[00:02] why on earth did the bug tracker in launchpad change old stuff from 2009 with an unknown priority to high? [00:03] My inbox is flooded with hundreds of bugs [00:05] Mamarok: Because LP recently gained the ability to import priority from Bugzillas and the LP devs are certain people will want this old information (I did discuss it with them). [00:08] still, stuff from 2009 seems total overkill [00:14] You cannot reason with them, it is no use :( [00:14] recently they thought themselves clever for allowing you to disable messages about comments you've made [00:17] *sigh* [00:19] I will close those useless things tomorrow reported for Amarok, they forgot to import the resolution, and setting to high is totally absurd, especially for old versions as pre-2.2.0 which we don't ship anymore since ages [00:19] nedtime now [00:19] bedtime even :) [00:55] JontheEchidna: that sorta stuff is really not their priority [00:55] also launchpad has design problems [00:56] making things even more difficult [00:56] that is what you get for rushing software into a production environment [05:54] can anyone please help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/573321/ I know how to fix this error, but I dont know where to link the libraries to fix the error. === GrueMaster_ is now known as GrueMaster [09:13] c2tarun: kde 3 apps are probably just best removed if they fail to build [09:35] morning [09:41] Riddell: what if I fixed one :( [09:46] c2tarun: then we can upload it [09:46] hi bambee [09:50] good morning [09:51] 4.6.1 tars seem to be the same as 4.6.0, no splitting, that's good [09:52] :) [10:13] Riddell: could you upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qtwebkit-source_2.1~really2.0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc [10:13] debfx: yes I'll do that in a few minutes [10:14] thanks [10:14] debfx: did you discuss with upstream about the best branch to use? [10:15] Riddell: yes, they said we should ship the version that is bundled with qt (i.e. 2.0) [10:16] ok [10:33] agateau: by the way, a soundmenu for kde could be proposed for the next summer of code (http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2011/Ideas#Project:_Plasma-based_kmix_Volume_Applet), I discussed with Colin Guthrie and all features required in w.u.c/SoundMenu could be added and he was very interested by these ideas. As a desktop experience team member I thought that you would be interested [10:33] :) [10:34] and it's a good thing for kubuntu users, imho [10:34] bambee: would be nice! [10:34] do you know if Ubuntu is doing summer of code? [10:35] I've no ideas [10:41] ARM is looking nice, all KDE packages built [11:00] have a good lunch [11:59] Hi, we're interested in adding some translated .docbook files to kde-l10n-el, but we're not sure how, as it appears that this package is not the same as the Debian kde-l10n-el package... any ideas on how to proceed? [12:00] hi alkisg [12:00] Hello [12:00] that package is from upstream, the place to do translations would be the upstream repository [12:00] And the only ubuntu-specific part is that the .mo files get stripped and put to langpacks? [12:01] yes [12:01] debian make a different source package by putting the separate source tars for all the languages into one, and they have an older version, but otherwise it's the same [12:01] Right that older version got me puzzled [12:02] I think that the teacher that did the translations did send them upstream [12:02] I'll try to contact some people there. Thank you Riddell :) [12:03] http://l10n.kde.org/team-infos.php?teamcode=el shows the upstream details [12:03] Much appreciated :) [12:04] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/el/docmessages/ is the files for the documentation translations [12:04] which looks fairly empty compared to the templates http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/templates/docmessages/ [12:05] Ouch. We're mainly interested in kturtle as it's used in secondary schools here [12:06] A teacher translated it last year and I'm trying to see why it didn't yet go upstream [12:06] check the mailing list to see what happened to it I guess [12:06] OK, ty [12:16] I'd like to upload a version of kde-l10n-el in the PPA for Greek schools with those translations included. Will the .mo files be automatically removed, i.e. does the langpack stripping also happen for PPAs? [12:16] Riddell: apparently, Jono said that Ubuntu will apply for the next summer of code [12:17] thanks shadeslayer :) [12:17] bambee: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdegraphics/cmake/modules/ << [12:17] Riddell: ^^ if you're around need a hand with that :D [12:18] bambee: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-soc/2011-February/000280.html [12:18] thanks [12:19] * shadeslayer tries something [12:20] alkisg: .mo stripping doesn't happen in PPAs [12:20] shadeslayer: with what? [12:20] Thank you Riddell, I'll strip them manually [12:21] Riddell: so the findksane.cmake file needs to be moved to ksane in git [12:21] can i just make a modules dir in the git repo and add the stuff there? [12:21] shadeslayer: what is the problem with these modules ? [12:22] bambee: the findksane.cmake module is in SVN while the rest of ksane is in git [12:22] ohhh you answered earlier [12:22] sorry [12:22] no problem :) [12:23] shadeslayer: well yes, you'd just commit it to git [12:23] hmm... ok ... [12:23] same dir structure and everything right [12:23] but does ksane still exist? [12:24] https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/ksaneplugin [12:25] well yes, add it in cmake/modules [12:25] then add to CMakeLists.txt set(CMAKE_MODULE_PATH ${CMAKE_MODULE_PATH} ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/cmake/modules ) [12:27] righto [12:46] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/6059 [12:54] i should like sync all my mails to my HD after this http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/27/gmail-accidentally-resetting-accounts-years-of-correspondence-v/ [12:59] no, you should do it regardless of that ;) === shadeslayer is now known as kshadeslayer [13:12] kshadeslayer: remember to include the COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS file [13:12] oh yes [13:18] kshadeslayer: like you have important emails... [13:18] oh yes i do have important emails! [13:18] * kshadeslayer pushes [13:18] applegadget news reminders? [13:18] no ... facebook birthday reminders [13:23] whee .... ksane fixed [13:30] kshadeslayer: you get birthday reminders? :O [13:30] oh, right, I do not even have a valid email address set up ^^ [13:30] apachelogger: yes ... i have this app thingy ... [13:30] hah [13:33] another quick review please http://paste.kde.org/6063 [13:34] kshadeslayer: why does it need a CMakeLists.txt at all? [13:35] eh, yeah [13:35] idk ... it has some other cmake modules, but i don't see them being installed or used [13:35] kshadeslayer: you are now installing no files [13:35] kshadeslayer: so just remove it [13:36] whatever happened to findksane though? [13:36] apachelogger: i moved it to git [13:37] ah, well, throw the cmakelists away then [13:37] and don't forget to also remove the add_subdirector(cmake) in ../ [13:37] ok [13:40] apachelogger: the CMakeLists.txt in ../ only has add_subdirectory(cmake) [13:40] want me to throw that away too? [13:41] kshadeslayer: yes [13:45] http://paste.kde.org/6064 [13:45] compiles fine as well [13:46] oh didn't delete the FindKSane.cmake file [13:48] why are you deleting FindKSane.cmake? i thought you were adding it? [13:49] Riddell: this is in SVN [13:49] the SVN files must go [13:50] that file is in libksane-dev by the way [13:51] so it shouldn't be needed elsewhere [13:52] so https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/ksaneplugin/repository/revisions/96df16efbfd91ebbdebf735035b72cf38137d171 and https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/ksaneplugin/repository/revisions/af4383454c57a468d4f9725058518e1272e76018 are not required? [13:54] better to add it in here I'd say https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/libs/libksane/repository [13:54] and install it [13:56] hmm okay ... [14:16] hi all [14:16] hi [14:16] apachelogger: happen to know how to start "IBus daemon"? [14:16] Qt Creator refuses to start a certain QML app, due to this missing [14:17] Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. [14:17] IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon [14:17] markey_nokia: that is not what makes it not start [14:17] that is just Qt being verbose [14:17] hm [14:17] ibus is just an input system daemon thing [14:17] well I googled that, had no idea what the error means [14:18] for asian characters and whatnot [14:18] hm [14:18] not sure why it would need that for this QML app, others work fine [14:18] that is Qt === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:18] it just tries to connect to ibus and is too verbose about it [14:18] the app is using some JSon [14:18] that is not why it is not starting though [14:18] ah [14:19] kshadeslayer: ping [14:19] pong [14:19] kshadeslayer: any chance of you making a qzeitgeist package for the zeitgeist ppa? [14:20] apachelogger: QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory [14:20] what could that mean? [14:20] apachelogger: gimme 20 mins to fix some of this mess :P [14:20] markey_nokia: also related to ibus I believe [14:20] remove ibus-qt4 to get rid of the message (or install natty where it's off by default) [14:21] kshadeslayer: sure, I know how to build software myself meanwhile ^^ [14:21] :P [14:21] kshadeslayer: whatever happend to my other indian minions btw? [14:21] apachelogger: iDunno(tm) [14:22] oh [14:22] you will be pleased, it already has a debian dir ^^ [14:22] libqzeitgeist = it [14:22] quite possibly they're not here because of placements [14:22] kshadeslayer: placements? [14:22] apachelogger: companies come and recruit people here [14:22] from our campus itself [14:23] ah [14:23] so ... the whole procedure is called placement's [14:23] and that is an excuse? :O [14:23] aakshay mentioned something about a email he sent to Riddell [14:23] apachelogger: there's tazz [14:24] he's usually around [14:25] not now he isnt :P [14:26] left 2 hours ago [14:38] Riddell: thanks, trying that now === dbarth is now known as dbarth-otp [14:45] apachelogger: do they not have tarball's? [14:46] seiflotfy: do you have tarballs for libqzeitgeist? [14:46] kshadeslayer: probably only git snapshot for now [14:46] or you could setup a recipe ;) [14:46] ;) [14:46] apachelogger: ok i'd say a project-neon package for now :P [14:47] oh gawd no [14:47] uhhh [14:47] we are in for a treat [14:47] phonon zeitgeist integration is very awesome === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:48] o/ [14:54] Riddell: thanks, that did the trick :) [14:54] (removing IBus) [14:55] very obscure error, I would never have guessed the right solution [14:59] stupid qt [15:20] Riddell: can you sponsor another upload: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/synaptiks_0.5.2-0ubuntu2.debdiff [15:22] sure === dbarth-otp is now known as dbarth [15:23] uploaded, thanks debfx [15:24] * debfx is still waiting for the package set update [15:24] * apachelogger is not sure he can make UDS [15:24] aww [15:25] however I just ordered an archos 101, so kubuntu tablet will be a topic of natty+1 [15:25] what's one of those? [15:26] tablet [15:26] http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/index.html [15:26] wha [15:26] apachelogger: you should have ordered a Adam [15:27] Notion Ink Adam [15:27] kshadeslayer: is that even out yet? :P [15:27] yes [15:27] that thing was announced like a year ago ^^ [15:27] it is out! [15:27] apachelogger: http://www.notionink.com/ [15:28] like ... send a email to them and cancel your order nao! [15:28] ^^ [15:28] should i just dump FindKSane.cmake into libksane/ [15:29] or put it in libksane/cmake/modules [15:29] because i see libksane.pc.cmake and libksane.lsm.cmake in libksane/ [15:31] at least cmake/ [15:31] the .cmake things in the root are different things [15:31] ohk [15:33] I just got an exopc from the intel "appUp" thing (Mobile World Congress) [15:33] so +1 for tablet :p [15:39] having a kubuntu tablet depends on upstream doing a plasma tablet I'd think [15:41] Riddell: already there [15:41] based on plasma mobile for the better part [15:49] one question, if you have more than one user on you PC, shouldn't KAuth dialog select the current user when asking for password? [15:51] apachelogger: Riddell fixes branch from http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=clones%2Flibksane%2Fgarg%2Flibksane.git&a=summary [15:52] libsane-dev refuses to install here :, [15:52] :< [15:54] installs fine in natty [15:54] as long as phonon installs [15:55] * kshadeslayer thinks of watching the oscars [15:55] go watch UDW :P [16:09] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [16:09] libsane-dev : Depends: libjpeg-dev [16:09] Depends: libtiff4-dev but it is not going to be installed [16:09] yofel: ^ [16:09] :( [16:10] libtiff4-dev should be fine, and libjpeg-dev translates to libjpeg62-dev here [16:11] hey guys, I'm unable to use any KWin effects in natty alpha2. Any pointers on how to find whether it is kde or some setting fault or a driver fault in itself [16:11] How do I turn joins/leaves off in quassel? [16:12] Quintasan: right click on the chat area [16:12] Quintasan: right click on channel -> hide events [16:12] apparle: do you have mesa-utlis installed? [16:12] aha [16:12] installing it [16:12] yofel: i had libjpeg8-dev installed [16:12] i should probably report a bug [16:13] ack [16:13] apparle: please then do glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" [16:14] Quintasan: actually the effects start. but the screen goes black and I see only the mouse pointer and white boxes when I right click etc [16:15] Quintasan: and glxinfo says direct rendering