[00:07] <Irwell> does anyone know how to set up different panels for each activity?
[00:10]  * james147 dosnt think it can be done... yet...
[00:11] <Irwell> it's probably the thing i'm waiting for most now so i can set up a proper media centre activity
[00:21] <qudo> lipse|hinagiku0 xdcc send #1000
[03:11] <jhoc2x2> anyone updated to the new *.*.35-25 kernel ??
[03:14] <jhoc2x2> bullgard: no errors sir? because in my laptop, I can't reach the GUI log in screen, it only gives me a shell
[03:14] <jhoc2x2> anyone updated to the new *.*.35-25 kernel ??
[03:19] <naryfa> greetings
[03:22] <jhoc2x2> anyone actually alive in here?
[03:25] <naryfa> me
[03:25] <naryfa> I'm alive
[03:25] <naryfa> lol
[03:26] <naryfa> I'm pushing kubuntu dvd on an usb stick currently
[03:27] <naryfa> and praying for it to fit
[03:27] <naryfa> lol
[03:27] <naryfa> !give
[03:28] <nata> naryfa, better install only can get its nice :)
[03:29] <naryfa> I just queried that information, cool thing.
[03:29] <naryfa> damn, wrong channel sorry lol,
[03:29] <naryfa> nata: I will
[03:30] <naryfa> nata: once it finishes
[03:32] <naryfa> nata: do you have a fresh install?
[03:32] <naryfa> nata: I'm just curious how it's going to behave, I got tired of arch linux
[03:32] <nata> naryfa: I'm install kubuntu for fews years already
[03:32] <naryfa> nata: oh, that's good
[03:32] <nata> ubuntu more easy
[03:32] <naryfa> nata: you're advanced then
[03:33] <nata> not advance la. cant remember that kind of console text
[03:33] <naryfa> nata: I like difficult stuff, stimulates my brain, but sometimes it's just too much, so I'm going back to ubuntu for now
[03:35] <nata> naryfa: better just play only debian series os or rpm series. if not many kind of console text you must learn
[03:36] <nata> naryfa: for rpm type, can try opensuse
[03:37] <naryfa> yeah no, I'll stick to debian-based ones
[03:37] <naryfa> or so
[03:37] <naryfa> and I agree, you know too many you get confused
[03:39] <naryfa> nata: I only know ubuntu for 1 year, not even, 9 months. In those nine months I learned a lot, and tried many different distributions.
[03:39] <naryfa> I even tried fluxbox on linux arch.
[03:40] <naryfa> It's too much for such a user like me.
[03:40] <naryfa> If it was physics or astronomy I'd dig more
[03:40] <castellino> you are talking of which vresion
[03:40] <castellino> i mean about
[03:41] <nata> naryfa: no need 1 year, sometime clever people like you 1 month already expert.hehe
[03:42] <castellino> woh had you tried the version 10.14
[03:42] <nata> naryfa: accually linux just diffence in 2 main version i found, rpm and debian. another just using difference desktop enviroment
[03:43] <nata> castellino: got 10.14 in ubuntu?
[03:44] <castellino> no but the 10.10 and the update of 10.14
[03:44] <nata> castellino: i think is 11.04
[03:45] <castellino> i not sure 11
[03:45] <castellino> but 10
[03:45] <nata> ubuntu will release updated os in april or oct
[03:46] <castellino> whoa they are powerfull
[03:46] <nata> so is 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10 and so on
[03:46] <naryfa> there's 10.04.2
[03:46] <naryfa> if I'm right
[03:47] <castellino>  yes you are
[03:47] <nata> hehe you all...
[03:47] <castellino> i have problem with my vpn
[03:48] <castellino> i download openvpn but it's not working
[03:48] <naryfa> Never done vpn, don't even know what it's for lol, but I had my share of adventures with networking
[03:49] <nata> i also try before for free vpn, can use in ubuntu, but kubuntu cannot.
[03:50] <castellino> i wanted to make my mobile phone be my modem there is not another method
[03:51] <naryfa> http://www.joemonster.org/filmy/33141/Powrot_Jedi
[03:51] <nata> i din try before. ..
[03:51] <naryfa> have fun
[03:51] <castellino> (excuse me for my english i am francophone)
[03:51] <nata> hehe
[03:52] <castellino> but i will succeed
[03:52] <naryfa> castellino: what does that mean?
[03:52] <naryfa> castellino: I wish you that
[03:53] <castellino> i also have difficulty to get a c compiler for kubuntu
[03:54] <castellino> do you people like to hack?
[03:55] <naryfa> You have to know the language to do that, no?
[03:56] <castellino> which language
[03:56] <naryfa> c
[03:56] <castellino> ah ok i have some tutorials
[03:57] <naryfa> I only know a little CSH and BASH
[03:57] <naryfa> that's it for now
[03:58] <naryfa> and I'm pretty new to it
[03:58] <castellino> i started to read them but i noticed that without compiler i will not go far
[03:58] <castellino> can you teach me some
[04:00] <naryfa> castellino: you should get a book, off the torrents, a pdf
[04:00] <naryfa> and read some stuff
[04:02] <castellino> stuff like
[04:03] <castellino> do you know "learn c in 21 days"
[04:03] <naryfa> castellino: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[04:03] <naryfa> castellino: if you want C, look on torrents
[04:03] <naryfa> castellino: it doesn't matter which book you choose
[04:06] <castellino> i am lacking word to express you my gratitude
[04:06] <naryfa> nata: you're still here?
