[01:50] <lalejand> Hi, is there a way to flush all my contacts on U1 server ?
[02:05] <lalejand> Hi, is there a way to flush all my contacts on U1 server ?
[02:11] <jamesh> lalejand: If you delete them locally, that should propagate when the database is replicated to the server
[02:11] <jamesh> (alternatively, deleting them through the web UI should get replicated locally)
[02:13] <lalejand> jamesh : I don't have any contact in my evo couchDB adressbook, and I almost instantly get a crash of the adressbook
[02:14] <lalejand> jamesh : I have some 2758 contacts in the web interface
[02:14] <lalejand> jamesh : and some contacts are not deletable. Contacts like "." or "/"
[02:15] <joejc18> my ubuntu one seems to have stopped uploading
[02:16] <joejc18> im starting to regret paying for this
[02:16] <jamesh> lalejand: you can get a behind the scenes view of the CouchDB backing store by running "xdg-open ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html" in the terminal
[02:17] <lalejand> jamesh : ok i'm in
[02:17] <jamesh> joejc18: pick the contacts database.  Does it look like you've got lots of records there?
[02:17] <jamesh> s/joejc18/lalejand/
[02:18] <lalejand> jamesh : yes, plenty
[02:18] <lalejand> jamesh : 2762 contacts
[02:18] <jamesh> joejc18: sorry.  For your question, could you try running "u1sdtool --status" in a terminal and give me a link to the output through http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[02:19] <joejc18> tate: QUEUE_MANAGER
[02:19] <joejc18>     connection: With User With Network
[02:19] <joejc18>     description: processing queues
[02:19] <joejc18>     is_connected: True
[02:19] <joejc18>     is_error: False
[02:19] <joejc18>     is_online: True
[02:19] <joejc18>     queues: WORKING_ON_CONTENT
[02:21] <lalejand> jamesh : i don't mind loosing all those contacts, locally and on U1 server
[02:21] <lalejand> jamesh : is there a way to flush ?
[02:22] <joejc18> it seem to working it just took 6 hours for 1 song to upload
[02:22] <jamesh> lalejand: okay.  Give me a moment and I'll put together a short script to do so.  We don't want to just delete the database because you'll just get everything back again on replication.
[02:22] <lalejand> jamesh : ok
[02:23] <jamesh> joejc18: if you think things have wedged, perhaps you could try telling the sync daemon to disconnect and then reconnect.  You should be able to do this through the Ubuntu One control panel, or I can give you u1sdtool commands to do this.
[02:23] <lalejand> jamesh : I don't know if it can be linked to this problem but each time I enter in my couchDB adressbook in Evo, e-adressbook-factory crashes
[02:24] <jamesh> lalejand: I'm just wondering if there is some corrupt data in one of the contacts that is tripping it up.
[02:24] <jamesh> lalejand: did you expect to have that many contacts?
[02:25] <joejc18> im gonna die of old age before i hit the 2gb and endup wasting a ton of money paying for the 20gb that isnt even enogh to hold all my music
[02:26] <lalejand> jamesh : no, I think what happened is that I activated a kind of plugin to add pidgin contacts in the evo adressbook and this coupled with the fact that I activated facebook chat in pidgin made that a whole quantity of dirty contacts came into the evo adressbook (contacts like ".", "/" or "2564542872")
[02:27] <lalejand> jamesh : so I have many contacts, but most of them are "dirty" contacts
[02:27] <joejc18> whats thw point of syncing contact thanks to google its always synced anyway
[02:27] <lalejand> joejc18 : is your connection speed ok ?
[02:28] <joejc18> no its bad... but not 6 hours for 1 song bad
[02:30] <lalejand> joejc18 : If you try to upload the same song on some ftp or file sharing website, is it faster ?
[02:30] <intrader> Anyone, unable to synchronize from Tomboy notes - also unable to bring up Ubuntu One Gnome applet
[02:31] <jamesh> lalejand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572013/ <- save this somewhere and run "python what_ever_you_called_the_file"
[02:31] <joejc18> yes, if i trained my to sing the songs id finish faster than ubuntu one seems to upload
[02:32] <jamesh> lalejand: note the comment at the top: I'd suggest backing up the database before hand just in case
[02:32] <lalejand> joejc18 : (i'm a U1 user, paying like you, but I try to help)
[02:32] <lalejand> jamesh : how can I backup ?
[02:33] <jamesh> lalejand: just copy the ~/.local/share/desktop-couch/contacts.couch file somewhere.
[02:33] <lalejand> joejc18 : maybe some other files are uploading before your song. If you do u1sdtool --current-transfer & u1sdtool --waiting-content, you will have some information
[02:33] <lalejand> jamesh : ok
[02:35] <joejc18> id ofer to pastebin the output but i cant even see most of it
[02:37] <joejc18> it seems to be faster now... its only gonna take around  295 days
[02:38] <lalejand> joejc18 : and if you do u1sdtool --waiting-content | grep someWordInTheMp3FileName does it write something ?
[02:38] <joejc18> im uploading my /Music i dont know what the specific mp3 is
[02:40] <lalejand> joejc18 : Ah ok
[02:40] <lalejand> joejc18 : how many Go ?
[02:41] <joejc18> 72Gb
[02:42] <lalejand> joejc18 : how much space did you buy on U1 ?
[02:42] <joejc18> ive uploaded 719mb so far
[02:42] <joejc18> 20, im not gonna buy it all at once
[02:44] <lalejand> joejc18 : so you are uploading right now 72Go of music in your 20Go U1 space ?
[02:44] <joejc18> yes
[02:45] <joejc18> once i get near 20 gb i will add more
[02:45] <lalejand> joejc18 : maybe U1 has problems to handle that
[02:45] <joejc18> so i should cancel it?
[02:46] <lalejand> joejc18 : if you cancel it and try to upload a quantity of music less than 20Go, can you see if it looks faster ?
[02:46] <joejc18> at the rate im going right now its gonna take 295 days im not going to buy space i cant use
[02:46] <lalejand> jamesh : the script finished his work, do I have to do something specific ?
[02:47] <jamesh> lalejand: You shouldn't need to.  Try evolution and see if you can add a contact.
[02:47] <joejc18> i meant cancel my account
[02:48] <lalejand> joejc18 : you said your connection is bad, I think if you try to upload 72Go of music on any ftp, it may last a long time also no ?
[02:48] <jamesh> lalejand: assuming replication is working properly, the deletions should make there way up to the cloud copy too.
[02:49] <lalejand> jamesh : I hope so
[02:50] <jamesh> joejc18: I'm sorry I can't be of more help.  Most of the team is asleep at the moment, and this isn't my area of expertise.  If you come back in European or US business hours there should be someone who can give better advice.
[02:50] <lalejand> joejc18 : try to upload a song on a ftp or a file sharing website, see how long it takes. Then cancel all U1 upload, and upload the same song to U1 to see if U1 is relly slower
[02:50] <joejc18> it would but 6 hours for one song is outrageous if it keeps slowing down that much i would have to cancel my account and stop the payment
[02:51] <lalejand> joejc18 : if you are uploading 72Go, how do you know it takes 6 hours for a specific song ?
[02:52] <joejc18> u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l
[02:52] <joejc18> the number didnt go down for 6 hours
[02:52] <joejc18> and stored content didnt go up
[02:53] <lalejand> joejc18 : I don't know this command, what does it do ?
[02:53] <joejc18> it shows the number of file waiting to be synced
[02:53] <lalejand> jamesh : how can I see if the replication of deleted contacts is working properly ?
[02:54] <lalejand> jamesh : ah it looks like it's working, the number of contacts on U1 web interface is lower
[02:54] <lalejand> joejc18 : I mean the | wc -l part
[02:54] <jamesh> joejc18: could you please report your problem at https://one.ubuntu.com/support/contact/?  That way it won't be missed.
[02:55] <jamesh> lalejand: yeah.  The web UI uses the cloud replica of your contacts, so it is a good indication of whether the change is replicating.
[03:02] <lalejand> jamesh : hmmm I still have contacts, the local U1 database webpages shows : 223 files for contacts, and the U1 web interface shows 1089 contacts
[03:03] <lalejand> jamesh : yeah !!! At least I don't have anymore the e-adressbook-factory bug !!! :)))
[03:04] <jamesh> lalejand: well, you could either try running the script again, or delete contacts you don't want from within evolution.
[03:04] <jamesh> lalejand: Has the number of contacts on the server side stabilised, or is it still dropping?
[03:04] <jamesh> I ask because the replication might still be in progress
[03:05] <lalejand> jamesh : decreasing. I though it wasn't but it was maybe a cache problem
[03:07] <lalejand> jamesh : I deleted the contacts in evo, but they didn't disapeared. Evo is waiting for the replication to finish before hiding them ?
[03:07] <jamesh> lalejand: I'm not sure.
[03:09] <lalejand> jamesh : I don't understand, the U1 control panel says "file sync in progress" but if I do u1sdtool --current-transfer or u1sdtool --waiting-content it retourns nothing or 0 downloads, 0 uploads
[03:12] <jamesh> lalejand: does "u1sdtool --status" say it is idle?
[03:12] <lalejand> jamesh : description: processing the commands pool
[03:12] <lalejand> jamesh : queues: WORKING
[03:13] <jamesh> If it was idle, it should say "queues: IDLE".
[03:16] <lalejand> jamesh : ok now, 0 contacts on U1 web interface, 0 contacts in evo
[03:16] <lalejand> jamesh : I'll see the other problem another day
[03:16] <lalejand> jamesh : one more thing : no problem if there are mailinglists in the couchDB adressbook ?
[03:17] <jdobrien> lalejand, how would we know?
[03:18] <lalejand> jdobrien : I don't know, you are the developper :)
[03:18] <jdobrien> lalejand, exactly...not policemen :)
[03:19] <jamesh> lalejand: do you mean storing a mailing list address in the address book, or is this something for managing a list of addresses in evo?
[03:20] <jamesh> lalejand: If it is the first, then it shouldn't matter.  If it is the second, you could give it a go and see what happens
[03:20] <lalejand> jdobrien : haha, I know, I meant, "no technical problem"
[03:20] <jdobrien> lalejand, i think couchdb will take whatever you throw at it :)
[03:21] <lalejand> jamesh : jamesh : I didn't understand the second statement
[03:22] <jamesh> lalejand: I don't use Evo personally, but way back in a previous job I remembered Outlook letting you create local aliases that would expand to multiple recipients
[03:22] <jamesh> I was wondering if that was the sort of thing you were talking about
[03:23] <jamesh> or whether you just meant entering the address of a mailman list in your contacts
[03:23] <lalejand> jdobrien jamesh : I drag&dropped a contact from my personal to the couchDb adressbook, it appears in the local database U1 webpage, but not in evo
[03:23] <jdobrien> lalejand, one sec
[03:24] <lalejand> jamesh : ah ok, yes I already have mailinglists in my personal adressbook, I was wondering if U1 would handle those if I put then in the couchDB adressbook
[03:24] <jdobrien> lalejand, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials/Contacts
[03:24] <jdobrien> lalejand, make sure it's setup
[03:27] <lalejand> jdobrien : ok
[03:32] <lalejand> jdobrien jamesh : in the local u1database webpage, I see the contact I added to the couchDB, but I don't see it in evo
[03:32] <jdobrien> lalejand, in evo are you looking at the couchdb contacts?
[03:33] <jamesh> lalejand: perhaps the evo backend is confused.
