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Sparklez | rtdos: yesterday I mentioned a slow-down problem with lubuntu under a different handle (Ak1ra) and you asked if my gentoo (slow-down free) machines ran lxde, and I said yes :) thoughts on that? | 01:05 |
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seal | Hi all, how do you get dual monitor to work? | 06:00 |
seal | I only see double screen - is there a way to view extended monitor like in ubuntu 10.10 | 06:01 |
seal | My lubuntu Setup: 10.10 on acer 5735z | 06:01 |
bioterror | http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/01 maybe?! | 06:05 |
seal | thanks just checking | 06:06 |
bioterror | anyways | 06:06 |
bioterror | google :D | 06:06 |
bioterror | most of the lubuntu users are having ancient hardware :D | 06:06 |
seal | tried that - have you notice not much comes up for lubuntu? | 06:07 |
seal | I am seriously thinking of jumping back to ubuntu as it is friendlier | 06:07 |
seal | for noob like me - more support | 06:08 |
seal | bitterror - thanks for your help ;) | 06:23 |
red_ | hello | 07:29 |
bioterror | hi | 07:32 |
red_ | bioterror, do you have any idea, what might be causing video and auido playback glitch (stutter)? | 07:44 |
bioterror | I have to admit thatI dont know | 07:45 |
red_ | My specs are: 1ghz centrino, 512mb ram, shared gpu, its 2005 laptop samsung Q30 | 07:45 |
red_ | i tried the cmd mplayer | 07:45 |
red_ | and even that doesnt run smoothly | 07:45 |
bioterror | you mean just videos has problems? | 07:45 |
red_ | audio too | 07:45 |
red_ | mp3s | 07:46 |
bioterror | haaa | 07:46 |
bioterror | samsung Q30 == Dell Latitude X1 | 07:47 |
red_ | yes apparently, badge engineering :) | 07:47 |
bioterror | I have no clue, and neither is internets telling nothing much | 07:51 |
red_ | no its a funky thing to google, i'll try some more googling | 07:51 |
bioterror | did you try with VLC? | 07:51 |
red_ | not yet, i tried with aqualung, gnome player and mplayer | 07:52 |
red_ | hmm vlc video playback stutters too. Maybe i should try installing some drivers (video at least). | 08:03 |
red_ | ok, ive found out my VGA chip via terminal :))) haha this feels great | 08:10 |
red_ | brb | 09:24 |
red_ | ok it seems stuttering isnt occuring on mplayer | 09:31 |
red_ | i followed this guide | 09:31 |
red_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes | 09:31 |
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Jef91 | Does PCManFM support network shares at all? | 09:42 |
jmarsden | Jef91: Yes, but for SAMBA/Windows share discovery you need to install gvfs-backend | 09:47 |
jmarsden | See bug #675212 | 09:48 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 675212 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Maverick) "Add gvfs-backends to lubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675212 | 09:48 |
jmarsden | Oh, make that gvfs-backends | 09:48 |
Jef91 | Yea | 09:48 |
Jef91 | found that | 09:48 |
Jef91 | its OK I installed the latest 0.9.3 from source | 09:49 |
Jef91 | I have gvfs-backends installed | 09:50 |
Jef91 | how do I view the network shares now? | 09:50 |
Jef91 | ahh found it | 09:51 |
jmarsden | Go -> network drives I think? | 09:52 |
Jef91 | (pcmanfm2:29484): GLib-WARNING **: GError set over the top of a previous GError or uninitialized memory. | 09:52 |
Jef91 | This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is NULL before it's set. | 09:52 |
Jef91 | The overwriting error message was: The specified location is not mounted | 09:52 |
Jef91 | Segmentation fault | 09:52 |
Jef91 | >.< | 09:52 |
Jef91 | Is there a way for it to ask to mount when selecting a network drive not mounted? | 09:52 |
jmarsden | I don't know. Ask on the lubuntu-desktop mailing list, or wait for more people to be awake :) | 09:53 |
Jef91 | Thanks | 09:56 |
