[00:02] <Mamarok> why on earth did the bug tracker in launchpad change old stuff from 2009 with an unknown priority to high?
[00:03] <Mamarok> My inbox is flooded with hundreds of bugs
[00:05] <ScottK> Mamarok: Because LP recently gained the ability to import priority from Bugzillas and the LP devs are certain people will want this old information (I did discuss it with them).
[00:08] <Mamarok> still, stuff from 2009 seems total overkill
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> You cannot reason with them, it is no use :(
[00:14] <JontheEchidna> recently they thought themselves clever for allowing you to disable messages about comments you've made
[00:17] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[00:19] <Mamarok> I will close those useless things tomorrow reported for Amarok, they forgot to import the resolution, and setting to high is totally absurd, especially for old versions as pre-2.2.0 which we don't ship anymore since ages
[00:19] <Mamarok> nedtime now
[00:19] <Mamarok> bedtime even :)
[00:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: that sorta stuff is really not their priority
[00:55] <apachelogger> also launchpad has design problems
[00:56] <apachelogger> making things even more difficult
[00:56] <apachelogger> that is what you get for rushing software into a production environment
[05:54] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/573321/ I know how to fix this error, but I dont know where to link the libraries to fix the error.
[09:13] <Riddell> c2tarun: kde 3 apps are probably just best removed if they fail to build
[09:35] <bambee> morning
[09:41] <c2tarun> Riddell: what if I fixed one :(
[09:46] <Riddell> c2tarun: then we can upload it
[09:46] <Riddell> hi bambee 
[09:50] <debfx> good morning
[09:51] <Riddell> 4.6.1 tars seem to be the same as 4.6.0, no splitting, that's good
[09:52] <bambee> :)
[10:13] <debfx> Riddell: could you upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qtwebkit-source_2.1~really2.0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc
[10:13] <Riddell> debfx: yes I'll do that in a few minutes
[10:14] <debfx> thanks
[10:14] <Riddell> debfx: did you discuss with upstream about the best branch to use?
[10:15] <debfx> Riddell: yes, they said we should ship the version that is bundled with qt (i.e. 2.0)
[10:16] <Riddell> ok
[10:33] <bambee> agateau: by the way, a soundmenu for kde could be proposed for the next summer of code (http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Project:_Plasma-based_kmix_Volume_Applet), I discussed with Colin Guthrie and all features required in w.u.c/SoundMenu could be added and he was very interested by these ideas. As a desktop experience team member I thought that you would be interested
[10:33] <bambee> :)
[10:34] <bambee> and it's a good thing for kubuntu users, imho
[10:34] <agateau> bambee: would be nice!
[10:34] <Riddell> do you know if Ubuntu is doing summer of code?
[10:35] <bambee> I've no ideas
[10:41] <Riddell> ARM is looking nice, all KDE packages built
[11:00] <bambee> have a good lunch
[11:59] <alkisg> Hi, we're interested in adding some translated .docbook files to kde-l10n-el, but we're not sure how, as it appears that this package is not the same as the Debian kde-l10n-el package... any ideas on how to proceed?
[12:00] <Riddell> hi alkisg 
[12:00] <alkisg> Hello
[12:00] <Riddell> that package is from upstream, the place to do translations would be the upstream repository
[12:00] <alkisg> And the only ubuntu-specific part is that the .mo files get stripped and put to langpacks?
