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Guest35534virtualbox??? what is that?00:00
Guest35534i have found it its a virtual ambit for linux and windows00:03
Guest35534or?00:03
Guest35534are any germans here?00:04
Pici!de00:05
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Guest35534ok alles klar00:06
Guest35534bye00:07
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FanfareQ: regarding nfs exports, what is the fsid meant for? is it only an arbitrary digit to seperate exports from each other ? or is it meant to show features of the underlying fs?00:11
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naryfahey, where do I sed no password for sudo?00:40
naryfaanobody here/00:43
ttayes00:43
naryfaanybody knows?00:44
ttawhat...?00:45
naryfa(07:40:16 PM) naryfa: hey, where do I sed no password for sudo?00:46
naryfaset*00:46
ttasudo like sudoku?00:49
naryfanvm00:49
ttai dont know, sorry00:54
tta i started the installation of ubuntu 10.10 in my laptop but after de decompression the system launched my previous os; please what is the meaning of that?00:56
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nikitisHow do i install java?  I don't see the sun-java6-jre packages anymore.01:43
ttaif your java is design for windows you must use wine01:44
nikitisnot using windows01:45
nikitisneed java for non-windows apps01:45
ttai said if your java was "designed" for wind...01:47
nikitisOkay, well it's not.01:48
nikitisCan we move on?01:48
nikitisI have the .bin, but there is no installation instructions in the README01:49
nikitisi extracted it01:49
nikitisbut i dont know what to do after that01:49
ttadid you see something with .exe (extension)01:51
nikitisdude i'm in kubuntu.  Why would i see .exe?01:55
nikitisI'm not running windows apps.  Linux java apps01:55
ttait's and the name of installation extension files (it's universal)01:56
Mase_wktta: it's not universal02:06
Mase_wktta: he's gone now but the advice he was looking for was to chmod +x the .bin file02:06
Mase_wkand then ./filename.bin02:07
ttaok sorry for the wrong info02:10
rtdoshaving issues removing a program: openoffice.org--coooder (a syntax hilighter for openoffice) - when i try to reinstall it or remove it, i keep getting told that openoffice is running in the background. how can i remove and purge 'openoffice.org-coooder' ?02:20
natartdos: may be you can try to find it out whether 'soffice.bin' process and kill it in system monitor02:24
sizzdoes anyone else have problems with X progressively taking up loads of RAM (1.8GB on my system after 7 days uptime) and if so, what could be the problem (video-related?)?02:27
somekoolrtdos: you might have bettter luck switching to LibreOffice. OpenOffice won't get anymore updates02:27
somekoolsizz: X process itself ? could be an extension, or a separate process. try to dig a little more02:28
sizzsomekool: how should I dig?02:30
somekoolwhat version of KDE are you running É02:32
somekool?02:32
sizz4.602:34
somekool(just a quick & easy idea) restart your computer, open up ksysguard or top in a konsole. make sure X is not taking much memory at startup. keep an eye on it as you normally use your computer and try to see when it starts taking more ressource02:35
natasizz: you should state that whick software you got open along this 7 days. xorg will keep eating RAM in some uploading software02:38
rtdosthanks, nata it worked.03:06
natartdos: :)03:06
rtdosbtw, how do i get into grub (or safe mode) so that i can do any necessary repairs?) when i am / was using startup manager to edit grub for me but when i select safe mode it just continues to boot.03:07
natain kubuntu safe mode is all console text line. Grub is just a list to loading to os. if you don't known how to use console text better create one more user to do repair or upgrade new distribution system03:11
rtdosnata, i can't even get grub to work properly. when i get into repair mode it bypases the repair mode and boots normally though i do see the repair menu.03:52
TheOnehello03:53
TheOnesomeone active?03:53
ttafeel free03:54
TheOnei need to know whether the kde4libs kubuntu patch is still necessary kubuntu_06_user_disk_mounting.diff ?03:54
natartdos: completely delete the grub and reinstll back at synaptic may solve your problem. but take your own risk if your computer got 2 os. but it can self detect la.03:55
TheOnei can find it in kde4libs natty branch - does that mean he is still necessary?03:55
natai cant find kde4libs in synaptic03:57
TheOneit is only a source package03:58
natamy one is maverik version. i think din install this package03:59
nataby default03:59
TheOnehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kde4libs&searchon=sourcenames&suite=all&section=all03:59
natamay be somebody will help you :) keep asking and waitting03:59
TheOnethat patch "fixed" or better work around a problem that is reportet in debian bts too (see here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609171 )04:01
TheOneand that bug is marked as fixed upstream04:01
rtdosnata: what do you mean delete the grub? my machine only has one OS installed.04:01
TheOnebut i cant find any info where and how that fix looks like04:02
natartdos: you know synaptic? or kpackagekit?04:02
natartdos: find it at there using search "grub". see which version you install and then completely remove them and reinstall back before you restart !!!!!04:03
nataTheOne: i dont have idea to software lib04:04
ttai cannot play videos on you tube with my mozilla in Kubuntu 9.10,why?04:04
natatta: install flash player04:04
natatta: or just install kubuntu restric extra04:05
