[00:02] hummm [00:02] no one answering [00:09] nertilov: I would install it on another ubuntu server....then copy everything in /var/cache/apt/archives/ to usb stick [00:12] how can i tell if my server has a local static IP? [00:13] hydrozii: ifconfig will tell you the current ip [00:13] mhm [00:13] why build-essential isnt loaded by default [00:13] nertil: why would it be? [00:14] nertil: almost everything is done through apt-get [00:14] yes but there are ppl that dont use internet [00:14] i use my ubuntu for make and cmake [00:14] gcc [00:15] nertil: yea alot of people do as well...also allot of people use the internet :-/ [00:15] than were are my solutions [00:15] bah [00:15] some says build-essential is in the cdrom [00:15] but i cant find it [00:17] nertil: find /media/cdrom -name build-essential* [00:18] nertil: or where ever it is mounted [00:18] let me check [00:18] first need to mount the cdrom [00:18] with apt-cdrom add [00:19] but i think i fixed with bridge connections from windows xp to ubuntu eth0 [00:22] nertil: why does your xp machine have internet but not your ubuntu machine [00:23] nertil: also you want to make sure you are running updates [00:23] nertil: which requires the internet [00:23] anybody here good with nginx. my config doesn't serve anything in /phpmyadmin/ to php-fpm and i was hoping somebody might know what i exploderated http://fpaste.org/r9n3/ [00:23] (i know i used fpaste but i am using ubuntu) [00:23] thesheff17 i just fixed with bridge connection an internet in ubuntu [00:23] but i will disable it later [00:24] i reinstalled box now im at configuring apt and its retriving some files [00:24] also looks like i will setup wlan0 for that box [00:24] just to be in internet [00:25] because its in my high level of my house [00:25] its in floor 4 [00:30] what for is python2.6 [00:31] New bug: #725359 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725359 [00:51] New bug: #725362 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725362 [00:54] kim0: kirkland: good news is I locally have spice client, libs, and qemu with spice working. I'll push them all to my ppa once the build problems (whatever they are) are over [00:54] kim0: kirkland: the bad news, my natty server image wouldn't boot for the same reason as -vga std. RHEL booted fine. [00:55] * hallyn out [00:57] hallyn: \o/ [00:57] hallyn: well, i guess we've reproduced that problem, then [01:01] anyone have any pointers on installing server on md raid 1 [01:01] ive done several installs and they all have failed [01:01] cant even get mobo raid to work [01:02] hello there :) [01:02] does this mean you will help me, willwork? [01:02] Mark_, actually I'm here looking for some help [01:02] oh :( [01:03] can anyone help me with getting mdraid to work? I followed the instructions online and have dropped to a grub prompt at reboot' [01:03] and im running out of time :( [01:04] if anyone is tempted to build a ZFS storage system, just keep in mind not to fill up the VDEVs with > 80-90% - it might take some time fixing that unless you can delete a few terabytes [01:04] or can anyone tell me if i can just do the automated lvm install, and add raid later? [01:04] Mark_: I don't think you can [01:04] would it be easier to just do ubuntu desktop with mdraid? [01:04] i am desperate to get ubuntu of some form onto a raided setup in the next hour [01:05] Mark_: for most desktops, redundancy won't be much needed so long as the data is on server [01:05] its for a backup server running crashplan [01:05] use nfs and a good server and the homedirs will be safe, the rest is easy to reinstall [01:05] i am desperate because our tape backup solution just went south and we need our CVS backed up asap [01:05] and i head out of state in 12 hours [01:06] perfect storm lol [01:06] try bacula [01:06] bacula can easily backup to disk [01:06] its to be offsite, but regardless i need mdraid on this setup [01:06] and it works well [01:06] we're going to be using crashplan FWIW [01:06] regardless, we want raid [01:06] * RoyK uses bacula on ZFS storage [01:07] normal RAID systems don't