[00:00] <Guest35534> virtualbox??? what is that?
[00:03] <Guest35534> i have found it its a virtual ambit for linux and windows
[00:03] <Guest35534> or?
[00:04] <Guest35534> are any germans here?
[00:05] <Pici> !de
[00:06] <Guest35534> ok alles klar
[00:07] <Guest35534> bye
[00:11] <Fanfare> Q: regarding nfs exports, what is the fsid meant for? is it only an arbitrary digit to seperate exports from each other ? or is it meant to show features of the underlying fs?
[00:40] <naryfa> hey, where do I sed no password for sudo?
[00:43] <naryfa> anobody here/
[00:43] <tta> yes
[00:44] <naryfa> anybody knows?
[00:45] <tta> what...?
[00:46] <naryfa> (07:40:16 PM) naryfa: hey, where do I sed no password for sudo?
[00:46] <naryfa> set*
[00:49] <tta> sudo like sudoku?
[00:49] <naryfa> nvm
[00:54] <tta> i dont know, sorry
[00:56] <tta>  i started the installation of ubuntu 10.10 in my laptop but after de decompression the system launched my previous os; please what is the meaning of that?
[01:43] <nikitis> How do i install java?  I don't see the sun-java6-jre packages anymore.
[01:44] <tta> if your java is design for windows you must use wine
[01:45] <nikitis> not using windows
[01:45] <nikitis> need java for non-windows apps
[01:47] <tta> i said if your java was "designed" for wind...
[01:48] <nikitis> Okay, well it's not.
[01:48] <nikitis> Can we move on?
[01:49] <nikitis> I have the .bin, but there is no installation instructions in the README
[01:49] <nikitis> i extracted it
[01:49] <nikitis> but i dont know what to do after that
[01:51] <tta> did you see something with .exe (extension)
[01:55] <nikitis> dude i'm in kubuntu.  Why would i see .exe?
[01:55] <nikitis> I'm not running windows apps.  Linux java apps
[01:56] <tta> it's and the name of installation extension files (it's universal)
[02:06] <Mase_wk> tta: it's not universal
[02:06] <Mase_wk> tta: he's gone now but the advice he was looking for was to chmod +x the .bin file
[02:07] <Mase_wk> and then ./filename.bin
[02:10] <tta> ok sorry for the wrong info
[02:20] <rtdos> having issues removing a program: openoffice.org--coooder (a syntax hilighter for openoffice) - when i try to reinstall it or remove it, i keep getting told that openoffice is running in the background. how can i remove and purge 'openoffice.org-coooder' ?
[02:24] <nata> rtdos: may be you can try to find it out whether 'soffice.bin' process and kill it in system monitor
[02:27] <sizz> does anyone else have problems with X progressively taking up loads of RAM (1.8GB on my system after 7 days uptime) and if so, what could be the problem (video-related?)?
[02:27] <somekool> rtdos: you might have bettter luck switching to LibreOffice. OpenOffice won't get anymore updates
[02:28] <somekool> sizz: X process itself ? could be an extension, or a separate process. try to dig a little more
[02:30] <sizz> somekool: how should I dig?
[02:32] <somekool> what version of KDE are you running É
[02:32] <somekool> ?
[02:34] <sizz> 4.6
[02:35] <somekool> (just a quick & easy idea) restart your computer, open up ksysguard or top in a konsole. make sure X is not taking much memory at startup. keep an eye on it as you normally use your computer and try to see when it starts taking more ressource
[02:38] <nata> sizz: you should state that whick software you got open along this 7 days. xorg will keep eating RAM in some uploading software
[03:06] <rtdos> thanks, nata it worked.
[03:06] <nata> rtdos: :)
[03:07] <rtdos> btw, how do i get into grub (or safe mode) so that i can do any necessary repairs?) when i am / was using startup manager to edit grub for me but when i select safe mode it just continues to boot.
[03:11] <nata> in kubuntu safe mode is all console text line. Grub is just a list to loading to os. if you don't known how to use console text better create one more user to do repair or upgrade new distribution system
[03:52] <rtdos> nata, i can't even get grub to work properly. when i get into repair mode it bypases the repair mode and boots normally though i do see the repair menu.
[03:53] <TheOne> hello
[03:53] <TheOne> someone active?
[03:54] <tta> feel free
[03:54] <TheOne> i need to know whether the kde4libs kubuntu patch is still necessary kubuntu_06_user_disk_mounting.diff ?
[03:55] <nata> rtdos: completely delete the grub and reinstll back at synaptic may solve your problem. but take your own risk if your computer got 2 os. but it can self detect la.
[03:55] <TheOne> i can find it in kde4libs natty branch - does that mean he is still necessary?
[03:57] <nata> i cant find kde4libs in synaptic
[03:58] <TheOne> it is only a source package
[03:59] <nata> my one is maverik version. i think din install this package
[03:59] <nata> by default
[03:59] <TheOne> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kde4libs&searchon=sourcenames&suite=all&section=all
[03:59] <nata> may be somebody will help you :) keep asking and waitting
[04:01] <TheOne> that patch "fixed" or better work around a problem that is reportet in debian bts too (see here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609171 )
[04:01] <TheOne> and that bug is marked as fixed upstream
[04:01] <rtdos> nata: what do you mean delete the grub? my machine only has one OS installed.
[04:02] <TheOne> but i cant find any info where and how that fix looks like
[04:02] <nata> rtdos: you know synaptic? or kpackagekit?
[04:03] <nata> rtdos: find it at there using search "grub". see which version you install and then completely remove them and reinstall back before you restart !!!!!
[04:04] <nata> TheOne: i dont have idea to software lib
[04:04] <tta> i cannot play videos on you tube with my mozilla in Kubuntu 9.10,why?
[04:04] <nata> tta: install flash player
[04:05] <nata> tta: or just install kubuntu restric extra
[04:05] <TheOne> nata: another (easier) question, does the (k)ubuntu installer write partition entries to your /etc/fstab?
[04:07] <TheOne> if your /etc/fstab contains entries for your extra partitions can you unmount them via dolphin?