TheOnenata: another (easier) question, does the (k)ubuntu installer write partition entries to your /etc/fstab?04:05
TheOneif your /etc/fstab contains entries for your extra partitions can you unmount them via dolphin?04:07
natatta: got04:07
natatta: sorry wrong info04:08
nataTheOne: got04:08
rtdosok. i will try that, thanks Nata.04:08
natartdos: :)04:08
rtdosso nata i should do a 'sudo apt-get remove --purge grub' followed by a reinstall ?04:08
nataTheOne: cannot. must using 'storage device manager'. download at synaptic04:09
natartdos: mayb. console text i dont knw. sorry :)04:09
TheOnedolphin shows at the bottom a little error message - what it is if you try to unmount?04:10
TheOnesomething like the partition was not mounted via hal ?04:10
nataTheOne: cause you dont have right to unmount them04:11
TheOnelol thx04:11
nataTheOne: storage device manager is for you set default wan mount or ummount04:11
TheOnenice patch - now i really understand why debian does not use it04:11
natahehe04:12
TheOneyeah i know how to mount and umount04:12
TheOnethe real problem is that dolphin, policykit or something in hal is not compatible04:12
natamay b you are right..04:13
TheOnethats why dolphin complains about missing permissions04:13
TheOneif you use kdesu dolphin it works, you can mount and unmount partitions04:13
TheOnebut it is not recommend to use dolphin that way04:14
TheOnethis "pretty" patch catches the hal error message and call a privilleged dbus-send command04:15
TheOneso you can mount and umount them04:16
natahehe. you are programmer?04:16
TheOneno kde dev nor c++/qt - i can read the code but my qt programming skills are ... cheap ;)04:16
TheOnei am involved in kanotix04:17
TheOneand we have the problem that debian has - we cant mount via dolphin04:17
TheOnethe kubuntu patch works in live mode because there are no /etc/fstab entries for the partitions04:18
TheOnethe installer creates these entries04:18
natayou known well04:18
TheOneand here your kubuntu patch is not working anymore04:19
TheOnecause hal does not unmount partitions that are not mounted via hal04:19
TheOneyou tested it ;)04:19
TheOnethats the reason why i want to know where and how it is fixed upstream04:20
TheOnei guess they know the real root of this problem04:21
TheOneand maybe i can backport that fix for kde4libs 4.404:21
TheOneaka debian stable04:21
TheOnebut no one provides any upstream information belonging to that dolphin mount bug04:22
TheOnei searched kdes bts but nothing helpfull04:22
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luisferBuenas !04:42
luisfern00b en kubuntu ..04:43
kyubutsu!es | luisfer04:44
ubottuluisfer: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.04:44
kyubutsu:)04:45
luisferthanks !04:45
rtdoshelp! i lost grub! all i get is a "Grub Rescue>" prompt now... :-(04:50
rtdos!grub04:51
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.04:51
rtdos!grub204:51
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub204:51
arunce!kate04:58
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code04:58
arunce!code04:58
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator04:58
Daskreech!help05:04
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:04
cardplayerhello all05:04
Daskreechhi05:05
Daskreechall isn't here right now would you like to leave a message?05:05
cardplayerso i am new to linux is this a channel i can ask questions in?05:05
Daskreechyes05:05
Daskreech!help05:05
cardplayer!help05:05
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:05
cardplayergot it05:05
billytwowillyis there an arabic kubuntu or ubuntu support channel?05:06
tta#KUBUNTU-beginners05:06
Daskreech!ar05:06
ubottuLa comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe05:06
DaskreechUm05:06
Daskreechhmm05:06
Daskreech>_>05:06
billytwowillyhmm.05:06
ttahe he05:07
DaskreechHold on there is one05:07
Daskreech!arabic05:07
ubottuFor Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية05:07
DaskreechThere we go05:07
cardplayerok i booted from the desktop disk but it seems to be crashing it keeps kicking me out of the GUI and into a command line interface ...i am well versed in dos commands but obv linux commands i have no idea i am not sure how to continue setup05:07
cardplayerany ideas?05:07
Daskreechcardplayer: This is the live CD?05:07
cardplayerits the desktop version i downloaded from the main site05:07
billytwowillythanks.05:08
Daskreechcardplayer: Correct I wanted to know if it was the Cd or you already installed it?05:08
cardplayerthe cd is crashing cant begin install05:08
billytwowillyor maybe I should say "gracias";)05:08
ttayou burned it at which speed05:09
cardplayeri suppose max05:09
Daskreechcardplayer: Umm ok lets try and work something out. Is it crashing or you reach to the GUI and it breaks?05:09
cardplayeri reach the gui05:09
cardplayerbut if i try to execute anything from it05:10
Daskreechoh05:10
cardplayerit tosses me into a command line05:10
cardplayeri select language ok05:10
Daskreechso you reach the GUI and get a desktop and everyting is fine05:10
Daskreechtill you click on something?05:10
cardplayeri get a GUI install screen asks me to run from cd or install...check disk for errors etc05:10
Daskreechah ok05:11
Daskreechwhat do you click?05:11
cardplayeri have tried to click check for errors and install05:11
cardplayerboth tosses me into the command line05:11
ttareburn it at 8x at most05:11
cardplayeragreed darkschreech i burned to fast?05:12
cardplayermaybe i am in the wrong channel.... idk what kubuntu is i guess i have the regular version05:14
cardplayerjust ubuntu05:14
