[02:10] <chibihogoshino> xfce4-volumed uses 250 meg of swap.. why ?
[02:13] <cyberanger> top?
[02:13] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[02:13] <cyberanger> what's your memory?
[02:14] <chibihogoshino> what is it ?
[02:14] <cyberanger> and it's utilization too
[02:14] <chibihogoshino> i have 4 gig and im using 800 meg
[02:14] <cyberanger> yeah, thinking maybe it's buffering something
[02:15] <cyberanger> well, that makes less sense then
[02:15] <chibihogoshino> its always used that much tho.. just to turn the volume up and down
[02:16] <cyberanger> is that all it does?
[02:16] <chibihogoshino> as far as i know
[02:17] <chibihogoshino> https://launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed
[02:17] <chibihogoshino> that just seams allot for what it does ..
[02:18] <chibihogoshino> 50 meg less than rhythmbox ..
[02:18] <cyberanger> I thin the fact the entire launchpad site is https should be considered a bug
[02:18] <chibihogoshino> heh
[02:18] <chibihogoshino> file it
[02:18] <cyberanger> think I will be
[02:18] <chibihogoshino> sweet
[02:18] <cyberanger> as for your issue, dunno
[02:19] <cyberanger> maybe some hardware limitation, memory leak, idk, it's using swap with alot of ram, seems odd
[02:19] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[02:19] <cyberanger> launchpad being all https, I can't cache any of it
[02:21] <cyberanger> for a celluar or satellite connection I use squid to cut down or repetive requests (and on a normal connection too, but it's intentional for capped or poor connections)
[02:21] <cyberanger> it breaks my cache
[02:21] <chibihogoshino> it is kinda odd since all the software is open
[02:26] <cyberanger> I can understand something like tor
[02:26] <cyberanger> but tor is on it's own server and domain, dead giveaway
[02:27] <cyberanger> I don't know of any software on lp that is similar in nature, for that concern
[02:27] <cyberanger> and on top of it, tor can use http
[02:27] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[02:27] <cyberanger> lp shoves https down your throat
[02:28] <cyberanger> no disable option
[02:28] <chibihogoshino> yeah its a little gay
[02:29] <cyberanger> it's odd, normally I demand for an ssl option
[02:30] <chibihogoshino> why cant you download from https ?
[02:35] <cyberanger> my proxy can't
[02:35] <cyberanger> it's the nature of encryption, anything in the middle breaks the chain
[02:36] <cyberanger> I can use the proxy as a tunnel
[02:36] <cyberanger> but I can't cache
[02:36] <chibihogoshino> ah
[02:56] <chibihogoshino> it would be cool to have a screen saver that zooms out all the windows and keeps them updated
[03:35] <chibihogoshino> anyone working on a google team calendar ?
[03:42] <chibihogoshino> when is the last time anyone had a kernel panic ?
[03:52] <chris4585> kernel panics usually only happen if you try to make them happy in my own experience
[03:52] <chris4585> happen*
[03:52] <chris4585> lol @ happy typo
[03:52] <chibihogoshino> lol
[04:30] <wrst> chibihogoshino: i had a kernel panic in the last few months
[04:30] <chibihogoshino> are you running 32 or 64 bit ?
[04:32] <wrst> 32 but it was in natty though so dont' guess that counts
[04:35] <chibihogoshino> oh
[14:14] <cyberanger> chris4585: it takes something odd for a kernel panic, that's for sure
[14:14] <cyberanger> but it's more likely when messing with it (which I've done)
[16:09] <chibihogoshino> yo chris4585
[16:12] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: hey, hadn't seen chris4585 all morning
[16:12] <chibihogoshino> ah
[16:12] <cyberanger> is your panic resolved
[16:13] <cyberanger> how about your kernels?