[04:06] <nata> naryfa: ya
[04:06] <castellino> yes i am
[04:06] <naryfa> castellino: no problem, you'll thank yourself once you learn
[04:07] <castellino> ok
[04:08] <nata> i cant 24hr look in the irc :)
[04:08] <naryfa> nata: true
[04:09] <naryfa> ok 99% and usb stopped, don't scare me now
[04:11] <nata> hope you no prob.
[04:12] <naryfa> I'm creating usb stick in windows through unetbootin, it's stuck on wubi. I'd stop it but it still needs to install a bootloader so I have to wait.
[04:13] <castellino> hey i am just starting with programming i want to know how long it will take me to learn c?
[04:13] <naryfa> as long as you devote yourself to it
[04:14] <naryfa> do it every day and you'll have enough knowledge to program in few weeks
[04:14] <naryfa> But remember that no language is perfect.
[04:14] <Daskreech> castellino: I'm just learning how to cook how long will take me to learn to Fricasse ?
[04:14] <naryfa> So you don't need to know everything
[04:15] <naryfa> damn unetbootin doesn't want to finish
[04:15] <castellino> naryfa :do you have a dell laptop ? because you can succeed in what you were  asking for by downloading a drivers which does it
[04:16] <nata> naryfa: if you wan install in wubi why not using vertual drive to detect ubuntu-iso then can direct install
[04:17] <naryfa> no no, I only wanted unetbootin to create the usb installation disk, I'm tired of copying files between two computers. Thought it would finish faster. Guess I'll have to put it off
[04:19] <nata> oh
[04:19] <castellino> oh oh oh
[04:19] <naryfa> but thank you for intentions :)
[04:19] <naryfa> it counts
[04:19] <castellino> do you know cameroon?
[04:20] <naryfa> no
[04:20] <castellino> a country in africa
[04:20] <nata> we cant see you situation in time so sometime cant give a suggestion. cause imagine this kind of things you know la..
[04:20] <naryfa> oh yeah
[04:20] <nata> i know, y?
[04:21] <castellino> i am cameroonian
[04:21] <naryfa> ok guys, time for me, I'll "see" you next time
[04:21] <naryfa> !goodnight
[04:23] <nata> i'm malaysia chinese :)
[04:23] <castellino> oh oh
[04:24] <castellino> iam amazing
[04:24] <nata> in afica os more domain in windows or linux?
[04:25] <castellino> windows
[04:26] <castellino> my class mates are taking like a foul because i am using ubuntu
[04:26] <castellino> there never heard about it
[04:27] <nata> hehe, u r expert d
[04:27] <castellino> nooooo
[04:27] <castellino> i am a pionner
[04:27] <nata> hehe. damn..
[04:27] <castellino> i mean pioneer
[04:28] <nata> me here all using windows. seem like only me know ubuntu
[04:29] <castellino> nata: do you know how i can use my motorola as modem to ,browse with ubuntu freely
[04:32] <nata> castellino: dont know, din try it before. but here my friend say before they use phone as modem, then using wifi or bluetooth thing to connect them if i not wrong
[04:33] <selecsosi> This is an entertaining topic based primarily on the fact that ubuntu is an african word
[04:34] <castellino> it'snt true
[04:34] <castellino> selecsosi
[04:35] <selecsosi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[04:35] <nata> selecsosi: ubuntu is based on afican word but all of them using windows...haha. only 1guy know ubuntu in there. castellino isit? hehe
[04:36] <castellino> not one in africa but one in a big town in cameroon
[04:37] <castellino> we are lacking information here and i have the chance that the internet is working today
[04:37] <nata> you r lucky
[04:38] <selecsosi> Where are you located?
[04:38] <george__> how can i format USB sticks on Kubuntu? cause in Ubuntu i use Disk Utility, is there a KDE alternative to that???
[04:38] <nata> selecsosi: whos?
[04:38] <selecsosi> castellino
[04:38] <jhoc2x2> !usb
[04:38] <nata> selecsosi: he is cameron guy
[04:39] <selecsosi> nata: ahhh, ic thanks
[04:39] <castellino> selecsosi : i am cameroonian in bamenda town
[04:39] <nata> i can see you. just limited to google.hehe
[04:42] <nata> very nice, can know you so far away
[04:43] <selecsosi> castellino: What are your feeling on the libyan protests and government reponse?
[04:43] <castellino> i scare
[04:44] <castellino> the same can happen or risk to in my coun try too
[04:45] <selecsosi> For me, seeing this in america, I feel helpless. There is nothing I want more than to be able to assist in the fight for independence and liberty. Seeing the government response fueled with american weapons angers and makes me very sad
[04:45] <nata> i think keep our life safety more important
[04:46] <nata> selecsosi: where you form?
[04:46] <selecsosi> nata: Indiana, USA
[04:47] <nata> oh ic
[04:47] <castellino> nata : you are rigth and my country is the most peacefull in africa (30 years of peace is a record)
[04:48] <nata> castellino: you help me know more. but you are lucky!
[04:48] <castellino> god bless you
[04:49] <nata> selecsosi: you are american or move to there?
[04:49] <selecsosi> Born and raised =p
[04:50] <nata> you should very freedom
[04:50] <castellino> the only problem in my contry is unemployment, i will like to be in america
[04:51] <selecsosi> Lots of freedom but lots of debt. I have very bad feelings about what our finances will be like in 5-10 years. America is a great place but it is very bloated.
[04:51] <selecsosi> Many people have very poor work ethics and expect to be handed things.