* TheOne says usb boot is much faster and less error prone ;)05:14
Daskreechcardplayer: Does sound like it if it you kicks you out there05:16
cardplayeriok05:16
cardplayerok05:17
Daskreechcardplayer: Do you have a USB drive?05:17
cardplayerno05:17
ttait's not a religion but and application. when you burn fastly since some files are compressed the lens while skip some important or heavy files : result during the installation "errors"05:17
cardplayerwhats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?05:17
Daskreechcardplayer: KDE05:18
DaskreechAll the difference in the world :)05:18
cardplayerKDE?05:18
cardplayersorry absolute linux noob05:18
Daskreech!kde05:18
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information.05:18
Daskreechcardplayer: The GUI interface. Just how you interact with the computer05:18
cardplayerwhats the advantage of a kde enviroment05:18
kyubutsualways check the md5 hash before burning.. also, choose a slower burn speed [like 16x]05:18
DaskreechTools are the same mostly but it's just a different way of thinking05:18
cardplayerbetter/// worse for noob?05:19
Daskreechcardplayer: Couldn't tell you for the life of me05:19
ttano 8x05:19
cardplayermore///worse stabel?05:19
cardplayerstable05:19
DaskreechPart of the good part of choice is that if it's the right choice for you then it's better05:19
greenbeanwhy ask these questions?05:19
greenbeanjust frickin install and be done with it05:19
greenbeandecide for your self05:19
DaskreechI'd just say it's different from what GNOME is05:19
ttaslowly but surely05:20
tta;)05:20
kyubutsutechnically same learning curve across the board when compared to any other desktop environment05:20
Daskreechcardplayer: I suppose you could argue that GNOME has higher stability but they are both very solid at this point05:20
cardplayerthanks for your guys input05:20
cardplayerill try to reburn it slower05:20
cardplayersee if it helps05:20
cardplayerthanks again05:21
Daskreechcardplayer: GNOME's philosphy is to have less options so you don't get confused05:21
kyubutsuonce you get past the gui style .. apps like dolphin and gwenview are top notch in usability05:22
Daskreechha I would have thought of it the other way05:22
Daskreechonce you get past the Style in Nautilus you'll find that it actually can be used05:23
kyubutsuall said and done , i DO prefer kde to gnome ..05:23
* kyubutsu chuckles05:23
PlagousWas a skeptic at first, but KDE's starting to grow on me.05:23
DaskreechLike a plague?05:23
PlagousIndeed.05:23
ttaplease can i compile a c program with anjuta05:23
tta?05:23
kyubutsuits an acquired taste .. like anything new05:23
Daskreechtta: I'm sure you can if you please05:24
kyubutsuawkward at first until you get used to it.. same thing if you came from osx into windows , or even from windows xp into vista05:24
ttawhat is th proceedure ?05:24
kyubutsucosmetic looks shouldnt be your priority when choosing a platform, operating system or desktop environment..05:26
kyubutsuthat being said, chances are anyone new to ubuntu will start off with gnome 'cause thats the default desktop environment05:29
Daskreechtta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62346405:30
roacheshello06:10
Mase_wklo06:10
roachesanyone on 10.10?06:10
roaches... :-(06:15
fictionwhy people here don't talk?06:27
kyubutsuthere is #kubuntu-offtopic for chitchat06:27
kyubutsuhere is support talk   :)06:28
fictionthx06:29
leouhey06:33
leougood afternoon to all06:33
ecinx3is it possible to push the whole screen of another computer via ssh?07:44
ecinx3I don't knwo what i did but i can't see a thing from my laptop, I was trying to connect an external monitor. But I can open up programs from the laptop via ssh -X07:45
ecinx3help i can only see the lower part of my scree n07:52
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Anthraxiumhello08:51
Anthraxiumis it possible to switch desktops like ubuntu can?08:51
Anthraxiumctrl+alt+left etc?08:51
dereineAnthraxium: you can configure this on global keyboard shortcuts08:53
Anthraxiumokay08:53
AnthraxiumKDE is annoying when you're a GNOME user08:53
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OchoZero9are there any options for bluetooth devices?? my keyboard keeps acting up10:46
OchoZero9it stops responding within 3-10 minutes of idle. sometimes one key will wake it up, sometimes various taps10:50
du_test11:26
du_hi,everyone11:31
shady_hi11:32
igor__yo11:33
shady_guys sorry, where could i get codecs for playing video & audio files11:45
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shadeslayershady_: simply install kubuntu-restricted-extras12:08
shadeslayerand everything should work12:08
shadeslayer!best > shady_12:31
ubottushady_, please see my private message12:31
coder2Hello. Could anybody please tell me where to ask about lirc and vdr?12:31
shadeslayershady_: when i need to game i use Vista, other than that Kubuntu for daily usage12:34
seidoswhen i need to game i use linux12:35
shadeslayershady_: and please ask your questions here :)12:35
seidosand i die a lot12:35
shadeslayerseidos: well you can't really run Call of Duty 4 MW 2 on wine can you :P12:36
seidosshadeslayer: 0 :P12:38
seidoswas that too much?12:38
shadeslayerhuh?12:38
shady_whoa people talks here too, nice:)12:41
shady_omg i feel like 10 years behined12:42
shady_did some1 tried crossover games to run some games?12:54
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somekoolshady_ not recently13:40
darkasrecently, my flashplayer stopped working, but the package is still installed. I'm on ubuntu 10.10 64 bit, could anyone please help me with that issue?13:47
