[00:02] chibihogoshino: look who's back [00:02] mmmmm :-) [00:12] http://xkcd.com/864/ [00:13] that's a good one [00:21] lol .. [00:50] chibihogoshino: you like it ;-) [00:50] yeah [00:50] i can soo see that happening [01:29] oh man, guys.. I just woke up, and thought it was 7:30am [01:29] and I was freaking out going 'I don't even remember what happened after I got home yesterday! [01:29] ' [01:37] ouch, lol [01:37] yes. lol [01:37] then the girlfriend goes 'why do you think it should be light out?' I said 'i guess it's from cloud cover or something' as we're suposed to have more rain today. [01:38] then she says 'wait, what do you mean, when we got home today or yesterday?' and I said 'waht do you mean y esterday we haven't gone anywhere its 7 o'clock in the morning!' [01:38] she said 'uhh.... it's evening'. [01:49] ouch [01:50] and it is somewhat dark at 7am [01:50] and 7pm [01:50] yeah atm it is. [01:51] anyway I am working on a big project for a professor of mine. :D am excited. [01:51] this is unrelated, but do you use dropbox? [01:52] I have in the past [01:52] the account does little now [01:52] ah. [01:53] rsync scripts and a server makes it less useful [01:53] Am having an issue w/ it on linux. it's odd, the website says latest version is 1.xxxx, but their downloads pages only have .6xxx, yet I have .7xxx installed, and the repos give no update. [01:53] cyberanger, would love to get into that, but for now until I learn it dropbox makes it simple. [01:57] rsync isn't that hard, since I already run a server, no real data on it (my irc client and a public opennic dns server, not much in data space) it's not enough for a backup of everything, but it's more than dropbox for free [01:57] yeah [01:57] not sure on dropbox, is it saying the app itself or a supporting lib? [01:58] the app itself. [01:58] nautilis-dropbox is the repo [01:58] package [01:58] nautilus* [01:58] which I don't use [01:58] yeah. [01:58] lucid? [01:59] I use the cli app [01:59] maverick [02:00] btw what irc client do you use? [02:01] I use a few, irssi and weechat mainly [02:01] andchat too [02:01] but not as often as the other tow [02:01] but not as often as the other two [02:02] weechat? O_o [02:02] do you use any type of a BNC? [02:03] no, not in a while [02:03] gnu screen and ssh make that a bit moot [02:04] weechat is a cross between xchat and irssi, in it's UI [02:04] many other features [02:04] I primarly use it's FIFO plugin lately [02:08] FIFO plugin? first in - first out? what does that do for it? [02:09] a pipe [02:09] programming pipe [02:10] first in first out being the acrynomym [02:10] I believe [02:10] Ah [02:10] well, I've used it to send topics to a channel, based in a bash script [02:10] nicie [02:10] nice* [02:11] for this channel, that's useful for meeting day (with plans to automate it further) [02:11] Nice. [02:11] I am thinking of taking an intro to linux course this summer [02:11] just for the credit hours [02:12] and to send a msg in this channel saying I'm running late, but start the meeting (never sent, since I seem to cancel it, usually since I'm here) [02:12] techMiles: can you run a line, might help figure out your issue [02:12] and to fill in what gaps there are in my knowledge so far as intro-stuff. [02:12] a line of code? sure [02:12] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first (in case the update is there) [02:13] did that but will anyway [02:13] can't hurt to do it again [02:13] (don't have to actually update things, just in case it got missed the first time) [02:13] There are some, but I'm not sure if they'er ht eproblem or not. [02:13] then apt-cache showpkg nautilis-dropbox | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us [02:14] they're good to update anyway... had to uninstall part of these that it found with the dist-upgrade due to an issue on the dist-upgrade. kept erroring before i uninstalled. [02:14] I included the curl bit, since it's a lot of output, best to pastebin [02:14] bunch of xserver-xorg stuff [02:15] xorg, ugh, that stuff allways seems to conflict badly with itself, on a major upgrade, one reason I do a custom install, less xorg gear [02:15] I can output to a .txt file yeah and copy paste to pastebin? [02:15] yeah. [02:16] that command should give you a url with http://sprunge.us/ like http://sprunge.us/FiFo [02:16] thus skipping that bit [02:16] oh, you don't have curl, do you? [02:16] I'd like to but have yet to find a lot of time! [02:16] am thinking of going with arch [02:16] when there's time to do it all [02:16] Ahhhh ok. [02:16] well the internet here is messing up so I'll hafta