[04:51] <selecsosi> That can only work for so long
[04:52] <castellino> i have two cousin in seattle
[04:52] <selecsosi> I like seattle a lot
[04:53] <castellino> ah ah ah  no one knows how to hack a gsm modem with ubuntu
[04:54] <castellino> or kubuntu
[04:54] <nata> i don know
[04:54] <castellino> selecsosi ??????????
[04:55] <selecsosi> I don't know much about corporate network protocols
[04:55] <castellino> what is that?
[04:55] <selecsosi> I understand how gsm's work, but I dont know how to get access to an external network
[04:55] <selecsosi> GSM's work by hopping onto an existing wireless signal
[04:56] <selecsosi> I can configure them, but I don't know how to get them authenticated onto network they are not designed to work with
[04:57] <nata> castellino: how you get access internet today?
[04:58] <castellino> with "orange" gsm modem
[04:58] <castellino> orange is a telecom agency in my country
[04:59] <nata> then why still need hacking gsm?
[05:00] <castellino> we pay the month 10 000 f FCA=22,22 dollar
[05:00] <castellino> for a scholar like me it's very expensive
[05:01] <castellino> for my classmates i am rich
[05:01] <nata> ho..
[05:02] <nata> like me here, arround 22 dollor can get 512k only. very slow, that is what i using now
[05:03] <nata> 4M arround usd45 like that i think
[05:04] <castellino> i am in a catholic university (school of engineering) and the school fees is not cheap too. my connection is 100 k
[05:07] <castellino> rgreening: your connection is free? because the proxy of your server is an anonymous one
[05:08] <nata> i wanna go eatting already. bye
[05:09] <castellino> ok enjoy your meal
[05:14] <castellino> how can i uninstall wine programs in kubuntu? the method that i used didn't work
[06:46] <Rask> Hey guys, me again.  On a totally new system this time.
[06:46] <Rask> Anyone want to help with some first-timer woes/
[06:46] <Rask> *?
[06:47] <Rask> My system is only booting about half the time and I can't for the life of me figure out why.
[06:48] <Rask> How can I make it boot with a nice console screen instead of the information-free splash screen?
[06:48] <maco> Rask: turn off the "quiet splash" stuff in grub
[06:48] <maco> lemme find the file
[06:48] <maco> i assume you mean permanently?
[06:48] <Rask> I'd like to, but I dont even -see- GRUB.
[06:48] <maco> if you hold shift during boothe grub menu comes up and you can edit it for just that boot
[06:48] <maco> otherwise...
[06:49] <Rask> Oh, ok, let me try holding shift
[06:49] <maco> Rask: edit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" in /etc/default/grub
[06:49] <maco> then run "sudo update-grub"
[06:49] <maco> (if you want it to be a semi-permanent change)
[06:50] <Rask> Okay, I see grub and I'm in the little editor
[06:50] <Rask> Should I just backspace over the "quiet splash" part?
[06:50] <maco> yup
[06:51] <Rask> Okay, we got through it this time.
[06:51] <Rask> Ok, so to make this permanent...
[06:52] <Rask> What should I change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to?
[06:54] <Rask> Just blank?
[06:57] <Rask> Okay, trying blank.
[07:01] <Rask> Yay, it works X)
[07:01] <Rask> I has some video woes, though.  System does -not- like having two monitors plugged in.
[07:01] <Rask> And the main monitor is not being supported at its proper resolution.
[07:03] <Rask> Is that because nouveau doesn't know how?
[07:11] <Rask> ...Anyone still here? :(
[07:12] <Rask> ....kpackagekit just segfaulted?  the fuck?
[07:13] <lostson> so use the command line
[07:13] <Rask> what? o_o
[07:13] <Rask> use it for what/
[07:14] <lostson> well kpackagekit is just a front end for apt
[07:14] <lostson> and apt you can conveniently use from the command line
[07:14] <Rask> I know, but... I wasn't doing anything with it and it segfaulted.
[07:14] <Rask> Is that anywhere near normal?
[07:14] <lostson> i wouldnt think so
[07:15] <Rask> *sigh*  Okay, we'll not question that.  X.x
[07:18] <Rask> Anyway
[07:18] <Rask> The main oddness I'm trying to deal with here is that something seems to be awry with my video
[07:18] <Rask> I plug in two monitors and one remains in sleep mode while the other's not being recognized
[07:19] <Rask> er
[07:19] <dark_> 有人吗
[07:19] <Rask> I mean to say, I can't set it above 1280x1024
[07:20] <dark_> chinese room??
[07:20] <Rask> It seems very strange to me that nouveau would be unable to support either of these things, but... how do I know what video driver I'm using anyway?
[07:20] <Rask> And how do I get the binary nvidia driver in?
[07:21] <lostson> run the additional drives module
[07:21] <lostson> that will install the latest nvidia drivers for you then setup yoru twin monitors
[07:28] <Rask> lostson: What's the additional drives module?
[07:31] <lostson> should be in the system section of the menu
[07:32] <lostson> do you not get a notification that additional drivers are available ?
[07:32] <Rask> lostson: Nope.
[07:32] <owner> ubuntu
[07:32] <owner> :)
[07:32] <Rask> lostson: Is it in a different place in kubuntu versus ubuntu?
[07:33] <lostson> must be
[07:34] <Rask> ...Am I shooting myself in the foot by using Kubuntu?  :/  It's really frustrating trying to find support for it.
[07:35] <lostson> no i dont think so
[07:35] <Rask> Well, anyway..  for lack of any better ideas, I installed the nvidia-current package.  Does that select it or do I have to do something else to make X use it?