BluesKajHey folks13:49
dan_____Am I silly or are there no application menus (file, etc, settings etc) in these Netbook Remix applications like Kmail o.o;14:27
rtdosi have a blank grub prompt when i boot my pc: how do i either repair grub from this prompt (minimal bash-like shell) or reinstall grub from the cd?14:40
BluesKajblank grub ? or just a blinking cursor?14:43
BluesKajrtdos  ^14:43
somekoolrtdos: manual boot and use grub-install program14:43
somekoolthere is tons of info on the web14:44
BluesKajsomekool, we try to help  here, telling ppl to google is not the way to help ppl14:44
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somekoolat least I'm giving him a cue. I saw much worse example of poor help, right here, yesterday.14:48
rtdosblueskaj: blank grub.14:48
BluesKajno kernels rtdos , then instll grub from the bashprompt or tty14:49
rtdosthat's where i am at. how can i reconfigure or fix grub from the grub bash shell or reinstall it from the cd ?14:50
rtdosi used tab to view the list of commands but don't see anything 'obvious'14:51
BluesKajrtdos sudo apt-get install grub ,if you have internet14:51
BluesKajrtdos, afterwards do sudo update-grub14:59
rtdosfrom the grub-bash? it's ethernetted to my router will it still see the internet or do i need to do it from the cd?14:59
BluesKajrtdos , tru sudo apt-get update and if you get 404s then you're not connected , then you'll need the live cd15:02
BluesKajtru=try15:02
nikitisAnyone ever experience a weird problem with usb audio mics and locking up KDE while in use?  Once i turn it off KDE unlocks and starts working again.15:03
BluesKajnikitis, the only thing I can think of it's seeing the mic a s storage device and nepomuk might be trying to index it , sounds silly but I've heard of thatbefore15:05
* BluesKaj doesn't understand why ppl buy usb mics15:07
nikitisBluesKaj: hmm okay.  I've noticed xev registers a button press when i turn my mic on.  There is an answer/call or on/off button on the m15:07
nikitisI had a similar problem before with a RAT 7 Gaming mouse15:08
nikitiswe fixed it by adding it to xorg.conf15:08
nikitisbut not sure how to add this device to xorg15:08
nikitisit had too many buttons and it would lock up KDE similarly15:08
nikitisI'm thinking when i press the button it turns the mic on, but keeps it pressed and kde doesn't know to move on15:10
nikitisBecause once I press it again to turn it off, kde resumes15:10
BluesKajnikitis, have you located a driver for the mic first of all , otherwise it might not work anyway , even if you recsolve your kde freeze prob15:10
nikitisthe sound system recognizes it15:11
nikitisand uses it's correct name15:11
BluesKajok then it could be a kde problem which is more difficult, nikitis15:12
BluesKajkde 4.6, nikitis ?15:12
nikitis4.5.115:12
BluesKajnikitis, maverick ?15:13
nikitisYes sir15:13
BluesKajnikitis, perhaps am upgrade to kde 4.6 will help solve the problem , have you considered upgrading ?15:14
BluesKajam=an15:14
nikitisi'll try it15:14
nikitishow do I obtain 4.615:14
nikitismy system is a fresh install15:14
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BluesKajnikitis, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, then, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:16
nikitisI'm trying to setup a system work where i use a vm with this mic.  But the VM Crashes the whole system when the mic is loaded onto it.15:16
BluesKaja vm just for the mic?15:17
nikitisno, i have avaya softphone15:17
nikitisi use for work15:17
nikitisI have 6 GB's of RAM15:17
nikitisSo what I do is, load 2 VM's15:18
kleopatradid i miss an answer ... connection broke15:18
nikitisconnect to work using VPN on both VM's15:18
nikitisone VM is Kubuntu15:18
nikitisone is xp for the softphone15:18
nikitisi do my work on the kubuntu one15:18
nikitisLeaving the regular machine untouched from the VPN15:18
nikitisso I can browse internet safely without being monitored15:19
BluesKajnikitis, well if you want to upgrade , then do the commands I posted above ...I have little knowledger of Virtual Machines and I don't fool around with them , if needde I just dual boot15:19
nikitisI do that as well :)  But you can't use 3 machines at the same time with dualboot15:19
nikitiswhich is required15:20
nikitisI have the same setup in my windows environment15:20
nikitisboot win7, load both VM's15:20
nikitisand it works great15:21
nikitisbut the problem is in KDE doesn't like the mic, and it's the host machine.  So if it doesn't work correctly there, it can't pass that information onto the VM.15:21
nikitisSo my goal is to get it to work in KDE first15:21
nikitisthen problem solved15:22
nikitisi tried that install of but there was nothing to upgrade itsaid15:22
nikitisi added the repositories, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:22
BluesKajright, but the vm crashes with mic , right ?15:22
nikitisVm crashes when it tries to load the mic hardware.  Not the driver part, but at the hardware abstraction layer15:23
nikitisdetecting the mic15:23
BluesKajstrange , windows not seing a usb device , did you install the drivers in the vm ?15:24
nikitisAll OS's have the initial detection of hardware, it may not know what it does or how to use it,  but keeps it in mind, and waits for a driver to claim it.15:24
nikitisthe VM already has the driver for it15:24
nikitisthe problem is, KDE doesn't have the hardware correctly15:25
nikitisso it sends a jacked up hardware ID and freezes up the whole  system when windows tries to take control15:25
nikitisusing the same vm in a windows host, the windows guest detects the hardware fine15:26
