[01:05] <Sparklez> rtdos: yesterday I mentioned a slow-down problem with lubuntu under a different handle (Ak1ra) and you asked if my gentoo (slow-down free) machines ran lxde, and I said yes :) thoughts on that?
[06:00] <seal> Hi all, how do you get dual monitor to work?
[06:01] <seal> I only see double screen - is there a way to view extended monitor like in ubuntu 10.10
[06:01] <seal> My lubuntu Setup: 10.10 on acer 5735z
[06:05] <bioterror> http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/01 maybe?!
[06:06] <seal> thanks just checking
[06:06] <bioterror> anyways
[06:06] <bioterror> google :D
[06:06] <bioterror> most of the lubuntu users are having ancient hardware :D
[06:07] <seal> tried that - have you notice not much comes up for lubuntu?
[06:07] <seal> I am seriously thinking of jumping back to ubuntu as it is friendlier
[06:08] <seal> for noob like me - more support
[06:23] <seal> bitterror - thanks for your help ;)
[07:29] <red_> hello
[07:32] <bioterror> hi
[07:44] <red_> bioterror, do you have any idea, what might be causing video and auido playback glitch (stutter)?
[07:45] <bioterror> I have to admit thatI dont know
[07:45] <red_> My specs are: 1ghz centrino, 512mb ram, shared gpu, its 2005 laptop samsung Q30
[07:45] <red_> i tried the cmd mplayer
[07:45] <red_> and even that doesnt run smoothly
[07:45] <bioterror> you mean just videos has problems?
[07:45] <red_> audio too
[07:46] <red_> mp3s
[07:46] <bioterror> haaa
[07:47] <bioterror> samsung Q30 == Dell Latitude X1
[07:47] <red_> yes apparently, badge engineering :)
[07:51] <bioterror> I have no clue, and neither is internets telling nothing much
[07:51] <red_> no its a funky thing to google, i'll try some more googling
[07:51] <bioterror> did you try with VLC?
[07:52] <red_> not yet, i tried with aqualung, gnome player and mplayer
[08:03] <red_> hmm vlc video playback stutters too. Maybe i should try installing some drivers (video at least).
[08:10] <red_> ok, ive found out my VGA chip via terminal :))) haha this feels great
[09:24] <red_> brb
[09:31] <red_> ok it seems stuttering isnt occuring on mplayer
[09:31] <red_> i followed this guide
[09:31] <red_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[09:42] <Jef91> Does PCManFM support network shares at all?
[09:47] <jmarsden> Jef91: Yes, but for SAMBA/Windows share discovery you need to install gvfs-backend
[09:48] <jmarsden> See bug #675212
[09:48] <jmarsden> Oh, make that gvfs-backends
[09:48] <Jef91> Yea
[09:48] <Jef91> found that
[09:49] <Jef91> its OK I installed the latest 0.9.3 from source
[09:50] <Jef91> I have gvfs-backends installed
[09:50] <Jef91> how do I view the network shares now?
[09:51] <Jef91> ahh found it
[09:52] <jmarsden> Go -> network drives    I think?
[09:52] <Jef91> (pcmanfm2:29484): GLib-WARNING **: GError set over the top of a previous GError or uninitialized memory.
[09:52] <Jef91> This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is NULL before it's set.
[09:52] <Jef91> The overwriting error message was: The specified location is not mounted
[09:52] <Jef91> Segmentation fault
[09:52] <Jef91> >.<
[09:52] <Jef91> Is there a way for it to ask to mount when selecting a network drive not mounted?
[09:53] <jmarsden> I don't know. Ask on the lubuntu-desktop mailing list, or wait for more people to be awake :)
[09:56] <Jef91> Thanks
[09:56] <Jef91> sent the email
[09:57] <Jef91> wow lots of good things in PCMan 0.9.3
[09:57] <Jef91> this might actually replace nautilus for me finally.