is enabled [16:15] the alpha2 comes with gallium 3d drivers for radeon or the old opensource radeon drivers? === tarun is now known as Guest97414 === Guest97414 is now known as c2tarun [16:22] apparle: you are using open-source driver? [16:22] Quintasan: yes [16:22] I am not sure if it will work that way [16:22] Quintasan: and it seems I'm using the r300 version [16:23] Quintasan: it used to work in [16:23] 10.10 [16:24] I can't help you with that, each time I wanted effects on my old radeon I had to use closed-source drivers [16:25] Quintasan: with ati dumping me... I don't have that option. BTW I am also getting a lot of screen corruption, particularly rekonq even when effects are disabled [16:25] buy nvidia [16:25] I would blame the driver for screen corruption in almost all cases [16:26] at least file a bug [16:26] yeah, if you get screen corruption even without effects then blame driver or card [16:37] tada : bug 726641 [16:37] Launchpad bug 726641 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "Cannot install libsane-dev if libjpeg8-dev is installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726641 [16:46] huh [16:46] Riddell looks ~like Hugh Jackman ( see the oscars ) [16:47] I do? [16:47] * Riddell checks hands for signs of metal blades [16:47] yeah sort of [16:48] he now has a short haircut ... so you sort of resemble him [16:51] oh man this is *hard* [16:53] Quintasan: when is your talk? [16:53] Friday [16:53] okay [16:54] * kshadeslayer is all mired in CMakeLists.txt [17:44] apachelogger: around? === shadeslayer is now known as Guest62064 === Guest62064 is now known as shadeslayer_ [18:08] ScottK: http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Minor_Point_Release_Policy finally got approved by upstream [18:09] Riddell: I saw that. It's great news that seemed to just come out of nowhere to me. === evilshadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer [19:17] ScottK: ping [19:22] shadeslayer: hai [19:24] Quintasan: Pong. [19:25] ScottK: oh, there you are. I see you are endorsing kklimonda's MOTU application, would you have some time to show up at the meeting? [19:25] Sure. [19:26] ScottK: Thanks :) [19:32] Riddell: We're going to push Project Neon tonight [19:47] Quintasan: ooh! [19:47] What can be done is done [19:47] What can't be done will be done later [19:48] We need valorie to publish the dot article [19:49] Riddell: I will publish an entry on my blog tomorrow as time allows and we should be ready for tons of bugreports [20:18] apachelogger: by the way did you develop your movie player with qml ? :P [20:19] (few days ago you told about that... nop ?) [20:21] I'm just curious ;) [20:24] haven't built the foundations yet [20:30] is anyone using kde trunk/master with Natty ? [20:31] afiestas: not self built - but our neon packages, what's the question? [20:34] I'm having some weird problem when using KDE compiled by myself [20:35] I install it in ~/kdeinstall, and don't know why the system is mixing libraries from /usr and from ~/kdeinstall [20:35] all env vars are set correctly, and well I have been using this config since I'm a kde developer [20:36] I'm setting the env in startkde (well a wrapper that execute's it) and in .bashrc (just in case) :/ [20:37] and the exact problem I'm having, is that Qt is loading oxygen.so from /usr while using liboxygen from ~/kdeinstall [20:38] QT_PLUGIN_PATH <-- is set too [20:40] hm, I'm not too good with libraries, so the only reason I could think of is that whatever uses oxygen.so is linked against the one in /usr. Shouldn't happen though as long as QT_PLUGIN_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH are set at build time... [20:42] oxygen.so is loaded at runtime, the problem is that Qt is using the /usr .so instead of ~/kdeinstall [20:43] I can see that in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf too [21:04] ok, I think I can confirm that... and it seems to be the cause of one of our neon issues... [21:28] the dot article has been submitted [21:29] valorie: okay awesome [21:30] y'all have done great work [23:04] That was a success [23:05] I handed out over 250 Kubuntu CDs at the conference. === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz === kozz_ is now known as kozz === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose [23:15] DarkwingDuck: what conference was that? [23:15] http://i.imgur.com/EkPYj.png equalizer with phonon gstreamer [23:15] * apachelogger needs some praise [23:16] apachelogger: you rock more than Ossy Osborne [23:16] Riddell: SCALE (Southern California Linux Expo) [23:16] yay [23:16] About 2000 people were there. [23:16] I did a tal