[03:33] <lalejand> jdobrien : yes
[03:33] <lalejand> jdobrien : oh I'm sorry
[03:34] <lalejand> jdobrien : I had something in the search filter
[03:34] <lalejand> jdobrien : I see the contact
[03:34] <jdobrien> and there was much rejoicing
[03:36] <lalejand> jdobrien : in the local U1 database webpage i see 5 strange contacts : http://pastebin.com/pjduWfs6 and I see them in evo as empty contacts, can I delete them ?
[03:36] <jdobrien> those look like special records of some kind
[03:37] <jdobrien> im surprised they were synced
[03:37]  * jdobrien checks for bug reports
[03:37] <beuno> jdobrien, evo doesn't seem to filter out based on record type
[03:37] <beuno> so it sees design documents and such
[03:37] <beuno> which is a bug
[03:38] <lalejand> maybe it has something to do with jamesh's script he gave to me to delete my contacts in my database
[03:39] <jdobrien> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution-couchdb/+bug/666303
[03:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 666303 in evolution-couchdb "Two empty contacts are displayed in Evolution and there is no way to delete them (affects: 8) (heat: 38)" [Undecided,In progress]
[03:39] <jamesh> lalejand: my script wouldn't have created those records: they look like they're either ones created by desktopcouch, or book keeping views created on our servers.
[03:40] <jdobrien> lalejand, i would not delete them.
[03:40] <lalejand> jdobrien : ok, I just wait for the bug to be resolved then ?
[03:41] <jdobrien> beuno, rodrigo is assigned to that...I'm betting he's not
[03:41] <beuno> jdobrien, I think he gets nagged every now and then
[03:42] <jdobrien> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution-couchdb/+bug/666303/comments/6
[03:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 666303 in evolution-couchdb "Two empty contacts are displayed in Evolution and there is no way to delete them (affects: 8) (heat: 38)" [Undecided,In progress]
[03:42] <jdobrien> beuno, 17 hours ago he marked it "In progress" <---- nag limit reached
[03:43] <beuno> heh
[03:43] <beuno> WIN
[03:44] <lalejand> jdobrien : I can't modify a contact in the couchDB adressbook, it says "other error"
[03:44] <joejc18> is it possible to use U1 mobile on a pc?
[03:45] <jdobrien> joejc18, U1 mobile uses the subsonic API
[03:45] <jdobrien> joejc18, there is an adobe Air client, but I do not think it works
[03:45] <jdobrien> beuno, ^^
[03:46] <beuno> yeah, I think it couldn't do https
[03:46] <jdobrien> joejc18, as crazy as it sounds, I used an android emulator though  :)
[03:46] <joejc18> so no?
[03:46] <beuno> joejc18, no, but something is sure to pop up in the next few months
[03:46] <joejc18> i like the emulator idea
[03:47] <jdobrien> I wish I wasn't so dependent on iPhone right now
[03:47] <jdobrien> I would switch so fast
[03:47] <beuno> there's a small proof-fo-concept app also
[03:47] <beuno> if you're up to branch a bzr branch
[03:47] <lalejand> jdobrien : and I have that : http://pastebin.com/Z7qUT6Vv while at the same time the U1 control panel says "file sync in progress" :/
[03:48] <jdobrien> lalejand, what version are you running?
[03:48] <beuno> joejc18, https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntuone-music/trunk
[03:48] <jdobrien> lalejand, does u1sdtool -s say 'IDLE'
[03:49] <lalejand> jdobrien : nightly (how can I see the version ?)
[03:49] <jdobrien> apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client
[03:49] <lalejand> jdobrien : no, it says queues: WORKING
[03:50] <jdobrien> lalejand, you could tail the ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log to see what's going on
[03:51] <lalejand> jdobrien : version is http://pastebin.com/aVsihrJb
[03:52] <jdobrien> oh a new one came out :)
[03:52] <lalejand> jdobrien : !!! I don't have persmission to do ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log !?
[03:52] <jdobrien> lalejand, tail -f ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[03:53] <lalejand> jdobrien : ups sorry, i'm idiot
[03:54] <lalejand> jdobrien : the tail gives : lalejand@lalejand-laptop:~$ tail -f ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[03:54] <lalejand> argh, no
[03:54] <lalejand> jdobrien : http://pastebin.com/3mZU7J39
[03:55] <jdobrien> lalejand, u1sdtool --waiting-metadata
[03:56] <lalejand> jdobrien : u1sdtool --waiting-metadata --> a lot of things
[03:56] <jdobrien> yeah
[03:56] <jdobrien> it's synchronizing file information with the server
[03:56] <jdobrien> lalejand, most likely you'll see uploads or downloads soon
[03:57] <lalejand> jdobrien : ah ok thx
[03:57] <jdobrien> lalejand, the client (or server) thinks there is something new about those files
[03:58] <lalejand> jdobrien : ok
[03:58] <lalejand> jdobrien : btw, now I can modify contacts in the couchDb adressbook. everything alright for the moment. thx a lot for the help
[04:00] <jdobrien> glad it's working for you
[04:35] <lalejand> jdobrien : I found another bug
[04:36] <lalejand> jdobrien : I have the green envolope in the corner of my screen indicating "new cloud folder(s) available", when I click on it, U1 crashes
[04:37] <jdobrien> lalejand, oh nice
[04:37] <jdobrien> a new bug alright
[04:37] <jdobrien> lalejand, can you file a bug
[04:38] <lalejand> jdobrien : done --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/724726
[04:38] <ubot4> lalejand: Error: Bug #724726 is private.
[04:38] <jdobrien> lalejand, are there any (non-empty) syncdaemon-exception.* files in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/logs
[04:40] <lalejand> jdobrien : nothing in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[04:41] <lalejand> jdobrien : the file is empty
[04:41] <jdobrien> lalejand, there may be several of those files
[04:41] <jdobrien> lalejand, but ubot4 is right, a bug has been files
[04:41] <jdobrien> filed
[04:41] <lalejand> jdobrien : it's strange because I get an apport crash report, but U1 seems still syncing (at least the U1 control panel says that)
[04:42] <jdobrien> lalejand, it's a separate process
[04:42] <lalejand> jdobrien : several files but none with the hour of now (I just made it crash again)
[04:43] <jdobrien> hehe
[04:43] <jdobrien> lalejand, the bug report has everything in it we need thanks
[04:44]  * jdobrien pats ubot4 on the head
[04:44] <lalejand> jdobrien : ok
[07:31] <lalejand> Hi, I'm syncing my contacts on my ipod. For one person, I have two entries (exactly the same) on the ipod, and only one on U1 server :/
[08:53] <lalejand> U1 client seems to be stuck. --current-transfer = 0, --waiting-content = nothing, --waiting-metada gives the same list since a long time now
[09:05] <JamesTait> Happy Friday, everyone!
[09:07] <lalejand> Hi, U1 client seems to be stuck. --current-transfer = 0, --waiting-content = nothing, --waiting-metada gives the same list since a long time now :/
[09:21] <mandel> lalejand: h, I think rye is the best one to help you trouble shoot that...
[09:22] <mandel> lalejand: he should be here soon
[09:22] <lalejand> mandel : ok thx
[09:22] <mandel> lalejand: If I see him before you do I'll let him now
[09:23] <lalejand> mandel : ok
[09:25] <evilduanedesign> hello all
[09:26] <mandel> evilduanedesign: running windows ;)
[09:26] <evilduanedesign> ;)
[09:28] <evilduanedesign> you been doing well mandel? Staying busy I am sure
[09:28] <mandel> evilduanedesign: yes, lots of work on ubuntuone client with one arm :P
[09:28] <evilduanedesign> oh no, one arm :\
[09:29] <mandel> evilduanedesign: well, we are ubuntu one, rigth, I get all the way with that
[09:30] <evilduanedesign> :D
[09:30] <evilduanedesign> you are committed!
[09:30] <mandel> all the way
[09:31] <evilduanedesign> lalejand: hello. Can you try the command:  touch ~/Ubuntu\ One/test.txt
[09:32] <lalejand> evilduanedesign : it says "1 file is uploaded to your cloud" in the notification area
[09:33] <evilduanedesign> lalejand: ok
[09:35] <duanedesign> lalejand: so you are on Natty?
[09:38] <lalejand> duanedesign : no maverick
[09:44] <duanedesign> lalejand:  what do you get with the command:  u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l
[09:46] <lalejand> duanedesign : 65
[09:48] <lalejand> duanedesign : something I can do ?
[09:50] <duanedesign> can you try: ps aux | grep beam
[09:51] <lalejand> duanedesign : http://pastebin.com/3Fn9Gsia
[09:52] <duanedesign> lalejand: is  u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l  still at 65?
[09:52] <lalejand> duanedesign : yes
[09:53] <lalejand> every X minutes it tells me in the notification area that 169 files are uploaded to my cloud : 73%
[09:54] <duanedesign> lalejand: but the --waiting-content is 0 ?
[09:55] <lalejand> duanedesign : yes, it returns nothing
[09:57] <duanedesign> lalejand: can you pastebin what it is stuck on. What you get from u1sdtool --waiting metadata
[09:59] <lalejand> duanedesign : http://pastebin.com/WrZtU8tU
[10:00] <duanedesign> lalejand: what do you get from :  u1sdtool -s
[10:02] <lalejand> duanedesign : http://pastebin.com/uedJwcjX
[10:04] <duanedesign> bug 724818
[10:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 724818 in ubuntuone-client "U1 client is stuck (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724818
[10:04] <duanedesign> :)
[10:04] <lalejand> duanedesign : yes I filled a bug
[10:05] <karni> good morning! happy Friday to you JamesTait as well! James, do you remember on what action did U1F not respond? (so called "FC")
[10:06] <JamesTait> karni: Good morning! I think it was when I selected Sync from the menu.
[10:07] <duanedesign> lalejand: ok one more pastebin
[10:07] <JamesTait> karni: It doesn't do it every time, just that once.
[10:07] <karni> JamesTait: oh good :D because that still need a little work (like I mentioned) haha
[10:07] <duanedesign> lalejand: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[10:07] <karni> JamesTait: thanks for your report. I'll get back to you with an apk!
[10:08] <JamesTait> karni: Excellent. :)
[10:08] <karni> JamesTait: I had one day unintended break, so that's why I didn't send it yesterday :(
[10:08] <JamesTait> karni: Don't worry about it. :)
[10:08] <karni> ok then, happy coding everyone!
[10:11] <lalejand> duanedesign : can't send it
[10:12] <lalejand> you want the whole file ?
[10:12] <lalejand> duanedesign : here it is --> http://ubuntuone.com/p/etU/
[10:14] <lalejand> duanedesign : I have to disconnect
[10:14] <karni> JamesTait: by the way. I'm interested how users percieve that menu Sync option. when did you try to use it (or: when did you think you _need_ to use it)? you're aware that 1) it syncs periodically 2) it syncs if it's online and you make some changes on the PC
[10:14] <duanedesign> lalejand: i have your bug report so I will point rye at that when he gets in
[10:15] <lalejand> duanedesign : ok thx
[10:15] <karni> JamesTait: basically it'll be available there when Sync policy is set to 'Manual (off)', I'm not sure if we'll leave it there when 'auto-sync' is on.
[10:17] <JamesTait> karni: I noticed that one of my UDFs was missing, and I didn't see any indicator suggesting that it was still syncing, so I thought I'd request it manually.
