[02:11] <efpc2003> hi
[02:12] <efpc2003> i use xubuntu 8.04.4 : how to... set up flash... i can not see videos on youtube, midori web browser
[02:13] <efpc2003> firefox works fine but is too heavy
[02:13] <efpc2003> pentium III 550Mhz
[02:31]  * mpzn is away: gone
[02:31]  * mpzn is back (gone 00:00:15)
[03:59] <irchatter> How do I create a cron process to periodically remove the trash? What I have thus far fails to work :0 5 * * * * rm -rf /home/.local/share/Trash/*
[08:01] <meth[phone]> anyone know what i can run to figure out why i can't do an upgrade ? something with my pkg db is messed up
[12:04] <xubuntu005> hi! I'm here looking for some help
[12:04] <TheSheep> !hi
[12:06] <xubuntu005> i installed xubuntu, it finished correctly, but when i restarted my computer instead of a boot menu the windows started, when i started the boot menu manually the xubuntu wasnt there
[12:07] <xubuntu005> any idea?
[12:07] <TheSheep> you started boot menu manually?
[12:08] <xubuntu005> with F8
[12:08] <TheSheep> that's windows boot menu
[12:08] <TheSheep> of course xubuntu won't be there
[12:08] <TheSheep> !grub
[12:08] <xubuntu005> i see
[12:08] <TheSheep> xubuntu005: try that 'restore grub' link
[12:09] <TheSheep> !grub2
[12:11] <xubuntu005> thanks
[12:42] <brousch> OK, Xubuntu is awesome. I installed it on my HP Compaq tc1100 tablet and the touchscreen and stylus worked ootb. I've never had that happen with any other distro
[17:37] <littlegirl> Hey there, is there a way to add the Recent Documents interface from the Places menu into the Xfce Menu?
[17:55] <pedropedrelli> hi
[17:56] <knome> hello
[17:56] <knome> bye
[17:56] <knome> :P
[18:02] <littlegirl> Hey there, is there a way to add the Recent Documents interface from the Places menu into the Xfce Menu?
[18:04] <LucyIntheSky> How can I make window manager buttons bigger (IE the whole bar)
[18:05] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, right click places and its in the properties
[18:06] <charlie-tca> LucyIntheSky: the title bar across the top?
[18:06] <LucyIntheSky> charlie-tca, yea xfwm4
[18:06] <LucyIntheSky> its tiny and the DPI setting didn't make it any bigger. im on a 37" tv....
[18:07] <charlie-tca> The only way I know is applications -> Settings -> Settings Manger -> window manager
[18:07] <charlie-tca> grow the title font bigger
[18:07] <littlegirl> LucyIntheSky: Thanks! That must be something recent, though, because I don't see it in the properties in 10.04. I'll grab the most recent one and see. (:
[18:08] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, yea im on 10.10
[18:08] <brousch> charlie-tca: that doesn't seem to make the menu bar taller
[18:08] <LucyIntheSky> charlie-tca, yea that only changes the font
[18:08] <littlegirl> LucyIntheSky: Will grab it. (:
[18:09] <knome> there is no way to make the buttons larger, except modify the xfwm4 theme
[18:09] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, im glad you asked because I never bothered to look at that either it will come in handy.
[18:09] <brousch> LucyIntheSky: in the past i have changed the theme to do those kinds of things: make menu taller, make the scroll bar wider
[18:09] <LucyIntheSky> brousch, yea I found one that is a bit bigger but still the buttons are tiny from this distance on this display.. the DPI setting in xfce settings made everything else perfect except the WM for some reason..
[18:10] <littlegirl> LucyIntheSky: Heh, cool! I've used it for years with KDE. The current Kubuntu makes my computer run like molasses, though, so I'm checking into Xubuntu. (:
[18:10] <charlie-tca> LucyIntheSky: if you grow the title font 2 or 4 points at a time, the buttons grow with the title size
[18:10] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, ive always heard kde was slow, never used it though 10.10 xfce is lightning I am on a very good machine with an ssd though ;-)
[18:11] <knome> the buttons are still pixmap, so the button images do not become larger
[18:11] <LucyIntheSky> charlie-tca, hrm ok. let me try again.
