=== charles is now known as Guest39994 [00:08] tried a new mic ? [00:10] nobody, if you don't have another mic to try, you can plug some earphones into the mic plug, and try those as mics [00:10] crappy, but will work for a test === tchangang is now known as tta [00:13] anybody to help me [00:15] what's the argument for selected file name? (as I know %U used for full file path) [00:16] Hi! [00:19] !ask |tta [00:19] tta: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [00:22] hi, does anyone know how to make the kde desktop behave more like windows/gnome, where you can put icons on it? [00:23] or can anyone point me in the right direction [00:24] ubottu:ok excuse me. i download ubuntu 10.10 in iso xtn like i said, i extracted it and i burned it but it still be no bootable. how can i do now? [00:24] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:25] Kazilla: right-click on your desktop > desktop settings: Folder View [00:26] mucho love valorie , i give internet kiss [00:26] * Kazilla chucks internet kiss at valorie [00:27] glad i could help! [00:27] mbnoimi: the argument that you was asking for is : This is my second visit to this chat. The first visit was very pleasant. That`s why I am here again.... ;) [00:30] In the first instance I was looking for a german chat... ;) [00:32] ah ah ah here is kubuntu or ubuntu chat , feel free [00:33] I do :) [00:34] I have Kubuntu installed beside Kanotix... [00:35] !de [00:35] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [00:35] :-) [00:35] you can be in more than one channel at a time [00:35] This one is okay for me... [00:36] ;) [00:37] valorie:there is one in french? [00:37] hmm, when i restarted the desktop has some kind or border running halfway though it now... [00:37] !fr [00:37] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [00:37] !fr [00:38] lol, Pici [00:38] valorie: :) [00:38] as you can see, anyone can query the bot [00:38] We have many localized channels, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList for more [00:39] french and english are enough for me [00:42] Are you all Kubuntu users? Here in the chat, I mean... ? [00:43] naw i'm here for the windows questions [00:43] :D [00:43] lol [00:45] No Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and the like? [00:46] well i have a problem with kde desktop so im here [00:46] if it was with a ubuntu package probably go #ubuntu or forum [00:47] Okay.... I am just finding my way.... ;) [00:48] I installed Kubuntu recently, but I have no problems with it yet.............. [00:49] yeah i manage webservers but thinking of using ubuntu as my desktop [00:50] but need some basics ironing out before i do [00:50] there is also a #kde channel for KDE-specific questions [00:52] I installed Kubuntu beside Kanotix as an exercise... it was not very much an exercise since it was so easy... It was a piece of cake so to say... [00:52] Kubuntu is quite pleasant.... [00:53] which version do you have? [00:53] 10.10 [00:54] yes leave a nice gloss candy taste in my mouth when i lick the screen [00:54] yuck! [00:54] tastes like peppermint [00:55] lol [00:57] tta ? [01:00] hmm folder view seems to be working ok for me now after restart [01:00] a bit wierd though it showed a wird box [01:00] maybe vmware problem [01:01] wat nu: i still be present is just that i am doing something else [01:02] tta: Why did you ask for the version? Anything I should be made aware of? [01:02] tta: ok. === Guest690000 is now known as Ubuntux [01:03] tta: ;) [01:04] i ask for the version to know where i can find the update file of the version 9.10 that i have [01:05] isn't that done just by apt-get dist-upgrade? [01:06] I am too unexperient for answering this... [01:07] no problem [01:07] :) [01:08] tta: via Kpackagekit? [01:09] that should do it as well [01:09] kpackagekit is kubuntus aptitude i believe === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [01:10] New install is always better, i believe.... [01:10] I use apt-get..... [01:11] yeah its good to have the repository [01:11] windows should have one lol [01:12] I am used to apt-get, better with synaptic... [01:12] Anyone know how you go about editing your own personal wiki page in Ubuntu? It's been a while and it seems things have changed [01:12] kkathman, do you mean mediawiki? [01:14] wat nu: to have a new version is difficult i am in africa and here the internet is very slow [01:14] oh the ubuntu-wiki - i havent used it [01:14] you have to create an account [01:15] and then just go for it [01:15] copy someone's page that you like, and use your info instead of theirs [01:17] thanks again - bye! [01:20] tta: I am sorry. In that case I cannot help you.... On the whole I am also very unexperient ..... I am so sorry.. :( [01:20] Hi all [01:20] what up? [01:21] Hi Golfgeo ! [01:21] Got a question... Looking to download the new kubuntu cd and while version 4.6 was anounced, it's not selectable on the download page... Am I wrong or just missing something? [01:22] 4.6 referrs to KDE as far as I know... [01:23] I finally got it edited :) I have a personal page, but it was way out of date :) [01:23] hmm... wikipedia mentions version 11.04 and I can only download version 10.10 [01:23] Ic Wat_Nu [01:23] 11.04 is in alpha still [01:23] ah :D [01:23] http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download [01:24] prominent focus on the release though... [01:24] but, oke, no new live cd for me for now haha [01:24] Thanks mates :-) [01:25] Golfgeo: ;) [01:25] feel free [01:34] my kubuntu 10.10 install is stuck at 66%, "running grug on /dev/sda", top shows 100% cpu of ubiquity for 15 minutes already [01:34] wt.F [01:34] grub* [01:34] what do I do? [01:34] and why the hell would it use 100% cpu for that long [01:35] does that mean my boot record is toast as well as the kubuntu install [01:35] hdd is on 100% all the time too... for 15 minutes [01:36] anyone of the 244 people here alive? [01:37] yep, but not had that problem, since I am addicted to lilo :-D [01:37] gtg too [01:38] how is that related to the kubuntu installer [01:38] Thanks mates and have fun! :-) [01:38] which never uses lilo anyway... [01:38] damn this installer.. just toasted my box [01:43] xorred: I am alive but I cannot help you. My Kubuntu 10.10 install went as easy as anything. Was your download okay, was the md5 sum okay? [01:44] it was stuck at writing grub [01:44] I doubt md5 would be th eissue [01:44] cd defect? [01:44] nope [01:44] well, it got