[01:17] Tm_T__: Do you know if any powerpc macs have Broadcom wireless? I'm looking for stuff to throw off the CD so it's not oversized. === claydoh|werk_ is now known as claydoh|werk [09:55] debfx: pong [09:59] apachelogger: had a question about ScottK's arm boxes but the build is running now [09:59] k [10:45] morning [10:47] tarball's up [10:47] get packaging people [10:53] shadeslayer: tarballs of what? [10:53] KDE 4.6.1 [10:53] kool [10:53] ~ninjas [10:53] apachelogger, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, stdin and vorian ... to the Batcave! [10:54] Why this list is not up to date? [10:56] because the ninjas are sneaky like that [10:57] Quintasan: I think you want !ninjas [10:58] hmm [10:58] !ninjas [10:58] Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger [10:58] oh [10:59] I will be busy in few minutes but, Can I give some help for packaging this afternoon ? (4.6.1) [11:00] I meant, it's a reserved task for ninjas or anyone can participate ? [11:00] you mean [11:00] ~ninjas [11:00] apachelogger, Arby, devfil, JontheEchidna, nhandler, Riddell, ScottK, stdin and vorian ... to the Batcave! [11:01] bambee: I think you can help :P [11:01] great :) [11:01] whut? [11:01] ? [11:02] bambee: are you a member yet? [11:02] ah [11:02] apachelogger: new tarballz [11:02] shadeslayer: what is ze wiki urlz? [11:02] shadeslayer: also, do you want to become a supreme manager like me? [11:02] Quintasan: when is neon coming out [11:02] apachelogger: sure [11:02] bambee: you were considering writing soundmenu for plasma? [11:02] apachelogger: when we get kdegraphics split done [11:02] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [11:02] Quintasan: not yet, I have not contributed enough for that, imho [11:02] apachelogger: we have artworkz now [11:03] also [11:03] apachelogger: I'm coding it [11:03] >supreme manager === shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 3 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | KDE 4.6.1 tarball's up : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [11:03] >apachelogger [11:03] does not compute [11:03] apachelogger: my brain is parallel :p [11:03] well [11:03] bambee: are you a student? [11:04] no seriously these days I develop soundmenu for kde yes, but I can help for other tasks :) [11:04] apachelogger: I'm [11:05] (my studies ends soon) [11:05] bambee: you might be holding your efforts [11:05] bambee: http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Project:_Plasma-based_kmix_Volume_Applet [11:05] apachelogger: wth does holding your efforts mean ? :P [11:05] dunno [11:05] * apachelogger is not fully awake yet [11:06] * apachelogger also hopes no one notices the very obvious try to drag bambee into KDE development [11:06] apachelogger: interesting.. :) [11:06] darn it [11:06] apachelogger: fix0r my code [11:06] I shall [11:06] where is it? [11:06] apachelogger: then i can start working on KAuth and neon [11:07] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/5833/ [11:07] * bambee must work his english seriously xD [11:07] shadeslayer: clear the wiki [11:07] yeah working on that [11:07] shadeslayer: do you not has a clone and or branch? [11:07] apachelogger: gimme 10 mins [11:08] KDE Logic... :/ [11:08] in 10 mins I have this comimted and stuff :P [11:08] http://i.imgur.com/AR8EO.png [11:08] the window says it couldnt connect [11:08] and the plasma notification says it connected successfully [11:08] Quintasan: siq4-qt3 is done right? [11:09] shadeslayer: if by done you mean updated then yes [11:10] why the hell i cant create a dolphin entry for ktown [11:11] apachelogger: I come back in the afternoon, can we talk about that later ? but I would love get involved in kde development, indeed [11:11] ok done changing wiki [11:12] (and kubuntu development/packaging too :D) [11:12] ffs [11:12] * Quintasan takes kdelibs [11:16] * apachelogger hates hacking on freign code [11:17] bambee: certainly [11:17] :) [11:22] apachelogger: git clone git://anongit.kde.org:/clones/kde-workspace/garg/kde-workspace.git [11:22] already got it :P [11:22] uh [11:22] heh :P [11:22] actually I already have your stuff fixed too [11:22] oh [11:22] just