[16:13] <chibihogoshino> oh it was a friend .. he was running 64 bit version
[16:14] <chibihogoshino> he put in his password and it panicked
[16:16] <cyberanger> ah, ouch
[16:17] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[16:17] <chibihogoshino> that is a odd place for one
[16:17] <cyberanger> I manage a team calander, but idk if it's actually gotten use
[16:17] <cyberanger> should be public
[16:17] <chibihogoshino> its not ?
[16:17] <cyberanger> honestly by the time I hear of anything solid enough to put on a calandar, I wondered if anyone would notice
[16:18] <cyberanger> that's changed lately, with smartphones
[16:19] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[16:19] <chibihogoshino> a little..
[16:20] <chibihogoshino> i dont have one tho
[16:20] <chris4585> hi chibihogoshino
[16:20] <chibihogoshino> ah chris4585 i found a old version of magiclive
[16:21] <chris4585> yeah?
[16:21] <chibihogoshino> it works .. i just make a iso with it
[16:22] <chibihogoshino> have to remake. it has some problems with xfce4.8
[16:22] <chris4585> ah thats cool, no dpkg errors?
[16:22] <chris4585> what version was it?
[16:22] <chibihogoshino> one with /desktop or something but i got that before
[16:23] <chibihogoshino> does it have versions ?
[16:24] <chris4585> well, the older ones didn't really include one, but if it did, it would say at the very top of the magiclive file
[16:24] <chibihogoshino> 2008 ?
[16:25] <chibihogoshino> thats the copyright .. it dosnt have a version number
[16:25] <chris4585> alright
[16:28] <chibihogoshino> to old /
[16:28] <chibihogoshino> ?
[16:29] <cyberanger> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=74g3gnrvdvncgvgv4h0l4ejcv0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York
[16:29] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: ^
[16:32] <chibihogoshino> cool
[16:32] <chibihogoshino> how can i subscribe to that
[16:33] <cyberanger> uh, you can, lemme see how
[16:34] <chibihogoshino> n/m i got it
[16:35] <cyberanger> drat, google removed the ability to search for calendars
[16:40] <chibihogoshino> hmm..  i wonder if it will update
[16:42] <chibihogoshino> jschwentker77@gmail.com
[16:43] <chibihogoshino> now im gonna get spam..
[16:48] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: I PM'd you for a reason
[16:48] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[16:48] <cyberanger> whoops
[16:49] <chibihogoshino> i had the setting off to open a new tab ..
[16:49] <chibihogoshino> lol
[16:50] <cyberanger> ouch
[16:50] <chibihogoshino> it just looks like a regular message in the channel
[16:50] <cyberanger> it's giving me an error on saving changes
[16:50] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[16:50] <cyberanger> so I assume you added it already
[16:50] <chibihogoshino> i subscribed tho
[16:53] <cyberanger> that works
[16:54] <cyberanger> I just can't have you edit (which might have been nice down the road, your in knoxville, no leader is as often)
[16:54] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[16:58] <chibihogoshino> should be a option for it.. i dont know why they would exclude that from the cal when its in every thing else
[17:00] <chibihogoshino> maybe it has to be a group
[17:00] <chibihogoshino> http://groups.google.com/   ?
[17:01] <cyberanger> oh, it's cause you already have it in your public calendars
[17:02] <cyberanger> different method, same id, public acl
[17:02] <cyberanger> the reason for the addy was the other method, with the acl
[17:02] <chibihogoshino> you cant change the permissions because of that ?
[17:05] <cyberanger> seems
[17:05] <cyberanger> that's for another day
[17:06] <cyberanger> you can see a poorly maintained calendar, we're good
[17:06] <chibihogoshino> :-)
[17:14] <chibihogoshino> wow.. i thought it was 3 something till just now
[19:06] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: you mean the time?
[19:06] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[19:07] <cyberanger> ah, yeah it's an extremely nice day outside, easy to mixup with how many clouds we had lately
[19:07] <chibihogoshino> heh
[19:07] <cyberanger> perfect day to ........uh......go outside and ........................... chat on IRC?