to 66% [01:44] writing grub is like the final step [01:46] xorred: Sorry, I am not an expert, more likely a beginner... :( [01:49] It is nearly 2:50 am in Germany. It is time for me to repair to bed... gn8 everybody..... [01:50] All the best to everyone! ;) [01:50] it extracted my iso file how can i compress it back into iso [01:59] hi :) does anyone know how to type in a symbol? why doesn't crtl+alt+e and things like that work? [02:01] system>preference>keyboard shortcut ;) [02:02] tta: can that help my type symbols from the keyboard? in windows crtl+alt+e gives you an e with accute accent [02:04] guys, I'm at wits end [02:04] I need help [02:04] th reference that i gave you is to change the kubuntu short into your suitable own [02:04] I updated kubuntu using the ppa repos [02:04] on my girlfriend's machine [02:04] i am talking to jcgs [02:05] and [02:05] and now kdenetwork manager won't list any wireless networks in the plasma widget [02:05] or bother to connect [02:05] The same update on my laptop didn't result in any such problem [02:05] she's using ath5k drivers from what I can gather [02:05] sorry rufsketch1, this isn't msn, can you type everything as one line pls [02:06] jcgs: ah, sorry. [02:06] rufsketch1: thanks :) it gets confusing otherwise, and things disappear off the screen too quickly [02:07] he he he [02:07] you are rigth you know [02:08] So can anyone help? [02:08] tta: I've found "keyboard settings" but there doesn't seem to be much enlightening in there except "Shift with numeric keypad works as in ms windows" but i don't have a numeric keypad because i'm on a laptop :( [02:10] rufsketch1: this may not be what you want to hear, but the way i solved my general wireless malaise was to do a clean install [02:10] jcgs: that is very much not what I want to hear. [02:10] which laptop [02:10] the mark [02:11] rufsktech1: can you just remove the ppas and downgrade? presumably you've already tried that [02:11] hi, anyone knows how to restrat panel on kubuntu 10-10? [02:12] tta: toshiba satellite l300, but i'm not sure that's relevant, is it? [02:12] jcgs: sort of tried it [02:12] no but i am cofuse what is your os [02:12] aleiex: could you elaborate a little bit, what do you mean by "restart panel"? [02:12] I tried to manually remove the ppas but it didn't seem to care [02:12] tta: kubuntu 10.10 [02:13] is there a command to remove the ppas? [02:14] rufsketch1: have you looked for them in the software sources are of the add/remove software in system settings? [02:14] jcgs: yes, that's the thing that didn't work. Which is why I was wondering if there was a command [02:16] rufsketch1: try poking around in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* you'll have to remove them in a text editor [02:17] rufsketch1: you could do: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list [02:17] some command in windows will not in kubuntu so if you are not able to change your command with your keyboard try the visual keyboardof kubuntu [02:18] tta: that's really slow though, I'm sure there must be a way to do this, someone must have thought of it, surely [02:23] tta: I think I've got it, setting "compose key position" to "right alt" has worked a charm :) [02:26] tta: actually, I've decided that "menu" is a better choice, since typing euro works as normal :) [02:26] jcgs:excuse me for that interruption i have some problem with my gsm modem [02:26] tta: no worries :) [02:27] sorry chaps, I've got to get up early in the morning (well early for lazy students, anyway) see you soon :) === ^V^ is now known as _V_ [02:28] hello any 1 here === Lynx is now known as Guest57426 [02:29] yep [02:29] how can i update kbuntu 10.4LTS to 10.10 [02:30] !upgrade [02:30] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [02:30] can anyone provide some solution that doesn't involve downgrading? [02:30] its kbuntu not ubuntu [02:31] install the oldest version of your choice;) [02:31] rufsketch1: for that we would need to know where it fails - networkmanager puts its logs in /var/log/syslog, you can check there after an unsuccessful connection attempt if there is any error - or at least what it tries to do [02:32] yofel: checking [02:32] just a sec [02:32] Guest57426: the commands are the same, kubuntu and ubuntu [02:33] lynx:http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/upgrade [02:33] you might want to use kpackagekit rather than their suggestions, but still [02:33] if you are using a laptop [02:34] valorie:you and kpackagekit [02:34] ok, muon then [02:34] yofel: it might have to do with kdeinit4 segfaulting. [02:34] or aptitude [02:34] or apt-get [02:34] yofel: should I pastebin my log? [02:34] I use them all [02:35] ok ok ok ok [02:35] lol [02:35] rufsketch1: would be nice, but if kdeinit4 segfaults it's not surprising that knm doesn't work [02:35] I'm not religious about stuff -- I use what works, what I can remember at the time, etc. etc. [02:37] how do i edit it to normal [02:39] Guest57426: edit what to "normal"? [02:40] this [02:40] ok [02:40] edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal [02:40] that [02:41] kdesudo kate /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [02:41] look for Prompt= [02:41] i found it [02:41] and put in normal right there [02:42] valorie: how do you do to know that all? [02:42] all done [02:42] well, I know that if you want to run a gui app in root, you have to use kdesudo [02:43] and kate is my favorite editor [02:43] so I've used it for stuff like this before [02:43] so I just generalized to what Guest57426 needed to do [02:43] i used gedit before [02:43] ugh [02:43] yes, so have I [02:43] lol [02:44] do u like gedit [02:44] even in kubuntu 9.10 [02:44] oh yh i have another problem [02:45] no, I try to use kate for everythign [02:45] lol [02:45] like every so oftern all my lights start flashin and the battery stops charging on my laptop [02:45] yowch [02:45] it only did it on here and ubuntu [02:46] that sounds like a problem for sure [02:46] i just unplugged my v=charger then plugged it bk in and it stopped lol === Guest57426 is now known as Jason [02:47] wtf [02:47] i cant choose a nick name === Jason is now known as Lynx [02:47] what is the power delivered by your charger === Lynx is now known as Guest18492 [02:48] hmm i m not sure === Guest18492 is now known as Jason [02:48] Jason: try jasonwtflynx, youll have abetter chance of getting it.... [02:49] how do i check [02:50] you are asking to who? [02:50] u