[04:07] <nata> tta: got
[04:08] <nata> tta: sorry wrong info
[04:08] <nata> TheOne: got
[04:08] <rtdos> ok. i will try that, thanks Nata.
[04:08] <nata> rtdos: :)
[04:08] <rtdos> so nata i should do a 'sudo apt-get remove --purge grub' followed by a reinstall ?
[04:09] <nata> TheOne: cannot. must using 'storage device manager'. download at synaptic
[04:09] <nata> rtdos: mayb. console text i dont knw. sorry :)
[04:10] <TheOne> dolphin shows at the bottom a little error message - what it is if you try to unmount?
[04:10] <TheOne> something like the partition was not mounted via hal ?
[04:11] <nata> TheOne: cause you dont have right to unmount them
[04:11] <TheOne> lol thx
[04:11] <nata> TheOne: storage device manager is for you set default wan mount or ummount
[04:11] <TheOne> nice patch - now i really understand why debian does not use it
[04:12] <nata> hehe
[04:12] <TheOne> yeah i know how to mount and umount
[04:12] <TheOne> the real problem is that dolphin, policykit or something in hal is not compatible
[04:13] <nata> may b you are right..
[04:13] <TheOne> thats why dolphin complains about missing permissions
[04:13] <TheOne> if you use kdesu dolphin it works, you can mount and unmount partitions
[04:14] <TheOne> but it is not recommend to use dolphin that way
[04:15] <TheOne> this "pretty" patch catches the hal error message and call a privilleged dbus-send command
[04:16] <TheOne> so you can mount and umount them
[04:16] <nata> hehe. you are programmer?
[04:16] <TheOne> no kde dev nor c++/qt - i can read the code but my qt programming skills are ... cheap ;)
[04:17] <TheOne> i am involved in kanotix
[04:17] <TheOne> and we have the problem that debian has - we cant mount via dolphin
[04:18] <TheOne> the kubuntu patch works in live mode because there are no /etc/fstab entries for the partitions
[04:18] <TheOne> the installer creates these entries
[04:18] <nata> you known well
[04:19] <TheOne> and here your kubuntu patch is not working anymore
[04:19] <TheOne> cause hal does not unmount partitions that are not mounted via hal
[04:19] <TheOne> you tested it ;)
[04:20] <TheOne> thats the reason why i want to know where and how it is fixed upstream
[04:21] <TheOne> i guess they know the real root of this problem
[04:21] <TheOne> and maybe i can backport that fix for kde4libs 4.4
[04:21] <TheOne> aka debian stable
[04:22] <TheOne> but no one provides any upstream information belonging to that dolphin mount bug
[04:22] <TheOne> i searched kdes bts but nothing helpfull
[04:42] <luisfer> Buenas !
[04:43] <luisfer> n00b en kubuntu ..
[04:44] <kyubutsu> !es | luisfer
[04:45] <kyubutsu> :)
[04:45] <luisfer> thanks !
[04:50] <rtdos> help! i lost grub! all i get is a "Grub Rescue>" prompt now... :-(
[04:51] <rtdos> !grub
[04:51] <rtdos> !grub2
[04:58] <arunce> !kate
[04:58] <arunce> !code
[05:04] <Daskreech> !help
[05:04] <cardplayer> hello all
[05:05] <Daskreech> hi
[05:05] <Daskreech> all isn't here right now would you like to leave a message?
[05:05] <cardplayer> so i am new to linux is this a channel i can ask questions in?
[05:05] <Daskreech> yes
[05:05] <Daskreech> !help
[05:05] <cardplayer> !help
[05:05] <cardplayer> got it
[05:06] <billytwowilly> is there an arabic kubuntu or ubuntu support channel?
[05:06] <tta> #KUBUNTU-beginners
[05:06] <Daskreech> !ar
[05:06] <Daskreech> Um
[05:06] <Daskreech> hmm
[05:06] <Daskreech> >_>
[05:06] <billytwowilly> hmm.
[05:07] <tta> he he
[05:07] <Daskreech> Hold on there is one
[05:07] <Daskreech> !arabic
[05:07] <Daskreech> There we go
[05:07] <cardplayer> ok i booted from the desktop disk but it seems to be crashing it keeps kicking me out of the GUI and into a command line interface ...i am well versed in dos commands but obv linux commands i have no idea i am not sure how to continue setup
[05:07] <cardplayer> any ideas?
[05:07] <Daskreech> cardplayer: This is the live CD?
[05:07] <cardplayer> its the desktop version i downloaded from the main site
[05:08] <billytwowilly> thanks.
[05:08] <Daskreech> cardplayer: Correct I wanted to know if it was the Cd or you already installed it?
[05:08] <cardplayer> the cd is crashing cant begin install
[05:08] <billytwowilly> or maybe I should say "gracias";)
[05:09] <tta> you burned it at which speed
[05:09] <cardplayer> i suppose max
[05:09] <Daskreech> cardplayer: Umm ok lets try and work something out. Is it crashing or you reach to the GUI and it breaks?
[05:09] <cardplayer> i reach the gui
[05:10] <cardplayer> but if i try to execute anything from it
[05:10] <Daskreech> oh
[05:10] <cardplayer> it tosses me into a command line
[05:10] <cardplayer> i select language ok
[05:10] <Daskreech> so you reach the GUI and get a desktop and everyting is fine
[05:10] <Daskreech> till you click on something?
[05:10] <cardplayer> i get a GUI install screen asks me to run from cd or install...check disk for errors etc
[05:11] <Daskreech> ah ok
[05:11] <Daskreech> what do you click?
[05:11] <cardplayer> i have tried to click check for errors and install
[05:11] <cardplayer> both tosses me into the command line
[05:11] <tta> reburn it at 8x at most
[05:12] <cardplayer> agreed darkschreech i burned to fast?
[05:14] <cardplayer> maybe i am in the wrong channel.... idk what kubuntu is i guess i have the regular version
[05:14] <cardplayer> just ubuntu
[05:14]  * TheOne says usb boot is much faster and less error prone ;)
[05:16] <Daskreech> cardplayer: Does sound like it if it you kicks you out there
[05:16] <cardplayer> iok
[05:17] <cardplayer> ok
[05:17] <Daskreech> cardplayer: Do you have a USB drive?
