARx> :)
[15:00] <xTEMPLARx> how's wrst today?
[15:01] <wrst> good, i'm still here and didn't blow away :)
[15:01] <xTEMPLARx> hehe
[15:01] <xTEMPLARx> the storm woke me up last night
[15:01] <xTEMPLARx> but I didn't see any damage on our house
[15:01] <xTEMPLARx> I didn't think to go around back and check the crawlspace hatches tho
[15:01] <xTEMPLARx> hrmm
[15:29] <wrst> we had cushions on our front porch to blow off but luckily they were so water logged the 300MPH winds couldn't pick them up :)
[16:03] <xTEMPLARx> haha
[16:03] <cyberanger> wrst: exaggerate much?
[16:03] <xTEMPLARx> wrst we only had two empty trash cans get blown over
[16:05] <cyberanger> I think it stressed one of the window frames
[16:05] <cyberanger> hand't checked further, expect more
[16:06] <cyberanger> wrst: glad you didn't have issues
[16:07] <cyberanger> xTEMPLARx: and you got luckly with trash cans
[16:10] <xTEMPLARx> well, thats all I noticed this morning... I didn't do a complete walkaround to inspect :)
[16:11] <cyberanger> same, but I think it wasn't over at the time (sky still suggests more, but not as it did)
[16:14] <chibihogoshino> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/battery-applet-status-ubuntu/
[16:14] <chibihogoshino> nice
[16:17] <wrst> that is very cool chibihogoshino
[16:17] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[16:18] <chibihogoshino> i like how it can manage the cpu speed too
[16:18] <wrst> yeah be nice if they would use that in natty
[16:18] <chibihogoshino> i wonder how it will work on xfce
[16:22] <wrst> ? i don't know :)
[16:39] <chibihogoshino> hmm.. i have the xfce power manager running and this at the same time
[16:42] <chibihogoshino>  does the power manager control the cpu fan ?
[16:44] <cyberanger> if there is an ACPI setting, I suspect so
[17:10] <xTEMPLARx> hey wrst
[17:10] <xTEMPLARx> did starspot ever get his KDE working again?
[17:11] <wrst> I don't know i was wondering about that this mornign
[17:11] <wrst> *morning
[17:11] <xTEMPLARx> hrm
[17:11] <xTEMPLARx> i hope so
[17:11] <xTEMPLARx> i mean its not that painful to reinstall, but its gotta be something simple
[17:11] <wrst> yeah he needs a little patience :)
[17:11] <xTEMPLARx> i had a bunch of packages on this box hosed up to the point that the system wouldn't allow updates or dist-upgrades to take place
[17:12] <xTEMPLARx> i was getting close to wiping and reinstalling, but I finally figured it out and am glad I did
[17:12] <xTEMPLARx> its not hard to re-do, but I invariably miss something and since this is my work box, I don't need any more downtime than I have to have
[17:14] <cyberanger> what's wrong with it
[17:14] <cyberanger> ?
[17:15] <cyberanger> hate to see him reinstall if it's too minor, he might want to try sudo adduser Svpernova09-test
[17:15] <cyberanger> then login under that account
[17:16] <cyberanger> then it's clear if it's a config file under $HOME
[17:19] <xTEMPLARx> problem is he can't log in
[17:20] <xTEMPLARx> at the grub level, he can use his keyboard and touchpad (compaq laptop)
[17:20] <xTEMPLARx> but once it goes GUI on him, the KB and touchpad are dead and nonresponsive
[17:20] <xTEMPLARx> can't even ctrl-alt-F2 to terminal
[17:21] <xTEMPLARx> had him trying a few things to see if it could get past that, but nothing seemed to work.  He could boot from the LiveCD and it worked fine
[17:21] <xTEMPLARx> not sure if he installed Kubuntu or regular and then added KDE
[17:21] <cyberanger> can he boot into grub's recovery mode?
[17:21] <xTEMPLARx> another clue:  it had been working for about 10 months and then developed this problem
[17:21] <xTEMPLARx> yeah
[17:21] <xTEMPLARx> recovery mode worked, but honestly I didn't have much for him to try at that point
[17:22] <xTEMPLARx> it was wrst and I helpin the poor guy
[17:22] <xTEMPLARx> and I know a lot of stuff, but I had no clue on this one
[17:22] <xTEMPLARx> there's no xorg to play with anymore
[17:22] <xTEMPLARx> xorg.conf that is
[17:22] <wrst> i don't know much and didn't disappoint in my expectations of myself :)
[17:23] <xTEMPLARx> I tried to get him to watch the boot process rather than go splash so maybe we could see any errors that way
[17:23] <xTEMPLARx> but to no avail
[17:23] <xTEMPLARx> I don't recall if he was able to get that to work or not
[17:23] <cyberanger> well, that's not much a clue without some extra knowledge, after all, I could have a friend over 10 months later issue sudo rf -Rf /*
[17:23] <xTEMPLARx> brb rebooting to install new CPU
[17:23] <cyberanger> and fry my system (well, technically, no, but that's cause I lock down too damn well for that)
[17:24] <cyberanger> xorg conf makes sense, I think that's been shifted around a bit
[17:25] <cyberanger> he can boot into recovery mode, can he hit the network?