said [02:50] power deleivered by the charger [02:50] on your charger [02:50] ok 1 sec then [02:50] or in the bios [02:51] 240v input [02:51] 19v output [02:52] the power is given in watt "w" [02:52] i couldnt see very well [02:53] i cant see whatt [02:55] it dont say tta [02:56] i am asking it because very charger are design for a one laptop if the power of your own is not design for your laptop you will have those problem :blink blink [02:57] its the charger that came with the laptop i havent changed it [02:59] they are building each charger for each laptop because of the mother board; did you bough it as first hand? [02:59] yh this it [02:59] http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=10001&catalogId=1500002701&langId=-1&searchTerms=ACER+ASPIRE+5551A#pdpFullProductInformation [03:00] the problem is though it only does it on linux on windows when i had it it was fine never did it once [03:01] that precision you didn't told me that. what is the capacity of your memory ram [03:01] 3gb [03:01] the processor [03:02] 2.1ghz [03:02] it can have upto 8gb tho [03:02] did you install it well (os) [03:03] i install an old version of kbuntu 9.10 [03:03] installed** [03:04] so i just updated to 10.4 then now im updating to 10.10 [03:04] do you used to leave your battery discharge completly [03:05] no ive allways got my charger in [03:05] m [03:07] since it is not either your battery or your charger it's your updates files; i am studying engineering you can trust [03:07] ok [03:08] so uninstall the os that you have and install a new own [03:09] so should i stop this update of 10.10 [03:09] dont forget to signal that problem to kubuntu about your update [03:10] ok [03:10] what the irc server for kbuntu [03:10] nata : whats up [03:10] is it irc.freenode.net [03:10] what? [03:12] tta: so earlier, i just wakeup [03:12] its 4am here [03:12] jason: i will like to get my master degrees in england but the fees are expensive what can i do? [03:13] irc.ubuntu.com:8001 [03:13] 11:13am here [03:13] yesterday acc tta until 4am only sleep [03:14] nata: more you sleep more you live is too [03:14] that dude. hehe [03:14] are u allways in here [03:14] i used to sleep 5 hrs [03:14] hehe [03:15] no la, sometimes [03:15] jason: since yesterday [03:15] im usually stay awake all night [03:15] that is good [03:15] jason, where you come from? [03:15] jason are you a student or a scholar [03:16] africa: cameroon [03:16] how do u do that [03:16] i said me [03:16] ur name comes up in red [03:16] whose manes [03:17] urs did did u pm me [03:17] so your are cameroonian too [03:17] im from uk [03:17] tta, now you study degree? [03:18] nata: a:bsc [03:18] haha [03:19] why are you laughing [03:19] jason, just now you can direct pm me, how you do that? [03:19] i like smell [03:20] nata how you do that [03:20] jason, just now you can direct pm me, how you do that? [03:20] do what? [03:20] ur name come up in red [03:21] nata:what are you studying? [03:21] nono, no same, your name direct appear in my chat room list there told me that you from uk, not just highlight in here only [03:22] oh [03:22] I'm grad. long time ago, industrial chemistry [03:22] whooa [03:23] nate, are you talking about the /me does whatever command? [03:23] * valorie does whatever [03:23] ahla...just study few years book.. [03:23] for me it's blue [03:23] * Jason lol [03:23] oops, nata, not nate [03:23] valorie: mayb :) [03:23] sheesh [03:23] is that it [03:24] you can try it, anyone can do it [03:24] nata: few like 5 [03:24] just start the line with /me [03:24] except me [03:24] * Jason [03:24] when u did it it was normal i dnno lol [03:24] have any of u used irssi [03:25] tta: can you receiced my name appear in special? [03:26] yes [03:26] how -*- do that? the name appear in blue [03:27] are u all runinng kbuntu [03:27] *tta* [03:27] valorie: you know? [03:27] isn't it? [03:27] Jason: yes [03:27] what irc client u using [03:27] tta* [03:28] * Jason nata what irc client u using [03:28] konversation [03:28] oh [03:28] Jason: quassel irc, just type your name system will auto login for you. damn easy [03:29] * Jason nata nice u tryed irssi [03:29] -*- is bot? [03:29] -*- [03:29] #kubuntu tta [03:30] cant talking to -*-. hehe [03:30] why am i not succeed? [03:30] ok, if you say someone's nick, then their name will appear red *for them* [03:30] what u doin [03:30] not for everyone else [03:30] at least in most clients [03:31] im using http://webchat.freenode.net/ [03:31] however, if you aren't talking about Kubuntu, please go to #kubuntu-offtopic [03:31] this is a help channel, not for general chat [03:32] cool Jason [03:32] that will have many less features than using an IRC client such as Konversation or Quassel [03:32] *valorie* [03:32] im gunna use irssi [03:33] valorie: in quassel will highlight in orange color [03:33] terminal irc client [03:34] ubuntu irc *nata* [03:35] valorie: accually should be having a chatting while no people asking something important. sometime people will feel no help in here [03:35] I believe you can set your colors in most clients [03:35] tta: you already highlight my name [03:35] not true, nata [03:35] no 1s askin questions [03:35] why [03:35] read the guidelines [03:36] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines [03:36] ubuntu*tta* [03:36] channels have topics for a reason, and off-topic needs to go where it belongs [03:36] valorie: in ubuntu-cn all people chatting in time. when got problem also can immediately give some help :) [03:36] maybe that's all on-topic in that channel [03:37] not in this one [03:37] we have #kubuntu-offtopic for that [03:37] everyone is welcome there [03:37] valorie do u allways come in here [03:37] nono, valorie, that also have a guideline like kubuntu [03:37] yes, I'm here when I'm online [03:38] which is.... when I'm awake [03:38] lol [03:38] lol [03:38] where u from [03:38] u [03:40] excuse me? Jason, did you listen to what I just said? [03:40] How do I get KNetworkManger to appear on the panel? I can't use wlan0 otherwise === default is now known as Guest1274 [03:41] what do you mean by panel [03:41] The task bar [03:43] click on the cashew [03:43] and "add widgets" [03:45] It doesn't work [03:45] I don't see any network manager on there [03:45] How do I get new widgetw [03:46] applications>accesories [03:46] I can't download them because I don't have an internet connecton in KDE [03:46] I ahve to use LXFE to get connection [03:47] I used to