[05:17] <cardplayer> no
[05:17] <tta> it's not a religion but and application. when you burn fastly since some files are compressed the lens while skip some important or heavy files : result during the installation "errors"
[05:17] <cardplayer> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[05:18] <Daskreech> cardplayer: KDE
[05:18] <Daskreech> All the difference in the world :)
[05:18] <cardplayer> KDE?
[05:18] <cardplayer> sorry absolute linux noob
[05:18] <Daskreech> !kde
[05:18] <Daskreech> cardplayer: The GUI interface. Just how you interact with the computer
[05:18] <cardplayer> whats the advantage of a kde enviroment
[05:18] <kyubutsu> always check the md5 hash before burning.. also, choose a slower burn speed [like 16x]
[05:18] <Daskreech> Tools are the same mostly but it's just a different way of thinking
[05:19] <cardplayer> better/// worse for noob?
[05:19] <Daskreech> cardplayer: Couldn't tell you for the life of me
[05:19] <tta> no 8x
[05:19] <cardplayer> more///worse stabel?
[05:19] <cardplayer> stable
[05:19] <Daskreech> Part of the good part of choice is that if it's the right choice for you then it's better
[05:19] <greenbean> why ask these questions?
[05:19] <greenbean> just frickin install and be done with it
[05:19] <greenbean> decide for your self
[05:19] <Daskreech> I'd just say it's different from what GNOME is
[05:20] <tta> slowly but surely
[05:20] <tta> ;)
[05:20] <kyubutsu> technically same learning curve across the board when compared to any other desktop environment
[05:20] <Daskreech> cardplayer: I suppose you could argue that GNOME has higher stability but they are both very solid at this point
[05:20] <cardplayer> thanks for your guys input
[05:20] <cardplayer> ill try to reburn it slower
[05:20] <cardplayer> see if it helps
[05:21] <cardplayer> thanks again
[05:21] <Daskreech> cardplayer: GNOME's philosphy is to have less options so you don't get confused
[05:22] <kyubutsu> once you get past the gui style .. apps like dolphin and gwenview are top notch in usability
[05:22] <Daskreech> ha I would have thought of it the other way
[05:23] <Daskreech> once you get past the Style in Nautilus you'll find that it actually can be used
[05:23] <kyubutsu> all said and done , i DO prefer kde to gnome ..
[05:23]  * kyubutsu chuckles
[05:23] <Plagous> Was a skeptic at first, but KDE's starting to grow on me.
[05:23] <Daskreech> Like a plague?
[05:23] <Plagous> Indeed.
[05:23] <tta> please can i compile a c program with anjuta
[05:23] <tta> ?
[05:23] <kyubutsu> its an acquired taste .. like anything new
[05:24] <Daskreech> tta: I'm sure you can if you please
[05:24] <kyubutsu> awkward at first until you get used to it.. same thing if you came from osx into windows , or even from windows xp into vista
[05:24] <tta> what is th proceedure ?
[05:26] <kyubutsu> cosmetic looks shouldnt be your priority when choosing a platform, operating system or desktop environment..
[05:29] <kyubutsu> that being said, chances are anyone new to ubuntu will start off with gnome 'cause thats the default desktop environment
[05:30] <Daskreech> tta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623464
[06:10] <roaches> hello
[06:10] <Mase_wk> lo
[06:10] <roaches> anyone on 10.10?
[06:15] <roaches> ... :-(
[06:27] <fiction> why people here don't talk?
[06:27] <kyubutsu> there is #kubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[06:28] <kyubutsu> here is support talk   :)
[06:29] <fiction> thx
[06:33] <leou> hey
[06:33] <leou> good afternoon to all
[07:44] <ecinx3> is it possible to push the whole screen of another computer via ssh?
[07:45] <ecinx3> I don't knwo what i did but i can't see a thing from my laptop, I was trying to connect an external monitor. But I can open up programs from the laptop via ssh -X
[07:52] <ecinx3> help i can only see the lower part of my scree n
[08:51] <Anthraxium> hello
[08:51] <Anthraxium> is it possible to switch desktops like ubuntu can?
[08:51] <Anthraxium> ctrl+alt+left etc?
[08:53] <dereine> Anthraxium: you can configure this on global keyboard shortcuts
[08:53] <Anthraxium> okay
[08:53] <Anthraxium> KDE is annoying when you're a GNOME user
[10:46] <OchoZero9> are there any options for bluetooth devices?? my keyboard keeps acting up
[10:50] <OchoZero9> it stops responding within 3-10 minutes of idle. sometimes one key will wake it up, sometimes various taps
[11:26] <du_> test
[11:31] <du_> hi,everyone
[11:32] <shady_> hi
[11:33] <igor__> yo
[11:45] <shady_> guys sorry, where could i get codecs for playing video & audio files
[12:08] <shadeslayer> shady_: simply install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:08] <shadeslayer> and everything should work
[12:31] <shadeslayer> !best > shady_
[12:31] <coder2> Hello. Could anybody please tell me where to ask about lirc and vdr?
[12:34] <shadeslayer> shady_: when i need to game i use Vista, other than that Kubuntu for daily usage
[12:35] <seidos> when i need to game i use linux
[12:35] <shadeslayer> shady_: and please ask your questions here :)
[12:35] <seidos> and i die a lot
[12:36] <shadeslayer> seidos: well you can't really run Call of Duty 4 MW 2 on wine can you :P
[12:38] <seidos> shadeslayer: 0 :P
[12:38] <seidos> was that too much?
[12:38] <shadeslayer> huh?
[12:41] <shady_> whoa people talks here too, nice:)
[12:42] <shady_> omg i feel like 10 years behined
[12:54] <shady_> did some1 tried crossover games to run some games?
