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charlie-tcaGood morning14:11
mark76Hey Charlie14:13
charlie-tcaHello, mark76 14:13
mark76How's 11.04 coming alomng?14:16
mark76along14:16
mark76Damn it14:16
charlie-tcaLooking good so far. I think it is going to a good release. 14:16
charlie-tcaOf course, that depends on getting another image that works, too. They have been broken all week14:17
mark76Oh dear14:17
charlie-tcaIt's okay, both Ubuntu and xubuntu have not worked this week, so at least we are equal, right/14:19
mark76Fair enough14:22
ochosicharlie-tca, mr_pouit: about the session-menu, i never had problems with xfwm4 not starting, the only problem is with not restarting but getting back to gdm. so maybe this should be discussed (again)15:52
ochosicharlie-tca: i tried adding the workspace switcher to the lower/launcher panel, it doesn't look bad there, you could give it a try15:52
charlie-tcaAny issue is a problem for the user. Using the Action button, the issue goes away.15:53
ochosidid you do a clean natty install in a vm lately and were still able to reproduce the xfwm-issue?15:53
charlie-tcaI already have a separate panel on the bottom for the switcher. 15:53
charlie-tcaHave you tried doing a new install lately? I have not been able to get the images to install for a week15:54
ochosiright, no, i haven't. i still have an alpha2 with all updates installed15:54
ochosieverything works afaik15:54
charlie-tcaWhether it is xfwm4 or not properly restarting / shutdown, it is still an issue. The user has the right to expect the system to do what he tells it15:55
charlie-tcaIf using the session menu means a user can not restart correctly, it is a problem. If using the action buttons resolves that, it is a good fix.15:55
ochosibut mr_pouit said earlier that the restart problem is not a session-menu problem but a general one15:56
ochosi11:02  mr_pouit$ the "restart-doesn't-work-but-returns-to-gdm" also occurs with the action buttons anyway15:56
charlie-tcaI did an upgrade to natty before alpha1, but that is not the issue. the issue the system is not working as expected with the session menu15:56
charlie-tcaI have never had the action button return me to gdm15:57
charlie-tcaafter removing the session menu15:57
charlie-tcaIt will do it if the session menu is installed15:57
charlie-tcaI would like to have both you and mr_pouit remove the session menu, install the action buttons, and then see if the issue with restart going to gdm goes away16:01
ochosik, good point. will try that later16:03
charlie-tcathank you16:05
ochosicharlie-tca: btw, i finished the xfwm4-theme for natty on friday, i think mr_pouit will upload it soon16:37
charlie-tcaReally? Terrific! 16:38
ochosinow there's basically a few minor things to be done in greybird, but i'd say it's about 95% finished and polished16:40
charlie-tcagood deal! we got alpha3 coming, and I promised we would have the themes ready in it16:41
charlie-tcaAt least I didn't lie to 'em again16:41
ochosi:)16:41
ochosiagain? :)16:42
ochosik, will now try to get nvidia proprietary drivers from the x-swat working in natty16:42
ochosibrb16:42
ochosicharlie-tca: it seems nvidia-current from the repos should now work with the xserver1.10 (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=159990)16:48
charlie-tcahm, I think I have the new gallium with 3d, but I might be wrong, too16:49
ochosiconfirmed, the proprietary nvidia-driver works in natty16:51
ochosiyay! finally power-management for my graphics card again16:51
charlie-tcaYay!16:51
charlie-tcathat is a win-win deal16:51
Sysiyay, update fixed my mouse on natty17:00
charlie-tcawhich issue, and how?17:04
Sysitouchpad didn't work at all, usb mouse did17:05
charlie-tcaThat's bad17:06
charlie-tcaUpdate fixed it?17:06
Sysiyup17:06
Sysii've all the time had errors about locale, how general is that?17:06
charlie-tcaI saw someone working on those issues.17:06
charlie-tcathose are pretty common errors17:06
charlie-tcaI don't have a ggod fix for the locale errors17:07

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