Jef91 | sent the email | 09:56 |
Jef91 | wow lots of good things in PCMan 0.9.3 | 09:57 |
Jef91 | this might actually replace nautilus for me finally. | 09:57 |
Jef91 | Any idea if there is a way to have a "Split screen" mode? Thats a feature I've really gotten used to | 09:57 |
LXCC-Vincenzo | hi hall, i've a problem on Lubuntu 10.4 : i cannot enter using login screen but i can enter with ctrl+alt+f1. Then i've killed lxdm and tryied to use startx but this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572993/ any idea? | 10:22 |
Jef91 | lxcc-vincenzo | 10:26 |
Jef91 | sudo /etc/init.d/lxdm restart | 10:26 |
Jef91 | to restart the display manager | 10:26 |
Jef91 | in lubuntu | 10:26 |
LXCC-Vincenzo | tnx Jef91 i'll try. sorry for delay my eeepc 701 is slow. | 10:38 |
Jef91 | No worries :) | 10:38 |
Jef91 | Okie doke - almost 5 am here time for some sleep | 10:42 |
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bioterror | souns like encrypted home | 10:48 |
bioterror | sounds | 10:48 |
red_ | bio, would you like to add video troubleshooting tab to your guide? | 11:23 |
red_ | nothing special, just the hyperlink to here would be sufficient i guess | 11:24 |
red_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video | 11:24 |
red_ | and step maybe, determine your video card using lspci | grep VGA | 11:24 |
LXCC-Vincenzo | I've a problem on Lubuntu 10.4 : i cannot enter using login screen but i can enter with ctrl+alt+f1. Then i've killed lxdm and tryied to use startx but this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572993/ any idea? | 12:58 |
leszek | hi | 13:28 |
mark76 | Hey Leszek | 13:30 |
NRWlion | hello guys . greetings from Germany | 13:55 |
leszek | NRWlion: schöne grüße zurück | 13:56 |
leszek | and btw. a greeting from nrw (cologne, here) back to nrw :) | 13:57 |
NRWlion | leszek, good to finally meet people from my region ;) | 14:00 |
red_ | linux.org is down and so are their lessons :/ | 14:37 |
red_ | any alternatives? | 14:37 |
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red_ | bioterror you here? | 19:03 |
bioterror | sure | 19:07 |
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red_ | im starting to enjoy lubuntu :) | 19:22 |
red_ | bro even helped me with the samba setup to connect to my hackintosh | 19:23 |
red_ | anyway i was just going to say, if you were considering including "video" section in your lubuntu 101 link | 19:24 |
red_ | like just the basic, i.e. type sudo ... to determine your gpu then go here etc etc | 19:24 |
bioterror | what | 19:25 |
bioterror | I'm not making screen casts ;) | 19:25 |
red_ | nah nah not a screen cast | 19:25 |
red_ | just a new hyperlink | 19:25 |
red_ | speaking of your guide i can't find :( | 19:28 |
red_ | i've had it b'marked in chromium | 19:28 |
red_ | but i purged it and have opera instead | 19:28 |
red_ | its a bit faster and less ram hungry i suppose | 19:28 |
bioterror | Sat21:49*<bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ at the end you have a guide | 19:29 |
bioterror | yes and no | 19:29 |
bioterror | opera has universe inside it | 19:29 |
red_ | i c | 19:38 |
r\wWorld | would anyone tell me if lubuntu uses ALSA ? | 19:38 |
bioterror | r\wWorld, uses | 19:38 |
r\wWorld | so if i install flashplayer from the repos should i install the add-on as well ? | 19:40 |
bioterror | sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree | 19:41 |
bioterror | or flashplugin-installer | 19:41 |
r\wWorld | also i'm trying to get firefox to recognize emails. So when you click on the them, thunderbird opens up, with the address already added. What should i do inorder to get this functionality ? | 19:47 |
bioterror | from preferences default applications | 19:48 |
r\wWorld | ugh it doesn't work | 19:51 |
bioterror | what? | 19:51 |
bioterror | email? | 19:51 |