checksum data [01:07] which is quite bad if you have a lot of it [01:07] crashplan does [01:07] all thats taken care of [01:07] i just need mdraid [01:07] ok [01:07] /wi/win last [01:08] any thooughts on what im doing wrong? [01:08] i tried mobo raid, and first issue was all sorts of "cannot find UUID" crap [01:08] never used crashplan, sorry [01:08] i mean with ubuntus raid [01:08] the entire issue is i cannot get ubuntu installed with raid [01:08] either mobo or mdraid [01:08] thats all i need to do [01:08] mobo raid is usually quite useless [01:09] its better than no raid [01:09] 99% of those so-called raid controllers don't really have hardware raid, only accellerators at best [01:09] as long as data is mirrored thats all we care about [01:10] md raid for ubuntu has worked for me on the boxes where I've used it [01:10] the extent of my task from the folks who care is that we need 2 drives in this thing with replicas of the important bits [01:10] so when im doing the install...do i do lvm? [01:10] just setup the partitions, mirrors, etc, install, reboot [01:10] let me get to that point so i can ask you about the partitioning [01:11] cause its doing something wierd [01:11] with reserved bios partitions and whatnot [01:11] I haven't used LVM for mirroring yet - just MD [01:11] no problems so far [01:11] oh, can i do that direct from the install disk? [01:11] yes, you can [01:11] both [01:11] so start the normal textmode install, and get to partitioning screen, yes? [01:12] yes, and then choose setup raid [01:12] getting there [01:12] create partitions for the MD devices, create a RAID1, put a filesystem there ...... [01:12] i didnt see raid, but ill double check [01:13] 10.04? [01:13] only w10.10. [01:13] well, same thing [01:13] first, create RAID partitions, same size on both drives [01:13] then choose setup RAID [01:14] back [01:14] its mark [01:14] had to use net cable on the box, im @ partitioning now. [01:14] Does anyone know of an easy way to detect NAT on a school network? [01:14] i see several guided options, and manual, but no raid option [01:15] On the topic of bridging, can a bridged device use dhcp? The examples only show static. Would be nice to keep using "static" dhcp to manage all my statics from one device. [01:15] guided with resize disks a and b, guided with entire partition disks a and b, entire disk, lvm, and manual [01:15] which do i want royk [01:15] ksoviero: I don't know what you mean by detect. All ipv4 networks usually are NATed. [01:16] ksoviero: Your school probably has a 10. address scheme for their internal network. [01:16] AtomicSpark: if someone on the network sets up their own router, I would like to know about it... [01:16] limecat: just go manual, create separate md partitions for each filesystem, go back, choose configure raid, go back, create filesystems..... [01:17] ksoviero: So you want to see if someone put a router on your LAN or do you want to make sure someone isn't MITMing you? [01:17] royk-- do i need a /boot thats outside the md partition? [01:18] or do i do the entire disk as md [01:18] AtomicSpark: I want to make sure kids aren't playing LAN games without my knowledge [01:18] ksoviero: A router would look like any other device from the outside. There isn't really a good way of detecting it. [01:18] limecat: I'm not sure, but I always create a 1GB or less mirror for the /boot [01:18] does anyone know whether i need to have /boot outside of my mdraid? [01:19] wait you have a separate mirror for /boot? [01:19] limecat: you can easily boot off a raid1 [01:19] ah ok [01:19] I usually do, yes [01:19] no idea if it's necessary, but imho it makes sense to separate /boot from the root [01:19] so it will probably work with a single 2tb md volume [01:19] ksoviero: They would have to replace your router to get around any parental controls. If your router blocks certain outgoing ports, placing a router on your LAN wont fix this. [01:19] ah ok ill do that [01:20] AtomicSpark: If they setup their own router, that can then play lan games, and I won't be able to know... that it the problem [01:20] limecat: with 2TB total, separating 1GB for the boot will be both overkill and quite cheap :P [01:20] my real desire is to have a separate partition for all the data [01:20] but at this point [01:20] i dont care anymore and just want the thing to work [01:21] AtomicSpark: would the packets sent from a nated device include anything? 