[12:01] <Riddell> yes
[12:01] <Riddell> debian make a different source package by putting the separate source tars for all the languages into one, and they have an older version, but otherwise it's the same
[12:01] <alkisg> Right that older version got me puzzled
[12:02] <alkisg> I think that the teacher that did the translations did send them upstream
[12:02] <alkisg> I'll try to contact some people there. Thank you Riddell :)
[12:03] <Riddell> http://l10n.kde.org/team-infos.php?teamcode=el  shows the upstream details
[12:03] <alkisg> Much appreciated :)
[12:04] <Riddell> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/el/docmessages/ is the files for the documentation translations
[12:04] <Riddell> which looks fairly empty compared to the templates http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/templates/docmessages/
[12:05] <alkisg> Ouch. We're mainly interested in kturtle as it's used in secondary schools here
[12:06] <alkisg> A teacher translated it last year and I'm trying to see why it didn't yet go upstream
[12:06] <Riddell> check the mailing list to see what happened to it I guess
[12:06] <alkisg> OK, ty
[12:16] <alkisg> I'd like to upload a version of kde-l10n-el in the PPA for Greek schools with those translations included. Will the .mo files be automatically removed, i.e. does the langpack stripping also happen for PPAs?
[12:16] <bambee> Riddell: apparently, Jono said that Ubuntu will apply for the next summer of code
[12:17] <bambee> thanks shadeslayer :)
[12:17] <shadeslayer> bambee: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdegraphics/cmake/modules/ <<
[12:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ if you're around need a hand with that :D
[12:18] <shadeslayer> bambee: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-soc/2011-February/000280.html
[12:18] <bambee> thanks
[12:19]  * shadeslayer tries something
[12:20] <Riddell> alkisg: .mo stripping doesn't happen in PPAs
[12:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: with what?
[12:20] <alkisg> Thank you Riddell, I'll strip them manually
[12:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: so the findksane.cmake file needs to be moved to ksane in git 
[12:21] <shadeslayer> can i just make a modules dir in the git repo and add the stuff there?
[12:21] <bambee> shadeslayer: what is the problem with these modules ?
[12:22] <shadeslayer> bambee: the findksane.cmake module is in SVN while the rest of ksane is in git
[12:22] <bambee> ohhh you answered earlier
[12:22] <bambee> sorry
[12:22] <shadeslayer> no problem :)
[12:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well yes, you'd just commit it to git
[12:23] <shadeslayer> hmm... ok ... 
[12:23] <shadeslayer> same dir structure and everything right
[12:23] <Riddell> but does ksane still exist?
[12:24] <shadeslayer> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/ksaneplugin
[12:25] <Riddell> well yes, add it in cmake/modules
[12:25] <Riddell> then add to CMakeLists.txt set(CMAKE_MODULE_PATH ${CMAKE_MODULE_PATH} ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/cmake/modules )
[12:27] <shadeslayer> righto 
[12:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/6059
[12:54] <shadeslayer> i should like sync all my mails to my HD after this http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/27/gmail-accidentally-resetting-accounts-years-of-correspondence-v/
[12:59] <al> no, you should do it regardless of that ;)
[13:12] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: remember to include the COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS file
[13:12] <kshadeslayer> oh yes
[13:18] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: like you have important emails...
[13:18] <kshadeslayer> oh yes i do have important emails!
[13:18]  * kshadeslayer pushes
[13:18] <apachelogger> applegadget news reminders?
[13:18] <kshadeslayer> no ... facebook birthday reminders
[13:23] <kshadeslayer> whee .... ksane fixed
[13:30] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: you get birthday reminders? :O
[13:30] <apachelogger> oh, right, I do not even have a valid email address set up ^^
[13:30] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: yes ... i have this app thingy ...
[13:30] <kshadeslayer> hah
[13:33] <kshadeslayer> another quick review please http://paste.kde.org/6063
[13:34] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: why does it need a CMakeLists.txt at all?
[13:35] <apachelogger> eh, yeah
[13:35] <kshadeslayer> idk ... it has some other cmake modules, but i don't see them being installed or used
[13:35] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: you are now installing no files
[13:35] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: so just remove it
[13:36] <apachelogger> whatever happened to findksane though?
[13:36] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: i moved it to git
[13:37] <apachelogger> ah, well, throw the cmakelists away then
[13:37] <apachelogger> and don't forget to also remove the add_subdirector(cmake) in ../
[13:37] <kshadeslayer> ok
[13:40] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: the CMakeLists.txt in ../ only has add_subdirectory(cmake)
[13:40] <kshadeslayer> want me to throw that away too?
