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| shanttu | Hello. Could someone help to configure my settings so that I should not force-reload alsa every single time on login to get sound working. I have an USB-soundcard. | 11:47 |
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| === peregrinator_six is now known as dial_up_br | ||
| doodie | panning in Ardour on Stereo Tracks doesn't seem to work | 15:04 |
| doodie | [solved] | 15:22 |
| holstein | shanttu: hey | 15:45 |
| holstein | elaborate on your issue if you will | 15:46 |
| shanttu | holstein hello | 15:46 |
| shanttu | holstein everytime I login, sound is muted. I check alsamixer and I only see pcm and it's good. When I reload Alsa sound works again. | 15:47 |
| holstein | shanttu: how about if the USB device is not plugged in? | 15:48 |
| holstein | everything is normal? | 15:48 |
| shanttu | holsteinholstein I have disabled internal card from pavucontrol because I don't need it | 15:49 |
| holstein | how about in the bios? | 15:50 |
| holstein | can you disable the internal card there? | 15:50 |
| shanttu | I guess it's possible, but I need that with Traktor when using Windows, so I want that to be the last option | 15:51 |
| holstein | well, maybe just as a trouble-shooting step | 15:51 |
| holstein | when you login and its broken | 15:51 |
| holstein | before reloading alsa | 15:51 |
| holstein | run in a terminal | 15:51 |
| holstein | aplay -l | 15:52 |
| holstein | and | 15:52 |
| holstein | arecord -l | 15:52 |
| holstein | see if you see any device at all | 15:52 |
| holstein | what USB device? | 15:52 |
| shanttu | it is there, I know | 15:52 |
| holstein | what is where? | 15:53 |
| shanttu | holstein: card is Emagic Emi 2 6, works fine | 15:53 |
| shanttu | the udb-card is recognized on startup | 15:54 |
| holstein | so, whats the problem? | 15:54 |
| shanttu | Problem is that I cannot get any sound without force-reloading alsa every single time I reboot | 15:55 |
| der_On | hi there | 15:55 |
| holstein | shanttu: OK, so its not 'fine' then | 15:55 |
| holstein | shanttu: how about, if you start the machine | 15:55 |
| holstein | login | 15:55 |
| holstein | THEN plug the USB device? | 15:55 |
| holstein | does that work as expected? | 15:55 |
| holstein | or do you need to force-reload ? | 15:56 |
| holstein | der_On: o/ | 15:56 |
| holstein | shanttu: there is a few cases when i use alsa force-reload | 15:57 |
| holstein | i have an EEEpc 1001p | 15:57 |
| holstein | and when i want to run JACK | 15:57 |
| der_On | I've just installed a fresh ubuntu studio maverick and let the update manager update all stuff (so I moved to a new kernel) and wanted to try to start jack but as soon as I open JackQtrl it says this: | 15:57 |
| der_On | Cannot connect to server socket err = Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started | 15:57 |
| holstein | usually, i would say 8 times out of 10 | 15:58 |
| holstein | JACK wont start | 15:58 |
| shanttu | holstein I'll try reboot without card plugged in | 15:58 |
| holstein | im assuming because something is holding onto the internal sound card | 15:58 |
| holstein | so, when i want to start JACK | 15:58 |
| holstein | i reload alsa | 15:59 |
| holstein | der_On: jack server is running | 15:59 |
| der_On | holstein: is that a question? | 16:00 |
| holstein | der_On: nope ;) | 16:00 |
| holstein | thats what the error message is telling us | 16:00 |
| holstein | der_On: jack server is not running * | 16:00 |
| holstein | sorry | 16:00 |
| holstein | der_On: try closing that | 16:01 |
| holstein | that = jack control | 16:01 |
| holstein | and run | 16:01 |
| holstein | sudo qjackctl | 16:01 |
| holstein | from a terminal | 16:01 |
| holstein | der_On: and tell me if JACK starts | 16:01 |
| der_On | Home directory /home/soundstudio not ours. Cannot connect to server socket err = Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started | 16:02 |
| holstein | der_On: thats as root? | 16:03 |
| der_On | But qjackctl will start jack if I press "start" or not? | 16:03 |
| holstein | der_On: does it? | 16:03 |
| der_On | holstein: yes as root | 16:03 |
| holstein | you have to press start for JACK to start | 16:03 |
| holstein | and the 'messages' window | 16:03 |
| holstein | can have a log of old stuff | 16:03 |
| holstein | der_On: SO, just to be clear | 16:03 |
| holstein | when you run, sudo qjackctl | 16:04 |
| holstein | JACK will start? | 16:04 |
| holstein | when you hit the start button? | 16:04 |
| holstein | shanttu: whats the word? | 16:05 |
| holstein | the good word :) | 16:05 |
| shanttu | holstein: no sound I attach the USB-device after reboot. PCM is set to zero. | 16:05 |
| der_On | holstein: ok jack starts after I hit "start", also it can't find artsshell.sh | 16:06 |
