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Sparklezrtdos: yesterday I mentioned a slow-down problem with lubuntu under a different handle (Ak1ra) and you asked if my gentoo (slow-down free) machines ran lxde, and I said yes :) thoughts on that?01:05
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sealHi all, how do you get dual monitor to work?06:00
sealI only see double screen - is there a way to view extended monitor like in ubuntu 10.1006:01
sealMy lubuntu Setup: 10.10 on acer 5735z06:01
bioterrorhttp://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/01 maybe?!06:05
sealthanks just checking06:06
bioterroranyways06:06
bioterrorgoogle :D06:06
bioterrormost of the lubuntu users are having ancient hardware :D06:06
sealtried that - have you notice not much comes up for lubuntu?06:07
sealI am seriously thinking of jumping back to ubuntu as it is friendlier06:07
sealfor noob like me - more support06:08
sealbitterror - thanks for your help ;)06:23
red_hello07:29
bioterrorhi07:32
red_bioterror, do you have any idea, what might be causing video and auido playback glitch (stutter)?07:44
bioterrorI have to admit thatI dont know07:45
red_My specs are: 1ghz centrino, 512mb ram, shared gpu, its 2005 laptop samsung Q3007:45
red_i tried the cmd mplayer07:45
red_and even that doesnt run smoothly07:45
bioterroryou mean just videos has problems?07:45
red_audio too07:45
red_mp3s07:46
bioterrorhaaa07:46
bioterrorsamsung Q30 == Dell Latitude X107:47
red_yes apparently, badge engineering :)07:47
bioterrorI have no clue, and neither is internets telling nothing much07:51
red_no its a funky thing to google, i'll try some more googling07:51
bioterrordid you try with VLC?07:51
red_not yet, i tried with aqualung, gnome player and mplayer07:52
red_hmm vlc video playback stutters too. Maybe i should try installing some drivers (video at least).08:03
red_ok, ive found out my VGA chip via terminal :))) haha this feels great08:10
red_brb09:24
red_ok it seems stuttering isnt occuring on mplayer09:31
red_i followed this guide09:31
red_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes09:31
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Jef91Does PCManFM support network shares at all?09:42
jmarsdenJef91: Yes, but for SAMBA/Windows share discovery you need to install gvfs-backend09:47
jmarsdenSee bug #67521209:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 675212 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Maverick) "Add gvfs-backends to lubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67521209:48
jmarsdenOh, make that gvfs-backends09:48
Jef91Yea09:48
Jef91found that09:48
Jef91its OK I installed the latest 0.9.3 from source09:49
Jef91I have gvfs-backends installed09:50
Jef91how do I view the network shares now?09:50
Jef91ahh found it09:51
jmarsdenGo -> network drives    I think?09:52
Jef91(pcmanfm2:29484): GLib-WARNING **: GError set over the top of a previous GError or uninitialized memory.09:52
Jef91This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is NULL before it's set.09:52
Jef91The overwriting error message was: The specified location is not mounted09:52
Jef91Segmentation fault09:52
Jef91>.<09:52
Jef91Is there a way for it to ask to mount when selecting a network drive not mounted?09:52
jmarsdenI don't know. Ask on the lubuntu-desktop mailing list, or wait for more people to be awake :)09:53
Jef91Thanks09:56
Jef91sent the email09:56
Jef91wow lots of good things in PCMan 0.9.309:57
Jef91this might actually replace nautilus for me finally.09:57
Jef91Any idea if there is a way to have a "Split screen" mode? Thats a feature I've really gotten used to09:57
LXCC-Vincenzohi hall, i've a problem on Lubuntu 10.4 : i cannot enter using login screen but i can enter with ctrl+alt+f1. Then i've killed lxdm and tryied to use startx but this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572993/  any idea?10:22
Jef91lxcc-vincenzo10:26
Jef91sudo /etc/init.d/lxdm restart10:26
Jef91to restart the display manager10:26
Jef91in lubuntu10:26
LXCC-Vincenzotnx Jef91 i'll try. sorry for delay my eeepc 701 is slow.10:38
Jef91No worries :)10:38
Jef91Okie doke - almost 5 am here time for some sleep10:42
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bioterrorsouns like encrypted home10:48
bioterrorsounds10:48
red_bio, would you like to add video troubleshooting tab to your guide?11:23
red_nothing special, just the hyperlink to here would be sufficient i guess11:24
red_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video11:24