[17:27]  * cyberanger is so glad he created a local mirror, it's saved my but on a few projects this week
[17:32] <Xpistos> Morning all
[17:32] <Xpistos> Wrst
[17:33] <cyberanger> Xpistos: hey Xpistos
[17:34] <xTEMPLARx> wewt back
[17:34] <xTEMPLARx> morning Xpistos
[17:34] <Xpistos> hey wrst
[17:34] <xTEMPLARx> went from a single core 2.4 ghz (or so) to a dual core 3.4ghz
[17:34] <xTEMPLARx> that works
[17:34] <xTEMPLARx> noticeable diff
[17:34] <xTEMPLARx> er 2.66ghz was the old
[17:42] <cyberanger> xTEMPLARx: woah
[17:43] <cyberanger> wrst: you tried, sometimes that's all you can do
[17:44] <cyberanger> xTEMPLARx: I think we should compare computers sometime, perhaps behind the really really dark alley next to the kwick-e-mart
[17:45]  * cyberanger hopes somebody gets that joke
[17:45] <cyberanger> I'll stand near the el barto graffiti
[17:57] <Xpistos> Hey is there a way I can download a list of the software installed and then upload it to a new installation?
[17:58] <Xpistos> I have a lot of software installed and it takes a while to reinstall
[17:59] <cyberanger> you want a list of packages you have installed, and you want to install every package on the new one?
[18:00] <cyberanger> it can be done, but defeats the purpose of a clean install somewhat
[18:00] <cyberanger> Xpistos: is that right? ^^
[18:00] <Xpistos> yes.
[18:00] <Xpistos> don't worry about it then
[18:02] <cyberanger> Xpistos: that's easy, dpkg --get-selections
[18:02] <Xpistos> but I can upload it in natty
[18:02] <Xpistos> damn
[18:02] <Xpistos> i can't upload it in natty
[18:02] <cyberanger> actually, a little cleanup wouldn't hurt
[18:02] <cyberanger> upload it?
[18:03] <Xpistos> I will just make a note and do eveything in a script from the terminal
[18:03] <cyberanger> dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1
[18:03] <Xpistos> besides i don't get how to keep the config files so I redo everything
[18:03] <cyberanger> and you can upload that to pastebin, and that's helpful
[18:04] <cyberanger> any non-default configs, yeah
[18:04] <cyberanger> but that might not be alot
[18:04] <cyberanger> or at least having a package list will help when you need a tool you had
[18:04] <Xpistos> what am I uploading
[18:05] <cyberanger> that list, if I understood your issue in uploading
[18:05] <cyberanger> 13:02:29        Xpistos | i can't upload it in natty
[18:05] <cyberanger> dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1  | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[18:05] <xTEMPLARx> cyberanger: lol.. this machine isn't much to look at...its a basic intel desktop mobo that caps out at a whopping 2gb of ram
[18:06] <xTEMPLARx> so i've been sneaking parts from defunct machines around the office trying to boost it up any way that I can
[18:06] <xTEMPLARx> its got a good video card in it, and now a better cpu
[18:06] <xTEMPLARx> its definitely faster than it was
[18:06] <xTEMPLARx> but not nearly as fast as my home machine with the quad-core
[18:06] <cyberanger> Xpistos: that's the exact line I use, grabs all the packages, strips out any extra info, and sends it to sprunge.us, a pastebin site
[18:07] <cyberanger> all without xorg
[18:07] <cyberanger> xTEMPLARx: so, capps out at double my desktop, 1.4 my processer on that rig too, and it's not integrated graphics, hrm
[18:09] <xTEMPLARx> cyberanger: is that a full-blown desktop machine, or a mini-lappy?
