[00:01] <Daekdroom> Odd.
[00:01] <Daekdroom> Rhythmbox refuses to place some songs in the library.
[00:01] <Daekdroom> As if they didn't exist as files.
[00:09] <cjohnston> is anyone else experiencing a problem similar to bug #725352
[00:12] <Daekdroom> cjohnston, I have the impression that pretty much everyone is facing that.
[00:13] <Daekdroom> and that bug report is probably going to be marked as a duplicated
[00:13] <Daekdroom> Well.
[00:14] <Daekdroom> As I've seen that happen, it still worked sometimes, and then the windowmanager crashed
[00:18] <cjohnston> I'm still also only being offered a partial upgrade :-(
[04:14] <leftyfb> I just installed alpha2 and did all the updates within a Virtualbox. I have 3d acceleration enabled and guest additions installed. How do I enable the Unity interface?
[05:25] <DanaG> Say, is magic trackpad supposed to still not do scrolling out-of-the-box?
[05:31] <DanaG> And how do I get somebody to actually look at this bug, that is NOT a duplicate of the bug it's marked a duplicate of?
[05:31] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/546697
[05:31] <DanaG> Notice the difference in topic.
[05:31] <DanaG> er, subject.
[05:31] <DanaG> er, meant to ask some of that in #ubuntu-x
[05:41] <coz_> ooo is nvidia fixed now?
[06:03] <DanaG> well, that was weird... somehow, I ended up with gdk-pixbuf missing.
[06:03] <DanaG> And then all sorts of stuff broke.
[06:03] <DanaG> (gtk-update-icon-cache:3398): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory
[07:28] <Machtin> sweet.. nvidia's working.
[08:51] <Goldhamster> ist einer da der mir auf deutsch antworten kann weil mein engl. ist ...
[08:52] <Goldhamster> meine frage ich bekomme natty nicht inst. ich weiss es ist alpha
[09:12] <Goldhamster> dvd sagt mir kernelmodul kann nicht geladen werden usw
[09:13] <Goldhamster> die cd läuft bis sie die den partition manager laden will da hängt sie sich auf
[09:31] <bazhang> !de | Goldhamster
[09:33] <Goldhamster> da bin ich immer und da habe ich den #.... bekommen
[09:33] <Goldhamster> es hätte ja sein können
[09:42] <Goldhamster> I am able natty not instalieren
[09:42] <Goldhamster> with dvd he says to me cannot find kernelmodul
[09:42] <Goldhamster> with alternate cd he hangs himself with partion
[11:38] <coz_> hey guys
[11:59] <zfe> hello
[11:59] <bazhang> its alpha2
[12:00] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha2
[12:36] <kenta> hey. I'm having a issue with networking after dist-upgrade.
[12:36] <kenta> eth0 looks completely dead.
[12:37] <kenta> on both my test machines running 11.04
[12:40] <zniavre> questions about unity-2d must posted in #ayatana or here is a good place ?
[13:17] <marti> Hi there, I thought I've had an issue with Wayland, yet according to the operator of #ubuntu-nl Xorg is still used in the daily build of Natty 02/23/11
[13:18] <marti> I made a photo using my cellphone and I wonder if that photo is usable information.
[13:22] <marti> This is what my screen looks like: http://img11.imageshack.us/i/foto0005kh.jpg/
[13:22] <bazhang> !find wayland
[13:22] <bazhang> !info wayland
[13:24] <marti> The GPU is a Nvidia 7000M and I have the idea that the proprietary Nvidia driver is loaded.
[13:30] <yofel> bazhang: wayland is in the archive, but we don't actually use it
[13:31] <yofel> marti: did you install the proprietary driver?
[13:32] <bazhang> yofel, yep, just curious if it was in repos I should have /msg'd ubottu
[13:32] <yofel> ^^
[13:33] <zniavre> do we hav to add Driver "wayland" to xorg.conf to try wayland xserver?
[13:34] <rumpe1> zniavre, don't think that wayland needs xorg.conf...
[13:34] <yofel> zniavre: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-February/032578.html - I don't know more than that
[13:36] <zniavre> ho thank you
[13:37] <zniavre> rumpe1, that s true ...   ^^
[13:40] <zniavre> failed to create display:connection refused ...  no luck with wayland
[14:18] <ginn> hi
[14:18] <ginn> any one here?
[14:19] <bazhang> yes
[14:21] <ginn> some times the title bar is not drawn right. The windows have a blue title bar but some times it is drawn partially blue and I see a few white lines in the title bar.