| holstein | der_On: thats how it works | 16:06 |
| holstein | you have to hit the start button | 16:06 |
| holstein | jack control is just a gui | 16:06 |
| holstein | a front end | 16:06 |
| holstein | launching jack control allows you to set up JACK and your sound device | 16:07 |
| holstein | and start JACK | 16:07 |
| holstein | der_On: so, stop JACK | 16:07 |
| holstein | close the jack control running as root | 16:07 |
| holstein | and open jack control as normal user | 16:07 |
| holstein | and try again | 16:07 |
| holstein | shanttu: where is PCM set to zero? | 16:08 |
| holstein | and what does that mean? | 16:08 |
| holstein | in alsamixer? | 16:08 |
| shanttu | Alsamixer yes | 16:08 |
| der_On | holstein: did that already as normal user. sorry I was just iritated, saying this "error" right after I start qjackctl | 16:08 |
| holstein | der_On: ok, so, as root it starts, but as normal user it doesnt right? | 16:09 |
| der_On | holstein: But I've got another problem. I have a UA25-EX and want it to use in duplex mode with jack. That's causing trouble | 16:09 |
| shanttu | holstein: And it does not go up when I use pg up, arrows or amixer -c 1 -- sset PCM playback -12.21dB | 16:09 |
| der_On | holstein: it does start as normal user | 16:09 |
| holstein | der_On: cool :) | 16:09 |
| holstein | so you are good to go then | 16:09 |
| holstein | guitarman has one of those interfaces | 16:09 |
| holstein | if you can catch him over in #opensourcemusicians | 16:10 |
| der_On | guitarman: your're there? | 16:10 |
| der_On | Ah yes. he's there often | 16:10 |
| holstein | shanttu: so, you run alsamixer | 16:10 |
| holstein | and you see the device there | 16:10 |
| holstein | but, cant control it | 16:10 |
| holstein | til you force-restart alsa | 16:11 |
| holstein | and that has happened both with the device plugged at boot, and plugged after login | 16:11 |
| holstein | that sound about right? | 16:11 |
| shanttu | holstein: that is right. I have ran "amixer sset PCM playback X db" -command on startup to get the volume correct. I ran that for device 0 and 1 | 16:13 |
| shanttu | because the default changes | 16:13 |
| holstein | shanttu: any other startup scripts ? | 16:14 |
| shanttu | nope | 16:14 |
| shanttu | and I have used those only for a couple of days | 16:15 |
| holstein | shanttu: i dont see that listed at alsa-project.org | 16:18 |
| holstein | http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Emagic | 16:18 |
| holstein | seems like that might be the best you can get with that device | 16:18 |
| shanttu | hmm | 16:19 |
| holstein | you can always try upgrading alsa | 16:19 |
| holstein | any of these helpful | 16:20 |
| holstein | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2009-January/003796.html | 16:20 |
| holstein | shanttu: how about JACK? | 16:20 |
| shanttu | holstein: I find this weird because it has worked well without this problem. I just thought it is about some settings I do not know about. | 16:20 |
| holstein | does jack grab and use it? | 16:20 |
| shanttu | I have succesfully tried Jack with it | 16:20 |
| holstein | shanttu: you mean, it has worked well without this problem in previous buntu versions? | 16:21 |
| shanttu | holstein: I mean this mute on startup is the only problem. I have used Linux on my main machine only for a couple of months. | 16:23 |
| shanttu | holstein: So I have not tested it with earlier Ubuntu releases. | 16:23 |
| holstein | shanttu: well, its more than mute correct? | 16:24 |
| holstein | you cant just 'unmute' or volume up | 16:25 |
| holstein | you have to reload alsa | 16:25 |
| holstein | correct? | 16:25 |
| shanttu | holstein:because of those commands I run on startup volume in Alsamixer (PCM) is on right level. Right now it does not respond to keyboard or volume terminal commands | 16:26 |
| shanttu | holstein:I have not reloaded alsa yet after last reboot | 16:27 |
| holstein | shanttu: but, its not working correct? | 16:27 |
| shanttu | holstein: at the moment mute | 16:28 |
| holstein | shanttu: i would say, file a bug | 16:28 |
| holstein | and maybe try and find an alsa guy to look into it | 16:28 |
| holstein | not sure how far you're going to get though | 16:28 |
| holstein | i think you should consider that a 'work-around' | 16:29 |
| holstein | and just go with it :) | 16:29 |
| shanttu | ok. thanks for your help. If I just could run it as normal user I would add an applet to panel =) | 16:30 |
| shanttu | holstein: I mean the force-reload | 16:31 |
| holstein | shanttu: i have the same thing going on | 16:31 |
| holstein | i was thinking a permissions change | 16:31 |
| holstein | and that could run as a script | 16:31 |
| shanttu | holstein: exactly | 16:32 |
| holstein | but, i don use JACK on this machine often enough to bother with it | 16:32 |