[07:36] <lostson> that should install and set it up you will have to reboot to get it to work
[07:36] <Rask> Okay, here we gooooo.
[07:36] <lostson> ok
[07:37] <Rask> hrf.  No difference...
[07:38] <Rask> One monitor out of two, wrong resolutions.
[07:38] <Rask> how can I find out whether the device is using the driver?
[07:38] <lostson> well to get both monitors to work you would have to either edit your xorg.conf or use the nvidia-settings tool
[07:38] <Rask> nvidia-xconfig?
[07:39] <lostson> hit alt+F2 and type in nvidia-settings and hit enter
[07:39] <Rask> "The control display is undefined; please run `nvidia-settings --help' for usage information.
[07:40] <lostson> that should bring up a little app that you can setup your nvidia card they way you wantn it
[07:42] <Rask> lostson: It's not bringing anything up except that message about the control display being undefined.
[07:43] <lostson> something isnt right then either nvidia didnt install right or something else is jacked up
[07:44] <lostson> cuz when you hit alt+F2 at the top of the screen you should get a run dialog and if you type in nvidia-settings it should bring that app up if it isnt something is wrong somewhere
[07:44] <Philo> Trying to access an audio file on this website - http://government.georgetown.edu/tocquevilleforum/90291.html   - I can't seem to find a program that can open it. Any ideas?
[07:44] <lostson> so either nvidia isnt installed or something else is configured wrong
[07:44] <Philo> Well, here's the link - https://mediapilot.georgetown.edu/sharestream2gui/getMedia.do?action=streamMedia&mediaPath=0d2117cd2650ee6d0126d8cac6c4064f&cid=0d21b6201df9d7e6011e20cfb5eb0052&userFrom
[07:45] <Rask> Urgh.  Okay, I just rebooted and X didn't start.  :(
[07:46] <Philo> Anyone have any ideas?
[07:48] <Rask> Philo: Tried VLC?
[07:48] <Philo> Would it be able to do a streamed file?
[07:48] <Philo> Or network stream*
[07:49] <Rask> Sure.
[07:50] <Philo> Giving it a download, hopefully it works.
[07:50] <Philo> It says it's a .do  - whatever that is.
[07:51] <Rask> It's likely a redirect.
[07:51] <Philo> Ah
[07:52] <Philo> Nope, no-go on that route as well.
[07:53] <Rask> Sorry, that was my only idea. D:
[07:53] <Philo> They should really just put those things in .mp3s..
[07:55] <Philo> VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[09:56] <HmpfCBR> Does anybody know in which version KDE changed the systemsetting menu to a single view? Before it was two tabs basic/advanced.
[10:03] <|MA|> Hi
[10:03] <|MA|> can somebody help in setting up udev rules for DVB, I followed http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/dvb/udev.txt, but did not work. Can someone help, please ?
[10:03] <FloodBotK1> |MA|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:04] <|MA|> FloodBotK1: what paste ?
[10:09] <HmpfCBR> to answer my own question in 4.5
[11:00] <tdignan> How do I remove the glow around windows in KWin?
[11:00] <tdignan> or at least adjust it
[11:01] <shadeslayer> tdignan: it's configurable in System Settings
[11:01] <tdignan> shadeslayer: yeah, I'm there already under desktop effects, I looked through all of them
[11:02] <shadeslayer> Workspace Appearance
[11:02] <tdignan> Oh, it's not under desktop effects
[11:02] <shadeslayer> and then Configure Decorations
[11:03] <tdignan> shadeslayer: ah, thanks
[11:03] <tdignan> I had no idea it would be over there
[11:03] <shadeslayer> ;)
[12:56] <Koots> hello
[12:56] <Koots> what are the security programs for kubuntu
[12:56] <Koots> like antiviruses in windows
[13:05] <james147> !av | Koots
[13:05] <james147> !firewall | Koots
[13:06] <iflema> Koots: a strong password...
[13:06] <james147> ^^ and common sense :)
[13:07]  * iflema and manuals =)
[13:07] <Koots> hi
[13:07] <Koots> whats up
[13:08] <iflema> >>
[13:08] <iflema> <<
[13:45] <briandw1969> hi
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:46] <briandw1969> i have a tech question
[13:46] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please any one knows how to change the Grub Splash Image on startup? (I am using Kubuntu 10.10)
[13:47] <briandw1969> is there a tech room?
[13:47] <shadeslayer> briandw1969: fire away
[13:47] <shadeslayer> this is it
[13:48] <briandw1969> k
[13:48] <briandw1969> just installed Kubunu 10.10....
[13:48] <BluesKaj> TornadoXubuntu, http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-add-a-splash-image-to-grub-2-on-ubuntu-9.04 , this should work for 10.10 as well since it's still grub2
[13:48] <briandw1969> in all my password fields i can only enter 8 chars
[13:49] <briandw1969> even in firefox
[13:49] <briandw1969> needless to say my passwords are longer than 8 chars
[13:49] <Tm_T> briandw1969: you mean it shows only 8 characters?
[13:49] <TornadoXubuntu> thanks BluesKaj
[13:50] <briandw1969> i type more than 8 and cursor goes to beginning of the field
[13:50] <briandw1969> and cant get into those programs/sites
[13:51] <Tm_T> that sounds... weird
[13:53] <briandw1969> it does it in all my PW fields
[13:55] <briandw1969> so i dont know if there is a patch or a default i have to adjust
[13:57] <briandw1969> even rekonq has this problem
[13:57] <shadeslayer> huh ... that is *weird*
[13:58] <briandw1969> any ideas?ive tried forums and such
[13:58] <shadeslayer> briandw1969: what happens if you try to move the cursor to the 8th char and start typing?