[10:18] <karni> JamesTait: I see. That's perfectly natural, yes. I've improved the sync-in-progress indication, so that shouldn't confuse you any more. Thanks!
[10:19] <JamesTait> karni: Happy to provide feedback. :)
[10:19] <karni> great! :)
[10:28] <duanedesign> morning karni
[10:28] <karni> hello duanedesign, how are you doing.. ?
[10:28] <duanedesign> im good, thanks
[10:29] <karni> uhm
[10:29] <karni> duanedesign: I see you're getting back on track with U1, huh :)?
[10:30] <duanedesign> karni: yes I am sure trying. Alot of changges I need to get used to.
[10:30] <aquarius> clarita, aha, good morning :)
[10:30] <duanedesign> karni: a couple of things in the logs I am not quite used to seeing :)
[10:30] <clarita> aquarius: good morning!
[10:31] <karni> duanedesign: sure :) you'll get there in no time!
[10:31] <karni> aquarius: good morning :)
[10:31] <duanedesign> karni: thank you sir, you are too kind.
[10:32] <aquarius> heya karni
[10:32] <karni> I still need to work on shortening my bzr commit messages.
[10:32] <duanedesign> haha
[10:33] <karni> aquarius: any ANR's recently? I do know 'Sync' from options menu is possibly making some trouble. but I've improved the sync indication already (apart from other things) http://ubuntuone.com/p/erM/
[10:33] <duanedesign> i need to settle on a format for myprojects. Was looking at the revision history yesterday :P
[10:33] <karni> aquarius: that's a link ot a screenshot
[10:33] <aquarius> karni, none, actually :)
[10:34] <karni> aquarius: perfect
[11:04] <rye> duanedesign, bug #724818, welcome to the club
[11:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 724818 in ubuntuone-client "U1 client is stuck (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724818
[11:19] <rye> yay facundobatista's branch works and my SD is back to IDLE, now i can hack on indicator!
[11:29] <duanedesign>  hello rye
[11:29] <rye> duanedesign, i marked the bug as a duplicate and testing the branch that fixes that Move() stuck
[11:30] <duanedesign> rye: that was from a user that was in here this morning. I just added the info I gathered form him
[11:30] <duanedesign> rye: ok, thank you
[11:30] <duanedesign> s/form/from
[11:30] <rye> duanedesign, uh-huh, it took quite a while to find the bug report which was describing the actual error, since it was using completely different wording
[11:31] <rye> duanedesign, however it turned out I have already subscribed to that thing
[11:31] <rye> hm, looks like appindicators broke in natty
[11:31] <rye> undefined symbols...
[11:33] <duanedesign> yeah I did not immediately find any bug report that looked related
[11:33] <duanedesign> i was anxious to figure it out though. bugs me when i can not figure out ann issue.
[11:34] <duanedesign> get it....bugs me....:D
[11:34] <duanedesign> </bad joke>
[11:36] <rye> duanedesign, me too, but, since I was a victim of this bug too for past 3 weeks I knew the bug report for that existed, but I also remember that I completely forgot the bug title immediately after I have seen the report :)
[11:37] <rye> i am so good with english tenses, however i am using them w/o a proper license
[11:37] <duanedesign> rye: i have been looking for a job the last 2 or 3 months so I have not had as much time as usual for Ubuntu so I am a bit rusty on bug reports and some of the new changes in U1
[11:41] <facundobatista> rye, which branch?
[11:41] <rye> facundobatista, that fixes the moves stuck in limbo
[11:41] <rye> facundobatista, lp:~facundo/ubuntuone-client/fix-limbo-paths
[11:41] <facundobatista> rye, :)
[11:42] <facundobatista> rye, isn't it in trunk already?
[11:43] <rye> facundobatista, not yet, still being in Ready for Review.
[11:43] <facundobatista> oh
[11:46] <rye> earlier ubuntuone-indicator did not work properly because the code was not ready for unleashed queues. Now it won't start at all because python appindicator is broken
[12:05] <duanedesign> rye: looks like their is an issue with Futon working with JQuery1.5 ?
[12:06] <rye> duanedesign, well, official answer is that we are not that ok with futon on desktopcouch
[12:07] <rye> duanedesign, but i guess we may poke aquarius about this
[12:09] <aquarius> rye, poke me about what?
[12:09] <duanedesign> aha, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-1067
[12:09] <duanedesign> aq^
[12:09] <czajkowski> mandel: aloha
[12:10] <aquarius> duanedesign, that's the jquery 1.5 thing for futon? There's a launchpad bug, and CardinalFang has applied the patch, but I don't know if that's made it into a released package yet
[12:10] <duanedesign> ok, so there is a LP bug. thank you i will look it up
[12:11] <duanedesign> thought i would work on one of my forgotten projects today. A Couch IRC logger
[12:12] <aquarius> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/couchdb/+bug/716237
[12:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 716237 in jquery (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "libjs-jquery 1.4.2 => 1.5 breaks Couchdb-Futon (TypeError, no method httpData) (affects: 2) (heat: 280)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[12:13] <duanedesign> thank yo sir
[12:13] <duanedesign> you*
[12:45] <ralsina> good morning everyone
[13:09] <rodrigo_> dobey, ping
[13:09] <rodrigo_> hola ralsina
[13:09] <ralsina> hola rodrigo_!
[13:13] <mandel> czajkowski: hello :)
[13:13] <mandel> czajkowski: you got me walking the dog :P
[13:17] <ralsina> hola mandel! gimme reviews!
[13:17] <mandel> ralsina: cool, let me get them, one sec
[13:18] <mandel> ralsina: there you go: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/implement_basic_remote_objects/+merge/50885
[13:18] <mandel> in the proposal you can see whihc tests to run on windows
[13:19] <ralsina> ok
[13:19] <ralsina> I'll test that, since facundo tested on Linux
[13:30] <mandel> ralsina: ca you take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572177/
[13:30] <mandel> ralsina: let me know which way is nicer in your opinion
[13:30]  * ralsina looks
[13:31] <ralsina> mandel: compared to what?
[13:31] <ralsina> Oh, got it
[13:31] <mandel> ralsina: hahaha
[13:32] <mandel> ralsina:  was not going to write  separate ones
[13:32] <ralsina> Wold we ever want to create a UbuntuOneSyncDaemon() and not connect it immediately?
[13:34] <mandel> ralsina: I dont think so...
[13:34] <ralsina> If the answer is yes, then 2, if the answer is no, then 3
[13:34] <ralsina> 1 is too clever
[13:34] <ralsina> clever is bad
[13:35] <mandel> ralsina: then 3, since is something that should be done as soon as you started the sd process
[13:35] <ralsina> And the code ends looking exactly like 3
[13:35] <ralsina> yeeah, the more Isee it the more I hate 1. We would have to protect each call with try
[13:35] <ralsina> So 3
[13:35] <mandel> ralsina: ok then :)
[13:45] <ralsina> mandel: trouble, http://canonica.pastebin.com/3a0QGdEg
[13:46] <mandel> ralsina: looking..
[13:51] <mandel> ralsina: wht version of u1trial are you running>
[13:51] <mandel> ??
[13:51] <ralsina> one from a few days ago
[13:51] <ralsina> a week maybe.
[13:51] <ralsina> no apt-get on windows, you know :-)
[13:52] <mandel> ralsina: hmm I have a very very old one and dont get that, let me update it
[13:53] <ralsina> alecu mandel nessita thisfred standup in 8 minutes
[13:53] <thisfred> yipyip
[13:53] <nessita> hola a todos
[13:54] <mandel> ralsina: can you grab ubuntuone-dev-tools frm trunk and install it in wour windows machine?
[13:55] <ralsina> sure
[13:55] <ralsina> what's the bazaar branch?
[13:55] <ralsina> if you have it handy
[13:55] <ralsina> lp:ubuntuone-dev-tools right? :-)
[13:56] <ralsina> it's nice when one starts guessing right.
[13:57] <ralsina> mandel: with latest trunk it fails like I showed you before
[14:00] <thisfred> me
[14:00] <nessita> me
[14:00] <mandel> ralsina: what exact version of python are you running??
[14:00] <mandel> me
[14:00] <ralsina> me
[14:00] <nessita> thisfred: you go first?
[14:00] <thisfred> DONE: work on bug #724475 (with invaluable help from nessita)
[14:00] <thisfred> TODO: wrap up bug #724475
[14:00] <thisfred> BLOCKED: nee
[14:00] <thisfred> NEXT:nessita
[14:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 724475 in ubuntuone-couch "make into a proper python package (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724475
[14:00] <nessita> thisfred: I was just aking :-D
[14:00] <nessita> asking*
[14:01] <ralsina> mandel: Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Nov 27 2010, 18:30:46) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on
[14:01] <ralsina> win32
[14:01] <thisfred> eh, I don't understand the question?
[14:01] <nessita> alecu, dobey?
[14:01] <alecu> me
[14:01] <nessita> thisfred: since we both said 'me' at the exact same time, I was asking if you do first
[14:01] <thisfred> well, mine got there first
[14:01] <thisfred> looks to me
[14:01] <ralsina> I have thisfred one second earlier
[14:01] <nessita> ah :-)
[14:02] <nessita> ok, let's continue!
[14:02] <nessita> DONE: a few code reviews. Talked with thisfred about iXYn translation issues. Weekly call. Shared a packaging session with thisfred. Found a very weird issue with file storage API for UDF creation, vds fixed it.
[14:02] <nessita> TODO: wrap up file storage work, prepare for an intense next week to do all the control UI tweaking needed so we can reach UI freeze.
[14:02] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[14:02] <nessita> NEXT: mandel
[14:02] <mandel> DONE: DOctors appointment. More IPC and client side code for windows.
[14:02] <mandel> TODO: FInish IPC client code, propose merges, add point2point tests for ipc and see what brakes
[14:02] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[14:02] <mandel> NEXT: ralsina
[14:02] <ralsina> DONE: not much, some reviews, calls
[14:03] <ralsina> TODO: more calls, more reviews, finish the sprint stuff (I am bugging marianna but getting no answer)
[14:03] <ralsina> BLOCKED: on the sprint, yes.
[14:03] <ralsina> dobey is not here yet, so. Comments?
[14:03] <alecu> I said "me"
[14:03] <ralsina> oops, missed you, sorry!
[14:03] <alecu> DONE: my phone is using OAuth to get the account_info["couch_root"]  from the u1 servers. Yipee!
[14:03] <alecu> TODO: need to work on escaping %2F's and building the real couch url
[14:03] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[14:03] <alecu> HATE: orzuelo (Stye) in the left eye annoys and hurts a bit
[14:03] <alecu> LOVE: unity-gir released, so every unity user will enjoy progressbar bliss
[14:03] <alecu> NEXT: dobey
[14:03] <nessita> alecu: go!
[14:03] <ralsina> alecu!
[14:04] <ralsina> crickets.... crickets
[14:04] <ralsina> I have no idea how to say the sound of a cricket in english ;-)
[14:04] <alecu> chirp?
[14:04] <mandel> ralsina: ok, this is great I have the exact same version that you do...
[14:04] <ralsina> alecu: isn't that birds?
[14:05] <alecu> crick?
[14:05] <ralsina> mandel: you mean, this sucks?
[14:05] <mandel> ralsina, alecu: it is "grillo, grillo grillo"
[14:05] <mandel> :P
[14:05] <ralsina> hahahaha
[14:05] <alecu> ralsina, by "crickets" you mean my standup didn't show up? I just pasted it above!