nikitiskde isn't passing the hardware to the vm correctl y15:26
BluesKajwell, I'd like to stick around . but we need to do our taxes at the local tax agency , so I have to go for a few hrs..BBL15:26
nikitisbecause it can't handle itself15:26
nikitisokay15:26
nikitisThanks for help15:26
AristideHi !15:34
AristideI have a problem about KDE on Kubuntu15:34
AristideI want to switch from this desktop : http://static.pcinpact.com/images/bd/news/mini-87214-kde-4-5-plasma.jpg , to http://high-tech.portail.free.fr/informatique/28-06-2010/kde-45-la-premiere-release-candidate-est-disponible/80370-kde-4-4-environnement-nepomuk.jpg15:34
AristideKDE run on eepc15:34
manxomeчо как пацаны?15:48
dextrexHow can i reset my password on my os useraccount?15:48
Riddell!ru15:48
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:48
manxomeесть кто жЫвой?15:48
mr-richmanxome: ENGLISH PLEASE!15:49
manxomeэ алё! меня кто нибудь видит?15:49
AristideHeu problem has been fixed !15:50
AristideOther problem : When i maximize a window, the title bar is hidden15:50
AristideHi :)15:50
dextrexHow can i reset the user account password on kubuntu 10.1015:51
Riddelldextrex: k menu -> system settings -> Account Details15:51
dextrexRiddell:  it wants my old password i dont know what it is...15:52
dextrexis there any other way to reset the password15:52
AristideRiddell, Do you know how i can fix this problem ?15:52
Riddelldextrex: you'd need to boot a live CD and edit the /etc/passwd file15:53
AristideWhen i maximize a Window, the titlebar is hidden :/15:53
RiddellAristide: I'm afraid not, I haven't seen that issue15:53
AristideRiddell, Ok15:53
dextrexso how do i do that?15:54
dextrexboot live cd and reinstall?]15:55
Riddelldextrex: boot a live CD, open file manager, mount the hard disk, as root edit /etc/passwd15:56
eagles0513875hey guys im having issues upgrading from lucid to maverick16:10
eagles0513875i installed the update-manager-core and ran do-release upgrade yet its saying no newer version O_o16:10
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eagles0513875!upgrade16:11
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade16:11
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AYJHBearc16:14
eagles0513875hi16:14
AYJHBearsorry that was an accident.16:14
eagles0513875anyone have any idea why i cant upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 i am following the upgrade link yet it still tells me that there is no newer version16:16
nikitis'eagles0513875 you need to change your package kit software to not only select LTS versions16:17
DarthFrogeagles0513875:  You have the update manager set to only look for LTS releases.  You need to change that if you want it to find the 10.10 upgrade.16:18
nikitis10.04 is the latest LTS16:18
eagles0513875so it only works with with LTS upgrades?16:18
DarthFrogNo, it works with all upgrades.16:18
DarthFrogYou just have it set to only look for LTS releases.16:18
eagles0513875no i dont this is a clean install of 10.0416:18
DarthFrogExactly.  That's the default setting.16:19
eagles0513875how do i change that16:19
DarthFrogIn the config section of kpackagekit.16:19
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eagles0513875whoops16:20
eagles0513875#that was staring me in the face on how to do that on command line lol16:20
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speechlessdanWhere is the file menu and such in Netboot? o.O16:42
AYJHBearmy docky doesn't seem to work16:43
AYJHBearit runs but it disappears (I believe it crashed) after I right click on it16:43
speechlessdanI'm silly >.> Thanks guys :D16:46
gobi42what's up guys16:57
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gobi42i just switched to kubuntu from open suse and is there a way that kubuntu can ask for your password just the first time you use an application instead of everytime you use them16:59
DarthFroggobi42: Have you tried kwallet?17:01
gobi42what do you mean do i have to add programs to it or something i mean i use it i login to it everytime i start up my session17:02
DarthFrogIf the app is aware of kwallet, you can store your password there.17:03
gobi42so like the package manger so i don't have to enter my password everytime i download a new application17:04
DarthFrogNot sure.  Worth a try.17:04
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gobi42thanks man i'll give it a shot17:05
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lb_Hi; just installed amarok 2.4.0 from ppa-backports, rebooted and now I have some problems with my sound setup19:43
lb_as I only installed amarok from backports, I am wondering if dist-upgrading every package was a better practice19:44
lb_does anyone have a clue?19:44
lb_IOW, after adding ppa-backports, what is best: apt-get install amarok or apt-get dist-upgrade?19:45
BluesKajlb_, which ppas, the kde upgrades?19:46
lb_BluesKaj: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main19:46
ralf_hii19:47
ralf_anybody here not idle currently?19:49
scanjust a quick question: where is the kubuntu netbook edition available? I found the wiki but nothing on it on the downloads page19:49
alesanhi19:49
ralf_Scan > they're the same distro now19:49
alesanone of the most useful features of kubuntu, the "klipper" tool, does not start automatically anymore19:49
alesanhow can I do?19:49
ralf_just a different package19:49
scanralf_: so I just install the normal thing and then what?19:50
lb_alesan: I think starting it once from the command line made the trick for me19:50
alesanwell19:51
ralf_next you can change it in system settings19:51
