=== peregrinator_six is now known as dial_up_br [11:47] Hello. Could someone help to configure my settings so that I should not force-reload alsa every single time on login to get sound working. I have an USB-soundcard. === peregrinator_six is now known as dial_up_br [15:04] panning in Ardour on Stereo Tracks doesn't seem to work [15:22] [solved] [15:45] shanttu: hey [15:46] elaborate on your issue if you will [15:46] holstein hello [15:47] holstein everytime I login, sound is muted. I check alsamixer and I only see pcm and it's good. When I reload Alsa sound works again. [15:48] shanttu: how about if the USB device is not plugged in? [15:48] everything is normal? [15:49] holsteinholstein I have disabled internal card from pavucontrol because I don't need it [15:50] how about in the bios? [15:50] can you disable the internal card there? [15:51] I guess it's possible, but I need that with Traktor when using Windows, so I want that to be the last option [15:51] well, maybe just as a trouble-shooting step [15:51] when you login and its broken [15:51] before reloading alsa [15:51] run in a terminal [15:52] aplay -l [15:52] and [15:52] arecord -l [15:52] see if you see any device at all [15:52] what USB device? [15:52] it is there, I know [15:53] what is where? [15:53] holstein: card is Emagic Emi 2 6, works fine [15:54] the udb-card is recognized on startup [15:54] so, whats the problem? [15:55] Problem is that I cannot get any sound without force-reloading alsa every single time I reboot [15:55] hi there [15:55] shanttu: OK, so its not 'fine' then [15:55] shanttu: how about, if you start the machine [15:55] login [15:55] THEN plug the USB device? [15:55] does that work as expected? [15:56] or do you need to force-reload ? [15:56] der_On: o/ [15:57] shanttu: there is a few cases when i use alsa force-reload [15:57] i have an EEEpc 1001p [15:57] and when i want to run JACK [15:57] I've just installed a fresh ubuntu studio maverick and let the update manager update all stuff (so I moved to a new kernel) and wanted to try to start jack but as soon as I open JackQtrl it says this: [15:57] Cannot connect to server socket err = Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started [15:58] usually, i would say 8 times out of 10 [15:58] JACK wont start [15:58] holstein I'll try reboot without card plugged in [15:58] im assuming because something is holding onto the internal sound card [15:58] so, when i want to start JACK [15:59] i reload alsa [15:59] der_On: jack server is running [16:00] holstein: is that a question? [16:00] der_On: nope ;) [16:00] thats what the error message is telling us [16:00] der_On: jack server is not running * [16:00] sorry [16:01] der_On: try closing that [16:01] that = jack control [16:01] and run [16:01] sudo qjackctl [16:01] from a terminal [16:01] der_On: and tell me if JACK starts [16:02] Home directory /home/soundstudio not ours. Cannot connect to server socket err = Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started [16:03] der_On: thats as root? [16:03] But qjackctl will start jack if I press "start" or not? [16:03] der_On: does it? [16:03] holstein: yes as root [16:03] you have to press start for JACK to start [16:03] and the 'messages' window [16:03] can have a log of old stuff [16:03] der_On: SO, just to be clear [16:04] when you run, sudo qjackctl [16:04] JACK will start? [16:04] when you hit the start button? [16:05] shanttu: whats the word? [16:05] the good word :) [16:05] holstein: no sound I attach the USB-device after reboot. PCM is set to zero. [16:06] holstein: ok jack starts after I hit "start", also it can't find artsshell.sh [16:06] der_On: thats how it works [16:06] you have to hit the start button [16:06] jack control is just a gui [16:06] a front end [16:07] launching jack control allows you to set up JACK and your sound device [16:07] and start JACK [16:07] der_On: so, stop JACK [16:07] close the jack control running as root [16:07] and open jack control as normal user [16:07] and try again [16:08] shanttu: where is PCM set to zero? [16:08] and what does that mean? [16:08] in alsamixer? [16:08] Alsamixer yes [16:08] holstein: did that already as normal user. sorry I was just iritated, saying this "error" right after I start qjackctl [16:09] der_On: ok, so, as root it starts, but as normal user it doesnt right? [16:09] holstein: But I've got another problem. I have a UA25-EX and want it to use in duplex mode with jack. That's causing trouble [16:09] holstein: And it does not go up when I use pg up, arrows or amixer -c 1 -- sset PCM playback -12.21dB [16:09] holstein: it does start as normal user [16:09] der_On: cool :) [16:09] so you are good to go then [16:09] guitarman has one of those interfaces [16:10] if you can catch him over in #opensourcemusicians [16:10] guitarman: your're there? [16:10] Ah yes. he's there often [16:10] shanttu: so, you run alsamixer [16:10] and you see the device there [16:10] but, cant control it [16:11] til you force-restart alsa [16:11] and that has happened both with the device plugged at boot, and plugged after login [16:11] that sound about right? [16:13] holstein: that is right. I have ran "amixer sset PCM playback X db" -command on startup to get the volume correct. I ran that for device 0 and 1 [16:13] because the default changes [16:14] shanttu: any other startup scripts ? [16:14] nope [16:15] and I have used those only for a couple of days [16:18] shanttu: i dont see that listed at alsa-project.org [16:18] http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Emagic [16:18] seems like that