[13:41] <Riddell> kshadeslayer: yes
[13:45] <kshadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/6064
[13:45] <kshadeslayer> compiles fine as well
[13:46] <kshadeslayer> oh didn't delete the FindKSane.cmake file
[13:48] <Riddell> why are you deleting FindKSane.cmake?  i thought you were adding it?
[13:49] <kshadeslayer> Riddell: this is in SVN
[13:49] <kshadeslayer> the SVN files must go
[13:50] <Riddell> that file is in libksane-dev by the way
[13:51] <Riddell> so it shouldn't be needed elsewhere
[13:52] <kshadeslayer> so https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/ksaneplugin/repository/revisions/96df16efbfd91ebbdebf735035b72cf38137d171 and https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/ksaneplugin/repository/revisions/af4383454c57a468d4f9725058518e1272e76018 are not required?
[13:54] <Riddell> better to add it in here I'd say https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/libs/libksane/repository
[13:54] <Riddell> and install it
[13:56] <kshadeslayer> hmm okay ... 
[14:16] <markey_nokia> hi all
[14:16] <GreyGeek> hi
[14:16] <markey_nokia> apachelogger: happen to know how to start "IBus daemon"?
[14:16] <markey_nokia> Qt Creator refuses to start a certain QML app, due to this missing
[14:17] <markey_nokia> Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. 
[14:17] <markey_nokia> IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon 
[14:17] <apachelogger> markey_nokia: that is not what makes it not start
[14:17] <apachelogger> that is just Qt being verbose
[14:17] <markey_nokia> hm
[14:17] <apachelogger> ibus is just an input system daemon thing
[14:17] <markey_nokia> well I googled that, had no idea what the error means
[14:18] <apachelogger> for asian characters and whatnot
[14:18] <markey_nokia> hm
[14:18] <markey_nokia> not sure why it would need that for this QML app, others work fine
[14:18] <apachelogger> that is Qt
[14:18] <apachelogger> it just tries to connect to ibus and is too verbose about it
[14:18] <markey_nokia> the app is using some JSon
[14:18] <apachelogger> that is not why it is not starting though
[14:18] <markey_nokia> ah
[14:19] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: ping
[14:19] <kshadeslayer> pong
[14:19] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: any chance of you making a qzeitgeist package for the zeitgeist ppa?
[14:20] <markey_nokia> apachelogger: QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory
[14:20] <markey_nokia> what could that mean?
[14:20] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: gimme 20 mins to fix some of this mess :P
[14:20] <apachelogger> markey_nokia: also related to ibus I believe
[14:20] <Riddell> remove ibus-qt4 to get rid of the message (or install natty where it's off by default)
[14:21] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: sure, I know how to build software myself meanwhile ^^
[14:21] <kshadeslayer> :P
[14:21] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: whatever happend to my other indian minions btw?
[14:21] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: iDunno(tm)
[14:22] <apachelogger> oh
[14:22] <apachelogger> you will be pleased, it already has a debian dir ^^
[14:22] <apachelogger> libqzeitgeist = it
[14:22] <kshadeslayer> quite possibly they're not here because of placements
[14:22] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: placements?
[14:22] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: companies come and recruit people here
[14:22] <kshadeslayer> from our campus itself
[14:23] <apachelogger> ah
[14:23] <kshadeslayer> so ... the whole procedure is called placement's
[14:23] <apachelogger> and that is an excuse? :O
[14:23] <kshadeslayer> aakshay mentioned something about a email he sent to Riddell
[14:23] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: there's tazz
[14:24] <kshadeslayer> he's usually around 
[14:25] <apachelogger> not now he isnt :P
[14:26] <kshadeslayer> left 2 hours ago
[14:38] <markey_nokia> Riddell: thanks, trying that now
[14:45] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: do they not have tarball's?
[14:46] <apachelogger> seiflotfy: do you have tarballs for libqzeitgeist?