and presentation on Kubuntu and KDE there. [23:17] s/tal/talk [23:17] lovely [23:18] It went really well. Talked to loads of people who left Kubuntu during the KDE3 to KDE4 switch and they love it once again. === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [23:22] bbiab... having a quick meeting with Jono Bacon about Kubuntu Community ideas. [23:24] meetings++ [23:24] community++ [23:24] Aye [23:25] Plus, at the next California Loco elections I wont be running for re-election but spending more time in Kubuntu community stuff in the US. [23:25] porting kdelibs to android :O [23:25] omg [23:25] they are all going crazy [23:26] How about Qt dev for Android. [23:26] I've already been playing around with Python for android. [23:26] you are not up-to-date my friend [23:26] :) [23:26] http://dot.kde.org/2011/02/24/qt-everywhere-community-android-port-announces-alpha-release [23:27] Hey, I was busy all weekend. [23:27] well [23:27] LOL [23:27] you are not on the kde-promo list ;) [23:27] Oh I am. [23:27] that is the real problem [23:27] * apachelogger actually only read that by accident [23:27] I just have not reviewed those emails yet. [23:27] DarkwingDuck: the mail was sent last week or something [23:28] anyhow [23:28] Like I said.... [23:28] LOL [23:28] Sweet. [23:28] we are killing android dead anyway [23:28] kubuntu is supreme!!! [23:28] EXTERMINATE!!!! [23:28] Then tell me how I can get it on my Moto Droid. :P [23:28] easy, get a sensible phone :P [23:28] actually [23:29] if someone sends me one I could probably get it to run [23:29] * apachelogger slowly gets the hang of this mobile stuff [23:29] the OMAP board on the Moto Droid is the same one on the n900 [23:29] so... it *should* work. [23:29] actually I am sure it will [23:29] if I can just get the bootloader to load the image. [23:29] the tricky part is getting the drivers necessary and actually get the image on the device [23:30] The only issue I'm going to run into... [23:30] Is the Verizon using CDMA instead of GSM [23:30] So, I have to pull apart a verizon kernal and gleem the CDMA information out. [23:30] hmmm [23:31] and see if I can't get it to work with kubuntu-mobile [23:31] finding a lib/app that does CDMA will be more tricky I suppose [23:31] So i can actually use it to make phone calls. [23:31] I'll have to figure out how to port one from the android side o.O [23:31] actually I have yet to make a phone call with the n900 :D [23:31] DarkwingDuck: they probably only have closed source stuffz [23:32] That's fixable. [23:32] It's who you know. [23:32] hehe [23:33] reach out and touch faith I say :D [23:33] But... I just need to find a way to run it first and make sure it work.s [23:34] depechemode++ [23:34] DarkwingDuck: well, natty is currently broken on arm [23:34] KDE that is [23:34] thanks to shitty gcc [23:34] i would use the Maverick one. [23:34] and even more shitty workaround in Qt [23:34] you'll need to build your own kernel then [23:34] maverick omap3 kernel will not boot on your board [23:36] It boots on teh n900? [23:36] no [23:36] Only Natty does? [23:36] we used the n900 kernel on maverick [23:36] DarkwingDuck: neither [23:36] ahhhhhhhhh [23:36] DarkwingDuck: the n900 kernel on natty FTBFS right now [23:36] Okay, weeeeeeee [23:36] but we have a package, so technically .... [23:36] buildig a kernal. [23:36] apachelogger: how is KDE broken on ARM? [23:37] DarkwingDuck: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/mobile/kernel/ [23:37] Riddell: segfaults [23:37] Riddell: gcc 4.5 has problems with precompiled headers in Qt, which made unity segfault [23:37] so they forced gcc 4.4 for Qt [23:37] BUT [23:37] the function in question is inline, so that does not fix KDE [23:37] there is a patch for gcc though [23:38] hmm, that's not so good [23:38] yeah [23:40] apachelogger: do you have a bug number or other reference? [23:41] Riddell: bug 705689 [23:41] Launchpad bug 705689 in Linaro GCC 4.5 "Qt applications crash with segfault error on armel when Qt is built with gcc 4.5 on natty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705689 [23:41] Riddell: ScottK poke doko already [23:51] Well... hmmz. [23:52] That could have gone better. [23:56] apachelogger, Riddell We need to sit down and talk about ideas/plans for what we want to accomplish in Kubuntu Community or, intergrating the Kubuntu Community with Ubuntu Community. [23:56] However we want to do it. [23:58] as long as there is free booze involved I am in [23:58] Well, seeing that I'm in the US it'll have to be via IRC. [23:58] Unless I make it out to UDS in May [23:59] Even if I'm not there is persone I'll either skype in or participate