might be the best you can get with that device [16:19] hmm [16:19] you can always try upgrading alsa [16:20] any of these helpful [16:20] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2009-January/003796.html [16:20] shanttu: how about JACK? [16:20] holstein: I find this weird because it has worked well without this problem. I just thought it is about some settings I do not know about. [16:20] does jack grab and use it? [16:20] I have succesfully tried Jack with it [16:21] shanttu: you mean, it has worked well without this problem in previous buntu versions? [16:23] holstein: I mean this mute on startup is the only problem. I have used Linux on my main machine only for a couple of months. [16:23] holstein: So I have not tested it with earlier Ubuntu releases. [16:24] shanttu: well, its more than mute correct? [16:25] you cant just 'unmute' or volume up [16:25] you have to reload alsa [16:25] correct? [16:26] holstein:because of those commands I run on startup volume in Alsamixer (PCM) is on right level. Right now it does not respond to keyboard or volume terminal commands [16:27] holstein:I have not reloaded alsa yet after last reboot [16:27] shanttu: but, its not working correct? [16:28] holstein: at the moment mute [16:28] shanttu: i would say, file a bug [16:28] and maybe try and find an alsa guy to look into it [16:28] not sure how far you're going to get though [16:29] i think you should consider that a 'work-around' [16:29] and just go with it :) [16:30] ok. thanks for your help. If I just could run it as normal user I would add an applet to panel =) [16:31] holstein: I mean the force-reload [16:31] shanttu: i have the same thing going on [16:31] i was thinking a permissions change [16:31] and that could run as a script [16:32] holstein: exactly [16:32] but, i don use JACK on this machine often enough to bother with it [16:32] so, i have a little icon somewhere i click on [16:32] shanttu: IF you are comfortable with your user being in the sudo group? [16:32] a sudoer or whatever [16:33] i have a friend that does that with buntu out of the box [16:33] so he is not prompted for passwords [16:33] personally, i appreciate the sanity check :) [16:34] holstein: same here. As a n00b I am afraid of just copy-pasteing stuff and hups [16:35] shanttu: you can check in #opensourcemusicians as well [16:35] see if anyone has that device [16:35] i havnet heard of anyone with it before though [16:37] I have googled around and some people uses it. It is an excellent device. Very natural sound, it does not have that "digital" atmosphere [16:38] Apple bought the company and did not update drivers since 2004 or something. [16:42] i had ruled out some card like that [16:42] because of the unbalanced in's [16:42] good price though i bet [16:56] These cost 400$ when released, now on ebay 10$ [16:56] An excellent deal for Linux-users [19:12] Anyone running UbuStudio on asus netbook? [19:12] S2Do: i dont have an ubuntustudio install on either of my asus netbooks right now [19:12] but i have in the past [19:13] and i am running studio packages on both [19:13] holstein, how's the performance? [19:14] I'm looking at buying one [19:14] well, dont buy a netbook for your main audio production machine [19:15] i use an HP mininote [19:15] one of the early ones [19:15] with an express card slot [19:15] so that i can track in the field with my presonus firepod [19:15] the screen is too cramped for me to want to do anything more on it [19:15] can you do it on a netbook ? [19:15] sure [19:16] depends on what audio device you have too === frederickjh is now known as fredericjh_away [19:20] I'm looking to buy a second hand netbook for regular tasks (communication, reading, office) and I just tought it would be nice to install UbuSt. on it. [19:20] well, you dont install ubuntustudio on it [19:21] just add what you need [19:21] ubuntustudio-audio [19:21] ubuntustudio-audio-plugins [19:21] i mean, do what you want [19:21] but, if the main goal is a normal desktop [19:21] the ubuntustudio tweaks will probably just piss you off more than anything else [19:25] To be more specific... I'll be on hollidays for a few weeks and I'd like to take some of my ardour projects with me in this laptop and be able to do some editing (not mixing). Would that be possible? [19:25] What's up with the ubuntu studio tweeks? [19:26] S2Do: should be plausible [19:26] assuming you can tweak the latency a bit [19:26] and find a kernel that works for you [19:27] S2Do: well, in ubuntustudio [19:27] the gnome network manager [19:27] that makes it so easy to connect to wifi networks [19:27] thats not installed [19:28] I'm running UbuSt. on an old thinkpad (1GB Ram, Pentium M 1.4Ghz ) and the performance is decent. But not sure about the Asus processors. [19:28] no problem about the wirelesss, I can activate that mannualy [19:28] mine is 1.6 [19:28] atom [19:28] the sound card is not great [19:29] with JACK [19:30] I've noticed most of them come with that processor. What model have you got? [19:31] 1001p [19:31] the wifi doesnt work with my current -lowlatency kernel [19:32] im sure the ones in maverick will be fine [19:41] I got Abogani's realtime kernel on the thinkpad and it does wonders. I get a latency of 4ms wich is fine for a solo musician :) [19:41] yeah, i dont get wifi with that kernel [19:41] on this device [19:42] wifi, and the sound card [19:42] I would switch the wifi off when recording anyway. [19:42] i use that kernel on my production machine though [19:43] S2Do: me too, accept, in the field, i sometimes want to stream [19:44] hehe