192.168.1.34 == 10.etc [01:21] ksoviero: They could also just use a switch. None of the packets would go to your router if it's just a LAN games. [01:21] limecat: well, create a 10GB partition (that is, a mirror) for the root - or 100GB if you're nervous - and it'll suffice [01:21] then use the rest for your /data mirror [01:22] royk-- not taking chances [01:22] AtomicSpark: alot of lan games use broadcast addresses to talk, so i can detect it, but broadcast addresses dont leave a nat device [01:22] its not really vital, this will probably be a temporary measure-- the hardware is all commodity [01:22] ksoviero: Hmm. [01:22] limecat: best thing would be to use md for the /boot and lvm for the rest [01:22] so i mirror sda1 and sdb1, NOT sda and sdb, correct? [01:22] start off with as little as possible [01:22] the partitions, not the devices [01:23] limecat: sda and sdb would mean all of it, so yes, use partitions [01:23] ext4 still scary for production? [01:23] limecat: No. [01:24] AtomicSpark: would the packets sent from a nated device include anything? 192.168.1.34 == 10.0.0.? [01:24] ksoviero: I don't think so. [01:24] ksoviero: Everything should seem as it was just coming from the router. [01:24] limecat: no, it's quite stable [01:26] limecat: Ext4 wasn't really ever "scary". There was a bunch of fear mongering over the change when data was actually written to the disk, but those changes were also implemented in ext3. [01:26] AtomicSpark: thanks anyway for your help, I guess I will stick with the old standby... Physical searches [01:27] AtomicSpark, it was scary in that badly written apps caused bad things to happen AFAIK. Wanted to make sure that was unlikely to still be a common occurance [01:28] so i have 2 raid devices, md0 and md1, with boot and root [01:28] this is a workable config yes? [01:29] Are you asking if you only need a root partition? [01:30] I just asked in #ubuntu, but I'm guessing you guys would be more likely to know anyways - how can I get nc.traditional on the live cd (10.04 x64)? [01:31] Anyone here ever used an ASMB4-iKVM management board? [01:31] Hmm. I'm scared to see if iface br0 inet dhcp \n bridge_ports eth0 is all I need to bridge eth0 while keeping dhcp. :\ [01:32] limecat: You'll be fine. Just don't try btrfs yet ;) [01:35] limecat: as AS said, it'll work - using btrfs might be interesting, but then, interesting may not be entirely positive :P [01:36] interesting right now is having a backup system and leaving for my trip on time :) [01:37] why are computers so complicated [01:38] Okay, I didn't lock myself out of my server. Using dhcp with bridging works! :) [01:40] limecat: computers aren't complicated, it's like women, you just need to know which buttons to press :P [01:40] lol [01:41] http://xkcd.com/722/ <--- my day [01:42] :) [01:42] * RoyK has got the xkcd paper version :) [01:42] limecat: I like the troubleshooting flowchart better :) [01:42] just had to buy it [01:42] http://xkcd.com/627/ [01:42] cartoons are best on paper [01:43] oh noes they spilled the secret of how i do my job [01:43] Okay, I'm sure I'll be back later to complain/get help with the current progress of my server reinstall. [01:44] http://xkcd.org/859/ [01:44] and of course http://xkcd.org/844/ [01:44] yea, 859 didnt do it for me [01:45] didnt really bug me that bad; i only tool scheme during one compsci class [01:46] the paper version of xkcd is neat, though [01:46] how do you hover for text? [01:46] page numbers in trinary... [01:46] with your index finger? [01:46] * RoyK likes books [01:46] ack need network cable again brb [01:47] wireless TP cable? [01:47] Twisted Potential [01:48] so i know nothing about solaris or sunos...how do you fetch urls with it? neither curl nor fetch works, and i dont have