[13:59] <briandw1969> it rolls back to the first char
[13:59] <briandw1969> and in firefox the field is 'long enoughr'
[13:59] <TornadoXubuntu> Hello! Please i have installed the KDE desktop on my Xubuntu 10.10 installation. I am just wondering if there is a way to change the (Xubuntu Logo) at startup from (Xubuntu) to the default (Kubuntu). The Logo that appears at the very start of booting. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
[13:59] <shadeslayer> ah
[14:00] <shadeslayer> TornadoXubuntu: install the kubuntu bootsplash
[14:00] <shadeslayer> !info plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo | TornadoXubuntu
[14:00] <TornadoXubuntu> Please could you inform me how to install that shadeslayer?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> you probably have to remove the xubuntu one after installing that
[14:01] <BluesKaj> TornadoXubuntu, don't get too hung up on appearances at boot , they're a lot of work to change sometimes and seldom worth all the effort
[14:01] <shadeslayer> TornadoXubuntu: via Kpackagekit ... or : sudo apt-get install plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
[14:02] <BluesKaj> heh, din't know that option even existed , shadeslayer ...show s haow much attn I pay to the boot up :)
[14:02] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:02] <shadeslayer> even i have the splash disabled
[14:02] <shadeslayer> i like my dmesg errors :D
[14:03] <shadeslayer> s/errors/logs
[14:04] <briandw1969> just tried in FF again and same result
[14:04] <BluesKaj> the faster and less complicated the bootup the better I like it
[14:04] <shadeslayer> aye
[14:04] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, have you updated lately?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> briandw1969: i have no idea what's causing the issue
[14:05] <briandw1969> fresh install and it upated 232 files
[14:05] <BluesKaj> or upgraded kde ?
[14:05] <briandw1969> i just d/l ed it yesterday
[14:06] <shadeslayer> not sure, but KDE 4.6 might help resolve the issue, so that's worth a shot
[14:06] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, ok , what about kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> I hve to ask
[14:06] <briandw1969> k,new to this,so where is that?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ok  briandw1969 , open a terminal , type or caopy and paste this : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:08] <BluesKaj> err copy
[14:08] <briandw1969> u mean panel?
[14:09] <briandw1969> or cmd prompt?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> briandw1969,panel , kmenu/applications/system/terminal
[14:10] <BluesKaj> yes command prompt in the terminal
[14:11] <briandw1969> [sudo] password for briandw1969:
[14:11] <briandw1969> is what it returned
[14:12] <BluesKaj> did you write a password into the dialog when asked to during the install , use that
[14:12] <briandw1969> it wont let me,and yes set a pw
[14:13] <BluesKaj> when asked for a pw use that one
[14:13] <briandw1969> trying there is just a fat cursor ther,wont let me input
[14:13] <shadeslayer> briandw1969: you can input
[14:13] <shadeslayer> it just doesn't show up
[14:14] <shadeslayer> it's a security feature so that other's cannot see the length of your pass
[14:14] <BluesKaj> no the pw doesn't show for security reasons
[14:14] <shadeslayer> also helpful when sending screenshots etc
[14:14] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: that's what i said :)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> yeah, shadeslayer I was typing
[14:14] <briandw1969> nice,its going now
[14:15] <briandw1969> k,how i get thru the EULA
[14:17] <BluesKaj> just agree by using the tab key to manuever
[14:17] <briandw1969> says configuring tff
[14:18] <BluesKaj> yes it will run and install java and other libraries
[14:18] <briandw1969> hit the key to quick,lol i declined some kinda font
[14:19] <BluesKaj> also after that is finished , sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:19] <briandw1969> will it say it is finished?
[14:19] <briandw1969> Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
[14:19] <briandw1969> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[14:19] <briandw1969> briandw1969@briandw1969-Satellite-L505D:~$
[14:20] <briandw1969> is where it is at right now
[14:20] <BluesKaj> it will go back to the prompt when done
[14:20] <briandw1969> the prompt is there
[14:21] <BluesKaj> ok, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:21] <angelo> hi
[14:21] <briandw1969> already newest
[14:22] <briandw1969> prob still there
[14:22] <briandw1969> :+(
[14:22] <briandw1969> how do i check version of KDE?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> after that is done , run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:23] <briandw1969> done
[14:24] <briandw1969> didnt resolve
[14:24] <shadeslayer> briandw1969: kde4-config --kde-version
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ok , this prbly already installed , but, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[14:25] <briandw1969> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:25] <briandw1969> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[14:25] <briandw1969> is only available from another source
[14:26] <BluesKaj> ok, medibuntu
[14:26] <briandw1969> in the terminal SS?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> it's not necessary yet , next thing is to make sure you have the proper graphics driver installed
[14:27] <BluesKaj> what's your graphics card?
[14:28] <briandw1969> onboard,laptop
[14:28] <briandw1969> dont know off top of my head
[14:28] <BluesKaj> then look in the kmenu/apps/system/additional drivers
[14:30] <shadeslayer> briandw1969: right :)
[14:34] <briandw1969> how do u do the orange msg line?
[14:34] <james147> briandw1969: most irc clients highlight your username when someone else says it
[14:35] <briandw1969> so is it in Quassel?