[13:40] <somekool> shady_ not recently
[13:47] <darkas> recently, my flashplayer stopped working, but the package is still installed. I'm on ubuntu 10.10 64 bit, could anyone please help me with that issue?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:27] <dan_____> Am I silly or are there no application menus (file, etc, settings etc) in these Netbook Remix applications like Kmail o.o;
[14:40] <rtdos> i have a blank grub prompt when i boot my pc: how do i either repair grub from this prompt (minimal bash-like shell) or reinstall grub from the cd?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> blank grub ? or just a blinking cursor?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> rtdos  ^
[14:43] <somekool> rtdos: manual boot and use grub-install program
[14:44] <somekool> there is tons of info on the web
[14:44] <BluesKaj> somekool, we try to help  here, telling ppl to google is not the way to help ppl
[14:48] <somekool> at least I'm giving him a cue. I saw much worse example of poor help, right here, yesterday.
[14:48] <rtdos> blueskaj: blank grub.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> no kernels rtdos , then instll grub from the bashprompt or tty
[14:50] <rtdos> that's where i am at. how can i reconfigure or fix grub from the grub bash shell or reinstall it from the cd ?
[14:51] <rtdos> i used tab to view the list of commands but don't see anything 'obvious'
[14:51] <BluesKaj> rtdos sudo apt-get install grub ,if you have internet
[14:59] <BluesKaj> rtdos, afterwards do sudo update-grub
[14:59] <rtdos> from the grub-bash? it's ethernetted to my router will it still see the internet or do i need to do it from the cd?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> rtdos , tru sudo apt-get update and if you get 404s then you're not connected , then you'll need the live cd
[15:02] <BluesKaj> tru=try
[15:03] <nikitis> Anyone ever experience a weird problem with usb audio mics and locking up KDE while in use?  Once i turn it off KDE unlocks and starts working again.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> nikitis, the only thing I can think of it's seeing the mic a s storage device and nepomuk might be trying to index it , sounds silly but I've heard of thatbefore
[15:07]  * BluesKaj doesn't understand why ppl buy usb mics
[15:07] <nikitis> BluesKaj: hmm okay.  I've noticed xev registers a button press when i turn my mic on.  There is an answer/call or on/off button on the m
[15:08] <nikitis> I had a similar problem before with a RAT 7 Gaming mouse
[15:08] <nikitis> we fixed it by adding it to xorg.conf
[15:08] <nikitis> but not sure how to add this device to xorg
[15:08] <nikitis> it had too many buttons and it would lock up KDE similarly
[15:10] <nikitis> I'm thinking when i press the button it turns the mic on, but keeps it pressed and kde doesn't know to move on
[15:10] <nikitis> Because once I press it again to turn it off, kde resumes
[15:10] <BluesKaj> nikitis, have you located a driver for the mic first of all , otherwise it might not work anyway , even if you recsolve your kde freeze prob
[15:11] <nikitis> the sound system recognizes it
[15:11] <nikitis> and uses it's correct name
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ok then it could be a kde problem which is more difficult, nikitis
[15:12] <BluesKaj> kde 4.6, nikitis ?
[15:12] <nikitis> 4.5.1
[15:13] <BluesKaj> nikitis, maverick ?
[15:13] <nikitis> Yes sir
[15:14] <BluesKaj> nikitis, perhaps am upgrade to kde 4.6 will help solve the problem , have you considered upgrading ?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> am=an
[15:14] <nikitis> i'll try it
[15:14] <nikitis> how do I obtain 4.6
[15:14] <nikitis> my system is a fresh install
[15:16] <BluesKaj> nikitis, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, then, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:16] <nikitis> I'm trying to setup a system work where i use a vm with this mic.  But the VM Crashes the whole system when the mic is loaded onto it.
[15:17] <BluesKaj> a vm just for the mic?
[15:17] <nikitis> no, i have avaya softphone
[15:17] <nikitis> i use for work
[15:17] <nikitis> I have 6 GB's of RAM
[15:18] <nikitis> So what I do is, load 2 VM's
[15:18] <kleopatra> did i miss an answer ... connection broke
[15:18] <nikitis> connect to work using VPN on both VM's
[15:18] <nikitis> one VM is Kubuntu
[15:18] <nikitis> one is xp for the softphone
[15:18] <nikitis> i do my work on the kubuntu one
[15:18] <nikitis> Leaving the regular machine untouched from the VPN
[15:19] <nikitis> so I can browse internet safely without being monitored
[15:19] <BluesKaj> nikitis, well if you want to upgrade , then do the commands I posted above ...I have little knowledger of Virtual Machines and I don't fool around with them , if needde I just dual boot
[15:19] <nikitis> I do that as well :)  But you can't use 3 machines at the same time with dualboot
[15:20] <nikitis> which is required
[15:20] <nikitis> I have the same setup in my windows environment
[15:20] <nikitis> boot win7, load both VM's
[15:21] <nikitis> and it works great
[15:21] <nikitis> but the problem is in KDE doesn't like the mic, and it's the host machine.  So if it doesn't work correctly there, it can't pass that information onto the VM.
[15:21] <nikitis> So my goal is to get it to work in KDE first
[15:22] <nikitis> then problem solved
[15:22] <nikitis> i tried that install of but there was nothing to upgrade itsaid
[15:22] <nikitis> i added the repositories, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:22] <BluesKaj> right, but the vm crashes with mic , right ?
[15:23] <nikitis> Vm crashes when it tries to load the mic hardware.  Not the driver part, but at the hardware abstraction layer
[15:23] <nikitis> detecting the mic
[15:24] <BluesKaj> strange , windows not seing a usb device , did you install the drivers in the vm ?
[15:24] <nikitis> All OS's have the initial detection of hardware, it may not know what it does or how to use it,  but keeps it in mind, and waits for a driver to claim it.
[15:24] <nikitis> the VM already has the driver for it
[15:25] <nikitis> the problem is, KDE doesn't have the hardware correctly
[15:25] <nikitis> so it sends a jacked up hardware ID and freezes up the whole  system when windows tries to take control
[15:26] <nikitis> using the same vm in a windows host, the windows guest detects the hardware fine
[15:26] <nikitis> kde isn't passing the hardware to the vm correctl y
[15:26] <BluesKaj> well, I'd like to stick around . but we need to do our taxes at the local tax agency , so I have to go for a few hrs..BBL
[15:26] <nikitis> because it can't handle itself
[15:26] <nikitis> okay
[15:26] <nikitis> Thanks for help
[15:34] <Aristide> Hi !