[14:46] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: probably only git snapshot for now
[14:46] <apachelogger> or you could setup a recipe ;)
[14:46] <kshadeslayer> ;)
[14:46] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: ok i'd say a project-neon package for now :P
[14:47] <apachelogger> oh gawd no
[14:47] <apachelogger> uhhh
[14:47] <apachelogger> we are in for a treat
[14:47] <apachelogger> phonon zeitgeist integration is very awesome
[14:48] <yofel> o/
[14:54] <markey_nokia> Riddell: thanks, that did the trick :)
[14:54] <markey_nokia> (removing IBus)
[14:55] <markey_nokia> very obscure error, I would never have guessed the right solution
[14:59] <apachelogger> stupid qt
[15:20] <debfx> Riddell: can you sponsor another upload: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/synaptiks_0.5.2-0ubuntu2.debdiff
[15:22] <Riddell> sure
[15:23] <Riddell> uploaded, thanks debfx 
[15:24]  * debfx is still waiting for the package set update
[15:24]  * apachelogger is not sure he can make UDS
[15:24] <Riddell> aww
[15:25] <apachelogger> however I just ordered an archos 101, so kubuntu tablet will be a topic of natty+1
[15:25] <Riddell> what's one of those?
[15:26] <apachelogger> tablet
[15:26] <apachelogger> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/index.html
[15:26] <kshadeslayer> wha
[15:26] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: you should have ordered a Adam
[15:27] <kshadeslayer> Notion Ink Adam
[15:27] <apachelogger> kshadeslayer: is that even out yet? :P
[15:27] <kshadeslayer> yes
[15:27] <apachelogger> that thing was announced like a year ago ^^
[15:27] <kshadeslayer> it is out!
[15:27] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: http://www.notionink.com/
[15:28] <kshadeslayer> like ... send a email to them and cancel your order nao!
[15:28] <apachelogger> ^^
[15:28] <kshadeslayer> should i just dump FindKSane.cmake into libksane/
[15:29] <kshadeslayer> or put it in libksane/cmake/modules
[15:29] <kshadeslayer> because i see libksane.pc.cmake and libksane.lsm.cmake in libksane/
[15:31] <apachelogger> at least cmake/
[15:31] <apachelogger> the .cmake things in the root are different things
[15:31] <kshadeslayer> ohk
[15:33] <afiestas> I just got an exopc from the intel "appUp" thing (Mobile World Congress) 
[15:33] <afiestas> so +1 for tablet :p
[15:39] <Riddell> having a kubuntu tablet depends on upstream doing a plasma tablet I'd think
[15:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: already there
[15:41] <apachelogger> based on plasma mobile for the better part
[15:49] <Quintasan> one question, if you have more than one user on you PC, shouldn't KAuth dialog select the current user when asking for password?
[15:51] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: Riddell fixes branch from http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=clones%2Flibksane%2Fgarg%2Flibksane.git&a=summary
[15:52] <kshadeslayer> libsane-dev refuses to install here :,
[15:52] <kshadeslayer> :<
[15:54] <yofel> installs fine in natty
[15:54] <apachelogger> as long as phonon installs
[15:55]  * kshadeslayer thinks of watching the oscars
[15:55] <yofel> go watch UDW :P
[16:09] <kshadeslayer> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:09] <kshadeslayer>  libsane-dev : Depends: libjpeg-dev
[16:09] <kshadeslayer>                Depends: libtiff4-dev but it is not going to be installed
[16:09] <kshadeslayer> yofel: ^
[16:09] <kshadeslayer> :(
[16:10] <yofel> libtiff4-dev should be fine, and libjpeg-dev translates to libjpeg62-dev here
[16:11] <apparle> hey guys, I'm unable to use any KWin effects in natty alpha2. Any pointers on how to find whether it is kde or some setting fault or a driver fault in itself
[16:11] <Quintasan> How do I turn joins/leaves off in quassel?
[16:12] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan: right click on the chat area
[16:12] <yofel> Quintasan: right click on channel -> hide events
[16:12] <Quintasan> apparle: do you have mesa-utlis installed?