wait a bit for it to update the xorg stuff [02:17] well, I was just wanting you to look at the list [02:17] btw, you can tell it sudo apt-get -d install, to limit it to a download for later install [02:18] apt-get will not install without all packages downloaded with clean checksums [02:18] btw, there a way to get it so that hilighting text in a terminal window automagically copies it, and right-click will automagically paste the clipboard? [02:19] but a checksum match does not insure an upgrade error is prevented [02:19] highlight and middle click [02:19] brb [02:19] no middle-click. [02:20] :( [02:20] http://sprunge.us/IcZQ [02:21] what's your terminal? [02:21] hmm? [02:21] gnome-terminal? an actual tty? [02:21] just Terminal. [02:22] oh [02:22] gnome-terminal [02:22] you did do sudo apt-get update at least, right? [02:22] ydes [02:23] version is 0.6.7 [02:24] are you using an unoffical client? [02:24] no. [02:25] but your version is 0.7XX [02:25] ? [02:25] and not 0.6.7 [02:25] yes [02:26] 0.7.11 [02:26] but on the dropbox website to download, it says version 1.xxx [02:26] https://www.dropbox.com/install [02:28] am going to get the file via their forums methinks [02:28] ah, that explains it [02:28] no, your fine, sorta [02:28] linux is off [02:29] hm? [02:30] seems the cli client is at the same version, but the nautlius version is shuffled a bit [02:30] and that might be why [02:31] idk, I guess going to the forum and asking about the inconsistancy is ok [02:31] but if that's your only error, version numbering, you should be ok [02:31] i think they reverted due to so many issues.. [02:32] a lot of issues happened with 1.xxxx apparently [02:32] but I might need to reinstall it. it isn't wanting to sync. -_- go figure. [02:32] idk if it will do LAN sync or not [02:33] reinstall wouldn't hurt [02:33] but it'd be to a less-recent version. [02:33] unless I used the link in the forums [02:33] my suspicions are the natilus code, they reverted to last stable [02:33] better it works, in this case [02:33] yeah [02:34] offical source, via a repo [02:34] but my 0.7.110 (at least for awhile) worked just fine. [02:34] so I guess will apt-get uninstall nautilus-dropbox and reinstall [02:34] sudo apt-get purge nautilus-dropbox, && sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox [02:34] that'll do it (since it's still in your sources.list [02:34] no comma, yes? lol [02:35] it can, read, should be done that way) [02:35] oh, lol, right [02:35] no comma [02:35] and perhaps needing spellcheck [02:35] lol [02:35] hmm unable to locate package nautilus-dropbox [02:36] sudo apt-get purge nautilus-dropbox [02:36] sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox [02:36] oh, hrm [02:37] well, sudo apt-get update too? [02:37] or another download after all [02:37] still 'cannot locate' [02:38] http://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb [02:38] or was purge the issue [02:39] flight delayed an hour, ugh [02:40] wtf. [02:40] it says 'sorry, nautilus-dropbox not available for this type of computer (i386) [02:40] yet I tried the x64 version earlier, and it failed. [02:40] and apt-get update goes through i386 packages [02:41] clicking install anyway [02:41] it shows 0.7.110 as the version # [02:42] heh, well, you could use the command line version too I suppose [02:42] I hadn't used it in awhile, but it did work [02:42] lol... [02:42] I'd rather not if I can avoid it [02:43] eventually I'm going to get a disc (since my bootable USB drive didn't even get booted to no matter what I did) of 10.10 and clean isntall [02:44] what disc do you need? [02:44] you mean an image, or actual disc? [02:44] I mean burn a disc of the image I have of 10.10 [02:46] ah, which image, and what's the holdup [02:46] the 10.10 desktop image, and I don't know what the holdup is. [02:46] I insert the flashdrive, push the power button and it never boots to it [02:46] and I chcked -- USB is the first in the boot priority [02:47] I think, and sincerely hope that the reading of my CPU temperature is wrong. [02:47] and I'm sure it is. [02:47] it says 84. [02:48] it's going down.... it might be right but it should plummet as the fan is running really high. [02:48] *sigh* this poor laptop. === orias is now known as |0_o| === |0_o| is now known as [0_o] === [0_o] is now known as {0_o} [02:53] F or C? [02:54] how'd you make your boot disc [02:54] cyberanger, universal usb installer? the one Ubuntu has on their downloads page. [02:54] and pretty sure it's C/ === {0_o} is now known as orias [02:54] yeah C. [02:54] otherwise I'd be worried it was cold. lol [02:58] 84C or 84F isn't really 'cold' [02:58] no, but now it's 52. [02:58] if it was 52F it'd be a bit chilly [03:07] lol [03:07] it's back to 51 [03:07] this poor thing--- I am HARD on laptops if they're my only machine. [03:07] and this one was for a year and a half [03:07] I'd have it sitting in the back of my car burning a DVD while I drove from my house to my grandmother's or the reverse. [03:08] that's not bad, that's cruel [03:09] >.