[00:00] virtualbox??? what is that? [00:03] i have found it its a virtual ambit for linux and windows [00:03] or? [00:04] are any germans here? [00:05] !de [00:05] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [00:06] ok alles klar [00:07] bye === Guest35534 is now known as christian === christian is now known as Guest35015 [00:11] Q: regarding nfs exports, what is the fsid meant for? is it only an arbitrary digit to seperate exports from each other ? or is it meant to show features of the underlying fs? === tchangang is now known as tta [00:40] hey, where do I sed no password for sudo? [00:43] anobody here/ [00:43] yes [00:44] anybody knows? [00:45] what...? [00:46] (07:40:16 PM) naryfa: hey, where do I sed no password for sudo? [00:46] set* [00:49] sudo like sudoku? [00:49] nvm [00:54] i dont know, sorry [00:56] i started the installation of ubuntu 10.10 in my laptop but after de decompression the system launched my previous os; please what is the meaning of that? === tchangang is now known as tta [01:43] How do i install java? I don't see the sun-java6-jre packages anymore. [01:44] if your java is design for windows you must use wine [01:45] not using windows [01:45] need java for non-windows apps [01:47] i said if your java was "designed" for wind... [01:48] Okay, well it's not. [01:48] Can we move on? [01:49] I have the .bin, but there is no installation instructions in the README [01:49] i extracted it [01:49] but i dont know what to do after that [01:51] did you see something with .exe (extension) [01:55] dude i'm in kubuntu. Why would i see .exe? [01:55] I'm not running windows apps. Linux java apps [01:56] it's and the name of installation extension files (it's universal) [02:06] tta: it's not universal [02:06] tta: he's gone now but the advice he was looking for was to chmod +x the .bin file [02:07] and then ./filename.bin [02:10] ok sorry for the wrong info [02:20] having issues removing a program: openoffice.org--coooder (a syntax hilighter for openoffice) - when i try to reinstall it or remove it, i keep getting told that openoffice is running in the background. how can i remove and purge 'openoffice.org-coooder' ? [02:24] rtdos: may be you can try to find it out whether 'soffice.bin' process and kill it in system monitor [02:27] does anyone else have problems with X progressively taking up loads of RAM (1.8GB on my system after 7 days uptime) and if so, what could be the problem (video-related?)? [02:27] rtdos: you might have bettter luck switching to LibreOffice. OpenOffice won't get anymore updates [02:28] sizz: X process itself ? could be an extension, or a separate process. try to dig a little more [02:30] somekool: how should I dig? [02:32] what version of KDE are you running É [02:32] ? [02:34] 4.6 [02:35] (just a quick & easy idea) restart your computer, open up ksysguard or top in a konsole. make sure X is not taking much memory at startup. keep an eye on it as you normally use your computer and try to see when it starts taking more ressource [02:38] sizz: you should state that whick software you got open along this 7 days. xorg will keep eating RAM in some uploading software [03:06] thanks, nata it worked. [03:06] rtdos: :) [03:07] btw, how do i get into grub (or safe mode) so that i can do any necessary repairs?) when i am / was using startup manager to edit grub for me but when i select safe mode it just continues to boot. [03:11] in kubuntu safe mode is all console text line. Grub is just a list to loading to os. if you don't known how to use console text better create one more user to do repair or upgrade new distribution system [03:52] nata, i can't even get grub to work properly. when i get into repair mode it bypases the repair mode and boots normally though i do see the repair menu. [03:53] hello [03:53] someone active? [03:54] feel free [03:54] i need to know whether the kde4libs kubuntu patch is still necessary kubuntu_06_user_disk_mounting.diff ? [03:55] rtdos: completely delete the grub and reinstll back at synaptic may solve your problem. but take your own risk if your computer got 2 os. but it can self detect la. [03:55] i can find it in kde4libs natty branch - does that mean he is still necessary? [03:57] i cant find kde4libs in synaptic [03:58] it is only a source package [03:59] my one is maverik version. i think din install this package [03:59] by default [03:59] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kde4libs&searchon=sourcenames&suite=all§ion=all [03:59] may be somebody will help you :) keep asking and waitting [04:01] that patch "fixed" or better work around a problem that is reportet in debian bts too (see here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609171 ) [04:01] and