[18:11] <knome> charlie-tca, am i correct?
[18:11] <charlie-tca> They grow for me in 10.04 with the window title font growing bigger
[18:11] <LucyIntheSky> yes I think you are correct they are pixmap... but let me try anyway
[18:11] <charlie-tca> They are resizing to match the font size
[18:11] <knome> i know they are pixmap. i drew some of them ;]
[18:11] <littlegirl> LucyIntheSky: Mine isn't top of the line, but I have decent hardware. I was shocked at how badly Kubuntu ran. Right now I'm using Debian and have Xubuntu in a VM, and am considering making it my operating system. Debian doesn't hold my hand enough, and it's behind the times on software compared to Ubuntu. (:
[18:11] <charlie-tca> but a large jump in the font size failed to work
[18:13] <charlie-tca> could be theme related, too. I use Defcon-IV for the window manager
[18:13] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, yea. never used debian but I did have to get some packages from debian ironically because ubuntu still doesn't support multi-processor video decoding for some reason.. which is the whole point of this machine.
[18:13] <LucyIntheSky> or the packages on ubuntu don't support it I should say.
[18:13] <LucyIntheSky> increasing the font size does NOT work on 10.10
[18:14] <littlegirl> LucyIntheSky: I've found that not all Ubuntu debs can be run inside Debian. It's like they both store stuff in different places and have different default software. Debian is okay, but I think newcomers to Linux would have a much easier time with Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu. (:
[18:15] <knome> LucyIntheSky, as i said, the only way is to edit the theme
[18:15] <LucyIntheSky> knome, do you know how I would go about doing that, would I have to make new images?
[18:15] <littlegirl> One big example is that sources.list does not get set up for you automatically in Debian the way it does in Ubuntu. It took me a while to realize that. (:
[18:15] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, yea (X)ubuntu is great.
[18:15] <knome> LucyIntheSky, yeah, new images
[18:16] <LucyIntheSky> knome, im not much of a photo maker/editor :-(
[18:17] <knome> LucyIntheSky, it shouldn't be *too hard* with that style
[18:17] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, if you do upgrade anything get the intel x25-v 40gb ssd for like $97 make more of a difference than anything else probably unless your on a very old machine.
[18:17] <charlie-tca> hm, knome knows a lot more about the themes than I do...
[18:17] <knome> charlie-tca, no wonder really x)
[18:18]  * charlie-tca knows the answer! knome wrote themes for xubuntu
[18:18]  * knome hides
[18:18] <LucyIntheSky> so if I open the pixmaps for a current theme and resize will that work.?
[18:18] <LucyIntheSky> 0r will they look like crap
[18:18] <littlegirl> LucyIntheSky: My machine is about two years old, so I'm not in the market for new stuff quite yet, but maybe in another year. (:
[18:19] <knome> LucyIntheSky, they won't look very good if you just plainly resize them, but stretching them so that they don't look too bad is doable quite easily
[18:19] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, thats my point pretty much, in a year. buy an ssd that will be cheaper by then it will make more of a difference than a new machine. you probably have a core 2 duo or something if it's intel and thats fast enough.
[18:20] <LucyIntheSky> knome, thanks Ill have to look in to that at some point.
[18:20]  * charlie-tca going hide again. He is tired of being wrong now.
[18:20] <knome> LucyIntheSky, no problem
[18:21] <LucyIntheSky> im glad we are in xubuntu in ubuntu they yell at you for offtopic even if it's friendly.
[18:21] <littlegirl> LucyIntheSky: I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 89W Dual-Core Processor. Hopefully that's good enough. (:
[18:21] <LucyIntheSky> littlegirl, im not a fan of amd my self, but thats not bad at all.