[14:05] <ralsina> grill grill grill
[14:05] <mandel> ralsina: well, I know how to fix this, let me bran ubuntuone-dev
[14:05] <ralsina> alecu:  I mean dobey's
[14:05] <mandel> ralsina: I need 5 min
[14:05] <ralsina> mandel: sure
[14:05] <alecu> oh, ok.
[14:05] <alecu> "chirp"
[14:06] <alecu> http://insects.about.com/od/grasshoppersandcrickets/f/howcricketssing.htm
[14:06] <ralsina> anyway, comments? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
[14:06] <ralsina> alecu: oh, living in the future sure is useful :-)
[14:06] <dobey> λ DONE: bug #724101, banshee
[14:06] <dobey> λ TODO: more music store fixes
[14:06] <dobey> λ BLCK: on-call for jury duty
[14:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 724101 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "ubuntuone-syncdaemon crashed with TypeError in __init__(): must be an interface (affects: 53) (dups: 23) (heat: 324)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724101
[14:07] <nessita> ralsina: I would like to comment about the UI freeze (joshua mentioned this yesterday on the weekly call)
[14:07] <alecu> also wikipedia: "Since the days of radio entertainment, the sound of crickets chirping has been consistently used as an indication that a scene is taking place late at night" and of members of one's team being abducted by aliens too.
[14:07] <ralsina> nessita: sure, go ahead
[14:07] <nessita> ralsina: UI freeze is March, 24th. I'll be out in holiday from March, 7 to March, 18. Which leads a week for me to work on the control panel UI (next week)
[14:08] <nessita> ralsina: so I would need a meeting with you and cparrino to review all the strings and UI stuff to see what we want to change and prioritize that
[14:08] <thisfred> also: http://tinysong.com/jkpk
[14:08] <nessita> ralsina: mostly an FYI, I will setup a call for Tuesday propably
[14:09] <ralsina> nessita: cool
[14:09] <ralsina> In any case, the UI is not going to change much anymore
[14:09] <ralsina> right?
[14:09] <nessita> ralsina: don't be so sure, Daniel is sending new screenshots
[14:09] <nessita> ralsina: and we still need to define some icons and strings
[14:09] <nessita> not to mention we have no banner at all, yet :-)
[14:11] <nessita> that would be all from me
[14:12] <ralsina> I saw the screenshot
[14:12] <ralsina> it'spretty nice, if space wasting :-)
[14:12] <ralsina> ok, let's try to get all those by wednesday at the latest
[14:13] <ralsina> eom?
[14:14] <ralsina> eom cancelled!
[14:14] <ralsina> Just got the ok about the flight booking
[14:16] <dobey> oi
[14:17] <ralsina> So, sprint in BA april 4th, for alecu nessita, dobey, CardinalFang, thisfred
[14:17] <ralsina> and me
[14:17] <thisfred> ralsina: as in book tickets now? :)
[14:17] <ralsina> as in now, yes
[14:17] <thisfred> on it!
[14:18] <ralsina> mandel: you are not coming because I don'twant to make you travel twice, and you will be working on the windows side of things anyway
[14:18] <ralsina> vds is not coming because he has not done any desktop work this cycle
[14:19] <ralsina> vds: and he's busy on mobile
[14:20] <ralsina> And mandel: mini sprint on London for you and me, April 11th
[14:20] <mandel> ralsina: ok, so i book flights  to london then
[14:20] <ralsina> mandel: yes
[14:20] <ralsina> mandel: or a nice train
[14:21]  * ralsina would love to have a train to england (if it wouldn't mean a week under the sea, of course)
[14:21]  * ralsina loves trains in general
[14:21] <ralsina> anyway eom now?
[14:21] <alecu> ralsina, there's a company that submarines you there.
[14:22] <ralsina> alecu: you're joking???
[14:22] <alecu> ralsina, but they have very bad reviews because of the krakens.
[14:22] <ralsina> alecu: yeah,, krakens suck :-)
[14:22] <alecu> jajajajaajajajaaja
[14:22] <alecu> they surely suck, like, a lot!
[14:22] <nessita> ralsina: eom!
[14:22] <ralsina> well, they are covered in suckers
[14:23] <nessita> dobey: ping
[14:24] <nessita> dobey: I know leonard spoke with you about launchpadlib. He mentioned I should talk with you to catch up with that
[14:24] <dobey> ok
[14:24] <alecu> ralsina, btw: I've been talking with aquarius on where to put the changes I'm making to DroidCouch.
[14:24] <dobey> nessita: are you using it somewhere?
[14:24] <alecu> ralsina, There are a few different branches on github, but there seems to be no maintainer. I was thinking of making yet another branch there, or would making a launchpad project make more sense?
[14:24] <ralsina> I think a launchpad project is easier for us
[14:24] <nessita> dobey: not right now, but I should in the control panel
[14:24] <ralsina> Can bzr branch git?
[14:25] <dobey> nessita: what for?
[14:25] <alecu> ralsina, no idea on branching git, no.
[14:25] <ralsina> it would be a stright fork then
[14:25] <nessita> dobey: hum... is that used to report bugs and attach stuff to them?
[14:25] <ralsina> Well, launchpad is better because of bug reporting and all the rest
[14:25] <ralsina> So my vote is for launchpad but I don't really care ;-)
[14:26] <dobey> nessita: to report bugs you should just use apport
[14:26] <ralsina> on github you would have a better chance of re-merging from other forks, though
[14:26] <alecu> ralsina, right, it's easier on the bug reports for us, but we will be missing any fixes done upstream.
[14:26] <alecu> exactly.
[14:26] <nessita> dobey: what are you using launchpadlib for, then?
[14:27] <ralsina> alecu: well, you can subscribe to the upstream and manually merge patches
[14:27] <ralsina> alecu: or use launchpad and periodically dump on  github fork
[14:27] <dobey> nessita: well, lptools uses it of course; to find merge proposals and such
[14:28] <ralsina> alecu: let me do a bit of research. Maybe technology will make it easier ;-)
[14:28]  * alecu is loving the crickets sound that thisfred posted.
[14:28] <nessita> dobey: lp-project-upload uses launchpadling and is not working for me. Can you please share what is need to change/update so I can see if that's the issue?
[14:28] <dobey> is that in lptools?
[14:28] <ralsina> alecu: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/migration/en/foreign/bzr-on-git-projects.html
[14:28] <dobey> and yeah, lptools is probably currently broken on trunk because edge went away
[14:28] <thisfred> alecu: it's from a great album too, but people were a little pissed when it contained a track with 30 mins of crickets. I loved it
[14:28] <nessita> dobey: nopes, ubuntu-dev-tools
[14:29] <thisfred> every album should have that
[14:29] <dobey> well what's not working exactly?
[14:29] <alecu> hahaha
[14:29] <alecu> ralsina, that sounds interesting, but it's bzr only, not launchpad.
[14:29] <nessita> dobey: can you please share with me what leonard pointed out that we should be fixing?
[14:30] <alecu> ralsina, also "Limited push support" :-(
[14:30] <ralsina> alecu: grmbl
[14:30] <dobey> nessita: mainly that EDGE_SERVICE_ROOT shouldn't be used
[14:31] <nessita> dobey: ah. Well, lp-project-upload runs without any error but the released are not appearing in LP
[14:31] <ralsina> alecu: http://blog.launchpad.net/code/git-branch-imports-now-in-public-beta
[14:31] <dobey> nessita: ok. i can't tell you why. i've never actually used it
[14:32] <ralsina> "You get the Git branch’s version history and it works just like any other Bazaar branch. Launchpad then regularly pulls the latest version of the Git branch into the Bazaar branch."
[14:32] <nessita> dobey: ok, thanks
[14:33] <ralsina> alecu: with that, you do a github fork, but it will be visible on launchpad too.
[14:33] <nessita> dobey: how do you make a tarball release? I'm needing to do one and since lp-project-upload is not working, I would need an alternative
[14:33] <ralsina> You will have to work on git, though, but you at least get the code into launchpad, and can use the rest of the services.
[14:33] <alecu> ralsina, that sounds great.
[14:35] <dobey> nessita: i upload the tarball by hand through the web ui
[14:37] <alecu> ralsina, so, it comes down to this: https://code.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new
[14:37] <mandel> ralsina: can you tell me what lp:~mandel/+junk/fix_load_from_file does in your system
[14:37] <ralsina> alecu: first you should do a github fork, I think, but yes
[14:37] <ralsina> mandel: sure
[14:39] <alecu> ralsina, you are a git guru, right? I'll probably bother you with questions about that :-)
[14:39] <ralsina> alecu: I am the exact opposite of a git guru :-)
[14:39] <alecu> a urug tig?
[14:40] <nessita> dobey: from which page?
[14:41] <dobey> nessita: https://launchpad.net/$project/$series
[14:41] <dobey> so /libubuntuone/trunk for example
[14:41] <dobey> there is an "Add release" link under the list of milestones/releases
[14:42] <nessita> dobey: nice... well, for the future, you may wanna try lp-porject-upload, it automates all the tarball releasing task
[14:46] <mandel> ralsina: what is the stdout whenyou use the u1trial from my branch?
[14:46] <ralsina> mandel: in a minute!
[14:46] <mandel> sure
[14:47] <ralsina> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mandel/%2Bjunk/fix_lo
[14:47] <ralsina> ad_from_file/".
[14:47] <ralsina> mandel: ^^
[14:47] <mandel> ralsina: ups, let me check
[14:47] <ralsina> mandel: maybe the "+" in the URL messes it up?
[14:48] <mandel> ralsina: shoud not, this is it https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/+junk/fix_load_from_files
[14:49] <mandel> ralsina: this is the url https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/+junk/fix_load_from_files
[14:49] <ralsina> mandel: that worked
[14:49] <mandel> ralsina: funny, cause i the same one, ritgh?
[14:49] <mandel> well, how cares… it worked
[14:49] <ralsina> No, I got a bzr+ssh
[14:50] <ralsina> but it fails in the same way
[14:50] <ralsina> mandel: https://pastebin.canonical.com/43966/
[14:51] <joshuahoover> dobey: do we need an exception for changing the affiliate code in the banshee amazon music store?
[14:53] <dobey> joshuahoover: i doubt it. is not adding a new feature, just changing stuff behind the scenes on the one already in
[14:53] <mandel> ralsina: how many points do you get for swearing at you manager???
[14:53] <joshuahoover> dobey: k, that's kind of what i was thinking but wanted to double check with you...thanks!
[14:53] <mandel> ralsina: the sep on windows is not / you copy pasted it and does funny things ;)
[14:53] <ralsina> mandel: I don't mind. What did I break?
[14:53] <ralsina> Ha!
[14:53] <mandel> hehehe
[14:53] <joshuahoover> mandel: good points or bad points?
[14:54] <mandel> ralsina: try using trunk but with the right separator
[14:54] <ralsina> I literally followed your instructions. Doc ERROR!
[14:54] <mandel> joshuahoover: all points are good
[14:54] <ralsina> mandel: running that now :-)
[14:54] <ralsina> mandel: PASSED the first one
[14:54] <mandel> joshuahoover: event amazon ones ;)
[14:54] <joshuahoover> heh
[14:55] <ralsina> mandel: +1
[14:55] <ralsina> mandel: but that should really give a better error
[14:55] <ralsina> like "file not found"? ;-)
[14:56] <mandel> ralsina: I guess… we can add a bug to u1-dev-tools
[14:56] <ralsina> nah
[14:57] <dobey> it has no bugs
[15:17]  * nessita is back
[15:25] <lalejand> duanedesign : I'm back, if you want to do some tests. Still the same problem : u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l returns 65
[15:28] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: do you know why bug #670054 didn't make it into desktopcouch for natty?