r\wWorld | yeah, when you click on the email link in the web-browser nothing opens up | 19:52 |
r\wWorld | it just opens up a new browser windows | 19:53 |
bioterror | do I have to boot back to lubuntu :D | 19:53 |
bioterror | oh look | 19:57 |
bioterror | I got that too :D | 19:57 |
* bioterror goes to dig | 19:57 | |
bioterror | nice bug that is | 19:59 |
r\wWorld | ? | 20:01 |
r\wWorld | i hate 'em bugs | 20:02 |
* r\wWorld grabs his shoe | 20:02 | |
bioterror | uno momento | 20:02 |
bioterror | almost | 20:03 |
bioterror | doesnt open browser :D | 20:03 |
bioterror | ffffffffffffffffffffffffff | 20:05 |
bioterror | gilir, WAKEUP | 20:05 |
bioterror | well | 20:12 |
bioterror | technically I fixed that | 20:12 |
jmarsden | You woke him up? Cool, can I have that app please? :) | 20:12 |
bioterror | nope, I just fixed mailto: -links | 20:13 |
jmarsden | Ah, that's no as much fun :) | 20:13 |
bioterror | to open sylpheed and add address to "to:" form | 20:13 |
bioterror | this is failure | 20:16 |
jmarsden | Is there a bug in the defaults that we should fix in lubuntu-default-settings or similar?? | 20:16 |
bioterror | yes and no | 20:16 |
bioterror | let's say | 20:17 |
bioterror | if you have email which has URL | 20:17 |
bioterror | and you click that URL | 20:17 |
bioterror | it will call /usr/bin/x-www-browser | 20:18 |
bioterror | aka /usr/bin/sensible-browser | 20:18 |
jmarsden | Which is the right thing to do... yes? | 20:18 |
bioterror | yes | 20:18 |
bioterror | now when we have webpage with this mailto: | 20:19 |
bioterror | when you click it, it will call /usr/bin/xdg-email | 20:19 |
bioterror | and we have there: | 20:19 |
bioterror | open_generic() | 20:19 |
bioterror | { | 20:19 |
bioterror | sensible-browser "$1" | 20:19 |
bioterror | ... | 20:19 |
bioterror | I replaced that with sylpheed --compose "$1" | 20:20 |
bioterror | but we dont have sensible-mailer | 20:20 |
bioterror | which we SHOULD HAVE | 20:20 |
bioterror | we have to manually say which email client we want to call | 20:21 |
bioterror | r\wWorld, that's why it opens a web browser, becouse LXDE uses generic and there's a configuration to use "browser" | 20:22 |
jmarsden | Hmmm. So we will need to override xdg-email with an Lubuntu-specific default of sylpheed, it sounds like. | 20:24 |
r\wWorld | so if i add the sylpheed --compose "$1" all should be good | 20:24 |
bioterror | sylpheed is default | 20:24 |
bioterror | but if someone wants to use thunderbird, he needs to replace then the sylpheed with thunderbird | 20:25 |
bioterror | thunderbird -compose | 20:26 |
bioterror | and those should be done with "preferred applications" | 20:26 |
bioterror | and it could be done, if we had a "sensible-mailer" :D | 20:26 |
bioterror | I say: epic fail | 20:27 |
jmarsden | Not a bad idea... you can add that to the sensible-utils package if you want, should be a relatively small change :) | 20:27 |
r\wWorld | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/03/msg00187.html | 20:28 |
jmarsden | I was wondering about a $MAILER type of thing, like $PAGER and $EDITOR... interesting... anyway, instead of discussing it, better to implement it and see if we can get something accepted :) | 20:30 |
r\wWorld | wb | 20:31 |
jmarsden | Note to self: ctrl-q in Xchat is NOT the same as ctrl-q in Emacs :) | 20:31 |
bioterror | hah | 20:31 |
bioterror | with VIM you would use esc... | 20:32 |
bioterror | I have to dig this | 20:33 |
r\wWorld | yeah, one of the biggest issues in linux with new users, the keys for applications is always different | 20:33 |
bioterror | this is a real issue | 20:33 |
bioterror | and not a small one | 20:33 |
jmarsden | New users generally won't use shortcut keys anyway, just the menus :) But once they start getting comfortable, yes, it is an issue. | 20:34 |