red_and step maybe, determine your video card using lspci | grep VGA11:24
LXCC-VincenzoI've a problem on Lubuntu 10.4 : i cannot enter using login screen but i can enter with ctrl+alt+f1. Then i've killed lxdm and tryied to use startx but this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572993/  any idea?12:58
leszekhi13:28
mark76Hey Leszek13:30
NRWlionhello guys . greetings from Germany13:55
leszekNRWlion: schöne grüße zurück13:56
leszekand btw. a greeting from nrw (cologne, here) back to nrw :)13:57
NRWlionleszek, good to finally meet people from my region ;)14:00
red_linux.org is down and so are their lessons :/14:37
red_any alternatives?14:37
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red_bioterror you here?19:03
bioterrorsure19:07
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red_im starting to enjoy lubuntu :)19:22
red_bro even helped me with the samba setup to connect to my hackintosh19:23
red_anyway i was just going to say, if you were considering including "video" section in your lubuntu 101 link19:24
red_like just the basic, i.e. type sudo ... to determine your gpu then go here etc etc19:24
bioterrorwhat19:25
bioterrorI'm not making screen casts ;)19:25
red_nah nah not a screen cast19:25
red_just a new hyperlink19:25
red_speaking of your guide i can't find :(19:28
red_i've had it b'marked in chromium19:28
red_but i purged it and have opera instead19:28
red_its a bit faster and less ram hungry i suppose19:28
bioterrorSat21:49*<bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ at the end you have a guide19:29
bioterroryes and no19:29
bioterroropera has universe inside it19:29
red_i c19:38
r\wWorldwould anyone tell me if lubuntu uses ALSA ?19:38
bioterrorr\wWorld, uses19:38
r\wWorldso if i install flashplayer from the repos should i install the add-on as well ?19:40
bioterrorsudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree19:41
bioterroror flashplugin-installer19:41
r\wWorldalso i'm trying to get firefox to recognize emails. So when you click on the them, thunderbird opens up, with the address already added. What should i do inorder to get this functionality ?19:47
bioterrorfrom preferences default applications19:48
r\wWorldugh it doesn't work19:51
bioterrorwhat?19:51
bioterroremail?19:51
r\wWorldyeah, when you click on the email link in the web-browser nothing opens up19:52
r\wWorldit just opens up a new browser windows19:53
bioterrordo I have to boot back to lubuntu :D19:53
bioterroroh look19:57
bioterrorI got that too :D19:57
* bioterror goes to dig19:57
bioterrornice bug that is19:59
r\wWorld?20:01
r\wWorldi hate 'em bugs20:02
* r\wWorld grabs his shoe20:02
bioterroruno momento20:02
bioterroralmost20:03
bioterrordoesnt open browser :D20:03
bioterrorffffffffffffffffffffffffff20:05
bioterrorgilir, WAKEUP20:05
bioterrorwell20:12
bioterrortechnically I fixed that20:12
jmarsdenYou woke him up?  Cool, can I have that app please? :)20:12
bioterrornope, I just fixed mailto: -links20:13
jmarsdenAh, that's no as much fun :)20:13
bioterrorto open sylpheed and add address to "to:" form20:13
bioterrorthis is failure20:16
jmarsdenIs there a bug in the defaults that we should fix in lubuntu-default-settings or similar??20:16
bioterroryes and no20:16
bioterrorlet's say20:17
bioterrorif you have email which has URL20:17
bioterrorand you click that URL20:17
bioterrorit will call /usr/bin/x-www-browser20:18
bioterroraka /usr/bin/sensible-browser20:18
jmarsdenWhich is the right thing to do... yes?20:18
bioterroryes20:18
bioterrornow when we have webpage with this mailto:20:19
bioterrorwhen you click it, it will call /usr/bin/xdg-email20:19
bioterrorand we have there:20:19
bioterroropen_generic()20:19
bioterror{20:19
bioterrorsensible-browser "$1"20:19
bioterror...20:19
bioterrorI replaced that with sylpheed --compose "$1"20:20
bioterrorbut we dont have sensible-mailer20:20
bioterrorwhich we SHOULD HAVE20:20
bioterrorwe have to manually say which email client we want to call20:21
bioterrorr\wWorld, that's why it opens a web browser, becouse LXDE uses generic and there's a configuration to use "browser"20:22
jmarsdenHmmm.  So we will need to override xdg-email with an Lubuntu-specific default of sylpheed, it sounds like.20:24
r\wWorldso if i add the sylpheed --compose "$1" all should be good20:24
bioterrorsylpheed is default20:24
bioterrorbut if someone wants to use thunderbird, he needs to replace then the sylpheed with thunderbird20:25