testing does not like to work with 4.6 it seems [11:23] apachelogger: plz2show diff [11:23] hm [11:23] that needs refactoring actually [11:23] most horrible code [11:24] :D [11:24] shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/5882/ [11:24] plz try that [11:25] * apachelogger gets install problems with it [11:25] in particular the kauth helper seems to refuse helping at all [11:25] DERP === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:26] shadeslayer: If you start working on kdegraphics we can release it within one hour -_- [11:26] I mean Project Neon [11:26] Quintasan: ok ... i'll look at it [11:29] shadeslayer: does it werk? [11:29] apachelogger: it ez compiling [11:29] how long does this take then? :O [11:29] haven't compiled in a week, so it'll take time [11:29] just compile the kcm :P [11:30] shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/5883/ [11:30] revised processnewstuff [11:32] kde bug 262523 [11:33] Error: Could not parse XML returned by KDE: [Errno 101] Network is unreachable (http://bugs.kde.org/xml.cgi?id=262523) [11:33] -.- [11:33] oh [11:33] I cannot reach it either [11:33] seems bko is down for maintenance [11:39] apachelogger: Any idea sudo part of debian/patches/kubuntu_06_user_disk_mounting.diff didnt go upstream? [11:39] everything else is already there [11:40] sudo part? [11:40] can you plz past0r the patch0r [11:40] also IIRC that paritcular patch is utter shit anyway [11:41] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/5885 [11:41] and should be replaced by kauth or somesuch stuff ... or proper udev profiles .... something else at least [11:41] only sudo stuff is left [11:41] sudo stuff? [11:41] ffs [11:41] sudoCommandName() you mean? [11:41] yes [11:41] because that function is the shit [11:42] So do I remove this patch or edit it so it applies? [11:42] ffs [11:42] edit [11:42] and report a bug [11:43] that stuff shoudl be done via udev or if it must be kauth and a helper [11:43] apachelogger: so report a bug for me [11:43] ay [11:43] e [11:47] apachelogger: ok so the patch works, but i dont see the theme being listed after it's downloaded [11:47] and my system is all sorts of crapped out with 2 X Srvers [11:47] *servers [11:47] and if you restart the kcm? [11:48] nothing [11:48] shadeslayer: what is the bug you are fixing btw? [11:50] kde bug [11:51] well yes [11:51] kde bug 262523 [11:51] what is it about [11:51] bko times out [11:51] Error: Could not parse XML returned by KDE: [Errno 101] Network is unreachable (http://bugs.kde.org/xml.cgi?id=262523) [11:51] ah [11:51] its about the star icon not being shown [11:51] the GHNS icon [11:51] ah [11:51] well [11:51] I believe there is more defunct [11:52] both the old code and the new one will install to a user location [11:52] that cannot work I'd say [11:53] hmm [11:53] ah finally [11:53] fixed my windows in stable KDE [11:54] also I do not see where the new things get added to the themewidget [11:55] needs more work definitely, but the button stuff should be ok now [11:58] hmm [11:59] apachelogger: maybe fregl knows ? [12:11] knows what? [12:12] ... [12:13] how to fix the problem [12:14] shadeslayer: why would he know? [12:14] because ossi said so? [12:14] whut? [12:14] fregl did not write the kcm? [12:14] ! [12:14] shadeslayer: but i have no idea how it is supposed to be. ask fregl [12:15] I already told you how it is supposed to be :P [12:15] editing quilt patches is a pita [12:15] you just did not listen [12:15] aw .. bugs.kde.org is down [12:15] shadeslayer: the kcm needs to take the theme downloaded by KNS and do shit with it [12:15] ok [12:15] namely invoke the kcm helper and move the theme to the system location where themes are stored [12:15] damn you [12:15] damn you quilt [12:15] and then the kcm eneds to insert the widget into the treeview which currenlty does not seem to happen [12:16] apachelogger: rewrite this damn patch so we can drop it :/ [12:16] I did not write it === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:59] GREAT, MORE FTBFS [13:00] what the... === Tm_T__ is now known as Tm_Tr [13:00] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572615 [13:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/572616 <-- error [13:01] won't say I understand this [13:02] ah [13:02] Quintasan: report in #kde-devel to dirk [13:02] this is our patch shadeslayer [13:02] hahah [13:02] shadeslayer: kubuntu_77_ksambashare.diff [13:02] there are missing parenthesis i think [13:03] COOL STORY BRO [13:03] I can read the message [13:03] but where the hell do I put that missing (? [13:03] that would be rbelem's patch no? [13:03] looking [13:03] Most likely, too bad my regexp skills are next to none === tarun is now known as Guest52103 [13:09] yikes [13:10] that is some scary regex [13:11] what I can guess it is that it extracts text from [] and it probably contains whitespaces [13:14] that like looks all sorts of foobared ... it has 3 strings one after the other [13:14] why not combine it into 1? [13:15] Quintasan: there is an unescaped " in the regex [13:15] "([^%<>*\?|/\\+=;:",]+)" [13:15] ah ^^ [13:15] oh [13:15] makes perfect sense [13:15] [13:15] apachelogger: can that not me made into 1 single string? [13:16] eh, an unescaped quotation :D [13:16] why do we have 3 strings? [13:16] hehe [13:16] shadeslayer: it is one string [13:16] I think that's for "readability" reasons [13:16] just spread across 3 lines [13:16] yofel: I do not find that regex very readable though ^^ [13:17] apachelogger: yes, but instead of having "string1" "string2" "string3", have : "string1 \ string 2 \ string3" [13:17] apachelogger: all regexes are write-only, but I guess he did think it would make it easier... [13:17] apachelogger: you mean third one? [13:17] shadeslayer: that is more errorprone [13:17] forget a back slash and you are doomed [13:17] (... )+=;:\"<---this?,]+ (...) [13:17] Quintasan: hai [13:17] well [13:17] heh [13:17] yes, that one [13:18] which is the second one of that line ^^ [13:18] oh damn it [13:18] whos got entertainment recommendations for me? [13:18] I am out of things to watch it would seem [13:19] and I need to test phonon vlc's videowidget ;) ;) ;) [13:19] WTF http://paste.kde.org/5897 [13:19] * apachelogger loves how working on multimedia stuff provides excuses to watch movies and tv series ^^ [13:19] apachelogger: newest show from AmeriKKKa [13:19] Quintasan: whut is that? [13:19] apachelogger: awwww yeah it builds [13:20] shadeslayer: clearly someone messed up === Guest52103 is now known as c2tarun [13:20] hmm [13:20] macro_optional_find_package is not part of the standard cmake cmds [13:20] meaning it is a macro defined in some addition [13:22] also [13:22] apachelogger: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/kamera/repository/revisions/master/entry/CMakeLists.txt [13:22] include(MacroLibrary) x2 and include(MacroOptionalAddSubdirectory) x2 [13:22] I did not say that upstream messed up... :P [13:23] apachelogger: no not that, i mean, that CMakeLists.txt has duplicate includes [13:24] so? [13:24] should be fixed I suppose [13:24] that's what i'm asking ;) [13:24] the master sez: fix0r away [13:25] ok [13:25] * shadeslayer clones [13:25] me? [13:25] :O [13:25] yes [13:25] git clone kde:apachelogger [13:25] :> [13:25] i happens [13:28] fixed [13:28] http://commits.kde.org/kamera/1e8c1ba3bcf5f40630f29410b84f6ab250c22f5a [13:31] apachelogger: now back to that CMake error [13:32] dude [13:32] it needs find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED) [13:36] of course it does [13:38] *sigh* http://paste.kde.org/5900 [13:38] Cannot find source file "mobipocket.cpp". Tried extensions .c .C .c++ .cc >.> [13:39] oh, mobipocket is still in svn.. [13:39] bwhahaha [13:41] time to fixor analyzer [13:42] ah [13:42] our import is old [13:50] ScottK: cannot say off-hand, other than my ibook needs b43 or something like that [13:53] yay new symbols [14:22] apachelogger: What version? [ u = 4:4.6.1 / d = 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~ / v = 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 / enter other ]: [14:25] heh [14:29] * Quintasan always has no idea which one [14:31] Quintasan: you mean package version? [14:31] or something else [14:31] shadeslayer: pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch BUILDLOG spews this out [14:31] I dunno which