[18:11] <Xpistos> sprunge.us/JMaK
[18:12] <cyberanger> emachines t5224
[18:13] <cyberanger> networking has been upgraded, built to (poorly attempt to) run (very flawed software called) vista
[18:14] <cyberanger> first thing I did was reach into my box o'cds, down the road I've turned it into a server/router, with minimal desktop, as purely a backup, for if my main desktops and laptops fail
[18:15] <cyberanger> now has three nic's and holds an ubuntu mirror, dns and ntp server, and my main testing righ
[18:19] <Xpistos> Stupid windows mail
[18:19] <Xpistos> "My Email Doesn't work!" No idiot your Outlook doesn't work. Your emial is fine
[18:21] <cyberanger> lol
[18:23] <cyberanger> Xpistos: that's your package list, now on the new install, wget sprunge.us/JMaK && cat JMaK | xargs sudo apt-get -y install
[18:23] <cyberanger> oh, and I'd run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade BEFORE that, it helps
[18:24] <cyberanger> as for WinMail, I'm ducking behind the "This is a Linux Channel disclaimer" unless he's trying to convert over to linux
[18:25]  * cyberanger has had his own WinDOS thrils today
[18:27] <cyberanger> Windows makes me want to "Accidentally Discharge" my weapon into a few computers
[18:32] <Xpistos> I am trying this package thing to see if it works
[18:32] <Xpistos> how long will it stay at sprunge
[18:32] <Xpistos> wait gotta go lunch
[18:32] <Xpistos> bbl
[18:38] <cyberanger> hehe, darn timing
[18:38] <cyberanger> wrapped my head too far into 4sq hacking
[18:39] <cyberanger> Xpistos: hard to say, I can hold onto a copy on my server for you if you'd like
[18:39] <cyberanger> just to be sure
[19:02] <xTEMPLARx> cyberanger: sounds like you've found a great purpose for the box
[19:03] <vychune> o/
[19:03] <cyberanger> xTEMPLARx: yeah, it's got enough power to get me to the moon, just like appolo 13
[19:11] <xTEMPLARx> =]
[19:13] <vychune> i dont get it?
[19:19] <cyberanger> I just hope it'd fair better than Appolo 13, there was an issue in the Oxygen system
[19:20] <cyberanger> and the computing power was a watch and calculator
[19:26] <vychune> lol
[19:37] <Xpistos> I's back
[19:37] <cyberanger> Xpistos:
[19:37] <cyberanger> 13:39:20     cyberanger | Xpistos: hard to say, I can hold onto a copy on my server for you if you'd like                                      ?
[19:37] <cyberanger> 13:39:26     cyberanger | just to be sure
[19:40] <Xpistos> cyberanger: Nah don't worry about that
[19:40] <Xpistos> I am making ready for when 11.04 is ready
[19:40] <Xpistos> I am going from 10.04 to 11.04
[19:45] <cyberanger> gotta goto 10.10 too
[19:46] <Xpistos> nope
[19:46] <Xpistos> fresh install
[19:46] <Xpistos> I never upgrade
[19:48] <cyberanger> ah, have at it
[19:48] <cyberanger> ;-)
[19:48] <cyberanger> and you've got a few months
[19:49] <cyberanger> about two
[20:22] <cyberanger> somebody did something stupid, medical chopper
[21:05] <chibihogoshino> cyberanger: you know how to install HughesNet ?
[21:06] <chibihogoshino> http://knoxville.craigslist.org/trd/2233980020.html  ^^
[21:08] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: yeah, well, did (doesn't change that much, but training would have to be redone offically)
[21:08] <chibihogoshino> ah
[21:09] <cyberanger> yeah, but it might be enough for them
[21:09] <chibihogoshino> i like the email address .. heh
[21:11] <chibihogoshino> hmm.. i just looked at the price.. 130 per job..
[21:12] <chibihogoshino> with county diving that wouldnt be much after gas.
[21:12] <cyberanger> yeah, and huntsville, al contact info
[21:12] <cyberanger> it's off
[21:12] <cyberanger> unless they cover gas and milage too
[21:13] <cyberanger> which I doubt
[21:13] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[21:13] <cyberanger> well, milage I don't but gas
[21:14] <cyberanger> huntsville contact info, work is north and east
[21:14] <cyberanger> I'm south (cleveland) and south and east (maryville)
[21:15] <cyberanger> kinda odd distance for them
[21:15] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[21:15] <chibihogoshino> blue could be covering the other stuff
[21:16] <cyberanger> as in wildblue?
[21:16] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[21:16] <cyberanger> doubtful, distrobution isn't that way
[21:16] <chibihogoshino> oh
[21:17] <cyberanger> and some dealers sell and install both
[21:17] <cyberanger> they're competitors, like comcast and charter, only location doesn't matter (for the 48)
[21:18] <cyberanger> alaska can't use wildblue, and hughesnet's older systems can be used in canada, alough your not supposed to
[21:19] <cyberanger> for the most part it's like dish and directv
[21:19] <chibihogoshino> they need to improve latency
[21:20] <cyberanger> well, there's limits to what they do
[21:20] <cyberanger> pay more for idirect, less users per satellite, very high cost
[21:21] <cyberanger> and bear in mind the distance between nodes
[21:21] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[21:21] <cyberanger> your house, up, and down to the noc, then fiber lines to whereever
[21:22] <cyberanger> between the inherent latency of satellite, and their user satellite ratio ( which is why costs are low, but service standards too)
[21:22] <cyberanger> only so much they can do (and I can do it, but they don't offically)
[21:23] <cyberanger> for example, squid proxy as much as you can, insure updates happen through it, and only during the download peroid
[21:23] <cyberanger> run dns locally (which they make annoyingly hard, understandably for most people)
[21:24] <chibihogoshino> brb.. school but got in a wreck at the corner
[21:25] <cyberanger> yikes
[21:27] <chibihogoshino> school bus driver dont know how to drive
[21:28] <cyberanger> sounds like it
[21:28] <cyberanger> granted, the kids don't help all the time
[21:29] <chibihogoshino> no kids on the buss
[21:30] <chibihogoshino> and the buss had a stop sign
[21:30] <cyberanger> hrm
[21:30] <chibihogoshino> my brother was walking to the front door when it happened
[21:32] <chibihogoshino> i used to develop film for cota columbus ohio transit authority ..