bioterrorthunderbird -compose20:26
bioterrorand those should be done with "preferred applications"20:26
bioterrorand it could be done, if we had a "sensible-mailer" :D20:26
bioterrorI say: epic fail20:27
jmarsdenNot a bad idea... you can add that to the sensible-utils package if you want, should be a relatively small change :)20:27
r\wWorldhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/03/msg00187.html20:28
jmarsdenI was wondering about a $MAILER type of thing, like $PAGER and $EDITOR... interesting... anyway, instead of discussing it, better to implement it and see if we can get something accepted :)20:30
r\wWorldwb20:31
jmarsdenNote to self: ctrl-q in Xchat is NOT the same as ctrl-q in Emacs :)20:31
bioterrorhah20:31
bioterrorwith VIM you would use esc...20:32
bioterrorI have to dig this20:33
r\wWorldyeah, one of  the biggest issues in linux with new users, the keys for applications is always different20:33
bioterrorthis is a real issue20:33
bioterrorand not a small one20:33
jmarsdenNew users generally won't use shortcut keys anyway, just the menus :)  But once they start getting comfortable, yes, it is an issue.20:34
r\wWorldwell atleast ctrl+c and ctrl+v are for the most part the same everywhere..... except MatLAB on Unix20:35
bioterrorhmmmm20:36
bioterrorpreferred application doesnt work right20:36
bioterrorI opened abiword, made a hyperlink to mailto://myemail@address.com20:36
bioterrorand it just opens sylpheed, nothing else20:37
jmarsdenr\wWorld: Don't try them in Emacs or vi, then :)  Or at a shell prompt for that matter :)20:39
bioterrorokey20:41
bioterrorpreferred applications uses .config/libfm/pref-apps.conf20:42
bioterrorand there's a link to sylpheed.desktop20:42
bioterrorno wonder why it doesnt compose a message20:43
bioterrornow I can enjoy some chocolate20:48
bioterrorpreferred application should call xdg-email?!20:49
bioterror:D20:49
bioterrorwhy o why there's no /usr/bin/x-emailer or something like that20:53
bioterrorit would solve alot of problems20:53
* r\wWorld is making himself some cookies20:55
r\wWorldhttps://pragmaticattic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/pistachio-almond-apricot-cranberry-cookie-thins/20:55
jmarsdenbioterror: There is /usr/bin/xdg-email -- it just doesn't "know about" Lubuntu and so when run under Lubuntu it defaults to generic.  Adding some Lubuntu-knowledge to the whole sensible-utils package would be a good thing, IMO.21:16
bioterroryeah21:18
bioterrorand I tweaked the generic21:18
bioterrorthere's sensible-browser as default :D21:18
bioterrorlike wtf?! :D21:18
jmarsdenSo submit a patch :)21:18
bioterrorthere's really no patch for it21:18
bioterrorand lxde is still without a real email client and so on21:19
jmarsdenSure there is, xdg-email can and should detect Lubuntu just as it detects GNOME and KDE, and act appropriately.21:19
bioterrorit should detect LXDE, not Lubuntu21:20
bioterrorbut there's  no "default email client" for the LXDE21:20
jmarsdenSure.  Maybe it could detect LXDE and then check for sylpheed and then thunderbird, or whatever set of apps makes sense.21:20
bioterroryes21:20
jmarsdenNo hard, just a few lines of shell script... so ... write the patch :)21:20
bioterrorfor example SalixOS uses Claws-Mail for their LXDE21:22
bioterrorOpenSuse LXDE uses Claws too21:22
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red_g'nite21:24
red_cya around21:24
bioterrornot so sure, but Mint 10 LXDE might use Thunderbird21:28
bioterrorthat makes it difficult21:36
bioterrorwith gnome you can call evolution and then thunderbird21:36
bioterrorwith kde you can call kmail21:36
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szczurhmm, my firefox run mailto: links without problems21:38
bioterrorhow about you chromium21:38
bioterroryour21:38
szczurgimme 5 sec21:39
bioterroryou have 221:39
bioterror:D21:39
szczuroh noes, mu synaptic's so slow21:39
szczuri lost21:39
bioterrorsynaptic :o21:40
szczuri like it :)21:40
bioterrorsure21:40
szczurhmm, i n chromium it starts up firefox, then thunderbird >_>21:45
r\wWorldszczur, how did you install firefox ?21:52
szczursudo apt-get install firefox21:52
r\wWorldwell that install gnome among other things21:54
r\wWorldwill*21:55
szczursudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install firefox21:55
Krasyo all22:33
Krasszczur are you there?22:33
szczurKras, hello22:41
Krasyo22:41
Krasmoge na priv ?22:41
szczurooo :)22:41
szczurnie ma problemu :)22:42

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