[16:12] <kshadeslayer> aha
[16:12] <apparle> installing it
[16:12] <kshadeslayer> yofel: i had libjpeg8-dev installed
[16:12] <kshadeslayer> i should probably report a bug
[16:13] <yofel> ack
[16:13] <Quintasan> apparle: please then do glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[16:14] <apparle> Quintasan: actually the effects start. but the screen goes black and I see only the mouse pointer and white boxes when I right click etc
[16:15] <apparle> Quintasan: and glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled
[16:15] <apparle> the alpha2 comes with gallium 3d drivers for radeon or the old opensource radeon drivers?
[16:22] <Quintasan> apparle: you are using open-source driver?
[16:22] <apparle> Quintasan: yes
[16:22] <Quintasan> I am not sure if it will work that way
[16:22] <apparle> Quintasan: and it seems I'm using the r300 version
[16:23] <apparle> Quintasan: it used to work in 
[16:23] <apparle> 10.10
[16:24] <Quintasan> I can't help you with that, each time I wanted effects on my old radeon I had to use closed-source drivers
[16:25] <apparle> Quintasan: with ati dumping me... I don't have that option. BTW I am also getting a lot of screen corruption, particularly rekonq even when effects are disabled
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[16:25] <yofel> I would blame the driver for screen corruption in almost all cases
[16:26] <yofel> at least file a bug
[16:26] <Quintasan> yeah, if you get screen corruption even without effects then blame driver or card
[16:37] <kshadeslayer> tada : bug 726641
[16:46] <kshadeslayer> huh
[16:46] <kshadeslayer> Riddell looks ~like Hugh Jackman ( see the oscars )
[16:47] <Riddell> I do?
[16:47]  * Riddell checks hands for signs of metal blades
[16:47] <kshadeslayer> yeah sort of
[16:48] <kshadeslayer> he now has a short haircut ... so you sort of resemble him
[16:51] <kshadeslayer> oh man this is *hard*
[16:53] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan: when is your talk?
[16:53] <Quintasan> Friday
[16:53] <kshadeslayer> okay
[16:54]  * kshadeslayer is all mired in CMakeLists.txt
[17:44] <kshadeslayer> apachelogger: around?
[18:08] <Riddell> ScottK: http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Minor_Point_Release_Policy finally got approved by upstream
[18:09] <ScottK> Riddell: I saw that.  It's great news that seemed to just come out of nowhere to me.
[19:17] <Quintasan> ScottK: ping
[19:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: hai
[19:24] <ScottK> Quintasan: Pong.
[19:25] <Quintasan> ScottK: oh, there you are. I see you are endorsing kklimonda's MOTU application, would you have some time to show up at the meeting?
[19:25] <ScottK> Sure.
[19:26] <Quintasan> ScottK: Thanks :)
[19:32] <Quintasan> Riddell: We're going to push Project Neon tonight
[19:47] <Riddell> Quintasan: ooh!
[19:47] <Quintasan> What can be done is done
[19:47] <Quintasan> What can't be done will be done later
[19:48] <Quintasan> We need valorie to publish the dot article
[19:49] <Quintasan> Riddell: I will publish an entry on my blog tomorrow as time allows and we should be ready for tons of bugreports
[20:18] <bambee> apachelogger: by the way did you develop your movie player with qml ? :P
[20:19] <bambee> (few days ago you told about that... nop ?)
[20:21] <bambee> I'm just curious ;)
[20:24] <apachelogger> haven't built the foundations yet
[20:30] <afiestas> is anyone using kde trunk/master with Natty ?
[20:31] <yofel> afiestas: not self built  - but our neon packages, what's the question?