[15:34] <Aristide> I have a problem about KDE on Kubuntu
[15:34] <Aristide> I want to switch from this desktop : http://static.pcinpact.com/images/bd/news/mini-87214-kde-4-5-plasma.jpg , to http://high-tech.portail.free.fr/informatique/28-06-2010/kde-45-la-premiere-release-candidate-est-disponible/80370-kde-4-4-environnement-nepomuk.jpg
[15:34] <Aristide> KDE run on eepc
[15:48] <manxome> чо как пацаны?
[15:48] <dextrex> How can i reset my password on my os useraccount?
[15:48] <Riddell> !ru
[15:48] <manxome> есть кто жЫвой?
[15:49] <mr-rich> manxome: ENGLISH PLEASE!
[15:49] <manxome> э алё! меня кто нибудь видит?
[15:50] <Aristide> Heu problem has been fixed !
[15:50] <Aristide> Other problem : When i maximize a window, the title bar is hidden
[15:50] <Aristide> Hi :)
[15:51] <dextrex> How can i reset the user account password on kubuntu 10.10
[15:51] <Riddell> dextrex: k menu -> system settings -> Account Details
[15:52] <dextrex> Riddell:  it wants my old password i dont know what it is...
[15:52] <dextrex> is there any other way to reset the password
[15:52] <Aristide> Riddell, Do you know how i can fix this problem ?
[15:53] <Riddell> dextrex: you'd need to boot a live CD and edit the /etc/passwd file
[15:53] <Aristide> When i maximize a Window, the titlebar is hidden :/
[15:53] <Riddell> Aristide: I'm afraid not, I haven't seen that issue
[15:53] <Aristide> Riddell, Ok
[15:54] <dextrex> so how do i do that?
[15:55] <dextrex> boot live cd and reinstall?]
[15:56] <Riddell> dextrex: boot a live CD, open file manager, mount the hard disk, as root edit /etc/passwd
[16:10] <eagles0513875> hey guys im having issues upgrading from lucid to maverick
[16:10] <eagles0513875> i installed the update-manager-core and ran do-release upgrade yet its saying no newer version O_o
[16:11] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[16:14] <AYJHBear> c
[16:14] <eagles0513875> hi
[16:14] <AYJHBear> sorry that was an accident.
[16:16] <eagles0513875> anyone have any idea why i cant upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 i am following the upgrade link yet it still tells me that there is no newer version
[16:17] <nikitis> 'eagles0513875 you need to change your package kit software to not only select LTS versions
[16:18] <DarthFrog> eagles0513875:  You have the update manager set to only look for LTS releases.  You need to change that if you want it to find the 10.10 upgrade.
[16:18] <nikitis> 10.04 is the latest LTS
[16:18] <eagles0513875> so it only works with with LTS upgrades?
[16:18] <DarthFrog> No, it works with all upgrades.
[16:18] <DarthFrog> You just have it set to only look for LTS releases.
[16:18] <eagles0513875> no i dont this is a clean install of 10.04
[16:19] <DarthFrog> Exactly.  That's the default setting.
[16:19] <eagles0513875> how do i change that
[16:19] <DarthFrog> In the config section of kpackagekit.
[16:20] <eagles0513875> whoops
[16:20] <eagles0513875> #that was staring me in the face on how to do that on command line lol
[16:42] <speechlessdan> Where is the file menu and such in Netboot? o.O
[16:43] <AYJHBear> my docky doesn't seem to work
[16:43] <AYJHBear> it runs but it disappears (I believe it crashed) after I right click on it
[16:46] <speechlessdan> I'm silly >.> Thanks guys :D
[16:57] <gobi42> what's up guys
[16:59] <gobi42> i just switched to kubuntu from open suse and is there a way that kubuntu can ask for your password just the first time you use an application instead of everytime you use them
[17:01] <DarthFrog> gobi42: Have you tried kwallet?
[17:02] <gobi42> what do you mean do i have to add programs to it or something i mean i use it i login to it everytime i start up my session
[17:03] <DarthFrog> If the app is aware of kwallet, you can store your password there.
[17:04] <gobi42> so like the package manger so i don't have to enter my password everytime i download a new application
[17:04] <DarthFrog> Not sure.  Worth a try.
[17:05] <gobi42> thanks man i'll give it a shot
[19:43] <lb_> Hi; just installed amarok 2.4.0 from ppa-backports, rebooted and now I have some problems with my sound setup
[19:44] <lb_> as I only installed amarok from backports, I am wondering if dist-upgrading every package was a better practice
[19:44] <lb_> does anyone have a clue?
[19:45] <lb_> IOW, after adding ppa-backports, what is best: apt-get install amarok or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[19:46] <BluesKaj> lb_, which ppas, the kde upgrades?
[19:46] <lb_> BluesKaj: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main
[19:47] <ralf_> hii
[19:49] <ralf_> anybody here not idle currently?
[19:49] <scan> just a quick question: where is the kubuntu netbook edition available? I found the wiki but nothing on it on the downloads page
[19:49] <alesan> hi
[19:49] <ralf_> Scan > they're the same distro now
[19:49] <alesan> one of the most useful features of kubuntu, the "klipper" tool, does not start automatically anymore
[19:49] <alesan> how can I do?
[19:49] <ralf_> just a different package
[19:50] <scan> ralf_: so I just install the normal thing and then what?
[19:50] <lb_> alesan: I think starting it once from the command line made the trick for me
[19:51] <alesan> well
[19:51] <ralf_> next you can change it in system settings
[19:51] <ralf_> hold on i'm looking
[19:51] <alesan> and then how do you shutdown, with 'halt' from the command line of with the graphical shutdown?