[09:57] <Jef91> Any idea if there is a way to have a "Split screen" mode? Thats a feature I've really gotten used to
[10:22] <LXCC-Vincenzo> hi hall, i've a problem on Lubuntu 10.4 : i cannot enter using login screen but i can enter with ctrl+alt+f1. Then i've killed lxdm and tryied to use startx but this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572993/  any idea?
[10:26] <Jef91> lxcc-vincenzo
[10:26] <Jef91> sudo /etc/init.d/lxdm restart
[10:26] <Jef91> to restart the display manager
[10:26] <Jef91> in lubuntu
[10:38] <LXCC-Vincenzo> tnx Jef91 i'll try. sorry for delay my eeepc 701 is slow.
[10:38] <Jef91> No worries :)
[10:42] <Jef91> Okie doke - almost 5 am here time for some sleep
[10:48] <bioterror> souns like encrypted home
[10:48] <bioterror> sounds
[11:23] <red_> bio, would you like to add video troubleshooting tab to your guide?
[11:24] <red_> nothing special, just the hyperlink to here would be sufficient i guess
[11:24] <red_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[11:24] <red_> and step maybe, determine your video card using lspci | grep VGA
[12:58] <LXCC-Vincenzo> I've a problem on Lubuntu 10.4 : i cannot enter using login screen but i can enter with ctrl+alt+f1. Then i've killed lxdm and tryied to use startx but this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572993/  any idea?
[13:28] <leszek> hi
[13:30] <mark76> Hey Leszek
[13:55] <NRWlion> hello guys . greetings from Germany
[13:56] <leszek> NRWlion: schöne grüße zurück
[13:57] <leszek> and btw. a greeting from nrw (cologne, here) back to nrw :)
[14:00] <NRWlion> leszek, good to finally meet people from my region ;)
[14:37] <red_> linux.org is down and so are their lessons :/
[14:37] <red_> any alternatives?
[19:03] <red_> bioterror you here?
[19:07] <bioterror> sure
[19:22] <red_> im starting to enjoy lubuntu :)
[19:23] <red_> bro even helped me with the samba setup to connect to my hackintosh
[19:24] <red_> anyway i was just going to say, if you were considering including "video" section in your lubuntu 101 link
[19:24] <red_> like just the basic, i.e. type sudo ... to determine your gpu then go here etc etc
[19:25] <bioterror> what
[19:25] <bioterror> I'm not making screen casts ;)
[19:25] <red_> nah nah not a screen cast
[19:25] <red_> just a new hyperlink
[19:28] <red_> speaking of your guide i can't find :(
[19:28] <red_> i've had it b'marked in chromium
[19:28] <red_> but i purged it and have opera instead
[19:28] <red_> its a bit faster and less ram hungry i suppose
[19:29] <bioterror> Sat21:49*<bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ at the end you have a guide
[19:29] <bioterror> yes and no
[19:29] <bioterror> opera has universe inside it
[19:38] <red_> i c
[19:38] <r\wWorld> would anyone tell me if lubuntu uses ALSA ?
[19:38] <bioterror> r\wWorld, uses
[19:40] <r\wWorld> so if i install flashplayer from the repos should i install the add-on as well ?
[19:41] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:41] <bioterror> or flashplugin-installer
[19:47] <r\wWorld> also i'm trying to get firefox to recognize emails. So when you click on the them, thunderbird opens up, with the address already added. What should i do inorder to get this functionality ?
[19:48] <bioterror> from preferences default applications
[19:51] <r\wWorld> ugh it doesn't work
[19:51] <bioterror> what?
[19:51] <bioterror> email?
[19:52] <r\wWorld> yeah, when you click on the email link in the web-browser nothing opens up
[19:53] <r\wWorld> it just opens up a new browser windows
[19:53] <bioterror> do I have to boot back to lubuntu :D
[19:57] <bioterror> oh look
[19:57] <bioterror> I got that too :D
[19:57]  * bioterror goes to dig
[19:59] <bioterror> nice bug that is
[20:01] <r\wWorld> ?