[18:22] <knome> littlegirl, LucyIntheSky: by the way, there is #xubuntu-offtopic for non-support discussion :)
[18:22] <LucyIntheSky> lol. ok
[18:22] <littlegirl> For image resizing, I look for smooth scale, which fills in the image for you with multiple colors to make enlarging images look a bit smoother. (:
[18:22] <littlegirl> knome: This is non-support? The reason for discussing it was that Kubuntu doesn't run well on the hardware, so Xubuntu is being tried out.
[18:23] <knome> littlegirl, sorry, i might be a bit unfocused. that one last line looked like spec comparing though ;)
[18:23] <LucyIntheSky> heres the last thing I'll say, my core 2 duo machine ran much better than my i7 when it had the ssd in it lol.
[18:24] <Sysi> knome: tech talk isn't yet bad offtopic (but slightly)
[18:24] <LucyIntheSky> hey its all about computers right. so its all ontopic
[18:24] <ochosi> :)
[18:25] <Sysi> until somebody has a question about xubuntu
[18:25] <LucyIntheSky> id be more than willing to help them lol ;-) thats how we all started talking
[18:25] <littlegirl> I'll try not to discuss hardware when talking about operating systems from now on. (:
[18:25] <LucyIntheSky> sounds hard to do ;-p
[18:26] <LucyIntheSky> where can I get a theme with huge buttons any ideas?
[18:26] <knome> LucyIntheSky, littlegirl: no problem really, just go ahead ;)
[18:27] <LucyIntheSky> np to you either knome ;-D
[18:28] <ochosi> LucyIntheSky: huge buttons in gtk or xfwm?
[18:28] <LucyIntheSky> xfwm I believe.
[18:28] <ochosi> right
[18:28] <ochosi> xfwm is pretty simple, just modify a theme
[18:29] <LucyIntheSky> alrighty.
[18:29] <ochosi> you can find them in /usr/share/themes
[18:29] <LucyIntheSky> yea let me look @ the one im using and make a backup. real quick.
[18:29] <LucyIntheSky> lol 'piranha'
[18:31] <LucyIntheSky> what do I want to do to it in gimp?
[18:31] <ochosi> yeah, just start by upscaling all the important parts and then rename it to "Whale"
[18:32]  * knome laughs
[18:32] <LucyIntheSky> I scaled it to 2x as big it looks ok
[19:43] <Ya___> hello guys
[20:12] <autif1> !hi
[21:28] <brousch> xubuntu does not seem to recognize my monitor. settings->display only offers me 800x600, but the monitor supports 1440x900
[21:28] <brousch> do i have to modify the xorg.conf to fix that?
[21:30] <Sysi> try arandr
[21:42] <brousch> ah, installing the nvidia-96 driver seems to have opened the other resolutions
[21:42] <brousch> beautiful
[21:44] <Sysi> with restricted driver you should propably use nvidias own thingy
[21:44] <brousch> i enabled all of the repos and installed the one from there
[21:45] <brousch> i think that's how i'd been running it in gnome ubuntu too
[21:52] <asadeddin_> Hey all, I need some help.
[21:53] <asadeddin_> I am looking to move some of the computers at the office from XP to Xubuntu
[21:53] <asadeddin_> but I fear that the GUI might confuse a lot of people, thus I've been looking at Linux Mint as it's closer to XP than Xubuntu
[21:53] <asadeddin_> what do you guys think?
[21:54] <Sysi> users get confused because menu is in different corner?
[21:54] <asadeddin_> well, because of the two tool bars
[21:54] <Sysi> i hope you won't have bigger problems than that
[21:54] <asadeddin_> one on the top and the other on the bottom
[21:55] <Sysi> iirc there says "Menu" or "Applications"
[21:55] <asadeddin_> like Linux Mint has both combined, I guess I can do that in Xubuntu with a little customizing
[21:55] <asadeddin_> right?