[19:51] <ralf_> ah yes
[19:52] <ralf_> scan: next go to workspace behavior
[19:52] <BluesKaj> lb_, that's a std backport , so std amarok install
[19:52] <ralf_> next choose the third tab
[19:52] <ralf_> 'workspace'
[19:52] <ralf_> you can switch between the regular or the netbook desktop
[19:52] <lb_> BluesKaj: thanks, I will further debug what's going on then
[19:53] <scan> ralf_: thanks a lot, will try it when it's done installing
[19:53] <BluesKaj> lb_, check alsamixer for changes
[19:53] <ralf_> scan > it used to be possible to uninstall the desktop not in use
[19:53] <ralf_> for example sudo apt-get remove plasma-netbook
[19:54] <ralf_> not anymore though
[19:54] <scan> ralf_: for now I just hope the partition manager will not crash again
[19:57] <czesiu> hello
[19:58] <czesiu> i have some problem with my ubuntu enybody help me?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> ralf_, what are you trying to remove ?
[19:59] <czesiu> do you now what is right chanell to help me?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> !ask |czesiu
[20:00] <ralf_> @BluesKaj; nothing, I was explaining that it used to be possible to remove the plasma desktop package not in use
[20:00] <ralf_> question though
[20:00] <scan> oh god I clicked 'install' ten minutes ago and it is still loading from disk...
[20:01] <ralf_> I have a huge interest in text to speech solutions
[20:01] <ralf_> i have a couple of cepstral voices installed
[20:01] <ralf_> they work great from the command line
[20:02] <ralf_> but for example in kopete
[20:02] <ralf_> i can redirect incoming/outgoing messages to a script
[20:02] <ralf_> I'd like kopete use the voice to read incoming messages to me
[20:03] <czesiu> some tomes i install something in synaptic i don't remember exacley what was but omething with mac X in name and now when i start ubuntu i see cross on the desktop and i don't have buttons on window to close minimalize or maxymalize i must go to desktop efekt and wnen i chose extra screan efect everything is ok but hwen i restart system i have this same problem
[20:03] <BluesKaj> ralf_, ok ...a minor point , the @ won't highlight a nick on irc , the nick will highlight the line when included in a query or reply
[20:04] <BluesKaj> czesiu, are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[20:05] <czesiu> do enybody have some idea
[20:05] <czesiu> ubuntu
[20:05] <czesiu> what the difrents betwen ubuntu and kubuntu?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> czesiu, join #ubuntu , they can help you there
[20:06] <BluesKaj> kubuntu =kde desktop, ubuntu=gnome desktop
[20:07] <czesiu> thx
[20:07] <scan> ah well, obviously I cannot install kubuntu, it crashes all the time so I won't even see the dialog
[20:08] <BluesKaj> scan, live-cd ?
[20:08] <scan> live usb
[20:08] <czesiu> whit one is better for biginer user
[20:09] <scan> czesiu: I'd claim they're both about equal, but some say ubuntu is cleaner and closer to what people are used to (windows)
[20:09] <BluesKaj> czesiu, one isn't better than the other for beginners , but ubuntu has more users and support
[20:10] <BluesKaj> scan, kde has more of a windows 'look' to it IMO :)
[20:11] <scan> BluesKaj: in my opinion, both try to be like apple, you know.. the cool os
[20:11] <BluesKaj> i mean when did windows put the panels at the top as default
[20:11] <scan> also I cannot give any objective opinion on kubuntu cos it won't install
[20:11] <maco> BluesKaj: i honestly don't think the location of the apps menu is the biggest thing in the world
[20:12] <BluesKaj> !alternate |scan
[20:12] <maco> i understand when gnome is compared to osx for getting rid of options though
[20:12] <BluesKaj> maybe not to an ubuntu user, scan
[20:13] <BluesKaj> and maco
[20:14] <scan> BluesKaj: Ubuntu user by heart, only looking for the right thing for my lappy
[20:15] <BluesKaj> and the default cartooney 'look' in previous gnome desktops and icons ...dunno what's gonna happen next with gnome 3 /unity etc
[20:16] <BluesKaj> scan, anyway have you considered the alternate install ? It might work for you.
[20:16] <scan> BluesKaj: downloading, currently
[20:17] <scan> BluesKaj: coulda thought of it myself, thanks
[20:18] <BluesKaj> I used it the last time I did the clean install on my 6 yr old compaq amd64 desktop , because the live cd din't recognize some of the HW
[20:21] <BluesKaj> scan, it's reminiscent of the older debian OS installs like lenny
[20:21] <scan> BluesKaj: Who's lenny?
[20:22] <czesiu> leny kravitz
[20:22] <Daughain> Ummmmm.......Debian Lenny, a release....
[20:23] <scan> maybe I should just do gentoo
[20:24] <BluesKaj> well debian lenny isn't so old , but itwas recently superceded by 'squeeze' aka 6.0
[20:25] <BluesKaj> scan, do you like hair shirts ? :)
[20:25] <scan> BluesKaj: Pardon me?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> scan, a friend once said , installing gentoo is like wearing a hair shirt
[20:27]  * BluesKaj feels the OT cops on his trail
[20:28] <scan> BluesKaj: Naw, installing gentoo is like wasting 10 hours of compile time, then just switching back to ubuntu anyway
[20:29] <BluesKaj> compiling is a pita , sometimes it has to be done but I avoid it as much as possible
[20:30] <scan> BluesKaj: I always compile my own ghc, it is so much better house made
[20:33] <scan> argh now the usb creator crashes!
[20:33] <scan> I'll just leave it
[20:34]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[20:39] <scan> thanks for your help, everyone
[20:52] <adek> Hello. I'm new to KDE and I seem to be having problems with sound. When one application is playing something, another application is unable to use the sound. Is that normal?
[20:53] <achondria> That is not normal
[20:55] <ralf_> what computer do you have?
[20:55] <adek> Say Dragon Player is paused, watching a video on youtube is pointless, there's no sound.
[20:55] <adek> Uhm... I built the machine, but it uses ASUS mobo and an AMD64
[20:55] <adek> the soundcard is VIA
[20:55] <ralf_> using the built-in sound?
[20:55] <achondria> adek: I'm not sure what causes that, I've seen it happen
[20:55] <adek> ralf_: yes
[20:56] <ralf_> hmm
[20:56] <achondria> adek: have you tried using proprietary drivers?