[14:21] <marti> Yofel: I booted Natty (daily build 02/23/11) from a USB thumb drive. Did not install *anything* manually
[14:21] <ginn> is this a a driver problem?
[14:22] <bazhang> ginn, with your ppa kernel? are you running natty even?
[14:22] <ginn> or in xchat, pieces of text messages are not readable. I can only see parts of a message. If I hight light the message, the whole message appears
[14:22] <ginn> bazhang, 10.10 with ppa kernel
[14:23] <ginn> bazhang, I think I have seen this problem before even with the original kernel
[14:23] <bazhang> ginn, support for ubuntu natty is here, your ppa kernel is your own issue
[14:23] <ginn> I am using an i3 cpu with Intel HD gfx
[14:23] <ginn> bazhang, isn't my kernel part of Natty?
[14:23] <bazhang> ginn, the ppa one? no
[14:23] <ginn> bazhang, but in general, what could be the cause?
[14:24] <bazhang> ginn, contact the maintainers of the ppa I suppose
[14:26] <ginn> isn't Natty even in beta state yet?
[14:27] <bazhang> alpha2
[14:29] <ginn> is it possible to upgrade to Natty without installing the unity interface?
[14:29] <ginn> oh wait, I like the new gnome idea :(
[14:29] <ginn> I won't be upgrading
[14:31] <ginn> it is so 90's
[14:44] <ginn> is it possible to use gnome 2.x with natty?
[14:51] <ginn> !upgrade
[15:00] <ginn> gnome 3 is still in alpha state
[15:00] <ginn> why does it come with natty?
[15:01] <arand> ginn: you can always login with a different manager
[15:02] <ginn> arand, how well does gnome3 run in Natty?
[15:02] <arand> ginn: dunno, reasonably I guess, it isn't the default...
[15:19] <bjsnider> ginn, natty is also in an alpha state
[15:20] <ginn> bjsnider, problem is gnome 3 will be released in April. will there be enough time to test gnome 3 on natty before the stable release date of Natty?
[15:20] <bjsnider> natty will also be released in april
[15:34] <Daekdroom> ginn, as far as I know natty isn't using gnome 3
[15:34] <Daekdroom> You have to install a PPA for it
[15:39] <alex_mayorga> Anyone familiar with the Banshee news?
[15:41] <dmb_> kenta: i am having same issues
[15:41] <dmb_> had to bring up my network manually
[15:41] <dmb_> repos are in bad shape right now
[15:41] <dmb_> it seems
[15:41] <dmb_> my ubuntu-desktop + unity + couple other things got removed in dist-upgrade
[16:21] <kenta> anyone else loose eth0 after dist-update?
[16:22] <kenta> lost it on both my test machines
[16:22] <yofel> kenta: which version of isc-dhcp-client do you have installed?
[16:22] <kenta> let me check
[16:27] <kenta> 4.1.1-p1
[16:29] <yofel> should be 4.1.1-P1-15ubuntu5
[16:29] <kenta> i got *15ubuntu4
[16:30] <yofel> yeah, that's broken, you'll notice that /sbin/dhclient is missing. Either update by copying the .deb from a working system after downloading it, or set up the network without DHCP to update
[16:31] <kenta> thanks. I'll try that
[16:32] <yofel> if you decide to download it, you'll need both -client and -commont ubuntu4
[16:32] <yofel> errr... ubuntu5
[16:32] <yofel> *-common, not -commont
[16:33] <kenta> I'll try to setup eth0 manually again then apt-get update
[16:33] <yofel> that'll be faster, true
[16:33] <kenta> I'll go test. brb i hope.
[16:36] <ginn> hi
[16:36] <ginn> I am trying to install gnome3-session but got this
[16:36] <ginn> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:36] <ginn>  gnome3-session : Depends: gnome-shell but it is not going to be installed
[16:37] <ginn> it seems the package gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 is missing
[16:37] <dmb_> kenta: yes, i did, read above :)
[16:43] <yofel> ginn: iirc the gnome3 bits in the archive aren't installable, there's a PPA with updated gnome3 packages
[16:43] <ginn> yofel, what is the name of the ppa?
[16:44] <yofel> should be https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 I think
[16:46] <ginn> yofel, that is the repo I am using
[16:48] <yofel> ah, then contact the maintainers and get them to fix it
[16:56] <kenta> thanks guys. worked like a charm.
[16:56] <kenta> :)
[17:00] <dmb_> yes, it seems the mirror I use (ubuntu.mit) seems to have outdated packages
[17:00] <dmb_> the other US mirror is too slow :/
[17:01] <dmb_> anyone know of a fast US mirror?