[15:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 670054 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "spawn microproxy to cover for crashy couchdb (affects: 1) (heat: 35)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/670054
[15:29] <duanedesign> lalejand: hello
[15:29] <CardinalFang> joshuahoover, It may be too big of a change.  I'm scared of it.
[15:29] <duanedesign> lalejand: i did find some stuff out for you
[15:29] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: ok...so needs more testing?
[15:30] <CardinalFang> joshuahoover, or more thinkimg.
[15:30] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: ah, k
[15:30] <joshuahoover> CardinalFang: i missed that one somehow when reviewing open bugs for natty, thus my (much too late) question
[15:31] <lalejand> duanedesign : great !
[15:31] <duanedesign> lalejand: the devs are currently testing the branch that fixes that Move() stuck. Your bug report should now be linked to the 'master' bug for that issue
[15:32] <lalejand> duanedesign : ok, so I just have to wait, I don't need to do some operation ?
[15:35] <duanedesign> lalejand: the fix should be ready soon. Are you using a PPA for Ubuntu One or are yo using the version that comes with 10.10
[15:35] <lalejand> duanedesign : PPA
[15:36] <duanedesign> lalejand: i thought so since you mentioned the indicators :)
[15:37] <lalejand> duanedesign : ok so i will update and see if my problem disapears
[15:38] <duanedesign> lalejand: yes looks like the branch has been approved and merged
[15:38] <duanedesign> lalejand: so it should be available very soon
[15:38] <lalejand> duanedesign : you think the fix will be in the next update ?
[15:40] <duanedesign> yes
[15:46] <duanedesign> lalejand: looks like a package was recently built. Might run updates and see if you get offered an upgrade
[15:47] <lalejand> duanedesign : ok thx
[15:50] <thisfred> alecu: ah, you're back, I sent you a mail: It turns out I've forgotten completely about the quota noticiations/messaging
[15:50] <thisfred> +fi
[15:50] <thisfred> -i
[15:51] <nessita> thisfred: oh no, really?
[15:51] <thisfred> yeah
[15:51] <thisfred> joshuahoover just alerted me to this fact
[15:52] <thisfred> I don't know how much work it is to add those events to the aggregator. Adding the messaging/noticiations in the front end shouldn't be that much work
[15:53] <thisfred> alecu:  or are the aggregated already?  I couldn't find them yet
[15:53] <nessita> thisfred: the event from syncdaemon is SYS_QUOTA_EXCEEDED
[15:54] <nessita> thisfred: you should add a new handler for it. Though you should carefully aggregate it, to avoid all th issues we've had with that
[15:54] <lalejand> duanedesign : I just updated, do I have to restart U1 client ?
[15:54] <thisfred> nessita: and for this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/702176
[15:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 702176 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to add an entry to the messaging menu when a folder shared to the user exceeds the owning user's quota (affects: 1) (heat: 76)" [Medium,Triaged]
[15:54] <lalejand> u1sdtool -q and u1sdtool -s ?
[15:54] <alecu> thisfred, hi: good point on quota, we didn't work on that at all.
[15:55] <thisfred> yeah, my bad completely
[15:55] <alecu> thisfred, well, we all forgot about that too.
[15:55] <joshuahoover> alecu, thisfred: if we don't have the backend done, then we're likely not going to get it in now...my fault for missing this completely
[15:56] <alecu> thisfred, so, as nessita says we need to listen for that signal in syncdaemon/status_listener.py
[15:57] <alecu> thisfred, and then bubble it up to the aggregator code
[15:57] <alecu> thisfred, and have some timer so it shows at most once per day or so.
[15:57] <alecu> (I think once per day is the timeout for the current notifications)
[15:58] <thisfred> alecu: right, so not entirely trivial
[15:58] <alecu> *notifications -> error dialog.
[15:58] <alecu> yes, it's not entirely trivial, but we should be able to have it running in a day or two.
[15:58] <thisfred> If I get the API work done today, I will start a branch on monday, and see if it's realistic
[15:59] <thisfred> joshuahoover: ^ that does not sound too hopeless
[15:59] <alecu> thisfred, the other thing is that we should only show the notification for out of space warnings from shares from other people *only*
[16:00] <nessita> alecu: what? isn't that backwards?
[16:00] <alecu> since for the current users' account it will already be shown with the current dialog.
[16:00] <nessita> alecu: remember what we talked about:
[16:00] <lalejand> duanedesign : restarted U1 client, looks like the "65" is decreasing to "62", "60", "59" now. So it should be ok
[16:00] <alecu> nessita, or are we replacing that dialog completely?
[16:01] <duanedesign> lalejand: that is great
[16:01] <nessita> alecu: we need to show notifications as bubbles in that case, since the control panel will not be necessarily open
[16:01] <thisfred> alecu:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/702183 should replace the dialog I guess
[16:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 702183 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to open the control panel in the background and change the launcher icon to urgent when the user exceeds their quota (affects: 1) (heat: 76)" [Medium,Triaged]
[16:01] <nessita> alecu: we're doing both: control panel and bubbles
[16:01] <joshuahoover> thisfred, alecu: k, i'm headed into the weekly release meeting so i'll let them know we may request a freeze exception if it isn't too much work
[16:01] <thisfred> thanks
[16:02] <alecu> oh, "change the launcher icon to urgent". I totally missed that.
[16:02] <alecu> nessita, then we need to remove the gsd-plugin out-of-space dialog as well.
[16:03] <nessita> alecu: yeah, I think we talked about that as well (but I'm not 100% sure)
[16:11] <lalejand> U1 client is iddle, everything has been synced. I open my couchDB adressBook, I try to delete a contact, I get a very explicit error "other error" :/
[16:26] <lalejand> Hi, does someone know what to write if I want to ignore svn folders from sync ? The solution proposed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/625194 doesn't work (maybe because the svn folders were already synced ?)
[16:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 625194 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Enhancement : graphical interface for ignore list (affects: 1) (heat: 23)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[16:32] <alecu> thisfred, ping
[16:32] <thisfred> alecu: pong
[16:33] <alecu> thisfred, I'm trying to understand this, from u1-couch:
[16:33] <alecu> path = "/" + urllib.quote(path[1:], safe="") # don't escape the first /
[16:33] <thisfred> ah right:
[16:33] <alecu> thisfred, it's for the droidcouch work I'm doing...
[16:33] <thisfred> so for couch urls
[16:33] <thisfred> all the /s have to be encoded to %2F
[16:33] <thisfred> yay
[16:34] <alecu> thisfred, cool. Do other chars need to be converted?
[16:34] <alecu> thisfred, the thing is that the java library I'm using is kinda screwed
[16:34] <thisfred> but not the first one of course that indicates the root
[16:34] <alecu> right
[16:34] <thisfred> alecu: well, just to make them url safe
[16:34] <thisfred> the thing is, / will get interpreted correctly (at least some of the time) but the oauth signature will no longer be valid
[16:35] <alecu> thisfred, the java url encode function is returning something like this: /u%252F3b7%252F12d%252F1122
[16:35] <alecu> but the python urlencode does it right, like this: /u%2F3b7%2F12d%2F1122%2F
[16:36] <thisfred> looks like it's double encoding maybe
[16:36] <alecu> thisfred, right
[16:36] <thisfred> %25 = %
[16:36] <thisfred> I think
[16:36] <alecu> thisfred, so, I'm guessing if I can get away with only replacing the / with %2F
[16:36] <alecu> thisfred, and not using that broken library.
[16:36] <thisfred> right
[16:36] <alecu> thisfred, (but not the first one, right)
[16:36] <thisfred> well, yeah, there should not be any other characters that need encoding in the path
[16:37] <alecu> thisfred, cool. that's what I wanted to know!!! :-)
[16:37] <thisfred> depending one what db names people use
[16:37] <thisfred> but I think couchdb disallows anything crazy
[16:42] <alecu> thisfred, anyway, I'm applying that to the couch root as returned by the account service
[16:42] <alecu> not to the db names
[16:47] <aquarius> alecu, yeah. Your couch root will be u/abc/def/9999, so your bookmarks database will be u/abc/def/9999/bookmarks, and all the *internal* slashes in that need escaping, so u%2Fabc%2Fdef%2F9999%2Fbookmarks. Also, note that it must be %2F, not %2f.
[16:47] <alecu> great
[16:50] <aquarius> lalejand, interesting question about ignoring svn folders. The person you want to talk to about that is rye
[16:51] <rye> lalejand, hi, you may want to add \.svn to the list of ignored files. For some reason it works with folders too now :-/
[16:52] <lalejand> rye : you say it should work ?
[16:53] <rye> lalejand, testing
[16:53] <lalejand> rye : I have that http://pastebin.com/mTW6bzHR in my ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf. Is that okay ?
[16:55] <rye> lalejand, looks like it ignores that folder properly, does it work for you?
[16:56] <lalejand> rye : nope, if I look in my files in the U1 web interface, I see .svn folders
[16:56] <rye> lalejand, were they uploaded prior to config changes?
[16:57] <lalejand> rye : possible, but for one of them I don't think so
[16:58] <lalejand> rye : I should unsync and sync again ?
[16:58] <rye> lalejand, could you please try creating .svn folder in ~/Ubuntu One folders ?
[16:58] <rye> lalejand, then put some file there and see whether it all appeared online
[16:58] <nessita> lunchtime!
[16:59] <lalejand> rye : ok I try
[17:00] <lalejand> rye : I see it in the web interface :/
[17:02] <lalejand> rye : and it's the one I just added since it's indicated "just now"
[17:03] <rye> lalejand, ok, have you restarted syncdaemon after config change?
[17:04] <lalejand> rye : I even restarted my computer several times
[17:04] <rye> lalejand, okay, then what's the syncdaemon version? apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client ?
[17:04] <lalejand> rye : I made the change in the conf file that is in my home. Last time I updated U1, it replaced the conf file in etc
[17:05] <rye> lalejand, yup, that's right, system-level configs are handled by package and overriden in local configs
[17:05] <lalejand> rye : 1.5.5+r897~maverick1
[17:05] <rye> hmmm
[17:05] <rye> lalejand, i am running pretty much the same but in natty
[17:06] <lalejand> rye : the one in etc overrides the one in my home ?
[17:09] <rye> lalejand, no, your ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf overrides the system one
[17:10] <lalejand> rye : so it should work
[17:10] <lalejand> but it doesn't
[17:11] <rye> lalejand, looking at the code
[17:11] <lalejand> rye : do I have to leave an empty line at the end of the file ?
[17:14] <rye> lalejand, could you please check ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log for such line at the beginning - 2011-02-25 18:53:26,531 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.filesystem_notifications.GeneralProcessor - INFO - Ignoring files: ['\\A#.*\\Z', '\\A.*~\\Z', '\\A.*\\.py[oc]\\Z', '\\A.*\\.sw[nopx]\\Z', '\\A.*\\.swpx\\Z', '\\A\\..*\\.tmp\\Z', '\\A\\.svn\\Z']
[17:16] <lalejand> rye : I can't find "Ignoring files" in syncdaemon.log
[17:16] <lalejand> rye : no such line :/
[17:17] <rye> lalejand, do you have INFO level messages there?