a gui [01:48] wget [01:48] it should be under /usr/sfw/bin [01:48] probably not in path [01:49] ah i forgot about that [01:49] * RoyK is off to bed - nite for now [01:50] thx for your help [01:51] wich php should i use with apache2 is php5 ok ? [01:52] nertil: yes, it's the only one supported in ubuntu currently and the older ones you should definitely avoid at all means [01:52] okey [01:56] ack "executing grub-install /dev/sda failed" [01:56] halp [01:58] what ftp i need to install [01:58] ftpd? [01:58] vsftpd is quite good [01:58] just installed proftpd [01:59] will it be ok? [01:59] afaik the most used ftp server on the planet [01:59] proftpd is good as well [01:59] okey [01:59] just use what you like [02:00] disk /dev/md1 doesnt contain a valid partition table ugh [02:00] oh nvm [02:02] im going to go crazy why wont grub install now [02:04] Mark_, you have physical access to the machine, right? [02:04] im sitting at it [02:04] it has gpt on the drives, and 2 md raid devices [02:05] md0 (boot) and md1 (root) [02:05] how can i fix phpsysinfo ? [02:05] Mark_, okay, just checking if I needed to have any empathy for you :) [02:05] and i havent been able to get it to install with raid all night [02:05] i just downloaded [02:05] you do [02:05] im about to tear my hair out [02:06] Mark_, I'm trying to repair a server that got dropped on moves between offices that won't boot. the NAT it is behind is a POS, so I'm doing it with nc [02:06] ah [02:06] well [02:06] i have a plane to catch in 11 hours, and need this server up before then, and have a ton of other work to do [02:07] but really, at this point, its mostly just my hatred of this box thats upsetting [02:07] * RoyK is available for onlt $250 an hour [02:07] s/onlt/only/ [02:08] i thought you were asleep >_> [02:08] im about to just say to heck with raid [02:08] not yet :þ [02:09] can you just RAID it in BIOS? [02:09] btw, setting up software raid on a server is usually quite trivial [02:09] Norkakn: either hardware raid or software raid [02:09] ./grub: permission denied sudo !!: sudo not found [02:09] i hate computers [02:10] im at a root prompt [02:10] hardware raid for good controllers like 3ware, areca, HP, whatever, but most mobos have so-called raid controllers that rely on drivers [02:10] so why would i get permission denied after chmod 777 on /target/boot/grub [02:11] chown username [02:11] wtf would you want to chmod 777 /target/boot/grub??? [02:11] its owned by root, and im at a root prompt [02:12] RoyK, shotgun approach :\ [02:12] Mark_: being promiscuous? [02:12] if i cant figure this out in about 15 minutes, the installs getting wiped and im skipping raid [02:12] so at this point anything goes [02:12] Mark_: try 10.04 [02:12] it's meant to be stable, for servers [02:13] 10.10 is more of a toy compared to LTS releases [02:13] yes 10.04.2 [02:13] RoyK, that takes more downloading [02:13] lol [02:13] time is quite short [02:13] Mark_: whatever [02:13] Mark_: next time, use an LTS release for the server [02:13] yea, i plan to [02:14] 8.04 [02:14] or 10.04 [02:14] 9.04 imo [02:14] 9.04 != LTS [02:14] 9.04 is not lts [02:14] 9.04 isn't even supported anymore [02:14] only 18 months support for non-LTS releases [02:15] till when is supported 10.04 [02:15] ? [02:15] 15.04 [02:15] this year? [02:15] april 2015 [02:15] ah ok [02:16] its 8.04 supported yet? [02:16] 5 years support for LTS server installs [02:16] nertil: yes, until april 2013 [02:16] wihi ok === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [02:16] ughhh [02:17] 5 years support for LTS server releases, 3 years for LTS desktop releases, 18 months for non-LTS releases [02:17] phpsysinfo is good for servers [02:17] :P [02:18] or just lshw :P [02:18] lshw? [02:18] what the heck is stopping me from installing grub [02:18] apt-get install ..... [02:18] apt-get install lshw ? [02:18] * RoyK goes back to plan A - bed! [02:18] nertil: try that [02:19] okey but [02:19] let me read more about that [02:19] what for is lshw RoyK [02:19] were can i read more? [02:19] nertil: list hardware [02:19] it just lists whatever's in your