[21:33] <chibihogoshino> bus drivers cant drive
[21:34] <cyberanger> ohio and tennessee, agreed
[21:34] <cyberanger> pennslyvania seemed to do better
[21:36] <chibihogoshino> i know its hard to see sometimes but when you have a bus cut a car in half smashed in between a lamp post .. i would think that would be kinda hard to do.
[21:37] <chibihogoshino> debian is dyeing ?
[21:38] <cyberanger> really? debian dieing
[21:38] <chibihogoshino> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/debian-is-dying-oh-my-word/
[21:39] <chibihogoshino> but then, what id ubuntu going to do if they are not around anymore to set the foundation ... mmmmmm
[21:41] <cyberanger> read further
[21:42] <cyberanger> it's the usual flame war crud that happens from time to time
[21:43] <chibihogoshino> ah.. yeah
[21:46] <chibihogoshino> i want a dark fiber network
[21:47]  * cyberanger hands chibihogoshino some fiber optic cable, power not included
[21:47] <chibihogoshino> damn
[21:47] <cyberanger> there, dark fiber ;-)
[21:48] <chibihogoshino> it would be cool to have it ran in a house
[21:49]  * cyberanger hands chibihogoshino a couple of hooks
[21:51] <chibihogoshino> this plane keeps flying over the area really low
[21:55] <cyberanger> what kind, where at?
[21:55] <chibihogoshino> ill get a pic
[22:02] <chibihogoshino> whats the photo past bin ?
[22:02] <chibihogoshino> n/m found it
[22:03] <cyberanger> there's a few
[22:03] <cyberanger> oh
[22:04] <chibihogoshino> not not
[22:06] <chibihogoshino> http://imagebin.org/139918
[22:07] <cyberanger> location?
[22:07] <chibihogoshino> above my house
[22:07] <cyberanger> darn, can't make out the emblem or a partial tail number
[22:08] <cyberanger> well, was hoping for more, odd for a low level flight like that in a populated area
[22:08] <chibihogoshino> now a helicopter
[22:08] <cyberanger> ultralight trike is common, but populated like knoxville no way
[22:08] <cyberanger> and that's not a helio or trike, but a cessna or similar
[22:10] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[22:10] <chibihogoshino> it was doing that last week too
[22:10] <chibihogoshino> i just didnt think about taking a pic
[22:11] <cyberanger> air sampling perhaps, but that doesn't feel right for that plane
[22:11] <cyberanger> are you oak ridge, or lenior city, downtown....
[22:11] <chibihogoshino> knoxville
[22:11] <chibihogoshino> 10 min from download
[22:11] <chibihogoshino> downtown
[22:16] <chibihogoshino> i was thinking last week it could be new survey maps
[22:23] <cyberanger> possible, it's within approach for tys and dkx
[22:23] <cyberanger> so they'd want some reason like that to justify flight level
[22:24] <cyberanger> toss in the usual homeland security bit, I'd rule out tourism
[22:24] <cyberanger> seems low for survey maps, but again, approach might dictate that
[22:28] <chibihogoshino> traffic ?  do they still use them for that ?
[22:34] <cyberanger> thought that was an ohio thing
[22:36] <cyberanger> they might, but not that obivious
[22:40] <chibihogoshino> why would it matter if it was obvious ?
[22:41] <cyberanger> too lowo low
[22:42] <chibihogoshino> for traffic ?
[22:45] <cyberanger> if you can read the tail numbers yeah
[22:45] <cyberanger> and they're usually rual interstate
[22:45] <chibihogoshino> ah
[22:46] <cyberanger> straight line, predictable flight path, thus easier to submit a flight plan
[22:50] <chibihogoshino> they flew strait over twice and then around a few times ..
[22:51] <chibihogoshino> could of been another accident.. life flight landed not far from here
[23:32] <chibihogoshino> http://imgur.com/gallery/2OsGh
[23:32] <chibihogoshino> that has to be hot