[17:17] <lalejand> rye : I mean, no occurence of "Ignoring files" in syncdaemon.log
[17:18] <alecu> success! thisfred, aquarius: my phone just ran all droidcouch tests against a dummy db in our servers!
[17:18] <lalejand> rye : yes I have occurences of "INFO"
[17:18] <thisfred> alecu: WOOOOOOT!
[17:18] <alecu> pending: use non-hardcoded oauth tokens, use a real desktopcouch db, lots of cleanup.
[17:19] <alecu> thisfred, WOOOOOOT indeed! :-)
[17:21] <rye> lalejand, i know why
[17:21] <rye> lalejand, your ignore field is in wrong section - see http://pastebin.com/B535vksa
[17:24] <lalejand> rye : ok, what should I do, to test ? Restart -q & -s the U1 client ?
[17:24] <rye> lalejand, yup
[17:24] <rye> lalejand, and then try creating .svn folder in some Ubuntu One folder
[17:26] <lalejand> rye : my .svn folders already synced will be removed ?
[17:26] <rye> lalejand, no, I am thinking about how that can be accomplished...
[17:26] <ralsina> mandel: got any more branches to test?
[17:26] <lalejand> rye : ok
[17:26] <ralsina> if you don't I am going to get a very late lunch
[17:28] <mandel> ralsina: yes, let me get you another one
[17:28] <mandel> ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add_windows_network_manager/+merge/50891
[17:28] <ralsina> Ok, I'll get a sandwich then :-)
[17:29] <karni> alecu: whoaaa awesome!
[17:32] <ralsina> argh freking bzr for windows and your lame fake permission errors.... SMASH! HULK SMASH!
[17:34] <ralsina> Oh, tea. Nice.
[17:36] <lalejand> rye : aaarghhh, I removed the .svn folder from my U1 folder in order to put it again later and test. Son now it's not in the U1 folder, but I still see it in the U1 web interface :/
[17:36] <lalejand> rye : restarting U1 client to see if it changes something
[17:37] <rye> lalejand, you can remove it from online storage
[17:37] <ralsina> mandel: +1 on that one, now you need a linux reviewer?
[17:37] <mandel> ralsina: I need a review, either linux or windows
[17:37] <lalejand> rye : yes, but I mean ... it didn't replicate the change !
[17:37] <rye> lalejand, because it ignores it completely now
[17:38] <lalejand> rye : ah, ok
[17:38] <lalejand> rrhhha
[17:40] <lalejand> rye : ok it works. .svn not replicated
[17:40] <rye> lalejand, how many .svn folders do you have there?
[17:40] <rye> .svn is one per directory, right? or one per repository?
[17:40] <lalejand> rye : one for each directory
[17:40] <lalejand> rye : hmmm, maybe 30 :/
[17:41] <rye> lalejand, not that fun to remove that manually...
[17:41] <lalejand> rye : you suggest I mannualy delete them in the web interface ?
[17:41] <rye> lalejand, removal/resync may be an option though in this case, how many files are there?
[17:42] <lalejand> rye : I don't know exactly how much, but I think I can do it. No worry
[17:43] <rye> lalejand, to find .svn count you can do find /path/to/some/folder -name '.svn' -type d | wc -l
[17:43] <mandel> eow for me, have all a great weekend
[17:44] <lalejand> rye : ok thx. Another question. I have a lot of problems with the couchDB addressbook. Who is "specialist" for that ?
[17:47] <rye> lalejand, i think we need to talk to ralsina, I was told that he is now related to evolution-couchdb
[17:48] <ralsina> I am not related, I only knew it at a party ;-)
[17:48] <ralsina> rye: evolution-couchdb is rodrigo's
[17:49] <ralsina> it's the one thing he promised to keep working on while rotated
[17:49] <ralsina> IIRC
[17:49] <rye> and he's not here :(
[17:49] <lalejand> rye : ahm :/
[17:49] <lalejand> ok
[17:51] <rye> lalejand, but the issues i am aware of are: it does not work in natty, it does not delete/modify contacts elsewhere - bug #673568
[17:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 673568 in evolution-couchdb (and 1 other project) "Error modifying contact, other error when saving contacts (affects: 38) (dups: 4) (heat: 196)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673568
[17:53] <lalejand> rye : yes I often have a very explicit error "other error" when I try to delete or modify a contact ;). Sometimes after trying several times it works.
[17:53] <lalejand> rye : and also, after syncing contacts to my Ipods, I got some contacts doubled or tripled
[17:56] <lalejand> rye : "to my ipod" (I have only one)
[18:23] <nessita> thisfred: was your messaging fixes released already to main?
[18:23] <nessita> were*
[18:24] <thisfred> nessita: nope :(
[18:24] <thisfred> there was a lint issue in my branch that I missed, so I only landed it *just* after dobey cut the release
[18:25] <nessita> thisfred: ok, can you please attach your branch to bug #721525?
[18:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 721525 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "Two Ubuntu One entries in the Message Panel (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721525
[18:25] <thisfred> nessita: can I do that after the branch is merged?
[18:25] <nessita> thisfred: of course
[18:25] <nessita> thisfred: you should use the LP web ui
[18:26] <dobey> thisfred: you can link it on the web, and launchpad will know about it, but it won't be linked in the revision info in trunk itself
[18:28] <thisfred> nessita: done
[18:28] <nessita> thisfred: thanks!
[18:31] <lalejand> I am syncing more than 44000 files, it can be a problem ?
[18:33] <lalejand> in fact it is increasing and i thing it will reach 74000
[18:33] <lalejand> "think"
[18:42] <nessita> lalejand: it shouldn't be a problem, but you will have to be patient
[18:43] <lalejand> nessita : ok. Other question. When I do --current-transfer I always see 3 transfers. Is there a way to increase that number ?
[18:44] <nessita> lalejand: what client are you running? maverick's? natty's?
[18:44] <lalejand> maverick
[18:45] <nessita> lalejand: nopes, there is not. In natty we made structural changes where that is possible, but that huge change will not be backported to maverick
[18:45] <nessita> sorry :-/
[18:46] <lalejand> nessita : ahm. Ok. No problem
[18:48] <lalejand> nessita : with my huge sync, if i stop it, it will begin from the beginning next time ? Or I can do the sync little by little ?
[18:51] <nessita> lalejand: it will not being the whole process from scratch, but the files that are currently being uploaded will not be resumed, but restarted
[18:52] <nessita> lalejand: so, if you're uploading small files, you will not notice the difference, but if youŕe uploading big files, you may wanna wait for big files to be uploaded
[18:53] <nessita> (if they are already being uploaded)
[18:53] <lalejand> nessita : ok I see. It's clear.
[19:00] <nessita> ralsina: I'm about to book tickets to BA. Shall I arrive Sunday afternoon or Monday morning?
[19:01] <ralsina> nessita: if you feel you can work monday morning after you arrive monday morning is ok
[19:01] <nessita> ralsina: hum, to arrive at 9am I would have to be awake at 5am
[19:02] <ralsina> so, probably sunday night is a better idea
[19:16]  * nessita -> reboots
[19:20] <alecu> ralsina, is there any info on the whereabouts of the sprint?
[19:21] <alecu> (wow, I got that word right!)
[19:22]  * nessita is back
[19:23] <ralsina> alecu: probably the ramada in olivos
[19:24] <ralsina> alecu: but no definitive word on it yet
[19:26] <alecu> great, thanks.
[19:35]  * thisfred has ticket!
[19:36] <thisfred> now I hope ralsina approves my vacation, or I'll be stuck for somewhere to work in B.A. the week after the sprint :)
[19:39] <ralsina> thisfred: I intend to approve it, but I would feel more comfortable asking chipaca about it first
[19:39] <thisfred> ralsina: sure, no real hurry
[19:39] <ralsina> thisfred: worst case, well, I have a sofa and wifi :-)
[19:39] <thisfred> hehe
[19:52] <thisfred> wow. the power just went out. Short enough that my computer kept running, but my wireless router switched off
[19:53] <thisfred> This is what happens with strong winds in Baltimore.
[20:01] <lalejand> I was syncing a folder with something like 74000 files in it. --current-transfer was showing 3 huuuge videos uploading. And then after a while, the notification area showed a message saying "1 new cloud folder available" and from that time --current-transfer says 0 :/
[20:03] <lalejand> u1sdtool -s returns WORKING, but zero transfer !
[20:08] <nessita> lalejand: you said you were running maverick... and we have no notifications messages in maverick. Do you have nightlies enbaled?
[20:08] <nessita> enabled*
[20:10] <lalejand> nessita : yes
[20:10] <nessita> lalejand: ah! then you're enjoying concurrent uploads
[20:11] <nessita> lalejand: are you up to date at package level? what client version are you running?
[20:11] <lalejand> nessita : ?
[20:11] <lalejand> nessita : the one of today
[20:11] <nessita> lalejand: ok, let me seek for some help
[20:11] <lalejand> I just tried to update, there is no update for U1
[20:11] <nessita> facundobatista: ping
[20:12] <ralsina> there, asked marianna to avoid the Ramada if at all possible.
[20:12] <lalejand> nessita : what is the concurrent uploads problem ?
[20:12] <facundobatista> nessita, pong
[20:12] <nessita> lalejand: no, no problem at all, but you asked how to have more than one upload happening at the same time, and since you're running nightlies, you already are using that feature
[20:13] <nessita> facundobatista: can you please help lalejand? lalejand reported that:
[20:13] <nessita> (05:01:36 PM) lalejand: I was syncing a folder with something like 74000 files in it. --current-transfer was showing 3 huuuge videos uploading. And then after a while, the notification area showed a message saying "1 new cloud folder available" and from that time --current-transfer says 0 :/
[20:13] <nessita> (05:03:23 PM) lalejand: u1sdtool -s returns WORKING, but zero transfer !
[20:13] <nessita> facundobatista: maybe you know of a still pending bug to fix about stuck uploads or similar?
[20:13] <lalejand> nessita : ah, I was seeing 3 uploads. It was going slow, but going. And then nothing, zero.
[20:13] <lalejand> nessita : yes
[20:14] <nessita> lalejand: can you explain your issue to facundobatista? he's the master of uploads
[20:14] <lalejand> nessita : ok
[20:14] <facundobatista> nessita, I know of a still pending bug, and I detected *two* situations when that could happen, and I fixed them, I'll propose the branch in minnutes
[20:14] <lalejand> facundobatista : ah
[20:16] <lalejand> facundobatista : my context is : 1 - I sync a folder with 74000 files, 2 - it begins uploading, 3 - it uploads 3 huge videos (at the same time), 4 - I see a notifiction saying I have one new cloud available, 5 - from that moment, --current-transfer is at zero, but -s returns WORKING
[20:17] <lalejand> facundobatista : maybe U1 just finished uploading the folder architecture (a lot of folders and files), and now it is dealing only with the metadata for the moment ?
[20:17] <lalejand> facundobatista : but it wouldn't explain why it began uploading and suddenly stop
[20:19] <facundobatista> lalejand, yes, both situations are triggered with zillion files (and one of them also when server disconnects... something that were happening a lot these days)
[20:19] <facundobatista> lalejand, I mean, it *is* a bug
[20:20] <lalejand> facundobatista : ok what can I do ? Just wait ?
[20:20] <facundobatista> lalejand, do you want to try my branch?
[20:21] <lalejand> facundobatista : teh fix is not available on the PPA ?