r\wWorld | well atleast ctrl+c and ctrl+v are for the most part the same everywhere..... except MatLAB on Unix | 20:35 |
bioterror | hmmmm | 20:36 |
bioterror | preferred application doesnt work right | 20:36 |
bioterror | I opened abiword, made a hyperlink to mailto://myemail@address.com | 20:36 |
bioterror | and it just opens sylpheed, nothing else | 20:37 |
jmarsden | r\wWorld: Don't try them in Emacs or vi, then :) Or at a shell prompt for that matter :) | 20:39 |
bioterror | okey | 20:41 |
bioterror | preferred applications uses .config/libfm/pref-apps.conf | 20:42 |
bioterror | and there's a link to sylpheed.desktop | 20:42 |
bioterror | no wonder why it doesnt compose a message | 20:43 |
bioterror | now I can enjoy some chocolate | 20:48 |
bioterror | preferred application should call xdg-email?! | 20:49 |
bioterror | :D | 20:49 |
bioterror | why o why there's no /usr/bin/x-emailer or something like that | 20:53 |
bioterror | it would solve alot of problems | 20:53 |
* r\wWorld is making himself some cookies | 20:55 | |
r\wWorld | https://pragmaticattic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/pistachio-almond-apricot-cranberry-cookie-thins/ | 20:55 |
jmarsden | bioterror: There is /usr/bin/xdg-email -- it just doesn't "know about" Lubuntu and so when run under Lubuntu it defaults to generic. Adding some Lubuntu-knowledge to the whole sensible-utils package would be a good thing, IMO. | 21:16 |
bioterror | yeah | 21:18 |
bioterror | and I tweaked the generic | 21:18 |
bioterror | there's sensible-browser as default :D | 21:18 |
bioterror | like wtf?! :D | 21:18 |
jmarsden | So submit a patch :) | 21:18 |
bioterror | there's really no patch for it | 21:18 |
bioterror | and lxde is still without a real email client and so on | 21:19 |
jmarsden | Sure there is, xdg-email can and should detect Lubuntu just as it detects GNOME and KDE, and act appropriately. | 21:19 |
bioterror | it should detect LXDE, not Lubuntu | 21:20 |
bioterror | but there's no "default email client" for the LXDE | 21:20 |
jmarsden | Sure. Maybe it could detect LXDE and then check for sylpheed and then thunderbird, or whatever set of apps makes sense. | 21:20 |
bioterror | yes | 21:20 |
jmarsden | No hard, just a few lines of shell script... so ... write the patch :) | 21:20 |
bioterror | for example SalixOS uses Claws-Mail for their LXDE | 21:22 |
bioterror | OpenSuse LXDE uses Claws too | 21:22 |
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red_ | g'nite | 21:24 |
red_ | cya around | 21:24 |
bioterror | not so sure, but Mint 10 LXDE might use Thunderbird | 21:28 |
bioterror | that makes it difficult | 21:36 |
bioterror | with gnome you can call evolution and then thunderbird | 21:36 |
bioterror | with kde you can call kmail | 21:36 |
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szczur | hmm, my firefox run mailto: links without problems | 21:38 |
bioterror | how about you chromium | 21:38 |
bioterror | your | 21:38 |
szczur | gimme 5 sec | 21:39 |
bioterror | you have 2 | 21:39 |
bioterror | :D | 21:39 |
szczur | oh noes, mu synaptic's so slow | 21:39 |
szczur | i lost | 21:39 |
bioterror | synaptic :o | 21:40 |
szczur | i like it :) | 21:40 |
bioterror | sure | 21:40 |
szczur | hmm, i n chromium it starts up firefox, then thunderbird >_> | 21:45 |
r\wWorld | szczur, how did you install firefox ? | 21:52 |
szczur | sudo apt-get install firefox | 21:52 |
r\wWorld | well that install gnome among other things | 21:54 |
r\wWorld | will* | 21:55 |
szczur | sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install firefox | 21:55 |
Kras | yo all | 22:33 |
Kras | szczur are you there? | 22:33 |
szczur | Kras, hello | 22:41 |
Kras | yo | 22:41 |
Kras | moge na priv ? | 22:41 |
szczur | ooo :) | 22:41 |
szczur | nie ma problemu :) | 22:42 |
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