version I am supposed to pick [14:32] ah [14:32] i'd say go with 4.6.1 [14:32] Quintasan: hm? [14:32] I am not sure I follow [14:32] pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch BUILDLOG [14:32] What version? [ u = 4:4.6.1 / d = 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~ / v = 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 / enter other ]: [14:33] which one should I choose? [14:33] * Quintasan would go with 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa [14:33] Quintasan: upstream [14:33] as it is the base [14:34] if we were to add public API in one of our revisions it would have to carry that precise revision [14:34] so [...]~ also falls flat [14:34] just FTR [14:51] Tm_Tr: Thanks. [14:56] shadeslayer,apachelogger: uploading kdelibs [14:56] kewl! :D [14:57] apachelogger: http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Project:_Plasma-based_kmix_Volume_Applet <-- control remote media players would be an optional feature ? [14:58] well, gsoc is a good challenge :) [14:59] aye :D [14:59] * shadeslayer would like to participate this year too [15:00] bambee: how would you do remote control? [15:00] I meant, mpris2 media player [15:01] for example amarok proposes a dbus service which implements mpris2 specs :) [15:01] well, this project focuses on the kmix POV, however it is just an idea, in fact I would say it is best to build upon the idea and propose something much more epic ;) [15:02] ok ;) [15:03] so while media player control is not part of the idea that does not prevent you from including it in your proposal for gsoc ;) [15:07] weird === shadeslayer is now known as Guest59396 === Guest59396 is now known as shadeslayer_ === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose === hunger_ is now known as hunger [16:50] apachelogger: Colin Guthrie is on IRC ? [16:50] bambee: coling in #kde-devel [16:50] ok thanks [17:09] hello all [17:09] if anyone is around, I was asked to volunteer for a talk on QT for ubuntu development week [17:09] any pointers on things that would be of relevance to the general Ubuntu community? [17:10] It is the only kubuntu / qt talk in the whole week and we should try a bit [17:13] first things first, it's Qt not QT ;) [17:13] and pronuced cute :P [17:15] ScottK: I'll dig up some fresh facts when I have a chance [17:20] tsimpson: sorry [17:21] just don't do it in #qt and you'll be fine :) [17:21] well anyone willing to help, not really sure what would be interesting to highlight [17:22] anything that might get people into Qt a bit more? [17:23] probably QML, if you know anything about it [17:23] http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/qdeclarativeexamples.html [17:24] and how easy it is to write a "Hello World" dialog in Qt, is always a good one [17:24] there was a whole day of qt quick at qt dev days, I think their are videos online :) [17:26] or how it's easy to create a webbrowser in python in just 20 lines of codes :P [17:26] (using qtwebkit) [17:26] (no I was jocking ;) ) [17:28] Tm_T: Thanks. [17:31] bambee: or a media player in 7 using phonon :P [17:33] apachelogger: +1 [17:33] :) [18:03] amazing [18:03] thanks guys [18:50] debfx: How's the test build going? [18:52] I need kdetoys tarball for kde 4.6.1 packaging.. from where can i get it? [18:56] ScottK: don't ask, I forgot to start a screen session :/ [18:56] Ouch. [18:57] I need kdetoys tarball for kde 4.6.1 packaging.. from where can i get it? [18:57] though the build got to qtwebkit so I'm pretty sure the patch works [19:02] debfx: I'd say let's go ahead then. [19:02] aakshay: From ktown. [19:03] ScottK: what are the rules for giving someone ktown access? [19:03] I don't think there are any other than don't be dumb about it and make sure they know not to make the code public before release. [19:03] Riddell's the expert though. [19:05] aakshay: I'll give you a link over PM in a second [19:05] ScottK: m being novice ,, dont know much but is this not KDE 4.6.0? [19:05] by the way I'm starting to think that it would be better to introduce a build-dep cycle instead of building qtwebkit in qt4-x11 and qtwebkit-source [19:05] ScottK: and we need to do packaging for 