[20:02] <r\wWorld> i hate 'em bugs
[20:02]  * r\wWorld grabs his shoe
[20:02] <bioterror> uno momento
[20:03] <bioterror> almost
[20:03] <bioterror> doesnt open browser :D
[20:05] <bioterror> ffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[20:05] <bioterror> gilir, WAKEUP
[20:12] <bioterror> well
[20:12] <bioterror> technically I fixed that
[20:12] <jmarsden> You woke him up?  Cool, can I have that app please? :)
[20:13] <bioterror> nope, I just fixed mailto: -links
[20:13] <jmarsden> Ah, that's no as much fun :)
[20:13] <bioterror> to open sylpheed and add address to "to:" form
[20:16] <bioterror> this is failure
[20:16] <jmarsden> Is there a bug in the defaults that we should fix in lubuntu-default-settings or similar??
[20:16] <bioterror> yes and no
[20:17] <bioterror> let's say
[20:17] <bioterror> if you have email which has URL
[20:17] <bioterror> and you click that URL
[20:18] <bioterror> it will call /usr/bin/x-www-browser
[20:18] <bioterror> aka /usr/bin/sensible-browser
[20:18] <jmarsden> Which is the right thing to do... yes?
[20:18] <bioterror> yes
[20:19] <bioterror> now when we have webpage with this mailto:
[20:19] <bioterror> when you click it, it will call /usr/bin/xdg-email
[20:19] <bioterror> and we have there:
[20:19] <bioterror> open_generic()
[20:19] <bioterror> {
[20:19] <bioterror> sensible-browser "$1"
[20:19] <bioterror> ...
[20:20] <bioterror> I replaced that with sylpheed --compose "$1"
[20:20] <bioterror> but we dont have sensible-mailer
[20:20] <bioterror> which we SHOULD HAVE
[20:21] <bioterror> we have to manually say which email client we want to call
[20:22] <bioterror> r\wWorld, that's why it opens a web browser, becouse LXDE uses generic and there's a configuration to use "browser"
[20:24] <jmarsden> Hmmm.  So we will need to override xdg-email with an Lubuntu-specific default of sylpheed, it sounds like.
[20:24] <r\wWorld> so if i add the sylpheed --compose "$1" all should be good
[20:24] <bioterror> sylpheed is default
[20:25] <bioterror> but if someone wants to use thunderbird, he needs to replace then the sylpheed with thunderbird
[20:26] <bioterror> thunderbird -compose
[20:26] <bioterror> and those should be done with "preferred applications"
[20:26] <bioterror> and it could be done, if we had a "sensible-mailer" :D
[20:27] <bioterror> I say: epic fail
[20:27] <jmarsden> Not a bad idea... you can add that to the sensible-utils package if you want, should be a relatively small change :)
[20:28] <r\wWorld> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/03/msg00187.html
[20:30] <jmarsden> I was wondering about a $MAILER type of thing, like $PAGER and $EDITOR... interesting... anyway, instead of discussing it, better to implement it and see if we can get something accepted :)
[20:31] <r\wWorld> wb
[20:31] <jmarsden> Note to self: ctrl-q in Xchat is NOT the same as ctrl-q in Emacs :)
[20:31] <bioterror> hah
[20:32] <bioterror> with VIM you would use esc...
[20:33] <bioterror> I have to dig this
[20:33] <r\wWorld> yeah, one of  the biggest issues in linux with new users, the keys for applications is always different
[20:33] <bioterror> this is a real issue
[20:33] <bioterror> and not a small one
[20:34] <jmarsden> New users generally won't use shortcut keys anyway, just the menus :)  But once they start getting comfortable, yes, it is an issue.