[20:21] <facundobatista> lalejand, not yet, it will, but not before Monday, or Tuesday
[20:22] <lalejand> facundobatista : I will wait then
[20:22] <facundobatista> lalejand, ok
[20:23] <lalejand> facundobatista : ahm. Or maybe if I can help testing your code ...
[20:24] <lalejand> facundobatista : if it can be useful for you ...
[20:26] <facundobatista> lalejand, as you wish... maybe we found other case now that these two are solved...
[20:27] <facundobatista> lalejand, you should put your logs in debug mode
[20:29] <lalejand> facundobatista : how would I have to install your branch ? And will it be overrided automaticaly at the next U1 PPA update ? Or will I have to remember to switch from your branch to the PPA again ?
[20:29] <facundobatista> lalejand, you need to branch my branch, and execute the client from there
[20:30] <facundobatista> lalejand, nothing else, if don't execute it explicitly that way, you'll be using the installed in the system
[20:30] <lalejand> facundobatista : ah ok, so let's go
[20:32] <facundobatista> lalejand, the branch is lp:~facundo/ubuntuone-client/unleashed--stuck-situations
[20:32] <facundobatista> bzr branch lp:~facundo/ubuntuone-client/unleashed--stuck-situations test-branch-from-facundo
[20:32] <facundobatista> cd into it
[20:32] <facundobatista> and run
[20:33] <facundobatista> PYTHONPATH=. bin/ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[20:35] <lalejand> facundobatista : ahm, "bzr branch", I don't understand sorry
[20:35] <facundobatista> run this in a command line:
[20:36] <facundobatista> bzr branch lp:~facundo/ubuntuone-client/unleashed--stuck-situations test-branch-from-facundo
[20:36] <facundobatista> lalejand, do you have bazaar installed?
[20:36] <lalejand> facundobatista : ok, I think I understand
[20:36] <lalejand> installing
[20:37] <lalejand> facundobatista : do I have to stop u1sdtool ?
[20:38] <facundobatista> lalejand, you'll have to "u1sdtool -q" to stop the other client, yes
[20:41] <lalejand> facundobatista : ok. "You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to" = not a problem ?
[20:42] <ralsina> EOW for me. Have a nice weekend people!
[20:46] <nessita> lalejand: bzr whoami "Your Name <your email>"
[20:52] <lalejand> facundobatista : ok, it's running. There was an error at the beginning, but it seems to work
[20:53] <lalejand> facundobatista : can I use the commands -s --current-transfer ... in another terminal ?
[20:53] <lalejand> facundobatista : it is writting a lot of lines
[20:57] <facundobatista> lalejand, yes, you can
[20:57] <facundobatista> lalejand, those lines are just debug lines... nessita and/or alecu will remove them from stdout in the future
[20:58] <thisfred> could use reviews on: https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-couch/testing-infrastructure/+merge/51370 I fear it's kind of big, but there was a lot to clean up
[20:58] <lalejand> facundobatista : but I can write "u1sdtool --current-transfer" ? It will not launch the other sync deamon ?
[20:58] <facundobatista> lalejand, no, it will just communicate to the one running
[20:58] <lalejand> facundobatista : ok
[21:02] <intrader> Anyone, unable to synchronize  - also unable to bring up Ubuntu One Gnome applet from either System->Preferences->Ubuntu One, or from toolbar
[21:06] <nessita> intrader: hey there. What system are you running?
[21:17] <intrader> nessita, it is 10.10
[21:17] <nessita> intrader: do you have ubunutone nightlies PPA enabled? (if you don't know what that is, then you don't :-))
[21:18] <intrader> nessita, on both machines that I am having trouble with; that is correct I don't know that nightlies PPA is
[21:19] <nessita> intrader: by 'applet' you mean the Ubuntu One preferences app?
[21:20] <nessita> intrader: can you please paste in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ the output of running in a terminal: u1sdtool -s?
[21:20] <intrader> nessita, yes, from either System-->Preferences-->Ubuntu One, or the toolbar's Toolbar-->mylogin-->Ubuntu one
[21:20] <nessita> intrader: right, yes, is the preferences window. Well, please show me the output of the command above and I will be able to tell if syncdaemon is running or not
[21:21] <intrader> nessita, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/572351/
[21:22] <nessita> looking
[21:22] <nessita> intrader: your syncdaemon is running and has nothing pending to sync
[21:22] <nessita> intrader: what are you expecting to be synced that is not?
[21:23] <intrader> nessita, I am unable to sync - I do this from Tomboy
[21:23] <nessita> intrader: ah, so tomboy is not syncing, not files
[21:23] <nessita> intrader: I thought you were trying tosync files
[21:23] <nessita> to sync*
[21:25] <lalejand> a question : I have 9 contacts on the U1 server, I have 67 contacts in my local U1 database. Who wins ? I will get 9 contacts on my machine or there will be 67 contacts on the U1 server ?
[21:25] <intrader> nessita, I will try the file now - I have updated a file and upon closing I see its icon change to indicate sync. I will look at other machine. How long does it take?
[21:26] <intrader> nessita, the time of write has not been updated on the other machine.
[21:27] <nessita> intrader: it should be seconds of delay
[21:27] <nessita> intrader: anyways, file sync is independent from tomboy sync
[21:29] <intrader> nessita, nothing has happened yet on the second computer - a minute or more now
[21:29] <nessita> intrader: what does u1sdtool -s says in the other computer?
[21:31] <intrader> nessita, not connected for some reason -- the ubuntu one site says the computer is connected
[21:32] <nessita> intrader: the web site says what computer are registered with your account, the word connect is misleading
[21:32] <nessita> beuno: ^
[21:32] <nessita> intrader: you should run u1sdtool -c in your other cmputer
[21:33] <nessita> intrader: the web ui doesn't know about which computer is connected (speaking of file syncdaemon connection). The web ui knows about what devices are registered against the server. Sorry for that confusion...
[21:33] <lalejand>             a question : I have 9 contacts on the U1 server, I have 67 contacts in my local U1 database. Who wins ? I will get 9 contacts on my machine or there will be 67 contacts on the U1 server ?
[21:34] <intrader> nessita, I will do that - second computer now shows the file with proper time.
[21:34] <intrader> nessita, why did it disconnect? Is that not automatic?
[21:35] <nessita> intrader: in maverick no, is not automatic in some cases (is a known bug). As far as I know we should be uploading a fix next week (the fix is ready but it has not reached maverick repo yet)
[21:36] <intrader> nessita, aha - the tomboy notes are not synching either, and the aplet on computer on either computer.
[21:37] <nessita> intrader: about tomboy sync I can't help much, sorry :-( Let me see if I can find someone that can help you
[21:37] <nessita> joshuahoover: you around?
[21:37] <joshuahoover> nessita: yes
[21:38] <nessita> joshuahoover: is there any chance you help intrader debug why tomboy notes are not syncing in his computer?
[21:38] <joshuahoover> nessita: sure
[21:38] <nessita> thanks!
[21:38] <joshuahoover> intrader: hi
[21:38] <intrader> joshuahoover, hi, thanks
[21:39] <dobey> intrader: did you not run the script that rye asked you to try yesterday?
[21:40] <intrader> dobey, sorry I missed that - what is that script?
[21:40] <joshuahoover> intrader: http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/tomboy-sync-validator.py
[21:41] <joshuahoover> intrader: can do something like this: cd /tmp; wget http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/tomboy-sync-validator.py; python tomboy-sync-validator.py
[21:42] <intrader> joshuahoover, a that one - chrome it telling me that it is suspect.
[21:42] <joshuahoover> intrader: try running the set of commands i gave you in a terminal session: applications > accessories > terminal
[21:43] <intrader> joshuahoover, how do I do that?
[21:44] <joshuahoover> intrader: open applications > accessories > terminal, then copy and paste: cd /tmp; wget http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/tomboy-sync-validator.py; python tomboy-sync-validator.py
[21:44] <joshuahoover> intrader: hit return to run those commands
[21:44] <dobey> intrader: chrome is not the most trustworthy application in the respect. it is like an overprotective multinational conglomerate.
[21:45] <joshuahoover> intrader: don't listen to dobey, he's just upset facebook hasn't released a web browser (yet)
[21:45] <joshuahoover> ;-)
[21:46] <dobey> not at all
[21:46] <intrader> joshuahoover, I understand - for me copy of the stuff does not work because of the link - I need to type it.
[21:47] <joshuahoover> intrader: you can't select that line of commands and right-click in the terminal and select "paste"?
[21:47] <dobey> i am totally capable of writing my own browser
[21:48] <joshuahoover> dobey: you mean your own web os?
[21:48] <dobey> no
[21:49] <dobey> http://wayofthemonkey.com/pics/encompass/encompass-20110210.png
[21:49] <dobey> i mean that ^
[21:50] <joshuahoover> dobey: right, there's your os ;)
[21:50] <intrader> joshuahoover, have troubles with it  - here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/572364/
[21:50] <dobey> no, it's not an os
[21:50] <dobey> i can't write an os until i write a new language first
[21:51] <nessita> ok, I'm eoding and eowing
[21:51] <joshuahoover> dobey: good point
[21:52] <intrader> joshuahoover, no, XChat only copies the last part (the link). besides, I have done the commands
[21:53] <intrader> nessita, thanks
[21:53] <joshuahoover> intrader: can you try resetting up tomboy notes sync? go into tomboy prefs, in the sync tab, click the clear button and setup again
[21:54] <intrader> joshuahoover, do I need to do that on the other computer also?
[21:54] <joshuahoover> dobey: i'm testing bug #686647 and not sure i'm doing it right...can you take a look at my test case and the result? http://ubuntuone.com/p/eyK/
[21:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 686647 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "SSO help text does not appear translated in UI (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686647
[21:55] <joshuahoover> intrader: on whichever one you ran the script on, let's do it there first
[21:56] <dobey> joshuahoover: sounds right
[21:56] <intrader> joshuahoover, it synchs ok, but how can I tell without the other computer
[21:57] <dobey> intrader: you can check whether the web site, and your local tomboy, are matching
[21:59] <intrader> dobey, thanks
[21:59] <intrader> joshuahoover, dobey, the applet is not starting - what is the ubuntuone site?
[21:59] <dobey> https://one.ubuntu.com/
[22:01] <intrader> joshuahoover, dobey, it look ok on the web -- what about the applets?
[22:02] <dobey> what applet?
[22:02] <dobey> ubuntuone-preferences ?
[22:04] <danyR> oh, /me has just seen the new U1 header and logo. lovely :)
[22:05] <intrader> dobey, the Ubuntu One applet one gets with System->Preferences->Ubuntu One, or from the toolbar
[22:06] <dobey> intrader: what is the problem?
[22:06] <intrader> dobey, the applet does not start on either computer.
[22:07] <dobey> intrader: what happens when you run ubuntuone-preferences in a terminal?
[22:07] <intrader> dobey, how do I reach that in a terminal?
[22:07] <dobey> intrader: open a terminal and type "ubuntuone-preferences" and press return
[22:09] <intrader> dobey, ERROR: dbus proxies:Introspect error on com.ubuntuone.Preferences.....