[19:08] <chibihogoshino> if my battery would last for more than 5 min i would.. :-)
[19:09]  * cyberanger hands chibihogoshino a better battery, perhaps a smartphone to go with it
[19:09] <chibihogoshino> i was just thinking about that.. it would be nice to go to the park and sit under a tree
[19:10] <cyberanger> I wish it was april, with this kind of day
[19:11] <cyberanger> perfect to go jump in some river, or the great lakes
[19:11] <chibihogoshino> water proof a laptop ?
[19:12] <cyberanger> well, I hadn't thought that far, but I could waterproof a smartphone, celluar data
[19:12] <chibihogoshino> irc under water .. bet that has never been done
[19:13] <cyberanger> would want it to be an iphone or a G1 something cheap and easy to forget about (you don't replace an iphone, already have something better than a G1)
[19:14] <cyberanger> yeah, not by many at least
[19:15] <cyberanger> I thought it'd be cool to be the only one with internet at mt. leconte, then I found out that area has great coverage from everybody, kinda a buzzkill
[19:15] <chibihogoshino> that sucks
[19:15] <cyberanger> still makes me want to install a mesh node or two, for the fun of it
[19:15] <chibihogoshino> and dosnt suck for the coverage
[19:16] <cyberanger> 30 miles or so for one link
[19:16] <cyberanger> a little shy of 5 for the 2nd
[19:16] <chibihogoshino> that would be cool
[19:16] <cyberanger> then I can tie it into my folks here
[19:16] <cyberanger> solar powered
[19:16] <cyberanger> I did the 5 mile link
[19:17] <chibihogoshino> how did it turn out
[19:17] <chibihogoshino> brb
[19:17] <cyberanger> and a smaller link in chattanooga (but was the first with actual traffic, proving it's worth)
[19:18] <cyberanger> it turned out quite well, aiming wasn't ideal the first time (fixed that down the road)
[19:32] <cyberanger> heh
[19:37] <chibihogoshino> nice
[19:37] <chibihogoshino> how much packet loss ?
[19:39] <cyberanger> line of sight, aimed accurately, minimal
[19:40] <cyberanger> as close to /dev/null as you can get
[19:54] <chibihogoshino> what kind of antenna did you use ?
[20:03] <cyberanger> .74 meter satellite dishes modded with a cantenna, more or less
[20:03] <cyberanger> for 5 miles it wasn't an issue, but I've since upgraded to a yagi
[20:03] <cyberanger> one end is rp-sma, one is an N-Connector
[20:04] <chibihogoshino> did you build them ?
[20:04] <cyberanger> two Dishes, yes, yagi, no
[20:04] <cyberanger> tweaked them, minor
[20:05] <cyberanger> I could build them, yagi's are simple
[20:06] <cyberanger> but went with a higher quality than I think I could have done, but a higher price
[20:07] <chibihogoshino> ah
[20:08] <cyberanger> considering the 30 mile leg is gonna be different, and I gotta hike to both sites for that link, mt. leconte isn't a nice hike if you really over pack
[20:08] <cyberanger> it was worth the cost for high grade lightweight aluminum
[20:09] <cyberanger> and Alcoa didn't mind it
[20:09] <chibihogoshino> are they still up ?
[20:10] <cyberanger> I have yet to even try the 30 mile link (not an issue, I know they'll work)
[20:10] <cyberanger> but in spirit of pack it in pack it out, they're down
[20:10] <chibihogoshino> oh
[20:17] <cyberanger> I can have the node from here pointing at look rock up in under 5 minutes
[20:17] <cyberanger> but I've not been to look rock since before my car wreak, and could get permission to perm. mount that, I think
[20:18] <cyberanger> the Mt. Leconte node would have to be seasonal, or something
[20:18] <cyberanger> winter is just too much for operating conditions
[20:20] <cyberanger> maybe something meant to be outdoors full time
[20:26] <chibihogoshino> were did you mount it ?