[20:56] <ralf_> might be a pulseaudio problem
[20:56] <ralf_> so if you have both programs open
[20:56] <ralf_> and one plays audio
[20:56] <adek> ralf_: there's pulseaudio in KDE? I thought it's Phonon
[20:57] <ralf_> not the same thing
[20:57] <adek> oh
[20:57] <ralf_> phonon is a Qt multimedia framework
[20:57] <adek> there are no proprietary drivers
[21:00] <ralf_> sounds like a driver issue
[21:00] <ralf_> i have a windows machine kicking around, for ableton live
[21:00] <ralf_> similar problem
[21:00] <ralf_> i can have one audio producing app running
[21:00] <ralf_> if i open a second one
[21:01] <ralf_> the first one starts throwing up these weird kernel errors
[21:01] <adek> wow
[21:01] <adek> Here it happens only in KDE
[21:01] <ralf_> well you can try and narrow it down
[21:01] <ralf_> by running gnome or xfce
[21:02] <adek> gnome one works fine
[21:02] <adek> but that's not a solution
[21:02] <ralf_> not really
[21:03] <adek> :/
[21:04] <achondria> what is KDE using for a sound daemon these days? I remember there were options like alsa and openss that sometimes had issues
[21:05] <ralf_> yeah
[21:05] <ralf_> might be worth a try
[21:05] <ralf_> try installing the alsa-oss package
[21:05] <ralf_> then prefixing your application with aoss
[21:05] <ralf_> for example aoss amarok
[21:05] <adek> should I remove anything before that?
[21:06] <ralf_> not to my knowledge
[21:06] <ralf_> i use this trick to get the cepstral voices working
[21:10] <adek> hey if the package has an X in KPackageKit that means it's installed?
[21:12] <achondria> adek: usually it has a check in front of it. Which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[21:12] <adek> 10.04.2
[21:12] <adek> 4.6 KDE
[21:12] <achondria> Yeah, i think that had an x on the right if it was installed
[21:13] <achondria> an arrow if it wasn't installed
[21:13] <adek> hmmm, then I have some alsa stuff installed and some phonon
[21:15] <adek> VIA VT1708S
[21:15] <adek> this is the soundcard
[21:15] <achondria> can you bring up a terminal window and do 'which aoss'
[21:16] <adek> nothing shows up
[21:16] <achondria> adek: the package you need then is alsa-oss
[21:17] <adek> Ok, let me install it then.
[21:17] <adek> Let's see.
[21:17] <achondria> if you can't find it in kpackage, then do 'sudo apt-get install alsa-oss'
[21:18] <adek> Should I restart the system?
[21:18] <adek> adek@home:~$ which aoss
[21:18] <adek> /usr/bin/aoss
[21:19] <achondria> good, no need to restart , just try what ralf had mantioned
[21:19] <george__> hello, how can i change my computer's name on my Kubuntu 10.04 netbook?
[21:20] <adek> I have to precede every application with this???
[21:20] <achondria> just for testing yes
[21:20] <achondria> george__: you should be able to change the name in the /etc/hostname file
[21:21] <george__> oooh =0
[21:21] <george__> thanks ^^
[21:21] <achondria> ur welcome
[21:22] <adek> but I can't start firefox with aoss
[21:22] <adek> lol
[21:23] <achondria> adek: if I remember correctly, if you right click on the volume taskbar icon, you can get to some config pages
[21:23] <george__> ok that fixed it up, thanks achondria
[21:23] <adek> ok, starting dragon player stole the sound from amarok
[21:23] <adek> even with those commands in front
[21:23] <achondria> george__: awesome
[21:24] <achondria> adek: go into those config pages and see if you can select the alsa-oss sound daemon
[21:24] <ralf_> adek: try running one program with aoss
[21:24] <ralf_> the other as-is
[21:25] <adek> there are no config pages here
[21:25] <adek> just Kmix handbook
[21:25] <achondria> im a bit rusty, I'll go look at another pc
[21:25] <ralf_> i don't the mixer will help
[21:25] <adek> Sound drivers supported: ALSA + OSS + PulseAudio
[21:25] <adek> Sound drivers used: ALSA
[21:26] <adek> can I remove entire sound and install what gnome has?
[21:26] <ralf_> don't know
[21:27] <ralf_> i figure it'll be hacky
[21:27] <achondria> ralf_ what do you think? I've never run gnome
[21:27] <achondria> ah
[21:27] <ralf_> can you please try the following
[21:27] <ralf_> and report the result
[21:27] <ralf_> close all audio programs
[21:28] <ralf_> anything that may produce sound
[21:28] <ralf_> next run one program with aoss
[21:28] <ralf_> the other as is
[21:28] <ralf_> for example
[21:28] <ralf_> aoss firefox
[21:28] <ralf_> amarok
[21:28] <FloodBotK1> ralf_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <adek> ok just one second
[21:33] <adek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/573666/
[21:33] <adek> this is huge
[21:33] <ralf_> no wait
[21:33] <ralf_> if you run aoss firefox
[21:33] <ralf_> just run amarok normally
[21:34] <adek> firefox won't run with aoss
[21:34] <adek> it doesn't start
[21:34] <ralf_> hmm
[21:34] <adek> I can try between dragon and amarok
[21:34] <ralf_> ok
[21:35] <adek> But which output do you need
[21:36] <adek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/573668/
[21:37] <adek> I remember I tried KDE on openSUSE and had the exact same problem. That's what stopped me from using KDE in the first place heheh.
[21:39] <adek> when amarok is playing and I start dragon this is what I get
[21:39] <adek> Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address.
[21:39] <adek> IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon
[21:40] <achondria> adek: what happens if try aoss dragon AND aoss amarok?
[21:42] <adek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/573671/
[21:43] <achondria> adek: was that killing everything and starting from over?
[21:43] <adek> fresh start
[21:43] <achondria> adek: dayum
[21:43] <adek> what?
[21:44] <adek> what is taht?
[21:44] <adek> that*
[21:44] <achondria> adek: it's being a pita
[21:44] <adek> I don't understand :)
[21:44] <achondria> lol sry 'dayum' = damn
[21:45] <adek> oh lol
[21:45] <adek> ok, can't help it, KDE isn't meant to work on this computer I guess
[21:46] <achondria> ok, so if you go into system settings, and select sound and video config...