[21:55] <asadeddin_> I hope so too
[21:56] <Sysi> depending on what level you need to do it
[21:56] <Sysi> changing settings is very easy, changing global settings bit harder and making custom installation pretty difficult
[21:56] <asadeddin_> i need to ask as well, I've been reading that although Xubuntu is supposed to be resourcec light, it actually isn't as it seems to be and might be heavier
[21:57] <asadeddin_> yeah I guess I'll just make some settings after each installation is done
[21:57] <asadeddin_> what do you think about Xubuntu's performace
[21:57] <asadeddin_> like
[21:57] <asadeddin_> I've got 512mb ram to play with
[21:57] <Sysi> ubuntu works better on less ram than gnome
[21:57] <asadeddin_> only using Oo and Firefox
[21:58] <asadeddin_> do you mean Xubuntu?
[21:58] <Sysi> yes
[21:58] <Sysi> 512 is quite enough for xubuntu
[21:58] <asadeddin_> glad to hear that
[21:58] <asadeddin_> do you think my move will work in the office/
[21:58] <asadeddin_> I'm quite tired of microsoft and their stupid requirements
[21:59] <asadeddin_> ?
[21:59] <Sysi> if you have even a bit open-minded users
[21:59] <Sysi> we have xubuntu at school, not much problems
[22:00] <asadeddin_> right... Well now for the more difficult question. I'm looking to do them as fat clients, as in Network Login for users
[22:00] <asadeddin_> would you know any good reasource on the subject matter
[22:02] <Sysi> if you want global user accounts you need to deal with PAM and LDAP and propably NFS or Samba
[22:02] <asadeddin_> I see.... I 'm looking to make an Ubuntu Server with Xubuntu clients connected to it for File & Printer sharing. Also for fat client
[22:03] <asadeddin_> Samba is probably best for the first two
[22:03] <asadeddin_> LDAP for Fat client?
[22:04] <Sysi> NFS is better for linux-linux file sharing
[22:05] <Sysi> LDAP is like database for user accounts
[22:05] <asadeddin_> what about openLDAP?
[22:05] <asadeddin_> what's the difference?
[22:05] <Sysi> same thing propably
[22:05] <asadeddin_> I know a lot of these questions I can google, but you seem to be doing a pretty good job of answering them X)
[22:06] <Sysi> i'm not actual sysadmin, never set up that kind of system but we have it at school and i somewhat know how it works
[22:07] <asadeddin_> ok i see
[22:07] <Sysi> i do am part of sysadmin group
[22:07] <asadeddin_> maybe i should check out the ubuntu server
[22:07] <asadeddin_> channel
[22:07] <asadeddin_> but anyways, i would rather setup and use Samba just incase I ever want to add an XP machine
[22:08] <asadeddin_> so I guess Samba + LDAP = Happiness?
[22:08] <asadeddin_> I found this in case you might ever need it: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-authentication.html
[22:09] <Sysi> you can have both for file sharing
[22:10] <Sysi> personally i've never used samba, it may work as well
[22:10] <asadeddin_> i see
[22:11] <asadeddin_> well thanks a lot
[22:12] <Sysi> np
[22:12] <knome> for what i know, samba works okay.
[22:12] <asadeddin_> i've heard good things about Samba
[22:12] <asadeddin_> and it's overall functionality
[22:13] <asadeddin_> also a lot of tutorials seem to include it
[22:13] <knome> it's okay if you *must* connect to windows network. if you don't need to, then it's useless
[22:15] <asadeddin_> well, I might need to, it's not a total conversion to Linux, there might be still some pcs on there
[22:15] <knome> yup
[22:16] <asadeddin_> interestingly enough, I'm chatting on the Ubuntu-server channel
[22:16] <asadeddin_> and someone is saying LDAP might be overkill for the whole thing
[22:16] <asadeddin_> I have yet to understand why from him
[22:25] <asadeddin_> Ok... so if you wanted to know
[22:26] <asadeddin_> Samba might be able to do this as well: the login/pass is passed back to the samba server....set it with smbpasswd like he said.