have the KNetworkManger on the panel [03:47] oh, that sucks -- but you shouldn't have to download it [03:47] what is that? [03:47] just add it to the panel [03:47] So I do have the software...I don't know how to accessit [03:47] there is a search there, you can use that [03:47] Search where? [03:47] natsuru: your connection is free? [03:47] For widgets? [03:47] tta? [03:48] search for widgets [03:48] Yeah [03:48] It doesn't show up [03:48] your connection is it free? [03:48] what version of kubuntu, Natsuru_Senou? [03:48] In fact...I had to run KNetworkManager everytime I started Kubuntu [03:48] For it to show up on the panel [03:48] umm uhh [03:48] How do I find out [03:50] that's weird [03:50] natsuru: i said:applications>accesories [03:50] okahy [03:50] What do I do there TTA? [03:50] look for sreenlets [03:51] Oh lokay [03:53] natsuru : are you through [03:54] No [03:54] Will do now [03:59] Hey [03:59] tta: [03:59] What did you say? [03:59] Where do I go again/ [03:59] oh === sean is now known as Guest56663 [04:05] Okay [04:05] I got it working [04:05] natsuru:>applications>accesories>screenlets>search or net monitor [04:05] Wireless at least, but I had to configure it manually, I couldn't use Knetworkmanager so that didn't work. I don't see a screenlets option. Also, how do I configure startup commands? [04:05] Like I want KDE [04:06] your net is free [04:06] Like I want KDEWALLET, Compiz, and Knetworkmanager all at boot [04:06] What do you mean free? [04:06] It's unsecured if that is what you mean. [04:07] are you paying? [04:09] Natsuru_Senou: what you need can be setting in system/system settings/startup and shutdown, auto start & service manager. your knawork manager can startup auto by click 'netwaork management user setting & network status' if i not wrong (in kubuntu only) [04:11] Natsuru_Senou: at autostart there can easily add program you wan to autostart. compiz no need in kubuntu i think. can direct set in desktop effect [04:11] wow [04:11] jason : where were you? [04:11] Where is startup and shutdown === lolwut is now known as Jay [04:12] Jason_: jason, type '/join #kubuntu-offtopic' , me and tta there === Jay is now known as Guest16862 [04:12] ok [04:13] Natsuru_Senou: system/system settings/startup and shutdown === Guest16862 is now known as Unkn0wn [04:14] thanks [04:16] Natsuru_Senou: kwallet can set at system settings/account details/kde wallet [04:17] Hey [04:17] Is there a widget for configuring ALSA [04:17] sound audio [04:18] you can do it in the console: alsamixer [04:18] enjoy your self [04:18] use your arrow keys to navigate [04:18] m=muted [04:19] or setting in system settings/multimedia... if i get you means . hihi === IdleOne is now known as _IdleOne === _IdleOne is now known as IdleOne [06:39] i have a small doubt regarding nepomuk backup. my harddisk size is 1.08 TB and it contains a lot of music , videos , documents and system files. When i did a backup of the nepomuk database , the file size was just 30 kb. Is the size of nepomuk database right? because i expected it to be around 30 mb. [06:46] what is the difference between screen and desktop? [10:49] Hola a todos [10:55] hi guys... does anyone know about HDMI audio? i've got my output on the tv screen atm but I can't seem to get the audio to go through the hdmi audio device === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:35] anyone knows an application to Convert SQLLite to MDB ? [11:45] hi, i got some strage desktop overlay. this is no applet. this is not part of the wallpaper. http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=bildschirmfoto1ltzj.png [11:46] Sly: ? [11:46] Peace: you see the soft shadowed rectangle? [11:47] Sly: ah ok [11:47] Sly: it's fine [11:47] Sly: i guess youhave to reset your ~/.kde [11:47] what settings will be lost? [11:47] Sly: i ahve seen one time on my desktop too [11:48] Sly: well all.... just rename to fix fast or just invastigate on ~/.kde [11:48] there should be plasma config files [11:48] that should be deleted [11:48] Sly: should be something like that /home/peace/.kde/share/ [11:49] ill relog. brb [11:52] thanks you, worked well [11:53] Sly: which did you removed? [11:53] plasma-appletsrc, plasma-appletsrc, plasma-desktoprc and plasmarc [11:54] sry, 2nd was plasma-desktop-appletsrc [12:00] Sly: nice === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm [12:46] How do I upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10? [12:46] I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but that doesn't seem to work [12:48] !upgrade | nikitis [12:48] nikitis: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [12:50] Peace-_: [12:51] nice :) [12:51] Peace-_: test [12:51] fantastic [12:51] :D [12:53] xD === mone is now known as chupa === chupa is now known as chupone === tarun is now known as Guest30629 === Guest30629 is now known as c2tarun [13:43] Hello, I want to set user restrictions for particular user or group of users, how can i do this with command line? any list of commands? [13:43] Mayank: exactly what restrictions? [13:44] james147:like for instance i do not want childUserA to have access to terminal, but I want ParentUserA to have access to terminal [13:47] james147: Or like, I do not want childUserA to change or add desktop icons, but I want that there is no such restriction for ParentUserA [13:47] * james147 dosent see the need for those type of restrictions.... and knows they are not easy to do.... [13:49] james147: I have to set kubuntu machines for children below 7th grade, so i need to do that. any direction for the same? [13:51] Mayank, how about setting their shell to /bin/false? [13:52] Hiyas [13:52] Hey BluesKaj [13:52] ^^ and it would be easier to reset their profile on logout/login.... i dont think its possible to stop them rearranding icons [13:53] desu: yes i thought of doing that, but can i restrict them for desktop icons? [13:53] You could probably set their Desktop to be owned by root instead? [13:56] james147: ok, leaving apart the desktop icons, can i hide the networking icon from the desktop bar so that they cannot view network settings [13:56] desu [13:56] desu: i dont really know how to do that. any directions? [13:56] chown -R root:somegroup /home/blah/Desktop # ? [13:57] and possibly followed by: [13:57] desu: ok! thanks :) [13:57] chmod -R ug+w /home/blah/Desktop [13:58] The users in the group somegroup will have write access to Desktop [13:59] Mayank, mind if I ask where you're