[20:34] <afiestas> I'm having some weird problem when using KDE compiled by myself
[20:35] <afiestas> I install it in ~/kdeinstall, and don't know why the system is mixing libraries from /usr and from ~/kdeinstall
[20:35] <afiestas> all env vars are set correctly, and well I have been using this config since I'm a kde developer
[20:36] <afiestas> I'm setting the env in startkde (well a wrapper that execute's it) and in .bashrc (just in case) :/
[20:37] <afiestas> and the exact problem I'm having, is that Qt is loading oxygen.so from /usr while using liboxygen from ~/kdeinstall
[20:38] <afiestas> QT_PLUGIN_PATH <-- is set too
[20:40] <yofel> hm, I'm not too good with libraries, so the only reason I could think of is that whatever uses oxygen.so is linked against the one in /usr. Shouldn't happen though as long as QT_PLUGIN_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are set at build time...
[20:42] <afiestas> oxygen.so is loaded at runtime, the problem is that Qt is using the /usr .so instead of ~/kdeinstall
[20:43] <afiestas> I can see that in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf too
[21:04] <yofel> ok, I think I can confirm that... and it seems to be the cause of one of our neon issues...
[21:28] <valorie> the dot article has been submitted
[21:29] <Quintasan> valorie: okay awesome
[21:30] <valorie> y'all have done great work
[23:04] <DarkwingDuck> That was a success
[23:05] <DarkwingDuck> I handed out over 250 Kubuntu CDs at the conference.
[23:15] <Riddell> DarkwingDuck: what conference was that?
[23:15] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/EkPYj.png equalizer with phonon gstreamer
[23:15]  * apachelogger needs some praise
[23:16] <Riddell> apachelogger: you rock more than Ossy Osborne
[23:16] <DarkwingDuck> Riddell: SCALE (Southern California Linux Expo)
[23:16] <apachelogger> yay
[23:16] <DarkwingDuck> About 2000 people were there.
[23:16] <DarkwingDuck> I did a tal and presentation on Kubuntu and KDE there.
[23:17] <DarkwingDuck> s/tal/talk
[23:17] <Riddell> lovely
[23:18] <DarkwingDuck> It went really well. Talked to loads of people who left Kubuntu during the KDE3 to KDE4 switch and they love it once again.
[23:22] <DarkwingDuck> bbiab... having a quick meeting with Jono Bacon about Kubuntu Community ideas.
[23:24] <apachelogger> meetings++
[23:24] <apachelogger> community++
[23:24] <DarkwingDuck> Aye
[23:25] <DarkwingDuck> Plus, at the next California Loco elections I wont be running for re-election but spending more time in Kubuntu community stuff in the US.
[23:25] <apachelogger> porting kdelibs to android :O
[23:25] <apachelogger> omg
[23:25] <apachelogger> they are all going crazy
[23:26] <DarkwingDuck> How about Qt dev for Android.
[23:26] <DarkwingDuck> I've already been playing around with Python for android.
[23:26] <apachelogger> you are not up-to-date my friend
[23:26] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[23:26] <apachelogger> http://dot.kde.org/2011/02/24/qt-everywhere-community-android-port-announces-alpha-release
[23:27] <DarkwingDuck> Hey, I was busy all weekend.
[23:27] <apachelogger> well
[23:27] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[23:27] <apachelogger> you are not on the kde-promo list ;)
[23:27] <DarkwingDuck> Oh I am.
[23:27] <apachelogger> that is the real problem
[23:27]  * apachelogger actually only read that by accident
[23:27] <DarkwingDuck> I just have not reviewed those emails yet.
[23:27] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: the mail was sent last week or something
[23:28] <apachelogger> anyhow
[23:28] <DarkwingDuck> Like I said....
[23:28] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[23:28] <DarkwingDuck> Sweet.
[23:28] <apachelogger> we are killing android dead anyway
[23:28] <apachelogger> kubuntu is supreme!!!
[23:28] <apachelogger> EXTERMINATE!!!!