[14:35] <james147> (and most allow you to tab complete usernames)
[14:35] <james147> yes
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[14:36] <briandw1969> damn
[14:36] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, did you find the hardware drivers in system
[14:36] <briandw1969> it updated an available driver
[14:36] <briandw1969> have to reboot tho
[14:36] <briandw1969> brb
[14:37]  * BluesKaj thinks the driver update should have been the first thing to check :)
[14:39] <briandw1969> back
[14:40] <briandw1969> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[14:40] <briandw1969> 84XAAATIB: ?
[14:42] <briandw1969> hello?
[14:43] <briandw1969> ShadeSlayer?
[14:43] <shadeslayer> oh .. yes?
[14:43] <shadeslayer> briandw1969: look at the topic
[14:43] <shadeslayer> using /topic
[14:44] <briandw1969> i have been to some of those
[14:46] <shadeslayer> right .. so they have instructions on how to upgrade
[14:46] <shadeslayer> KDE 4.6 has *some* bugs, but overall a big improvement over 4.5.1
[14:47] <briandw1969> what is kubuntu backports?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> briandw1969, for upgrading to kde4.6 : sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa , then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:54] <briandw1969> still 4.5.1
[15:00] <shadeslayer> briandw1969: logout and login again :)
[15:01] <briandw1969> logout or reboot?
[15:07] <briandw1969> wb SS
[15:11] <briandw1969> wb shade
[15:12] <briandw1969> shadslayer wb
[15:12] <briandw1969> shadeslayer even
[15:13] <shadeslayer_> hey :)
[15:13] <shadeslayer_> briandw1969: any progress?
[15:13] <briandw1969> i found some more patches,they installing now
[15:14] <briandw1969> how do i 'call aname'?
[15:14] <shadeslayer_> patches?
[15:15] <briandw1969> upgrades
[15:15] <shadeslayer_> ok :)
[15:15] <rtdos> 2 questions: how do I install LAMP from the command line and how do setup my installation to allow me to play / view DVD's ?
[15:15] <shadeslayer_> rtdos: there's a meta package for lamp
[15:16] <shadeslayer_> !lamp
[15:16] <rtdos> shadeslayer_ what does it mean different in edgy++ ?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | rtdos
[15:17] <shadeslayer_> rtdos: all releases above Edgy
[15:17] <shadeslayer_> and that ^^
[15:17] <rtdos> thanks shadeslayer
[15:17] <rtdos> thx blueskaj
[15:17] <shadeslayer_> more specifically you need vlc and/or libdvdcss
[15:18] <BluesKaj> rtdos, after installing the medibuntu repos , just make sure you have libdvdcss2 installed , then you can play drm protected dvds etc
[15:18] <rtdos> that's what i thought, shadeslayer_ but i can't find the ubuntu website page that references it.
[15:18] <shadeslayer_> rtdos: install libdvdcss2
[15:18] <rtdos> libdvdcss2  - ok got it. gonna go try it now.
[15:18] <rtdos> thanks guys.
[15:19] <briandw1969> ok im not sure what fixed,but its fixed
[15:19] <BluesKaj> bbl
[15:20] <briandw1969> Thanx Guys
[15:20] <mallik> hi
[15:20] <briandw1969> blueskaj!
[15:21] <briandw1969> ill get it one these days lol
[15:21] <mallik> I like Kubuntu. But, I want to keep only PIM software and get rid of anything else. How can I do that?
[15:23] <mallik> none responded.
[15:23] <shadeslayer_> mallik: are you on gnome?
[15:24] <shadeslayer_> mallik: just install kdepim packages ...
[15:24] <shadeslayer_> but i'm pretty sure they will pull in KDE Libraries and friends which are required for it to work
[15:24] <mallik> I have both. Gnome on my hard disk, Kubunut on my vbox. But I am interested kubuntu only for PIM and social networking. All other desktop apps, i dont need.
[15:25] <shadeslayer_> yeah just install the PIM Packages
[15:25] <mallik> its like a scaled down to PIM version kubuntu, so that I keep my PIM safe somewhere else than my regular desktop. Hope you understand what I mean.
[15:25] <shadeslayer_> kdepim should do it
[15:26] <shadeslayer_> mallik: you can run kdepim in gnome, if that's what you're talking about
[15:26] <mallik> I already have kdepim, my point is, i want to have only kdepim on my kubuntu desktop, nothing esle.
[15:26] <shadeslayer_> oh
[15:26] <shadeslayer_> that's not possible
[15:27] <mallik> hmmm :(
[15:27] <shadeslayer_> you could remove a few packages, but you need most of them for a GUI env
[15:27] <shadeslayer_> for eg. you could remove rekonq
[15:27] <mallik> yes, I got your point.
[15:28]  * james147 suggests: 1) install kdepim on ubuntu and use it directly without a vm, 2) remove any package you dont need from the kubuntu vm (not as easy as it sounds) 3) get a distro you can build from the ground up and only install what you wnat (like arch)
[15:29] <mallik> i found that kdepim and dependencies come around 150mb, in that case whats the size of UI out of 700mb? cant i strip off few mbs?
[15:29] <mallik> guess i like the 3 rd one.
[15:29] <james147> ^^ and 4) dont worry about saving a mb of space in a vm ^^
[15:29] <mallik> actually I was looking at tinycore
[15:30] <mallik> well its not only mb, but any services eating up into my cpu/memory.
[15:31] <james147> mallik: if you are running a vm just to use kdepim, that why are you worring about space? you already duplicating the coreutils and everything else.... i hiighly suggest you dont use a vm if you want to save space... kdepim can be installed on gnome and used nativly in ubuntu
[15:31] <james147> ^^ space and resources
[15:32] <mallik> thanks for your responses.