deploying this, though? [13:59] desu: Hmm! Thanks. any idea if I can create default users in an installation image, so that whenever I install it using the image those users are already there [14:00] Mayank, yep, you can modify the live CD and put the users there. [14:00] Though I would suggest setting up an LDAP server and then authenticating against that instead. [14:01] desu: I have to do it for a school in my city - Delhi, India. I want to set up machines for students that are below 7th grade [14:01] Coincidentally, that's where I am too. Which school is it? [14:01] desu: you are from delhi? [14:01] Yep. [14:01] desu: St. Columba's [14:01] Does anyone know if Ubuntu 11.04 will support ASUS K52JC external sound? [14:02] Mayank, where is it? [14:02] Ashoka road [14:02] Ah, I see.. [14:03] ubuntu, http://www.linlap.com/wiki/asus+k52jc tells me it already works? [14:03] desu: yep [14:03] Mayank, sorry, I'll have to look that up.. I'm not very good with places :P [14:05] desu: ok! [14:05] Ah, alright.. I hope it goes well! [14:06] desu: thanks! :) === 13WAA8DW6 is now known as panacea [14:07] desu: thanks for your response :D [14:07] Mayank, btw, look into LDAP, and I'd suggest having a separate Desktop for each user instead of having a shared Desktop. [14:07] ubuntu, you're welcome :) [14:09] Mayank, what kind of interner connection will the school pcs be using? [14:09] err internet === mren|off is now known as mren [14:30] hyjf(hy#-3654000) === dave is now known as Paddez [14:48] hi [14:49] kubuntu 10.10, i installed chinese language, system language is US english. i want to enable ibus, so when i select the system language in system settings/locale/select system language, i select ibus or ibus-kde. [14:49] it "does not work". it doens't activate ibus, and when i reclick the button, ibus is not selected anymore [14:50] any idea? === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [15:12] sorry i lost connection [15:12] desu: there? [15:12] Mayank, yep. [15:14] desu: is this possible that i can somehow totally hide KpackageEdit and other admin utilites completely from the child user? === amichairo is now known as amichair [15:14] Just don't give that user the permissions [15:15] But will the user be able to see the applications? [15:16] Yeah, but they wont have the permissions to use it [15:16] No permissions to install anything, that is [15:17] desu: yes, but cant is it possible to hide it completely from the user? [15:17] Mayank, if you're deploying it for 7th graders, I'd recommend you take a look at Sugar or something instead [15:18] desu: Well the admin here stricly wants Kubuntu [15:20] Mayank, what kind of interner connection will the school pcs be using? [15:20] Mayank: this might be useful: http://dev-peterix.blogspot.com/2010/08/kiosk-in-kde-4.html [15:22] BluesKaj: they would be having a restricted access through the firewall [15:22] and i am going through your link [15:24] BluesKaj: I tried installing Kiosk Tool, but I am facing a problem while creating profiles [15:25] hey guys, any tips to get ibus/chinese input running in kubuntu 10.10? i've selected it in my system settings, but it "won't work" -- it gets deselected automatically when i reopen the dialog box, and ibus is not loaded, even after logout/reboot [15:26] BluesKaj:The error was: The directory /etc/kde-profile/ could not be created because of the following problem: [15:26] Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'fish' [15:28] BluesKaj: sorry, it was for james147 [15:28] Mayank, right :) [15:29] james147: I tried using Kiosk tool, but there is a problem while creating profiles - its like - Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'fish'. any solutions for this? [15:30] * james147 hasnt actually tryed using the kiosk toll ^^ [15:30] s/toll/tool ^^ [15:31] james147: ok! :) [15:36] hi there [15:37] anyone running kde 4.6 on maverick ? === sre-su_ is now known as sre-su [15:41] wow, that's what I call instant gratification syndrome [15:47] hello, can you help me please? i want to setup a mail server on the local network(adresses:192.168.137.x) [15:48] i installed all packages and followed the tutorial on ubuntu doc site [15:48] but the problem is that i haven't any domain adress , i want just use 192.168.137.x ip adresses [15:49] any idea please ? === mohamed is now known as linuxien-libre [16:02] hello, can you help me please? i want to setup a mail server on the local network(adresses:192.168.137.x) [16:02] i installed all packages and followed the tutorial on ubuntu doc site [16:02] but the problem is that i haven't any domain adress , i want just use 192.168.137.x ip adresses [16:02] any idea please ? [16:02] linuxien-libre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:16] linuxien-libre, do you own a domain address? [16:17] BluesKaj: no [16:19] hello. i need some help here. i installed Kubuntu , but i can't figure out how to share the files with XP computer. what else do i need to install?. [16:20] i need to move some backed up files back to this computer [16:20] !samba | tatie [16:20] tatie: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [16:20] tatie , install smbclient [16:21] james147, doesn't one need a domain name to host a mailserver ...I would think yes ? [16:21] BluesKaj: I do not know ^^ [16:22] smblient is already installed. also some other samba related things. [16:23] from windows i can see shared printer (though i dont' have any printer here) but i can't see the directory [16:24] tatie, connect to windows from linux using samba/smb is much easier that vice versa in my experience especially with vista and W7 [16:25] than vice versa [16:26] in my experience is not easier cause i dont' know the winXp password. :-O [16:26] since since XP I havent found a method to connect to Linux machines from Windows that works [16:27] when i create a user from the command line using adduser the Desktop folder is not created for the user untill and unless the user logsin using the GUI , can this done without making the user login? [16:27] tatie, well then you have a problem, gotta have the pw [16:27] Mayank: "man useradd" [16:27] Mayank: In /etc/skel usually is the template of what goes in a user's home directory [16:28] (adduser is a wrapper for useradd [16:28] why can't i connect from windows to Linux? i mean most servers in this world run linux right? and besides it worked nicely before in Ubuntu. but now i made a fresh install Kubuntu this time and i can't