[17:01] <dmb_> that is up to date with the prerelease stuff?
[17:03] <Q-FUNK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/572710/
[17:03] <Q-FUNK> I seem to be having a really weird issue (see pastebin above) but I'm not sure what causes it and therefore which package gets the bug report.  Any idea?
[17:03] <dmb_> is that french?
[17:04] <yofel> dmb_: choose one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[17:05] <dmb_> yofel: ah, thanks, very useful
[17:05] <dmb_> mit is only a day behind
[17:05] <dmb_> feels a lot longer because everything is broken :)
[17:13] <kenta> hi again
[17:13] <kenta> isc-dhcp-client is still 4.1.1-P1-15ubuntu4
[17:14] <kenta> do i need to install it manually?
[17:14] <kenta> 4.1.1-P1-15ubuntu5
[18:10] <high-rez> Should btrfs still be terribly slow in natty ?
[18:14] <coz_> hey guys
[18:22] <ChogyDan> anyone know how to tell then 2.6.38 of linux will be released?
[18:24] <high-rez> Checking kernel.org ?
[18:24] <ChogyDan> oops, I meant when not then
[18:25] <ChogyDan> high-rez: so it says it isn't out yet, but I don't see much in the way of a schedule
[18:28] <penguin42> I don't think there is a schedule as such; but it's upto about rc6 so far and if you look at the stats the average time between kernel releases is relatively constant
[18:55] <charlie-tca> high-rez: bug 601299
[18:56] <high-rez> I thought it had been fixed in .37 :/
[18:59] <Crashbit> mm oh! I have a bug 723482
[19:50] <penguin42> does anyone have kpackagekit ever do upgrades and work?
[19:52]  * yofel never tried - or do you mean simple package updates?
[19:52] <yofel> there was a bug with packagekit and postint scripts failing randomly, but that was fixed
[19:53] <penguin42> hmm this is a postinst failure during an upgrade - I haven't upgraded since last weekend and it hung on a postinst trying to write to stderr
[19:54] <penguin42> yofel: I try it every few weeks and almost invariably end up with an apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:55] <yofel> I seriously never tried it, only GUI I use if ever is Muon
[19:55] <penguin42> yofel: The gnome update-manager works fine >99% of the time, for all the 'oh there are updates - do it'
[19:56] <yofel> yeah, I did use kpackagekit once in maverick, but that was long after release, never on an alpha
[20:46] <mnaines> When is Ubuntu 11.04 due out?  April?
[20:46] <yofel> mnaines: see schedule in the topic
[21:08] <magicianlord> what is the color theme for 11
[21:08] <ikonia> magicianlord: have a look at the development pages for info on things like themes
[21:08] <ikonia> there are also some good threads on forum
[21:08] <magicianlord> that's hard to find
[21:09] <Machtin> might it be that the now working nvidia-driver kinda blows?
[21:10] <magicianlord> the free one?
[21:10] <Machtin> nope, nvidia-current
[21:10] <yofel> works fine here
[21:10] <magicianlord> why would it blow
[21:11] <magicianlord> are you using a high end card
[21:11] <Machtin> well, it does work.. just seems to be slower and more glitchy than nouveau
[21:11] <magicianlord> you should only use basic cards
[21:11] <Machtin> GTX260, wouldn't call it high end
[21:11] <magicianlord> anything above 7x series is high end with ubuntu
[21:11] <magicianlord> i'd stick with 6x or 7x
[21:11] <Machtin> i see.
[21:11] <yofel> it does feel a bit slower than nouveau here - but it's always been like that I think
[21:12] <Machtin> okay, odd
[21:12] <magicianlord> i dont know man. i mean i just dont see the point of a high end gpu with linux
[21:12] <magicianlord> suit yourself
[21:12] <Machtin> magicianlord: dual boot system :)
[21:12] <Machtin> i play stuff from time to time.
[21:12] <yofel> magicianlord: 6x and 7x are barely even supported anymore - and there are playable linux games too, but dual boot would be the Nr.1 reason I guess
[21:12] <magicianlord> do you have a psp?
[21:13] <yofel> *supported by nvidia-current
[21:13] <magicianlord> yofel: i use it on integrated 6100
[21:13] <magicianlord> no problems there
[21:13] <Machtin> magicianlord: psp aka playstation portable?