[15:33] <james147> ^^ hell, installing kubuntu-desktop inside ubuntu will take up less pace and resources then useing a vm... and then you can chose a full kde or gnome enviroment and use all the applicaitons in both
[15:35] <mallik> James, I take your point, actually I have installed it the way you suggest in your latest. For me, my PIM, my journals, events, calendars should be able to be isolated from regular stuff. thats why I just thought if I can scale down.
[15:36] <mallik> well it seems to be a difficult job.
[15:36] <mallik> I  might think to put kdepim on tinycore and see how it goes.
[15:37] <james147> mallik: why do they need to be  isolated?
[15:38] <mallik> how to address here privately, am pretty new to irc chat.
[15:39] <james147> mallik: /msg nick
[15:39] <james147> mallik: /msg nick <message>
[15:39] <mallik> ok
[17:02] <tta> hello
[17:05] <tta> i want to burn ubuntu 10.10 with nero on windows; how can i make it bootable
[17:07] <BluesKaj> tta, if you download the kubuntu live cd file in windows and burn it to cd it's bootable
[17:08] <BluesKaj> tta, , just make sure your cdrom is first in the boot sequence , you can set that in the BIOS
[17:11] <BluesKaj> !live-cd | tta
[17:11] <BluesKaj> dumb bot
[17:11] <BluesKaj> !live
[17:11] <tta> thanks
[17:20] <tta> i am trying to activate my pidgin messenger and it's ont going
[17:25] <BluesKaj> !pidgin
[17:26] <tta> how do you people do to send a link in a message?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> tta, post the url here in the text
[17:28] <BluesKaj> ubottu is a botscript activated by keywords beginning with the !
[17:30] <tta> please blueskaj for that bootable cd, i download the file into an iso extension and i did what you asked to do but it's not going
[17:31] <tta> ubottu: everyone who can understand computer science is intelligent
[17:31] <BluesKaj> you don't need an iso xtn , just burn the file to the cd as is , it already a bootable iso
[17:33] <BluesKaj> tta, where did you download the live cd file from ?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> I have to go out ...bye for now
[17:34] <mhamour> ghello!
[17:34] <tta> from http://ubuntu.com/netbook/
[17:34] <tta> hi mhamour
[17:35] <tta> i have a big problem
[17:36] <tta> how can i convert pi into binary using floating point format
[17:46] <tta> people are still there
[17:50] <panacea> помоги добрый человек
[17:51] <panacea> звука нет(
[17:51] <FloodBotK1> panacea: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <V3NOM> hi guys
[17:54] <V3NOM> i am an italian ubuntu user
[17:54] <V3NOM> can i ask something about kubuntu?
[17:55] <tta> v3nom: welcome
[17:55] <tta> feel free
[17:55] <V3NOM> thanks
[17:56] <V3NOM> is there in kubuntu something like Synaptic in ubuntu?
[17:56] <DarthFrog> kpackagekit
[17:56] <Thinkerer68> apt-get
[17:57] <V3NOM> thanks
[17:57] <Thinkerer68> You could also install Synaptic, if that is what your prefer
[17:57] <V3NOM> Is synaptic for gnome?
[17:57] <nata> ya
[17:58] <Thinkerer68> Sure, but many people use Synaptic in KDE anyway.
[17:58] <nata> synaptic more better
[17:58] <V3NOM> really?
[17:58] <nata> kpackagekit stil need further improve
[17:59] <DarthFrog> !synaptic
[17:59] <tta> nata: hi is castellino i changed my nickname
[17:59] <V3NOM> i will try
[17:59] <james147> !info muon
[17:59] <nata> tta: haha, cant detect you just now
[18:00] <tta> i were sleeping
[18:00] <Thinkerer68> V3NOM: There is also Muon <http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112698.0>
[18:00] <tta> i mean was
[18:00] <nata> muon seen like not easy to use
[18:00]  * Thinkerer68 prefers Aptitude
[18:01] <V3NOM> thanks you a lot
[18:01] <Thinkerer68> :)
[18:01] <nata> V3NOM, you using gnome 3 or unity in ubuntu?
[18:02] <DarthFrog> muon looks like a KDE version of Synaptic.
[18:02] <tta> v3nom:  try blender
[18:02] <V3NOM> I use gnome 2.30
[18:02] <V3NOM> i am on ubuntu 10.04
[18:02] <nata> oh
[18:02] <tta> whoooa
[18:02] <V3NOM> ?
[18:02] <nata> gnome 3 seem like good
[18:03] <V3NOM> i don't think natty will have gnome
[18:03] <tta> i have problem with burning my 10.10
[18:03] <nata> kde 4.6 just change abit
[18:03] <tta> nata: con you help my
[18:04] <tta> i mean "me"
[18:04] <nata> tta: what your problem?
[18:04] <V3NOM> i am learning kde interface so i can have a way out if i don't like unity
[18:05] <V3NOM> but a lot of think are different
[18:05] <nata> kde very easy to use
[18:05] <V3NOM> things sorry
[18:05] <V3NOM> sorry if my english is bad
[18:06] <nata> start menu in kde need further improved
[18:06] <tta> i downloaded the 10.10 into iso extension and when i burned it in nero it was not bootable
[18:06] <nata> tta: you need to set your bios to enable cd rom run 1st only can detect your disk
[18:07] <tta> i did it
[18:07] <nata> tta: all iso-ubuntu when burn in cd is bootable
[18:07] <V3NOM> firefox works well on kubuntu?