ralf_hold on i'm looking19:51
alesanand then how do you shutdown, with 'halt' from the command line of with the graphical shutdown?19:51
ralf_ah yes19:51
ralf_scan: next go to workspace behavior19:52
BluesKajlb_, that's a std backport , so std amarok install19:52
ralf_next choose the third tab19:52
ralf_'workspace'19:52
ralf_you can switch between the regular or the netbook desktop19:52
lb_BluesKaj: thanks, I will further debug what's going on then19:52
scanralf_: thanks a lot, will try it when it's done installing19:53
BluesKajlb_, check alsamixer for changes19:53
ralf_scan > it used to be possible to uninstall the desktop not in use19:53
ralf_for example sudo apt-get remove plasma-netbook19:53
ralf_not anymore though19:54
scanralf_: for now I just hope the partition manager will not crash again19:54
czesiuhello19:57
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czesiui have some problem with my ubuntu enybody help me?19:58
BluesKajralf_, what are you trying to remove ?19:58
czesiudo you now what is right chanell to help me?19:59
BluesKaj!ask |czesiu19:59
ubottuczesiu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:59
ralf_@BluesKaj; nothing, I was explaining that it used to be possible to remove the plasma desktop package not in use20:00
ralf_question though20:00
scanoh god I clicked 'install' ten minutes ago and it is still loading from disk...20:00
ralf_I have a huge interest in text to speech solutions20:01
ralf_i have a couple of cepstral voices installed20:01
ralf_they work great from the command line20:01
ralf_but for example in kopete20:02
ralf_i can redirect incoming/outgoing messages to a script20:02
ralf_I'd like kopete use the voice to read incoming messages to me20:02
czesiusome tomes i install something in synaptic i don't remember exacley what was but omething with mac X in name and now when i start ubuntu i see cross on the desktop and i don't have buttons on window to close minimalize or maxymalize i must go to desktop efekt and wnen i chose extra screan efect everything is ok but hwen i restart system i have this same problem20:03
BluesKajralf_, ok ...a minor point , the @ won't highlight a nick on irc , the nick will highlight the line when included in a query or reply20:03
BluesKajczesiu, are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?20:04
czesiudo enybody have some idea20:05
czesiuubuntu20:05
czesiuwhat the difrents betwen ubuntu and kubuntu?20:05
BluesKajczesiu, join #ubuntu , they can help you there20:05
BluesKajkubuntu =kde desktop, ubuntu=gnome desktop20:06
czesiuthx20:07
scanah well, obviously I cannot install kubuntu, it crashes all the time so I won't even see the dialog20:07
BluesKajscan, live-cd ?20:08
scanlive usb20:08
czesiuwhit one is better for biginer user20:08
scanczesiu: I'd claim they're both about equal, but some say ubuntu is cleaner and closer to what people are used to (windows)20:09
BluesKajczesiu, one isn't better than the other for beginners , but ubuntu has more users and support20:09
BluesKajscan, kde has more of a windows 'look' to it IMO :)20:10
scanBluesKaj: in my opinion, both try to be like apple, you know.. the cool os20:11
BluesKaji mean when did windows put the panels at the top as default20:11
scanalso I cannot give any objective opinion on kubuntu cos it won't install20:11
macoBluesKaj: i honestly don't think the location of the apps menu is the biggest thing in the world20:11
BluesKaj!alternate |scan20:12
ubottuscan: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal20:12
macoi understand when gnome is compared to osx for getting rid of options though20:12
BluesKajmaybe not to an ubuntu user, scan20:12
BluesKajand maco20:13
scanBluesKaj: Ubuntu user by heart, only looking for the right thing for my lappy20:14
BluesKajand the default cartooney 'look' in previous gnome desktops and icons ...dunno what's gonna happen next with gnome 3 /unity etc20:15
BluesKajscan, anyway have you considered the alternate install ? It might work for you.20:16
scanBluesKaj: downloading, currently20:16
scanBluesKaj: coulda thought of it myself, thanks20:17
BluesKajI used it the last time I did the clean install on my 6 yr old compaq amd64 desktop , because the live cd din't recognize some of the HW20:18
BluesKajscan, it's reminiscent of the older debian OS installs like lenny20:21
scanBluesKaj: Who's lenny?20:21
czesiuleny kravitz20:22
DaughainUmmmmm.......Debian Lenny, a release....20:22
scanmaybe I should just do gentoo20:23
BluesKajwell debian lenny isn't so old , but itwas recently superceded by 'squeeze' aka 6.020:24
BluesKajscan, do you like hair shirts ? :)20:25
scanBluesKaj: Pardon me?20:25
BluesKajscan, a friend once said , installing gentoo is like wearing a hair shirt20:27
* BluesKaj feels the OT cops on his trail20:27
scanBluesKaj: Naw, installing gentoo is like wasting 10 hours of compile time, then just switching back to ubuntu anyway20:28
BluesKajcompiling is a pita , sometimes it has to be done but I avoid it as much as possible20:29
scanBluesKaj: I always compile my own ghc, it is so much better house made20:30
scanargh now the usb creator crashes!20:33
scanI'll just leave it20:33
* BluesKaj shrugs20:34
scanthanks for your help, everyone20:39
adekHello. I'm new to KDE and I seem to be having problems with sound. When one application is playing something, another application is unable to use the sound. Is that normal?20:52
achondriaThat is not normal20:53
ralf_what computer do you have?20:55
adekSay Dragon Player is paused, watching a video on youtube is pointless, there's no sound.20:55