[20:36] <cyberanger> do you know where mt. leconte is? or look rock (if not, that's fine, I've got a map too)
[20:42] <chibihogoshino> no
[20:42] <chibihogoshino> i was wondering if you could put the antenna on a tree and then put a roof over it so it would be ok in the winter
[20:44] <cyberanger> not too ideal, and the antenna could be wet
[20:44] <cyberanger> as long as the other parts are dry, warm, not too warm
[20:45] <chibihogoshino> if it was covered enough and enclosed in a thing it would be ok
[20:49] <cyberanger> tempature gets low at Mt. Leconte
[20:49] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[20:49] <cyberanger> solar panel, car battery, mesh node
[20:50] <cyberanger> solar panel won't care, carbattery must vent, but works porrly in cold, summers get hot, not above specs, but not ideal
[20:50] <cyberanger> but in winter, gets cold, below specs
[20:51] <chibihogoshino> bury the battery in the ground
[20:54] <cyberanger> not in a national park, no way
[20:54] <chibihogoshino> i think something like 6 feet it stays warm
[20:55] <chibihogoshino> oh
[20:55] <chibihogoshino> lol
[20:56] <cyberanger> besides, Sealed Lead Batteries need to vent
[20:57] <chibihogoshino> straws
[20:57] <chibihogoshino> or a hose
[20:57] <cyberanger> and that may work for the Mesh node, perhaps
[20:58] <cyberanger> defeats the benifit of burying it, as moisture seeps in via the air, gets heated and trapped
[20:58] <cyberanger> and the depth is 6 feet for a courpse, smell seals there
[20:58] <cyberanger> for the frost line, little shallow due to tennessee clay
[20:59] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[20:59] <chibihogoshino> use a one way trap for the water and cover the top of the hose
[21:01] <cyberanger> still the issue of digging in a national park, the other two nodes aren't as bad, and I could heat a few different ways
[21:01] <cyberanger> look rock has ham radio gear and the air quality station, I can work with that
[21:02] <cyberanger> the gateway node is equally simplistic
[21:02] <chibihogoshino> maybe they will let you put it up if you ask
[21:03] <cyberanger> which, look rock or leconte?
[21:03] <chibihogoshino> leconte
[21:04] <cyberanger> can't be permenant, that's key
[21:05] <cyberanger> I think they'd let me set it while I'm there, perhaps even for a season
[21:05] <cyberanger> between the business and the park, doable, got a goram nightmare in buracacy
[21:06] <chibihogoshino> make the wires look like vines and the node like a birds nest
[21:09] <cyberanger> and the antenna
[21:09] <chibihogoshino> a branch
[21:10] <cyberanger> I'd rather they told me no, then go behind them in this manner
[21:10] <chibihogoshino> i was just thinking how to make it blend into the surroundings ..
[21:12] <chibihogoshino> ohio has some cell towers that look like pine trees .. if your not looking for them you would never notice it.
[21:19] <cyberanger> well, that's discrete
[21:19] <cyberanger> still want permission
[21:19] <chibihogoshino> yeah ..
[21:21] <cyberanger> if they say yes, but be discreet, got that covered
[21:22] <cyberanger> just can't dig, or damage any wildlife
[21:25] <chibihogoshino> hmm..
[21:48] <cyberanger> yeah historic site, national park, so on, so on, so on
[23:10] <chibihogoshino> i think you typed that wrong... its pot_plant
[23:35] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: you pissed him off and left
[23:35] <cyberanger> shame
[23:35] <chibihogoshino> lol
[23:36] <techMiles> lol...
[23:37] <chibihogoshino> guess he dont like plants that much
[23:38] <cyberanger> well, at least 7 leaf ones
[23:38] <chibihogoshino>  maybe he makes pots for plants .. taking the pot away from the plant would piss him off i guess.
[23:41] <techMiles> lol.