[18:08] <antuan> yes
[18:08] <tta> but it is a little bit slow
[18:08] <james147> ^^ at least as well as it does on any other os
[18:09] <nata> tta: when you using nero burning must pick "iso burning to disk"
[18:09] <tta> which version do you have v3nom
[18:09] <V3NOM> firefox?
[18:10] <tta> yes
[18:10] <V3NOM> 3.6.13
[18:10] <nata> tta: when start your computer can detect your ubuntu cd? or just direct pass through it
[18:11] <V3NOM> i use only stable release of software
[18:11] <tta> v3nom:look for 3.4 beta and update it in kubuntu
[18:11] <V3NOM> 3.4?
[18:11] <V3NOM> 4?
[18:12] <tta> yes
[18:12] <V3NOM> ah
[18:12] <tta> nata: the os pass through it
[18:13] <nata> in kubuntu need install firefox-kde-support to solve some small problem
[18:13] <tta> v3nom :you see
[18:13] <V3NOM> i see in kubuntu 10.10 there is a voice in the menu' install firefox
[18:14] <V3NOM> maybe is that
[18:14] <tta> try it
[18:14] <V3NOM> i will
[18:15] <V3NOM> i have to go now
[18:15] <nata> tta: i think is your bios problem. just comfirm again (F8 generally) 1st run is cd-rom then 2nd is hardisk. if still cannot is your cd problem or drive problem
[18:15] <V3NOM> anyway k3b is the best burning tool ever
[18:15] <V3NOM> thanks you guys
[18:15] <nata> bye
[18:15] <V3NOM> bye bye see you soon
[18:16] <tta> save journee
[18:16] <tta> nata: wait my friend is trying something else
[18:17] <nata> i still waitting unity..
[18:17] <nata> plan to try it
[18:17] <nata> ok
[18:17] <tta> ok
[18:17] <nata> burn new cd better :)
[18:45] <tta> nata: thanks we succeed
[18:46] <nata> tta: good. whats is the problem?
[18:47] <tta> can you help me to convert pi into binary using floating point format
[18:47] <nata> i dont know...hehe
[18:48] <james147> tta: why do yo uneed to do that?
[18:48] <tta> do what?
[18:48] <james147> ^^
[18:49] <tta> ah yes it's very important
[18:54] <tta> there is no body to help me please
[18:54] <james147> tta: either tell us why you are trying to do that or look up the definition of floating point numbers given by the ieee standard
[18:56] <tta> i need to build a program for scientific calculation ;i am doing mechanical engineering
[18:58] <james147> tta: then just create a varible of type float (or better yet double) and assign the value of pi to it... or do the sane thing and use the Math library of the language you are using, most already have a definition of pi
[18:59] <tta> be more explicit
[18:59] <theonlinesmoker> hi all
[18:59] <james147> tta: i cannot without knowing what lauguage you are using
[18:59] <tta> c
[19:01] <james147> tta: then use PI from math.h
[19:01] <tta> and...
[19:03] <james147> tta: and do the calculation you need to do ^^
[19:03] <tta> genuis...
[19:04] <tta> how does anjuta work?
[19:09] <korisnik> !extras
[19:21] <tta> i leave
[20:35] <samad> is gnome3 better than kde ?
[20:36] <yofel> *that* is a very subjective question - also I think they're hard to compare since gnome3 isn't even released yet
[20:36] <samad> i mean like beauty wise/ ease of use.. the website has option to download it
[20:37] <samad> is it worth it ?
[20:37] <yofel> no idea, haven't tried it yet, I'll try it once it comes out
[20:37] <samad> its coming out in april 11 i think; with ubuntu 11.04..
[20:38] <yofel> it's supposed to come out in april yes, but ubuntu 11.04 won't have gnome3
[20:38] <samad> why ever not ?
[20:39] <samad> it would be stable by then.. ?
[20:39] <yofel> you'll have to ask the ubuntu release managers that - they decided to go with unity for 11.04
[20:40] <samad> oh well; anyone know a GUI program or sumthing to edit GRUB2 list of OS coz its got like a billion options right now :D
[20:41] <samad> i wouldn't mind commands as long as they arent excessive; i read sumthing about editing grub.cfg file
[20:42] <agropesus> pardus
[20:44] <yofel> samad: that file isn't meant to be edited, you'll have to either edit /etc/default/grub for simple settings and the files in /etc/grub.d/ for more in-depth changes (the changes in /etc/grub.d/ are reset though I think when you get a grub update - not sure)
[20:45] <samad> thanks; so next time i boot it will have fewer options ?
[20:46] <basy> hi i am looking for C++ tutorials for KDE Screensavers ( OpenGL )
[21:45] <beatmeyer1> tt
[21:57] <Guest61637> how do you fix your computer when it goes to black screen and says login and freezes?
[22:50] <rtdos> how do i launch samba config from the commandline?
[23:02] <nobody> Anybody free for some audio help...?
[23:02] <TTA> GO AHEAD
[23:02] <nobody> Having mic issues.
[23:03] <nobody> Works on a fresh install, but stops after a while... Tried alsamixer, etc. Can't seem to get anything to work.
[23:03] <TTA> what is it?
[23:03] <nobody> I'm using a Asus N61JQ laptop with a build in mic.
[23:04] <nobody> Under audio options I get Internal and Redwood 5600
[23:07] <nobody> Also Kubuntu 10.10. With backports.
[23:27] <TTA> nobody:if it's a windows: look for the service tag of your laptop and go on http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us   and you enter your service tag's number in the space provided
[23:28] <TTA> it's ok?