get it to work. [16:29] james147: let me try. [16:30] genii-around: ok! thanks, but if i edit. will all the users that are added will have the same things in their home directory? can it be user or group specific? [16:31] Mayank: It's just a template. When you add a user, the stuff in their home dir becomes owned by them, whatever the ownerships of stuff in the /etc/skel are [16:31] Mayank: man useradd -- there is an option to specify the skel directory, so you can copy the exisitng one for each group and edit them individually [16:32] tatie, what client were you using before to connect from windows? [16:33] tatie, there's putty ssh client and tightvnc [16:33] samba client on Ubuntu. on Windows it was Total commander [16:33] i just noticed that when i click configure share nothing shows to be configured. [16:34] james147: ok! thanks :) [16:34] genii-around: thanks :) [16:34] * james147 notes that you need samba installed... and the the kde gui for samba shares is horrfic... he recomnds editing /etc/samba/smb.conf or using the web ui SWAT [16:42] BluesKaj: I find connecting to Linux remarkably easier. I just use Filezilla and connecto over sftp [16:45] Daskreech, it works on W7? [16:45] Works anywhere. It's a SFTP client (a good one) connecting to a well defined ssh protocol [16:45] Isn't really anything much to mess up === loki is now known as Guest59682 [16:49] hey ! [16:50] how can I find the last fileaccess time ? [16:50] ok Daskreech , I'll check that out, thanks [16:50] atime ? [16:51] atime ? [16:53] a file on a UNIX file system keeps a few time periods as part of the file meta data. Ctime is the creation time. Atime is the access time [16:54] nice [16:54] "find -atime -1 " is last 24h hours ? [16:54] in need minutes [16:55] last 5 minutes [16:57] Guest59682: -amin n perhaps [16:58] TOP [16:58] thx === tarun is now known as Guest73202 === Guest73202 is now known as c2tarun [17:17] ok i think the whole problem here is that linux folders are not actually shared. the problem is not on windows side. but i can not mark them here propperly as shared folders. in fact when i right click them and select configure share some other share type is then set instead of samba. [17:19] tatie: the easiest way I've found is to install ssh and use filezilla [17:20] ok but why does the share not work in KDE but works in GNOME? [17:21] tatie: the kde gui for samba shares is a mess... its generally best to configure them manually [17:21] How to install applications for root user only. suppose if i remove konsole and install it again, but this time only for the root user, can this be done? [17:22] Please help. No audio on my kubuntu. [17:23] Mayank: no... the package manage has no sense of installing for users.... but you could try making the executable non executable for anyone not in a group [17:23] привет всем, configure: error: No suitable SHA1 implementation found что делать? [17:23] !ru | askent [17:23] askent: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [17:23] Mayank: is there any reason to restriced access to the terminal? [17:23] james147: like if i give 700 to konsole in etc, will it work [17:23] ? [17:24] Mayank: i would give 770, and change the group to like "staff" or something so that some users have access to it [17:24] james147: its not really needed, it was just an example for other applications [17:24] Please help.new to kubuntu. No audio on my kubuntu. the problem started from 2 days only. [17:24] james147: hmm! yes that would be good. [17:27] james147: this does not seem to work! if i do chmod 700 konsole in /etc it says no such file or directory [17:27] Mayank: applications arnt in /etc [17:28] Mayank: konsole should be in /usr/bin [17:28] james147: ok!! [17:33] james147: if I give konsole 700 , though it is not executable it is still readible by the child user, why? [17:33] Mayank: it shouldnt be... though it wont be hidden from them [17:34] james147: yes it is not executable, no way to just hide it from them? [17:34] Mayank: delete the executable [17:34] :) [17:35] there is no way to "hide" files and folders... why is that a problem? its not readable so they canot read it, it shouldnt matter that they can "see" it [17:36] james147: where is it? and it would not effect the root user right? [17:36] question: how do i set primary display in dualview? [17:36] r41_: what graphics card? [17:36] Mayank: where is what? [17:37] james147 ati radeon 3300hd [17:37] * james147 suggesting looking at the ati config tools... [17:37] james147: the executable? and the problem is just to hide the - "complexities" of the system according to our admin here [17:37] james147 yeah tried amdcccle but didnt find it [17:38] james147 doesnt imho exist; xrandr has an option --primary but doesnt work [17:39] question: using Kubuntu 10.10... is there already an SMP kernel that supports more than 3GB of ram or must I compile one? [17:39] Mayank: then you dont want to use kde... or really linux for that matter... its not designed to be able to hide and show different parts of the system for different users.... your children should never need to look in /usr/bin... and if they do... whats it matter? [17:41] james147: yes, we need to make them acquaint with FOSS, its not a problem in /usr/bin the problem is if they search for suppose "konsole" in the kubuntu menu, it displays it. [17:42] Mayank: then you need to edit the menus, not the excutables [17:42] Does anybody know how to install kubuntu with wub?? [17:42] Because i tried to yesterday and it kept crashing my computer [17:42] mayank i suppose you can disable bash access for users [17:42] BrightAmbition: wub? [17:42] or wubi [17:43] however you say it [17:43] james147: any direction for that? [17:43] hello?? [17:43] how are you all?? [17:44] BrightAmbition, is your pc old? [17:44] it seems that wubi works with ubuntu but not kubuntu [17:44] Mayank: you can mess around with the desktop files in /usr/share/applications ... though i do not know a way to do it per user [17:44] Nope i got my computer in like 2009 or 2010 [17:44] BrightAmbition: it does [17:44] (possibally by changing the permissions [17:44] how do you do that?? [17:44] james147: ok thank you! :) [17:45] So i had to install ubuntu instead i like kubuntu better though [17:45] BrightAmbition, give us more details , does it crash during install or ? [17:45] because it's simullar to windows desktop but less awful [17:45] yes [17:45] it crashes [17:45] badly i might add [17:46] Mayank: I would think if the desktopfiles arnt readably by a user then they wont be added to the menu when the menu is built... though thats just a guess (you can rebuild the m,enu with kbuildsycoca4 [17:46] BrightAmbition: where exactly? at the blue kubuntu screen after a reboot? [17:46] The screen completely freezes and i can't do anything [17:46] yes it crashes at the blue screen at start up [17:46] BrightAmbition: did you wait enough at the blue screen? [17:46] Yep [17:47] I waited like an hour [17:47] Still nothing [17:47] hi all! I have a laptop with rtl8187b wifi card in it, and it suddenly stopped working [17:47] BrightAmbition: install kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu ^^ that will effectivly give you kubuntu (with gnome attached, but you can also remove that) [17:47] BrightAmbition, have you tried installing kubuntu-desktop in the terminal , then at login you choose it instead of gnome [17:47] oh [17:47] ok [17:47] I can connect to wpa protected router, but I can't load any pages or ping anything [17:47] how do i do that?? [17:47] james147: ok, i will have a look at that! [17:47] :) [17:48] also, most of the time connection speed is reported as 1MBbit/s [17:48] has anyone encountered this? [17:48] Do i need a virtual box to install kubuntu into ubuntu?? [17:48] BrightAmbition, you have a gnome desktop ? [17:48] CuBe0wL: are you close enough to the router? without anything blocking the signal? [17:48] idk [17:48] james147, yes [17:48] I just installed ubuntu so idk what it has [17:49] I've been using it earlier today [17:49] CuBeOwl: are you getting assigned an Ip: [17:49] I've had an update, maybe something went wrong in the new kernel I got [17:49] ubuntu is gnome , kubntu is kde , natively, BrightAmbition [17:49] BrightAmbition: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" from ubuntu and that will install the kde desktop, you can then pick gnome or kde from the login screen [17:49] achondria, yes, everything seems fine [17:50] BrightAmbition: ubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu uses kde would be more accruate :) [17:50] oh ok [17:50] thx [17:51] CubeOwl: cant ping the gateway or router ip then either? [17:51] do I need ndiswrapper for this card for maverick, or doesn it already have a native driver? [17:51] james147, where is the terinal located in the gnom panel , I forget [17:51] terminal [17:51] Does anyone know how to install the sims 3 on ubuntu?? [17:51] Because i've tried and it just doesn't work [17:51] BluesKaj: pfft.... i can never remember [17:52] I just switched from windows to ubuntu [17:52] !wine | BrightAmbition [17:52] BrightAmbition: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [17:52] but i wanted kubuntu [17:52] oh ok [17:52] BluesKaj: in the accessories [17:52] BrightAmbition, pls stop aking and try to follow our advice [17:52] how do i get WINE to work with the game though?? [17:53] BrightAmbition: ubuntu and kubuntu are essentially the same operating system with a differeent gui... you can install kde on ubuntu to effectivally have kubuntu [17:53] Oh [17:53] Sorry new to all this [17:53] BrightAmbition: that depends on teh game ^^ read the enrty for sims 3 on the appdb [17:53] !appdb [17:53] The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [17:54] BrightAmbition, open accessories in the gnome panel and open the console , then type, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [17:54] Ok i did that already [17:54] I'm on a different computer [17:54] How do i use libre office though?? [17:54] Because i have to type up a paper for school [17:55] * BluesKaj takes a break [17:55] achondria, no, I can ping the router [17:57] CuBeOwl: hmmm, if you can ping the router, then i would say it's something weird with the router. You have rebooted the router? [17:58] achondria, I can't access the router [17:59] it's not mine, college wireless [17:59] the password is ok, I've used it numerous times, even today === sean is now known as Guest43843 [18:00] CuBe0wL, open /etc/resolv.conf, nameserver will probly have the router IP [18:00] CuBeOwl: Well, i have seen driver issues cause some weird problems like being able to connect but not get traffic [18:01] CuBeOwl: BlueKaj makes a good point perhpas DNS issue [18:02] can't be, because my nokia 5800 connects and uses the router easily [18:02] CuBeOwl: try pinging an ip like this one .. 72.30.2.43 [18:03] destination net unreachable [18:03] CuBe0wL, achondria , especially if the connection worked previously, then the namserver IP is the actual LAN router IP [18:04] achondria, . not necessarily a dns prob [18:06] Hi all =) [18:08] hi sedrik [18:09] BluesKaj: You think the PC is expecting the router to provide DNS but the router isn't set up to do so? [18:13] where has the folderview plasmoid gone? [18:15] :)) [18:17] achondria, most routers use the auto-dns setting , but a college campus area network is probly has totally different settings , but I can't be sure [18:21] BluesKaj: would you happen to know if there is a kubuntu kernel (precompiled) that supports more than 3 GB of ram? [18:22] achondria: the 64bit version does :) [18:22] achondria: also, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/ [18:25] james147: Thanks so much, i am using 64bit, but I'll check out the details when I get that PC up and running later. [18:27] * BluesKaj suffers with 32bit & 3G RAM :) [18:27] achondria: ^^ if your using 64bit then you shouldnt have a problem with max ram [18:28] guess i could install the 64 bit OS , but I'm afraid of flash probs [18:30] james147: according to the info you posted, I agree, but I do remember checking it with free yesterday and having it come up with something like 3.1GB physical ( i have 4GB installed) [18:30] achondria: and your sure you ahve the 64bit version insalled? [18:31] achondria: uname -m should tell you [18:31] james147: yeah, I had to even dl 64bit apps to replace the ones I had saved [18:32] achondria: then check your bios, make sure that reports the correct ammount [18:33] james147: it does :( 4028 or something like that [18:33] then thats weird [18:33] achondria: what does uname -m say? [18:34] james147: i will have to reboot to get into it (im running a 32bit live cd right now) back in a bit. Thanks again. [18:35] BluesKaj: I havnt had any problems with flash on 64bit ^^ well, anymore then the usual flash problems of flash being flash :) [18:52] hello [18:53] awesome! [18:53] awesomeness! [18:53] lol [18:53] can you paste the link to your screenshot on imgur? [18:53] sure [18:53] cool! [18:53] * seidos runs around [18:53] i'ma paste it in #unbuntu if your there seidos [18:53] oops [18:54] typos [18:54] lol [18:54] BrightAmbition: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [18:54] #ubuntu [18:54] oh [18:54] sorry [18:54] oopsies [19:02] Hello. I'm trying to install Kubuntu on my hard drive array. I have /dev/md0 as software RAID 5 on / , /dev/md1 as software RAID 1 on /boot, and /dev/md2 as RAID 1 swap space. The install itself seems to be fine, because I can assemble root and see the file system - same goes for /boot [19:03] Grub is what's giving me trouble. It boots into a recovery shell. [19:04] I installed it to /dev/sda, default options. What am I missing? [19:08] !raid [19:08] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [19:12] * james147 isnt sure if grub knows about software raids.... [19:13] From what I read, it can handle RAID 1 [19:14] when i enter the command - useradd -m someuser, it creates a desktop folder for the user by default in one machine but not on the other, any reason? [19:16] Mayank: how are you sharing users between machines? [19:17] james147: I am not sharing users, just entering the same command in two different machines [19:18] james147: i just want the desktop folder to be there by default [19:18] Mayank: you really should use somehting like LDAP for multiple users on multiple computers [19:18] Mayank: its creating the users home though? if so is the Desktop folder in the /etc/skel? [19:20] james147: yes the skel folder is empty. Should i just add a Desktop folder there? [19:21] Mayank: if you want it created then yet (and it shouldnt be empty, there should be some hidden files in it) [19:21] yes ^^ [19:22] james147: yes, .profile is the relevant one? [19:23] Okay, it looks like the FakeRAID howto has GRUB info [19:23] confusing, since I'm not really using dmarid :p [19:23] james147: thanks again :) [19:24] The Desktop directory is supposed to be created by the Desktop environment IIRC [19:24] KDE, GNOME, XFCE etc. [19:24] On the first run. [19:27] desu: yes but i want to chmod 755 it [19:27] for the LiveCD customization [19:27] Ah, alright.. [19:28] Mayank, are all the computers on network? [19:29] desu: yes they will be [19:29] desu: but we have different departments, so making one for network run [19:29] at 5-6 places [19:29] Why not create one single shared /home directory and authenticate against LDAP? [19:53] desu: because different departments are not connected with each other [19:53] Mayank, but all systems within the same department are interconnected, right? [19:54] and they cannot be connected to one central LDAP server due to resource problems [19:54] You can use a desktop machine as an LDAP server [19:54] I doubt the load would be high enough to bring that system down to its knees [19:55] desu: yes they are, and yes we can use it . I was talking about the networking part between the departments [19:55] and not intradepartment [19:56] Mayank, it's half past one in the morning. You should perhaps stop working now :P [19:57] desu: aha! yes! you should too! just trying to install .air app through the terminal [19:57] .air? [19:57] built on adobe air [19:57] Oh, ahhh... === vic is now known as Guest70011 [20:51] how do i get a slideshow style wallpapers for gnome ? [20:54] Moin, kennt sich hier jemand gut mit Softraid aus? [20:54] Hello everybody, is here someone who has in deep softraid knowledge? [20:58] can someone help me change my Irc mode? === panacea___ is now known as panacea [21:44] Hi, does anyone know if/why kde-l10n-* packages in Ubuntu are completely different from the Debian ones? We're interested in getting some translated docbook files added to kde-l10n-el... [21:50] alkisg: you should ask in #kubuntu-devel [21:50] yofel: thank you === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === sean is now known as Guest45810 === tchangang is now known as TTA [22:36] valorie : i am going to enjoy ubuntu 10.10 [22:51] what program to i use with kubuntu to make avi files run on stand-alone (tv) dvd players? === tchangang is now known as TTA [23:10] quit [23:14] Is it possible to not specify ~/.ssh/keyName every time you do an ssh-add, but just keyName? [23:16] on which web site can i have the process to install ubuntu? === mren is now known as mren|off [23:28] can you tell me a key word in wiki pedia by which i can compare spech of p3 p4 centreno dual core core 2 duo processor ram l2 l3 cache etc ? [23:29] not really a kubuntu question [23:33] i wanted to buy a laptop. can any one tell which is the most stable or durable company? [23:35] mcloy: again not a Kubuntu question, please take this tho #kubuntu-offtopic [23:37] I'm trying to compile a program which does a test on -lXext when I do the test myself I do have XShmCreateImage function define in this lib. but ./configure fails to agree. === christian is now known as Guest35534 [23:39] hi lute [23:39] mjobin: which program are you trying to compile, and are you sure that it's picking up that copy of the lib [23:40] i search icq for kubuntu can you help me? [23:41] Guest35534: perhaps if you ask a question people may have a better chance of helping [23:42] Guest35534: kopete support ICQ [23:42] Guest35534: maybe licq still exist, I was using that in 1999-2002 [23:42] kopete thx [23:42] mjobin: glad you understood that :) [23:43] sry my english is verry bad [23:45] Mase_wk: I'm compiling evas. which does not have much ressource for compiling help online. I found out ./configure does not find that function in -lXext could not be found. I took the code from the configure code and compile it myself. and it works... so I'm really puzzle http://pastebin.com/15CKQj4R [23:45] Guest35534: no problem. kopete is very good software, I hope you like it [23:46] yes its really good, how long you have kubuntu? [23:46] ** [help ressource compiling online].shuffle(:as_required) [23:47] KDE since Krash 1.89, Kubuntu not sure, 2008 [23:48] cool, i hav kubuntu since 2 months [23:49] i am a newbie [23:49] it's a good moment. lots of exciting stuff to learn. [23:50] kubuntu is a good system. you can do anything you want with it [23:52] yes you can do things in kubuntu who are in windows impossible === sysadmin is now known as Guest52191 === Guest52191 is now known as topls64 [23:59] why am i not able to install kubuntu 9.10 or higher on virtualbox...