adekUhm... I built the machine, but it uses ASUS mobo and an AMD6420:55
adekthe soundcard is VIA20:55
ralf_using the built-in sound?20:55
achondriaadek: I'm not sure what causes that, I've seen it happen20:55
adekralf_: yes20:55
ralf_hmm20:56
achondriaadek: have you tried using proprietary drivers?20:56
ralf_might be a pulseaudio problem20:56
ralf_so if you have both programs open20:56
ralf_and one plays audio20:56
adekralf_: there's pulseaudio in KDE? I thought it's Phonon20:56
ralf_not the same thing20:57
adekoh20:57
ralf_phonon is a Qt multimedia framework20:57
adekthere are no proprietary drivers20:57
ralf_sounds like a driver issue21:00
ralf_i have a windows machine kicking around, for ableton live21:00
ralf_similar problem21:00
ralf_i can have one audio producing app running21:00
ralf_if i open a second one21:00
ralf_the first one starts throwing up these weird kernel errors21:01
adekwow21:01
adekHere it happens only in KDE21:01
ralf_well you can try and narrow it down21:01
ralf_by running gnome or xfce21:01
adekgnome one works fine21:02
adekbut that's not a solution21:02
ralf_not really21:02
adek:/21:03
achondriawhat is KDE using for a sound daemon these days? I remember there were options like alsa and openss that sometimes had issues21:04
ralf_yeah21:05
ralf_might be worth a try21:05
ralf_try installing the alsa-oss package21:05
ralf_then prefixing your application with aoss21:05
ralf_for example aoss amarok21:05
adekshould I remove anything before that?21:05
ralf_not to my knowledge21:06
ralf_i use this trick to get the cepstral voices working21:06
adekhey if the package has an X in KPackageKit that means it's installed?21:10
achondriaadek: usually it has a check in front of it. Which version of Kubuntu are you using?21:12
adek10.04.221:12
adek4.6 KDE21:12
achondriaYeah, i think that had an x on the right if it was installed21:12
achondriaan arrow if it wasn't installed21:13
adekhmmm, then I have some alsa stuff installed and some phonon21:13
adekVIA VT1708S21:15
adekthis is the soundcard21:15
achondriacan you bring up a terminal window and do 'which aoss'21:15
adeknothing shows up21:16
achondriaadek: the package you need then is alsa-oss21:16
adekOk, let me install it then.21:17
adekLet's see.21:17
achondriaif you can't find it in kpackage, then do 'sudo apt-get install alsa-oss'21:17
adekShould I restart the system?21:18
adekadek@home:~$ which aoss21:18
adek/usr/bin/aoss21:18
achondriagood, no need to restart , just try what ralf had mantioned21:19
george__hello, how can i change my computer's name on my Kubuntu 10.04 netbook?21:19
adekI have to precede every application with this???21:20
achondriajust for testing yes21:20
achondriageorge__: you should be able to change the name in the /etc/hostname file21:20
george__oooh =021:21
george__thanks ^^21:21
achondriaur welcome21:21
adekbut I can't start firefox with aoss21:22
adeklol21:22
achondriaadek: if I remember correctly, if you right click on the volume taskbar icon, you can get to some config pages21:23
george__ok that fixed it up, thanks achondria21:23
adekok, starting dragon player stole the sound from amarok21:23
adekeven with those commands in front21:23
achondriageorge__: awesome21:23
achondriaadek: go into those config pages and see if you can select the alsa-oss sound daemon21:24
ralf_adek: try running one program with aoss21:24
ralf_the other as-is21:24
adekthere are no config pages here21:25
adekjust Kmix handbook21:25
achondriaim a bit rusty, I'll go look at another pc21:25
ralf_i don't the mixer will help21:25
adekSound drivers supported: ALSA + OSS + PulseAudio21:25
adekSound drivers used: ALSA21:25
adekcan I remove entire sound and install what gnome has?21:26
ralf_don't know21:26
ralf_i figure it'll be hacky21:27
achondriaralf_ what do you think? I've never run gnome21:27
achondriaah21:27
ralf_can you please try the following21:27
ralf_and report the result21:27
ralf_close all audio programs21:27
ralf_anything that may produce sound21:28
ralf_next run one program with aoss21:28
ralf_the other as is21:28
ralf_for example21:28
ralf_aoss firefox21:28
ralf_amarok21:28
FloodBotK1ralf_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:28
adekok just one second21:31
adekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/573666/21:33
adekthis is huge21:33
ralf_no wait21:33
ralf_if you run aoss firefox21:33
ralf_just run amarok normally21:33
adekfirefox won't run with aoss21:34
adekit doesn't start21:34
ralf_hmm21:34
adekI can try between dragon and amarok21:34
ralf_ok21:34
adekBut which output do you need21:35
adekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/573668/21:36
adekI remember I tried KDE on openSUSE and had the exact same problem. That's what stopped me from using KDE in the first place heheh.21:37
adekwhen amarok is playing and I start dragon this is what I get21:39
adekBus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address.21:39
adekIBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon21:39
achondriaadek: what happens if try aoss dragon AND aoss amarok?21:40
adekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/573671/21:42
achondriaadek: was that killing everything and starting from over?21:43
adekfresh start21:43
achondriaadek: dayum21:43
adekwhat?21:43
adekwhat is taht?21:44
adekthat*21:44
achondriaadek: it's being a pita21:44
adekI don't understand :)21:44
achondrialol sry 'dayum' = damn21:44
adekoh lol21:45
adekok, can't help it, KDE isn't meant to work on this computer I guess21:45
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achondriaok, so if you go into system settings, and select sound and video config...21:46