[23:28] <DarkwingDuck> Then tell me how I can get it on my Moto Droid. :P
[23:28] <apachelogger> easy, get a sensible phone :P
[23:28] <apachelogger> actually
[23:29] <apachelogger> if someone sends me one I could probably get it to run
[23:29]  * apachelogger slowly gets the hang of this mobile stuff
[23:29] <DarkwingDuck> the OMAP board on the Moto Droid is the same one on the n900
[23:29] <DarkwingDuck> so... it *should* work.
[23:29] <apachelogger> actually I am sure it will
[23:29] <DarkwingDuck> if I can just get the bootloader to load the image.
[23:29] <apachelogger> the tricky part is getting the drivers necessary and actually get the image on the device
[23:30] <DarkwingDuck> The only issue I'm going to run into...
[23:30] <DarkwingDuck> Is the Verizon using CDMA instead of GSM
[23:30] <DarkwingDuck> So, I have to pull apart a verizon kernal and gleem the CDMA information out.
[23:30] <apachelogger> hmmm
[23:31] <DarkwingDuck> and see if I can't get it to work with kubuntu-mobile
[23:31] <apachelogger> finding a lib/app that does CDMA will be more tricky I suppose
[23:31] <DarkwingDuck> So i can actually use it to make phone calls.
[23:31] <DarkwingDuck> I'll have to figure out how to port one from the android side o.O
[23:31] <apachelogger> actually I have yet to make a phone call with the n900 :D
[23:31] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: they probably only have closed source stuffz
[23:32] <DarkwingDuck> That's fixable.
[23:32] <DarkwingDuck> It's who you know.
[23:32] <apachelogger> hehe
[23:33] <apachelogger> reach out and touch faith I say :D
[23:33] <DarkwingDuck> But... I just need to find a way to run it first and make sure it work.s
[23:34] <apachelogger> depechemode++
[23:34] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: well, natty is currently broken on arm
[23:34] <apachelogger> KDE that is
[23:34] <apachelogger> thanks to shitty gcc
[23:34] <DarkwingDuck> i would use the Maverick one.
[23:34] <apachelogger> and even more shitty workaround in Qt
[23:34] <apachelogger> you'll need to build your own kernel then
[23:34] <apachelogger> maverick omap3 kernel will not boot on your board
[23:36] <DarkwingDuck> It boots on teh n900?
[23:36] <apachelogger> no
[23:36] <DarkwingDuck> Only Natty does?
[23:36] <apachelogger> we used the n900 kernel on maverick
[23:36] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: neither
[23:36] <DarkwingDuck> ahhhhhhhhh
[23:36] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: the n900 kernel on natty FTBFS right now
[23:36] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, weeeeeeee
[23:36] <apachelogger> but we have a package, so technically ....
[23:36] <DarkwingDuck> buildig a kernal.
[23:36] <Riddell> apachelogger: how is KDE broken on ARM?
[23:37] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/mobile/kernel/
[23:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: segfaults
[23:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: gcc 4.5 has problems with precompiled headers in Qt, which made unity segfault
[23:37] <apachelogger> so they forced gcc 4.4 for Qt
[23:37] <apachelogger> BUT
[23:37] <apachelogger> the function in question is inline, so that does not fix KDE
[23:37] <apachelogger> there is a patch for gcc though
[23:38] <Riddell> hmm, that's not so good
[23:38] <apachelogger> yeah
[23:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: do you have a bug number or other reference?
[23:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 705689
[23:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: ScottK poke doko already
[23:51] <DarkwingDuck> Well... hmmz.
[23:52] <DarkwingDuck> That could have gone better.
[23:56] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger, Riddell We need to sit down and talk about ideas/plans for what we want to accomplish in Kubuntu Community or, intergrating the Kubuntu Community with Ubuntu Community.
[23:56] <DarkwingDuck> However we want to do it.
[23:58] <apachelogger> as long as there is free booze involved I am in
[23:58] <DarkwingDuck> Well, seeing that I'm in the US it'll have to be via IRC.
[23:58] <DarkwingDuck> Unless I make it out to UDS in May
[23:59] <DarkwingDuck> Even if I'm not there is persone I'll either skype in or participate