| holstein | so, i have a little icon somewhere i click on | 16:32 |
| holstein | shanttu: IF you are comfortable with your user being in the sudo group? | 16:32 |
| holstein | a sudoer or whatever | 16:32 |
| holstein | i have a friend that does that with buntu out of the box | 16:33 |
| holstein | so he is not prompted for passwords | 16:33 |
| holstein | personally, i appreciate the sanity check :) | 16:33 |
| shanttu | holstein: same here. As a n00b I am afraid of just copy-pasteing stuff and hups | 16:34 |
| holstein | shanttu: you can check in #opensourcemusicians as well | 16:35 |
| holstein | see if anyone has that device | 16:35 |
| holstein | i havnet heard of anyone with it before though | 16:35 |
| shanttu | I have googled around and some people uses it. It is an excellent device. Very natural sound, it does not have that "digital" atmosphere | 16:37 |
| shanttu | Apple bought the company and did not update drivers since 2004 or something. | 16:38 |
| holstein | i had ruled out some card like that | 16:42 |
| holstein | because of the unbalanced in's | 16:42 |
| holstein | good price though i bet | 16:42 |
| shanttu | These cost 400$ when released, now on ebay 10$ | 16:56 |
| shanttu | An excellent deal for Linux-users | 16:56 |
| S2Do | Anyone running UbuStudio on asus netbook? | 19:12 |
| holstein | S2Do: i dont have an ubuntustudio install on either of my asus netbooks right now | 19:12 |
| holstein | but i have in the past | 19:12 |
| holstein | and i am running studio packages on both | 19:13 |
| S2Do | holstein, how's the performance? | 19:13 |
| S2Do | I'm looking at buying one | 19:14 |
| holstein | well, dont buy a netbook for your main audio production machine | 19:14 |
| holstein | i use an HP mininote | 19:15 |
| holstein | one of the early ones | 19:15 |
| holstein | with an express card slot | 19:15 |
| holstein | so that i can track in the field with my presonus firepod | 19:15 |
| holstein | the screen is too cramped for me to want to do anything more on it | 19:15 |
| holstein | can you do it on a netbook ? | 19:15 |
| holstein | sure | 19:15 |
| holstein | depends on what audio device you have too | 19:16 |
| === frederickjh is now known as fredericjh_away | ||
| S2Do | I'm looking to buy a second hand netbook for regular tasks (communication, reading, office) and I just tought it would be nice to install UbuSt. on it. | 19:20 |
| holstein | well, you dont install ubuntustudio on it | 19:20 |
| holstein | just add what you need | 19:21 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio-audio | 19:21 |
| holstein | ubuntustudio-audio-plugins | 19:21 |
| holstein | i mean, do what you want | 19:21 |
| holstein | but, if the main goal is a normal desktop | 19:21 |
| holstein | the ubuntustudio tweaks will probably just piss you off more than anything else | 19:21 |
| S2Do | To be more specific... I'll be on hollidays for a few weeks and I'd like to take some of my ardour projects with me in this laptop and be able to do some editing (not mixing). Would that be possible? | 19:25 |
| S2Do | What's up with the ubuntu studio tweeks? | 19:25 |
| holstein | S2Do: should be plausible | 19:26 |
| holstein | assuming you can tweak the latency a bit | 19:26 |
| holstein | and find a kernel that works for you | 19:26 |
| holstein | S2Do: well, in ubuntustudio | 19:27 |
| holstein | the gnome network manager | 19:27 |
| holstein | that makes it so easy to connect to wifi networks | 19:27 |
| holstein | thats not installed | 19:27 |
| S2Do | I'm running UbuSt. on an old thinkpad (1GB Ram, Pentium M 1.4Ghz ) and the performance is decent. But not sure about the Asus processors. | 19:28 |
| S2Do | no problem about the wirelesss, I can activate that mannualy | 19:28 |
| holstein | mine is 1.6 | 19:28 |
| holstein | atom | 19:28 |
| holstein | the sound card is not great | 19:28 |
| holstein | with JACK | 19:29 |
| S2Do | I've noticed most of them come with that processor. What model have you got? | 19:30 |
| holstein | 1001p | 19:31 |
| holstein | the wifi doesnt work with my current -lowlatency kernel | 19:31 |
| holstein | im sure the ones in maverick will be fine | 19:32 |
| S2Do | I got Abogani's realtime kernel on the thinkpad and it does wonders. I get a latency of 4ms wich is fine for a solo musician :) | 19:41 |
| holstein | yeah, i dont get wifi with that kernel | 19:41 |
| holstein | on this device | 19:41 |
| holstein | wifi, and the sound card | 19:42 |
| S2Do | I would switch the wifi off when recording anyway. | 19:42 |
| holstein | i use that kernel on my production machine though | 19:42 |
| holstein | S2Do: me too, accept, in the field, i sometimes want to stream | 19:43 |
| S2Do | hehe | 19:44 |
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