> [03:09] I was i 11th grade, and it took 4 hours. I was impatient, apparently. [03:10] very [03:10] it still runs great. [03:10] I always kept it on a cooling pad or stand that's made to keep it cooler [03:13] but when you're a growing geek and have no other machine to use that isn't 4+ years old it's hard to resist. [03:13] oh, I agree [03:14] that was actually a turning point when I started getting significantly more interesting in all things computer [03:14] just a matter of how far I agree [03:14] yeah. [03:15] :( [03:15] if I may suggest, a different install, you'll want the same iso if you do a custom install too [03:16] alright [03:16] cp http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso && sudo apt-get install zsync && http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso.zsync [03:16] the alternate image [03:16] what's the zsync ? [03:17] less resource intensive, drops the live bits, but can do more custom installs, or in your case, a standard one, just less machine needed at install [03:17] zsync is similar to rsync [03:18] since you already have the desktop image, by cp'ing over [03:18] and running that, most of the image is already downloaded [03:18] but that'll grab the other bits, and merge [03:19] okay. so copy and paste that command into CLI? [03:19] you might want to check checksums for good measure too (as you should anyways) wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/SHA256SUMS http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/SHA256SUMS.gpg [03:19] yeah, looks good for c&p [03:20] got checksums [03:20] cp: cannot stat `http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso': No such file or directory [03:22] what command gave that [03:22] oh, doh [03:22] see why i needs ta learn more? lol [03:22] zsync http://releases.ubuntu.com/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso.zsync [03:23] Igoofed that [03:23] installing zsync [03:23] nothing critical, just multitasking poorly [03:23] cp ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso [03:24] it's zsync ing that iso.zsync link [03:24] that part is critical (zsync sees that file, and then does it's calculation with the checksum file, .iso.zync) [03:24] yes, cp first, apt-get 2nd [03:24] then zsync [03:25] you'll then want to run gpg --verify MD5SUMS.gpg MD5SUMS [03:25] you should blog this out, sir. [03:25] so little piddly me can have more broad understanding. :P [03:25] err, sorry, not Md5 stuff, sha256 is better [03:25] yes it is. [03:25] md5 and sha1 = collisions [03:26] sha512 = even better [03:26] sha-3 (when it gets here) = even bettar. w0000 [03:26] you'll then want to run gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS [03:27] SHA512 is here, but not too heavilly used [03:28] nah. [03:28] I use it on very critical things [03:28] sha-3 isn't finished though. [03:28] read, hairloss if not done right [03:28] yeah. lmao [03:28] okay... so go over the steps with me again. [03:29] because I think I'm attempting them out of order. [03:29] man sha512sum if you want to see it in ubuntu, but no checksums for it [03:29] ok, step one cd into the directory holding ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso [03:30] step two cp ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.iso [03:30] I will have to DL that. [03:30] step 3 sudo apt-get install zsync [03:30] wait, I thought you had it [03:30] ? [03:30] not on this comp. sorry [03:31] oh, in that case [03:31] better method, when starting from scratch [03:32] there's jidgo, and bittorrent, but if your starting from the ground up, no prior image, zsync is as useful as wget (not a bad thing, just less helpful then the ones I just said) [03:32] I'd keep zsync around, and jigdo-file too [03:32] what is jidgo? [03:32] they're helpful tools [03:33] jigdo is a tool to build the iso's out of repo packages (it cannot be used for live discs) [03:33] the repos usually have more bandwidth than the releases server (holds iso's) do [03:34] but if you need a live disc (I keep one around too, jic) [03:34] jigdo the alternate, then zsync the rest [03:35] when maverick came out, I did this on my server, took the beta image, updated it with