[21:13] <Machtin> if yes: no
[21:14] <magicianlord> 3yes
[21:15] <yofel> my cards work fine too, it's just that nvidias driver always feels a tad slower than nouveau - nouveau can't compare when it comes to the supported features though
[21:15] <magicianlord> i am starting an rpg ocllection for it, with xseeds bringing falcom gameso ver to the us
[21:15] <magicianlord> and i noticed that hte construction on the 3000 psp model is cheaper than the 1000
[21:15] <magicianlord> so i cried, but then. i keep using 1000 :)
[21:24] <high-rez> *blink* more glitchy than nouveau?  huh?
[21:25] <magicianlord> nouveau flickers with integrated gpu
[21:25] <magicianlord> i noticed this
[21:27] <high-rez> nouveau doesn't even work with my card.  just corrupted display, locked machine, etc.  i hace to blacklist it just to install.  I think its a poor decision to make it default this early in its development.
[21:28] <yofel> nouveau works for me - but I get frequent GPU lockups on my notbook, known issue
[21:28] <yofel> *notebook
[21:28] <high-rez> geforce gt 240 here.
[21:29] <yofel> my geforce 250GTS works fine, my quadro NVS 3100M does not
[21:30] <yofel> they should at least disable hardware acceleration in nouveau, that's what gives me the GPU lockups
[21:31] <magicianlord> yofel: is nouveau acceleration default in 11.04 now?
[21:32] <magicianlord> are you related to yuffie bunny?
[21:32] <yofel> it's on by default for some cards, you can install another package which gives it support for more cards
[21:32] <yofel> no
[21:33] <magicianlord> so it will be on for geforc 6100 or 7300?
[21:33] <yofel> I don't know that
[21:33]  * magicianlord cries
[23:23] <ginn> "The installation of a package which violates the quality standards isn't allowed. This could cause serious problems on your computer. Please contact the person or organisation who provided this package file and include the details beneath."
[23:23] <ginn> what is this? got that error when trying to install Dropbox
[23:23] <ginn> bazhang, do you know anything about it?
[23:24] <yofel> what are the details included beneath?
[23:24] <ginn> Lintian check results for /tmp/nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb:
[23:24] <ginn> E: nautilus-dropbox: copyright-contains-dh_make-todo-boilerplate
[23:24] <ginn> W: nautilus-dropbox: killall-is-dangerous postinst:139
[23:24] <ginn> W: nautilus-dropbox: maintainer-script-ignores-errors postrm
[23:24] <ginn> E: nautilus-dropbox: pkg-has-shlibs-control-file-but-no-actual-shared-libs
[23:24] <ginn> W: nautilus-dropbox: postinst-has-useless-call-to-ldconfig
[23:24] <ginn> W: nautilus-dropbox: postrm-has-useless-call-to-ldconfig
[23:25] <yofel> huh? they made it do lintian checks at install time?
[23:25] <ginn> yofel, so it seems
[23:26] <ginn> ay way to override it
[23:26] <ginn> ?
[23:26] <joaopinto> I hope that is just for alpha
[23:26] <yofel> well, the first 2 Ws should probably be fixed, the E errors are packaging internal and go against the policy I think but shouldn't break anything, and the other 2 Ws are probably harmless
[23:27] <yofel> ginn: what application fails?
[23:28] <ginn> yofel, one. I was trying to install it
[23:28] <ginn> none*
[23:29] <yofel> ginn: install it using what app?
[23:29] <yofel> dpkg, gdebi, SC, ...?
[23:29] <ginn> yofel, Ubuntu Software Center
[23:30] <yofel> I'm clueless then, use dpkg -i /tmp/nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb in a terminal as workaround I guess
[23:30] <ginn> yofel, install successful using dpkg
[23:31] <charlie-tca> file a bug using ubuntu-bug software-center
[23:31] <ginn> charlie-tca, how do I file a bug? what website?
[23:32] <ginn> I have never done it before
[23:32] <charlie-tca> you open a terminal and type "ubuntu-bug software-center" without the quotes
[23:32] <joaopinto> there is a bug already for that
[23:32] <joaopinto> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/712377
[23:33] <charlie-tca> never mind, then
[23:33] <joaopinto> the question is wether it's a real bug, or an intended feature
[23:33] <charlie-tca> You can install the same apps without software center, that is bug
[23:34] <ginn> there should be a override button
[23:35] <joaopinto> The ""The installation of a package which violates the quality standards isn't allowed." does not seem a bug to me
[23:35] <joaopinto> someone added lintian support to software center for this :)
[23:35] <yofel> can someone add the software center version this happens in to the bug please?
[23:36] <ginn> I don't have an account
[23:36] <ginn> is it free to create one?
[23:36] <joaopinto> yes