box [02:20] but now - nite [02:20] ohh ok [02:20] i thought its something with web support like phpsysinfo [02:21] nertil: Why do you need a tool to examine your hardware to do so over HTTP?? [02:22] if you really need it, lshw has a -html switch that will output what it sees as HTML, so you can do sudo lshw .... -html >somefile.html [02:23] and stick that somefile.html where your web server can see it... but... why? Just read the output in your ssh session :) [02:23] hehe yes [02:23] i know but its kinda fun [02:23] :) [02:23] * jmarsden thinks you have an odd definition of fun... [02:24] if I don't remember the block size and such for an md array, is there a way to redetect it and add it still? [02:24] ugh found the issue [02:24] gpt partition has no bios boot partition.... [03:02] hi [03:02] how do i set up a wireless network to connect to? [03:04] Can someone please help me? I really dont understand wireless networking from the terminal window [03:06] s2555: meaning you want to set up an ad-hoc wireless network to share your wired network, from cmdline? [03:07] no [03:07] i want the server to connect to a wireless network [03:07] do u want ur ubuntu server to connect with wlan0 ? [03:07] yes [03:07] let me find some guide [03:07] :) [03:07] thanks :) [03:07] i am just using this on my server because the desktop wasted too much ram [03:07] so yeah [03:07] i dun like blackscreens though [03:08] i use wlan0 too [03:08] :) [03:08] http://pastebin.com/fTusXU97 [03:08] I couls just waste $30 and get a router to use as a net adapter [03:08] thank you [03:08] read [03:08] it needs some tips/tricks [03:08] :P [03:09] also [03:09] thats gonna be so like [03:09] it connects on startup too right? [03:09] yes [03:09] read that guide [03:09] ok [03:09] thank you [03:09] follow steps [03:09] no problem [03:10] but how can i do an apt-get install nano if i dont have an ie connection [03:10] or is that already installed? [03:10] just use pico [03:11] ok [03:11] instead of nano [03:11] but u need build-essential [03:11] how do i find the model of the adapter? [03:11] ahgrrr [03:11] :) [03:11] lol [03:11] i have NO terminal knowledge whatsoever [03:12] oh yeah, expect to see me around a lot ;) [03:12] well read the guide it says you need windows .inf driver of ur adapter [03:12] i told u u need some tips/tricks to install wlan0 on ubuntu server [03:12] how am i supposed to put it on the server? [03:12] with usb stick [03:12] ah [03:12] :) [03:12] and those steps are there too? [03:13] no that steps arent [03:13] u need to have little experience [03:13] well, you can teach me [03:13] its not just plug and play at all [03:13] LOL [03:13] no i can help you :) [03:13] :) [03:13] this channel is very convenient [03:13] u first need internet to setup build-essential [03:13] ok [03:13] how do i do that? [03:13] its not connected to internet [03:13] without build-essential you can not make the ndiswraper [03:13] conect it [03:14] :D [03:14] errr [03:14] can i just get the tarball off a site [03:14] and then just put it on a usb a [03:14] no [03:14] :O [03:14] why not? [03:14] i cant get an internet connection [03:14] its on internet [03:14] than stand off [03:15] how about this - i can get the tarball off some site, and then copy and paste it to the server [03:15] and then untar it there [03:15] no [03:15] u cant find build-essential [03:15] why wont that work? [03:15] its not in the server cd too [03:15] i tryed that u say [03:16] but u can do this if u have laptop you can bridge your connection and give connection to ur ubuntu till u download some important stuffs [03:16] OK [03:16] how do i do that? [03:16] waity [03:16] can i just get an old router [03:16] and use it to bridge the connection? [03:16] well my friend i told you enough just google about bridge connections you will learn more, its not the point to teach you, point is to point you somewere so youll teach ur self alone [03:17] one more question [03:17] its called build essential right? [03:17] build-essential? [03:17] build-essential [03:17] there is gcc libc6 make [03:17] build-ESSENTIAL [03:17]