[21:46] <adek> brb
[21:46] <achondria> ok
[21:47] <ralf_> well to be honest
[21:47] <ralf_> when I started with ubuntu
[21:47] <adek> I guess I'll have to go back to gnome, sound HAS TO WORK no matter what
[21:47] <ralf_> the problems i experienced with kde very nearly put me off
[21:47] <ralf_> but they're all fixed now
[21:47] <ralf_> at least for me
[21:48] <ralf_> and i really prefer KDE because it uses Qt
[21:48] <ralf_> I have been developing in Qt for over a year now
[21:48] <adek> what's so nice about QT?
[21:48] <adek> oh, then that's a different reason
[21:48] <ralf_> well apart from that
[21:48] <ralf_> the funny thing is
[21:49] <ralf_> that back when I used to run Windows
[21:49] <achondria> I think the apps in KDE and the way the windowing system works meets my needs better than anything else
[21:49] <ralf_> I developed a program running on Litestep
[21:50] <ralf_> which turned out to work in the same vein as plasma-desktop
[21:50] <adek> I don't have anything else agains KDE, maybe that drag and drop but which is damn stupid and shouldn't get out to final release.
[21:50] <ralf_> so what achondria says; it meets my needs better than the others
[21:50] <adek> But sound ...
[21:50] <adek> drag and drop bug*
[21:50] <achondria> adek: have you tried KDE 10.10?
[21:50] <ralf_> try googling your motherboard
[21:51] <ralf_> +sound +kde +via maybe
[21:51] <achondria> i m sry i meant kubuntu 10.10
[21:52] <adek> Uhm, I'm having too many problems with the kernel and video drivers on 10.10
[21:53] <adek> ralf, I'll have to read around, but I see others have the same problem
[21:53] <achondria> It may just be a poorly supported mobo for kubuntu
[21:53] <adek> Thanks guys for your input.
[21:53] <adek> It's really appreciated
[21:53] <adek> Great effort.
[21:53] <achondria> glad to brainstorm with you
[21:53] <adek> Can't get this on arch channels lol
[21:55] <ralf_> for what it's worth
[21:55] <ralf_> my old custom built machine
[21:55] <ralf_> with asus mobo
[21:56] <ralf_> has it's onboard sound disabled in the bios
[21:56] <ralf_> and an audigy 2 zs card plugged in
[21:56] <ralf_> with the kX open drivers
[21:57] <ralf_> this might not help you maybe
[21:58] <jhutchins> !enter
[22:17] <adek> ralf_: Uhm, I have an old soundblaster, but this built in is far better lol
[22:19] <adek> what does phonon do?
[22:21] <hexch> hi, I have this strange problem, when my laptop goes to standby I can't do anything it's just black screen
[22:23] <hexch> anyone?
[22:38] <Aristidounet> Hi !
[22:38] <Aristidounet> I have a problem about kde's effect
[22:39] <Aristidounet> I must enable this feature manually
[22:39] <Aristidounet> He don't want to be enabled for ever
[22:39] <Aristidounet> I search a solution for fix this problem since two days
[22:40] <Aristidounet> no stop
[22:42] <anas> salut
[22:42] <Aristidounet> Hi anas
[22:42] <Aristidounet> Please speak english here :)
[22:42] <anas> ah ok
[22:42] <anas> sorry
[22:43] <anas> please i wonder about a command which can restore Ubuntu
[22:43] <anas> it exists ??
[22:45] <anas> can u help me please
[22:45] <Aristidounet> I don't know sorry anas
[22:45] <anas> :(
[22:46] <anas> because i install the pachage of KDE and Ubuntu became less faster :( :(
[22:46] <james147> anas: define "restore".... there is no one command to completely reset kubuntu to a fresh installed state... except reintalling it :p
[22:46] <anas> i haven't the CD now
[22:46] <anas> :D
[22:46] <james147> !puregnome
[22:47] <anas> that's why i serch for immediat solution :D :p
[22:47] <anas> thank you ubottu
[22:47] <james147> !ubottu
[22:48] <TTA> during the installation of my ubuntu 10.10 when i select the language the screen displays :Ubi-language failed with exit code 2. further information maybe found in/var/log/syslog. And when i click on"try again" the message comes again.what do i have to now?please
[22:48] <james147> TTA: see #ubuntu for help with ubuntu
[22:49] <anas> dont tell me that ubotto is a robot :D
[22:49] <maco> anas: well she doesnt have a body...
[22:49] <maco> but she is just software
[22:50] <anas> hhhh i understand :p
[22:50] <anas> i didn't pay attention that's the story :)
[23:08] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[23:12] <wqapol> When I try to eject a disc, it sayys it is busy. How to I detect what is using the DVD disc?
[23:20] <wqapol> sudo lsof | grep /dev/sr0 ........ return nothing
[23:20] <francesco_> hello
[23:21] <francesco_> i have some issue on kde 4 : rebd
[23:21] <francesco_> i have some issue on kde 4 : render issue on firefox and kopete
[23:24] <francesco_> now i'm on kde 4.6 but it also happened on kde 4.5 ( i have intel graphics card )
[23:25] <francesco_> any hint ?
[23:25] <francesco_> it is linked with kwin because only when i activate the effects happens
[23:29] <Aristidounet> ><
[23:29] <Aristidounet> Hi ^^'
[23:29] <Aristidounet> The "dialog effect" of compiz is apply to "openoffice's" and "libreoffice's" menus
[23:29] <Aristidounet> But a zoom effect for 1s is not fun on menu ...
[23:30] <Aristidounet> But on context menu on desktop, the menu has a fade effect
[23:30] <Aristidounet> How use a fad effect on ooo's menu ?
[23:30] <Aristidounet> *menus
[23:30] <cato37> there is a way to restore kubuntu back to its default settings and restoring the desktop and getting rid of the login names and such, witout reintslling the system, but i cant remember the nomenclature. what words do i need to use to look up restoring kubuntu without reinstalling? (i hope that made sense)