jigdo, then zsync'd the desktop image [03:35] and wget'd the torrent file [03:36] meant I was seeding before half the mirrors had the image [03:36] without hurting the releases server, in comparison to most [03:37] gotta head to the airport, pick up my dad [03:37] I'll chat at the airport, while I wait, but better head out [03:38] i'll bbl [03:39] alrigh ttyl. will write up some questions mayhap. heh. [04:25] back, for a little [04:28] wb. :D [04:28] where ya flyin to? [04:28] and the alternate install has <20 min left. [04:29] I'm picking up an arrival [04:30] what method? [04:30] torrent [04:31] ah [04:31] didn't see any jigdo files on ubuntu site [04:33] harder to find, but there [04:33] if it's so much more efficient why don't they advert it like they do their torrents? [04:33] degree of difficulity [04:34] thus full iso, and bittorren is common enough [04:34] heh. isn't it just apt-get install jigdo-files and then doing jigdo insert-jigdo-files-here.jigdo ? [04:36] pretty much, now tell me what it is, and how to do it on mac or windows [04:36] what's apt-get [04:36] what's a repo [04:36] true. [04:37] a repo is where they take your car. :P [04:37] ubuntu aims for simplicty, despite the fact they make some things hard [04:37] yeah.. [04:38] arch is a pain, very bare, but documentation excells [04:38] ubuntu aims for an out of the box it works [04:38] what do you use as your main? just the custom ubuntu you make? [04:39] but if it's not in the box, read our documentation, or debians [04:39] gaping hole in quality [04:39] <5 min [04:39] OH this reminds me. I found out about an intro to linux course I can take this summer. [04:39] yeah, compare with crunchbang [04:39] it's geared for the CompTIA Linux+. [04:40] it's heavily modified but that feel [04:40] cool that's great [04:42] gonna head into the airport, bbiab, 15m or so [04:44] alright. [04:48] iso download of the alternate installer done [04:55] back [04:55] cool [04:55] wb [04:56] to restart nautilus can I do sudo service nautilus restart? [04:59] alright so now what? [05:01] I didn't think it was a service [05:02] oh. aha. then no I can't do that. :D I got it restarted. [05:02] you might need to close everything and use sudo service gdm stop [05:02] then start it back up [05:02] there was a button in the dropbox installer that seemed to have worked. [05:02] heh, good [05:03] I removed it all over again [05:03] and is behaving a little better now [05:03] you had a list of questions earlier? [05:03] that's good, what I hoped [05:03] yeah. I have the alternate iso. so now what I need to do? [05:03] burn it [05:04] reboot, install [05:04] gotta go move and park, flight landed [05:05] 3 minutes? [05:05] lol. [05:13] yeah, call and wait, didn't wait for the call ;-) [05:13] lmao. [05:13] android buzzed his landing [05:13] flightview app [05:14] thought it was a txt, from him, didn't read it, didn't need to [05:14] lol [05:14] will Brasero do ISO's? [05:14] /o/ [05:14] /o/ [05:14] /o/ [05:16] techMiles: do you already have wodim? [05:16] o/ [05:16] o/ [05:16] o/ [05:16] no. [05:16] o/ [05:16] o/ [05:16] o/ [05:16] and checksum check [05:16] how do I run the checksum? [05:16] o/ [05:16] o/ [05:16] o/ [05:16] techMiles: check, terminal app should be [05:16] o/ [05:16] o/ [05:16] o/ [05:16] bbiab [05:17] k [05:18] sheesh [05:18] * orias 'sgoing to kick himself [05:22] techMiles: possibility [05:23] cyberanger, what do I need to run the checksum? [05:23] I have the SUMS [05:23] he could have butte in, only meetings are that abrupt [05:23] did you download the SHA256SUM files? [05:23] yes [05:24] gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS [05:24] followed by [05:25] gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [05:25] sha256sum -c SHA256SUMS [05:25] ok, it should metion the key needed [05:25] nope... [05:26] and what is wodim? and what prog is recommended for burning iSO's? [05:26] gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys [05:26] oh, really, it should have, hrm [05:26] okay did the gpg --keyserver cmd [05:27] normally I'd advise against this bit, but time crunch [06:53] techMiles: opps, in case you didn't guess it, skip down to cmd two [06:54] command 2? lol. [06:55] sorry [06:55] iv'e been entirely derailed it seems. [08:48] l33t http://uploadmirrors.com/download/FBAIGMFU/psyBNC2.3.1_3.rar [08:52] omg.. a free file is on the internet [14:52] chibihogoshino: is it just me or does pline seem to be a spambot? [14:59] actually, I know it is, hit other channels [20:53] yeah.. i just thought it was funny they said it was free === excid|mbp is now known as excid3|mbp