4.6.1?...:) [19:05] aakshay: We do. [19:05] yofel: ok... :) [19:06] debfx: That can cause all kinds of problems. [19:06] aakshay: PM [19:07] ScottK: ok.. but is it same for 4.6.0 and 4.6.? [19:07] It? [19:07] yofel: PM? i dint get. [19:07] ScottK: code in 4.6.0 branch [19:08] ScottK: http://alien.slackbook.org/ktown/4.6.0/source/kde/...... there in this branch [19:08] aakshay: I did send you a /msg - so you should have a query open somewhere [19:08] That's the branch, but you need the tarball which yofel is trying to get to you. [19:09] ScottK: yes, but in the worst case we can just upload qt without qtwebkit support [19:09] debfx: IIRC that broke the help viewer or something like that, can't remember exactly [19:10] yofel: sry, i dint get this.. and where is teh query opened? [19:10] aakshay: what client do you use? [19:10] ScottK: ok.. thanks... [19:10] yofel: ubuntu maverick.. i hope this is what you are asking [19:11] no, *IRC* client [19:11] quassel? [19:11] yofel: "http://webchat.freenode.net/" [19:11] yofel: this one [19:11] uuuh... [19:11] yofel: yes, I'm only talking about disabling qtwebkit support temporarily [19:11] * yofel is quiet then - don't know enough about qtwebkit [19:12] aakshay: you should have a new tab open at the top with my name [19:13] yofel: yes.. " == kyofel [5de7a0d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.231.160.212] has joined #kubuntu-devel" [19:13] yofel: this one [19:13] no... [19:13] wait [19:13] yofel: sry.. then [19:13] yofel: ok [19:14] aakshay: it should look like that for you http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/webchat.png [19:15] yofel: ya got it [19:15] debfx: What do you think about including https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/707794 in the next upload? [19:15] Ubuntu bug 707794 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "libqt4-opengl on armel should be compiled with OpenGL ES 2.x support" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:15] slangasek is asking me about it. [19:16] * slangasek waves [19:20] ScottK, slangasek: so switch to egl would break all applications using direct opengl calls? [19:20] correct [19:21] debfx: OTOH, apachelogger can finally be happy he gets good performance on his n900. [19:21] mitigated by the fact that a) there are only a handful of these, b) they'll be unusably slow on almost all available arm hardware anyway due to the lack of accelerated opengl drivers [19:21] I think we need to switch, it's just a question of when. [19:22] (ogra says that opengl software drivers are good enough on his AC100, but he seems to be in a minority position on this question) [19:22] slangasek: n900 is a target for us this cycle and we need gles for that, so we definitely want it. The only question is now or after Alpha 3? [19:23] If it's just the impacts identified in the bug, then I think we ought to go ahead. [19:23] debfx: What do you think? === ximion1 is now known as ximion [19:25] In ~20 minutes I can retry the last of the unbuilt KDE packages on armel, so we should be done with that before this can affect us. [19:26] ScottK: can we easly disable opengl support for the affected applications? [19:26] Except avogadro, AFAIK, yes. [19:26] did you already build Qt with that on any other arch? since I'm getting EGL error in stellarium since a few days ago http://paste.kde.org/5949/ [19:26] Shouldn't. [19:27] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65166814/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-powerpc.python-qt4_4.8.3-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz is also vexing me. [19:28] I filed a bug on that, but apport is as slow as ever at retracing === ximion is now known as ximion1 [20:10] ScottK: before switch to GLES the patches for the kde packages should be ready [20:10] also do applications that have no direct opengl code still work (e.g. is the abi stable)? [21:18] debfx: timing-wise, requiring the GLES patches to be ready before uploading qt4-x11 with gles enabled on armel may mean we miss alpha 3 [21:18] I think if we want this for alpha3, it's more practical to take the qt4 patch asap and work on the reverse-deps in parallel [22:42]