adekbrb21:46
achondriaok21:46
ralf_well to be honest21:47
ralf_when I started with ubuntu21:47
adekI guess I'll have to go back to gnome, sound HAS TO WORK no matter what21:47
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ralf_the problems i experienced with kde very nearly put me off21:47
ralf_but they're all fixed now21:47
ralf_at least for me21:47
ralf_and i really prefer KDE because it uses Qt21:48
ralf_I have been developing in Qt for over a year now21:48
adekwhat's so nice about QT?21:48
adekoh, then that's a different reason21:48
ralf_well apart from that21:48
ralf_the funny thing is21:48
ralf_that back when I used to run Windows21:49
achondriaI think the apps in KDE and the way the windowing system works meets my needs better than anything else21:49
ralf_I developed a program running on Litestep21:49
ralf_which turned out to work in the same vein as plasma-desktop21:50
adekI don't have anything else agains KDE, maybe that drag and drop but which is damn stupid and shouldn't get out to final release.21:50
ralf_so what achondria says; it meets my needs better than the others21:50
adekBut sound ...21:50
adekdrag and drop bug*21:50
achondriaadek: have you tried KDE 10.10?21:50
ralf_try googling your motherboard21:50
ralf_+sound +kde +via maybe21:51
achondriai m sry i meant kubuntu 10.1021:51
adekUhm, I'm having too many problems with the kernel and video drivers on 10.1021:52
adekralf, I'll have to read around, but I see others have the same problem21:53
achondriaIt may just be a poorly supported mobo for kubuntu21:53
adekThanks guys for your input.21:53
adekIt's really appreciated21:53
adekGreat effort.21:53
achondriaglad to brainstorm with you21:53
adekCan't get this on arch channels lol21:53
ralf_for what it's worth21:55
ralf_my old custom built machine21:55
ralf_with asus mobo21:55
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ralf_has it's onboard sound disabled in the bios21:56
ralf_and an audigy 2 zs card plugged in21:56
ralf_with the kX open drivers21:56
ralf_this might not help you maybe21:57
jhutchins!enter21:58
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:58
adekralf_: Uhm, I have an old soundblaster, but this built in is far better lol22:17
adekwhat does phonon do?22:19
hexchhi, I have this strange problem, when my laptop goes to standby I can't do anything it's just black screen22:21
hexchanyone?22:23
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AristidounetHi !22:38
AristidounetI have a problem about kde's effect22:38
AristidounetI must enable this feature manually22:39
AristidounetHe don't want to be enabled for ever22:39
AristidounetI search a solution for fix this problem since two days22:39
Aristidounetno stop22:40
anassalut22:42
AristidounetHi anas22:42
AristidounetPlease speak english here :)22:42
anasah ok22:42
anassorry22:42
anasplease i wonder about a command which can restore Ubuntu22:43
anasit exists ??22:43
anascan u help me please22:45
AristidounetI don't know sorry anas22:45
anas:(22:45
anasbecause i install the pachage of KDE and Ubuntu became less faster :( :(22:46
james147anas: define "restore".... there is no one command to completely reset kubuntu to a fresh installed state... except reintalling it :p22:46
anasi haven't the CD now22:46
anas:D22:46
james147!puregnome22:46
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome22:46
anasthat's why i serch for immediat solution :D :p22:47
anasthank you ubottu22:47
james147!ubottu22:47
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots22:47
TTAduring the installation of my ubuntu 10.10 when i select the language the screen displays :Ubi-language failed with exit code 2. further information maybe found in/var/log/syslog. And when i click on"try again" the message comes again.what do i have to now?please22:48
james147TTA: see #ubuntu for help with ubuntu22:48
anasdont tell me that ubotto is a robot :D22:49
macoanas: well she doesnt have a body...22:49
macobut she is just software22:49
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anashhhh i understand :p22:50
anasi didn't pay attention that's the story :)22:50
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FloodBotK1!netsplit23:08
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit23:08
wqapolWhen I try to eject a disc, it sayys it is busy. How to I detect what is using the DVD disc?23:12
wqapolsudo lsof | grep /dev/sr0 ........ return nothing23:20
francesco_hello23:20
francesco_i have some issue on kde 4 : rebd23:21
francesco_i have some issue on kde 4 : render issue on firefox and kopete23:21
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francesco_now i'm on kde 4.6 but it also happened on kde 4.5 ( i have intel graphics card )23:24
francesco_any hint ?23:25
francesco_it is linked with kwin because only when i activate the effects happens23:25
Aristidounet><23:29
AristidounetHi ^^'23:29
AristidounetThe "dialog effect" of compiz is apply to "openoffice's" and "libreoffice's" menus23:29
AristidounetBut a zoom effect for 1s is not fun on menu ...23:29
AristidounetBut on context menu on desktop, the menu has a fade effect23:30
AristidounetHow use a fad effect on ooo's menu ?23:30
Aristidounet*menus23:30
cato37there is a way to restore kubuntu back to its default settings and restoring the desktop and getting rid of the login names and such, witout reintslling the system, but i cant remember the nomenclature. what words do i need to use to look up restoring kubuntu without reinstalling? (i hope that made sense)23:30
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