[22:09] <dobey> oh dbus
[22:10] <dobey> ok, something is really weird on your system for some reason and i have no idea what or why :(
[22:10] <intrader> dobey, yes the all important dbus - on both computers
[22:10] <dobey> you can maybe try the update that is in the maverick-proposed repository right now
[22:11] <intrader> dobey, tell me more
[22:12] <intrader> dobey, this ubuntu one does not seem ready for prime time :(
[22:12] <lalejand> a question : I have 9 contacts on the U1 server, I have 67 contacts in my local U1 database. Who wins ? I will get 9 contacts on my machine or there will be 67 contacts on the U1 server ?
[22:14] <dobey> lalejand: well i doubt those 9, all have the same IDs as the other 67
[22:15] <dobey> lalejand: so you'll either get 67 on the server, or 76 in both places, or some number between those two
[22:15] <dobey> in the event that say, 5 are already in both places
[22:15] <joshuahoover> intrader: the best guide for enabling proposed is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[22:16] <lalejand> dobey : the 9 are contained in the 67 yes
[22:16] <lalejand> dobey : ok I will see
[22:16] <joshuahoover> intrader: you'll want to create that /etc/apt/preferences file mentioned there and then open applications > accessories > terminal and run: sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client/maverick-proposed python-ubuntuone-client/maverick-proposed ubuntuone-client-gnome/maverick-proposed
[22:17] <joshuahoover> intrader: that assumes you do the first part on the wiki page i linked to, enabling maverick-proposed via system > administration > update manager, updates tab
[22:18] <intrader> joshuahoover, that is a lot of stuff - how safe is this?
[22:18] <joshuahoover> intrader: well, you can do it now or wait until next week when it gets into main
[22:18] <joshuahoover> intrader: main updates that is
[22:19] <intrader> joshuahoover, I am not in a hurry - for now the computers are next door - eventually I want it on ubuntu one. Thanks guys. I will read it anyway.
[22:20] <dobey> well, assuming it gets into -updates next week :)
[22:21] <joshuahoover> dobey: true
[22:21] <dobey> later all
[22:21] <joshuahoover> later
[22:25] <intrader> dobey, joshuahoover I will cycle both computers - should I connect both of them?
[22:25] <joshuahoover> intrader: connect both of them? you mean set them both up to sync notes with u1?
[22:34] <intrader> joshuahoover, they both were supposed to be connected, but something broke during my interactions with karni.
[22:36] <joshuahoover> intrader: sorry, i'm not sure what all was done previously...this is definitely not a typical experience on maverick
[22:37] <intrader> joshuahoover, we just got u1sdtool to connect, then tried, first file update, file dropping (did not work until a day after), then the notes, which then disappeared the applet on both computers presumably with the same error in dbus
[22:38] <karni> intrader: 'something broke' ?
[22:39] <karni> intrader: I thought we managed to finally connect them, but the didn't sync
[22:39] <joshuahoover> intrader: what applet are you referring to?
[22:39] <karni> intrader: your computers weren't connected with U1 at all in the first place :<
[22:40] <karni> intrader: if I recall correctly, u1sdtool returned 'is_connected: true / is_online: true' on both computers, but they still didn't sync
[22:41] <karni> which confused me greatly and I couldn't help any further :(
[22:41] <intrader> karni, the applet stopped starting - now we know that it is dbus proxy error. The file drop took one day to be seen on second computer
[22:41] <karni> intrader: I have no idea what applet are you talking about :<
[22:41] <lalejand> dobey : what happens if I delete a file that is being uploaded ?
[22:41] <intrader> joshuahoover, ubuntuone-preferences
[22:42] <intrader> karni,ubuntuone-preferences
[22:42] <karni> lalejand: if my knowledge is correct, the upload should be interrupted, but I'm not 100%. try asking __lucio__ or verterok
[22:43] <joshuahoover> intrader: can you point me to the full output when you run ubuntuone-preferences?
[22:43] <lalejand> verterok : what happens if i delete a file that is being uploaded ?
[22:44] <verterok> lalejand: the upload will be cancelled/interrupted
[22:44] <intrader> karni, at one point everything was working for weeks on end. Then a week ago, the file sync stopped working, then while trying to fix, with karni, I lost the tomboy sync and the applet
[22:44] <lalejand> verterok : ok and u1 sync deamon continues his job normally ?
[22:44] <joshuahoover> intrader: how did you see that file sync stopped working?
[22:44] <karni> lalejand: indeed. it's very clever :)
[22:44] <verterok> lalejand: yes
[22:44] <lalejand> verterok : ok thx
[22:45] <karni> intrader: o_O you didn't mention any of that
[22:45] <karni> intrader: we didn't touch your tomboy and.. the 'applet' (?)
[22:46] <karni> intrader: we did a normal reconnect procedure that is advised for anyone that is having trouble with U1
[22:46] <intrader> joshuahoover, ,karni - I just noticed the sync on tomboy failing after - here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/572381/
[22:46] <karni> now I'm the bad guy :S
[22:46] <joshuahoover> intrader: when files stopped syncing, did you select to sync a lot of files?
[22:47] <intrader> karni, definitely not.
[22:47] <karni> that definitely looks like some more complicated problem o_O
[22:47] <intrader> joshuahoover, just one!
[22:47] <joshuahoover> intrader: you didn't select to sync a folder or anything like that?
[22:47] <karni> joshuahoover: we we're testing with 1 text file.
[22:48] <karni> joshuahoover: and once he created a file, he immediately got a .conflict on the other
[22:48] <intrader> joshuahoover, I may have tried to sync Ubuntu One folder
[22:48] <karni> joshuahoover: and the same thing the other way around
[22:48] <joshuahoover> karni: but he said things were working previously and then just stopped...normally when you get this timeout error on maverick it's because syncdaemon is too busy processing a ton of files (local_rescan)
[22:48] <karni> joshuahoover: we did check that. it was idle, in queue_manager
[22:49] <joshuahoover> karni: interesting...did you get a chance to look at log files?
[22:49] <karni> joshuahoover: (in regular case, ineed what you're saying makes perfect sense)
[22:49] <intrader> karni, joshuahoover, where are the log files?
[22:49] <joshuahoover> intrader: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log
[22:49] <karni> joshuahoover: not really :< we were disconnecting sd, doing the auth procedure from scratch, and connecting again (it took us quite a while..)
[22:50] <joshuahoover> intrader: would be good to know if any syncdaemon-exception logs have something in them
[22:50] <joshuahoover> karni: strange
[22:50] <karni> excuse me guys, I have to get back to the Android app. if I can be of any help, please let me know.
[22:50] <karni> joshuahoover: yea I know :<
[22:51] <joshuahoover> karni: thanks
[22:51] <karni> np
[22:51] <karni> oh, joshuahoover , by the way. did intrader mention he tried the whole reinstall U1 procedure proposed by you somewhere on the forum?
[22:52] <intrader> karni, joshuahoover, there is a log and a partials folders
[22:52] <karni> joshuahoover: I'm not sure if it was up to date. if not (10.10 compatible?), maybe something broke on the way
[22:52] <joshuahoover> karni: quite possible...i try to keep the latest and greatest at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ
[22:52] <karni> that's just what I recall.. good luck guys. I know intrader has been fighting this problem for couple of days already :<
[22:53] <karni> joshuahoover: aha. intrader , were did you take the Joshua's "reinstall whole U1" procedure from?
[22:53] <intrader> karni, I am lost
[22:54] <karni> intrader: remember, before we started fixing things, you told me
[22:54] <karni> intrader: that you tried to uninstall Ubuntu One and reinstall it from scratch looking at Joshuas tutorial/hints (possibly from the forums?). where did you take the instructions form?
[22:55]  * karni needs to get back to work..
[22:55] <intrader> karni, a lot simpler - with you I simply tried u1sdtool in various ways as you suggested. Finally both computers synched on the file. But the tomboy notes stooped synching and the applet stopped altogether.
[22:56] <joshuahoover> intrader: it might be best for you to run the following commands and then send ~/Desktop/u1logs.tar.bz to ubuntuone-support@canonical.com : tar -cjf ~/Desktop/u1logs.tar.bz2 ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log
[22:56] <karni> intrader: :) I was asking, what have you done *before* we talked. Where did you take the instructions from :)
[22:56] <karni> intrader: ok, just follow joshuahoover instructions now :) good luck!
[22:58] <intrader> joshuahoover, karni, what commands are you saying? the tar commands?
[22:58] <joshuahoover> intrader: yes, run the tar command and then send an email with the tar file attached to it so u1 support can look at it
[22:59] <intrader> I will do that
[22:59] <joshuahoover> intrader: thanks
[23:00] <intrader> joshuahoover, one tar command - right?
[23:00] <joshuahoover> intrader: yes
[23:02] <intrader> joshuahoover, gdm, the damm copy in Xchat does nto work. I need to type the thing.
[23:04] <intrader> joshuahoover, tar is telling me that it is removing '/' from member names --what does this mean
[23:04] <joshuahoover> intrader: ah, sorry about that...i use pidgin & copy/paste works ok here
[23:04] <joshuahoover> intrader: ignore that
[23:05] <joshuahoover> intrader: the file should be created on your Desktop
[23:05] <intrader> ls Desktop
[23:06] <intrader> joshuahoover, I see uilogs.tar.bz2. I will send that to where please?
[23:07] <joshuahoover> intrader: ubuntuone-support@canonical.com
[23:07] <intrader> joshuahoover, I will do that
[23:07] <joshuahoover> intrader: thanks
[23:10] <intrader> joshuahoover, done.
[23:10] <joshuahoover> intrader: i see it "Trouble with ubuntu one sync."
[23:12] <intrader> joshuahoover, where do you look?
[23:12] <joshuahoover> intrader: what do you mean?
[23:13] <intrader> joshuahoover, where do you see the message I sent?
[23:13] <joshuahoover> intrader: in the u1 support system
[23:14] <intrader> joshuahoover, I suppose I don't have access to that?
[23:14] <joshuahoover> intrader: what happens when you run this command right now? u1sdtool --status
[23:14] <joshuahoover> intrader: no, that's for the u1 team only...the only way you have access is via email...it should have sent you an auto-reply with a ticket #
[23:15] <intrader> joshuahoover, all normal
[23:16] <joshuahoover> intrader: what is the output?
[23:17] <intrader> joshuahoover, here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/572391/
[23:18] <joshuahoover> intrader: ok, and if you try: ubuntuone-preferences
[23:18] <joshuahoover> intrader: do you still get the timeout error now?
[23:19] <intrader> joshuahoover, still timing out
[23:19] <joshuahoover> intrader: that is strange
[23:20] <intrader> joshuahoover, same error I sent before
[23:20] <joshuahoover> intrader: can you tell me what version of u1-client you are running? run: apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client
[23:22] <intrader>  joshuahoover Installed: 1.4.5-0ubuntu1 /r Candidate: 1.4.5-0ubuntu1
[23:22] <joshuahoover> intrader: ok, that's right...hmmm
[23:23] <intrader> joshuahoover, can we continue later? My wife wants me to go to Costco
[23:23] <joshuahoover> intrader: yes, i'm about done for today so it'll have to be monday for me
[23:24] <intrader> joshuahoover, thanks a bunch. Talk to you one Monday - have a nice weekend
[23:24] <joshuahoover> intrader: you too
[23:41] <achiang> hello, how long should i expect to wait between time of purchase of music on U1MS vs. the actual download? using rhythmbox in maverick
[23:42] <achiang> i should note that this is on a new machine; hadn't hooked up my SSO on it before; did so within rhythmbox (successfully); and i just purchased a new album (although old music hasn't sync'ed over yet either)
[23:44] <achiang> darn, rockstar is on holiday today