[20:35] <r\wWorld> well atleast ctrl+c and ctrl+v are for the most part the same everywhere..... except MatLAB on Unix
[20:36] <bioterror> hmmmm
[20:36] <bioterror> preferred application doesnt work right
[20:36] <bioterror> I opened abiword, made a hyperlink to mailto://myemail@address.com
[20:37] <bioterror> and it just opens sylpheed, nothing else
[20:39] <jmarsden> r\wWorld: Don't try them in Emacs or vi, then :)  Or at a shell prompt for that matter :)
[20:41] <bioterror> okey
[20:42] <bioterror> preferred applications uses .config/libfm/pref-apps.conf
[20:42] <bioterror> and there's a link to sylpheed.desktop
[20:43] <bioterror> no wonder why it doesnt compose a message
[20:48] <bioterror> now I can enjoy some chocolate
[20:49] <bioterror> preferred application should call xdg-email?!
[20:49] <bioterror> :D
[20:53] <bioterror> why o why there's no /usr/bin/x-emailer or something like that
[20:53] <bioterror> it would solve alot of problems
[20:55]  * r\wWorld is making himself some cookies
[20:55] <r\wWorld> https://pragmaticattic.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/pistachio-almond-apricot-cranberry-cookie-thins/
[21:16] <jmarsden> bioterror: There is /usr/bin/xdg-email -- it just doesn't "know about" Lubuntu and so when run under Lubuntu it defaults to generic.  Adding some Lubuntu-knowledge to the whole sensible-utils package would be a good thing, IMO.
[21:18] <bioterror> yeah
[21:18] <bioterror> and I tweaked the generic
[21:18] <bioterror> there's sensible-browser as default :D
[21:18] <bioterror> like wtf?! :D
[21:18] <jmarsden> So submit a patch :)
[21:18] <bioterror> there's really no patch for it
[21:19] <bioterror> and lxde is still without a real email client and so on
[21:19] <jmarsden> Sure there is, xdg-email can and should detect Lubuntu just as it detects GNOME and KDE, and act appropriately.
[21:20] <bioterror> it should detect LXDE, not Lubuntu
[21:20] <bioterror> but there's  no "default email client" for the LXDE
[21:20] <jmarsden> Sure.  Maybe it could detect LXDE and then check for sylpheed and then thunderbird, or whatever set of apps makes sense.
[21:20] <bioterror> yes
[21:20] <jmarsden> No hard, just a few lines of shell script... so ... write the patch :)
[21:22] <bioterror> for example SalixOS uses Claws-Mail for their LXDE
[21:22] <bioterror> OpenSuse LXDE uses Claws too
[21:24] <red_> g'nite
[21:24] <red_> cya around
[21:28] <bioterror> not so sure, but Mint 10 LXDE might use Thunderbird
[21:36] <bioterror> that makes it difficult
[21:36] <bioterror> with gnome you can call evolution and then thunderbird
[21:36] <bioterror> with kde you can call kmail
[21:38] <szczur> hmm, my firefox run mailto: links without problems
[21:38] <bioterror> how about you chromium
[21:38] <bioterror> your
[21:39] <szczur> gimme 5 sec
[21:39] <bioterror> you have 2
[21:39] <bioterror> :D
[21:39] <szczur> oh noes, mu synaptic's so slow
[21:39] <szczur> i lost
[21:40] <bioterror> synaptic :o
[21:40] <szczur> i like it :)
[21:40] <bioterror> sure
[21:45] <szczur> hmm, i n chromium it starts up firefox, then thunderbird >_>
[21:52] <r\wWorld> szczur, how did you install firefox ?
[21:52] <szczur> sudo apt-get install firefox
[21:54] <r\wWorld> well that install gnome among other things
[21:55] <r\wWorld> will*
[21:55] <szczur> sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install firefox
[22:33] <Kras> yo all
[22:33] <Kras> szczur are you there?
[22:41] <szczur> Kras, hello
[22:41] <Kras> yo
[22:41] <Kras> moge na priv ?
[22:41] <szczur> ooo :)
[22:42] <szczur> nie ma problemu :)