that bug is marked as fixed upstream [04:01] nata: what do you mean delete the grub? my machine only has one OS installed. [04:02] but i cant find any info where and how that fix looks like [04:02] rtdos: you know synaptic? or kpackagekit? [04:03] rtdos: find it at there using search "grub". see which version you install and then completely remove them and reinstall back before you restart !!!!! [04:04] TheOne: i dont have idea to software lib [04:04] i cannot play videos on you tube with my mozilla in Kubuntu 9.10,why? [04:04] tta: install flash player [04:05] tta: or just install kubuntu restric extra [04:05] nata: another (easier) question, does the (k)ubuntu installer write partition entries to your /etc/fstab? [04:07] if your /etc/fstab contains entries for your extra partitions can you unmount them via dolphin? [04:07] tta: got [04:08] tta: sorry wrong info [04:08] TheOne: got [04:08] ok. i will try that, thanks Nata. [04:08] rtdos: :) [04:08] so nata i should do a 'sudo apt-get remove --purge grub' followed by a reinstall ? [04:09] TheOne: cannot. must using 'storage device manager'. download at synaptic [04:09] rtdos: mayb. console text i dont knw. sorry :) [04:10] dolphin shows at the bottom a little error message - what it is if you try to unmount? [04:10] something like the partition was not mounted via hal ? [04:11] TheOne: cause you dont have right to unmount them [04:11] lol thx [04:11] TheOne: storage device manager is for you set default wan mount or ummount [04:11] nice patch - now i really understand why debian does not use it [04:12] hehe [04:12] yeah i know how to mount and umount [04:12] the real problem is that dolphin, policykit or something in hal is not compatible [04:13] may b you are right.. [04:13] thats why dolphin complains about missing permissions [04:13] if you use kdesu dolphin it works, you can mount and unmount partitions [04:14] but it is not recommend to use dolphin that way [04:15] this "pretty" patch catches the hal error message and call a privilleged dbus-send command [04:16] so you can mount and umount them [04:16] hehe. you are programmer? [04:16] no kde dev nor c++/qt - i can read the code but my qt programming skills are ... cheap ;) [04:17] i am involved in kanotix [04:17] and we have the problem that debian has - we cant mount via dolphin [04:18] the kubuntu patch works in live mode because there are no /etc/fstab entries for the partitions [04:18] the installer creates these entries [04:18] you known well [04:19] and here your kubuntu patch is not working anymore [04:19] cause hal does not unmount partitions that are not mounted via hal [04:19] you tested it ;) [04:20] thats the reason why i want to know where and how it is fixed upstream [04:21] i guess they know the real root of this problem [04:21] and maybe i can backport that fix for kde4libs 4.4 [04:21] aka debian stable [04:22] but no one provides any upstream information belonging to that dolphin mount bug [04:22] i searched kdes bts but nothing helpfull === Marduk is now known as Guest28844 [04:42] Buenas ! [04:43] n00b en kubuntu .. [04:44] !es | luisfer [04:44] luisfer: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [04:45] :) [04:45] thanks ! [04:50] help! i lost grub! all i get is a "Grub Rescue>" prompt now... :-( [04:51] !grub [04:51] grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [04:51] !grub2 [04:51] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [04:58] !kate [04:58] Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code [04:58] !code [04:58] Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator [05:04] !help [05:04] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:04] hello all [05:05] hi [05:05] all isn't here right now would you like to leave a message? [05:05] so i am new to linux is this a channel i can ask questions in? [05:05] yes [05:05] !help [05:05] !help [05:05] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:05] got it [05:06] is there an arabic kubuntu or ubuntu support channel? [05:06] #KUBUNTU-beginners [05:06] !ar [05:06] La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe [05:06] Um [05:06] hmm [05:06] >_> [05:06] hmm. [05:07] he he [05:07] Hold on there is one [05:07] !arabic [05:07] For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية [05:07] There we go [05:07] ok i booted from the desktop disk but it seems to be crashing it keeps kicking me out of the GUI and into a command line interface ...i am well versed in dos commands but obv linux commands i have no idea i am not sure how to continue setup [05:07] any ideas? [05:07] cardplayer: This is the live CD? [05:07] its the desktop version i downloaded from the main site [05:08] thanks. [05:08] cardplayer: Correct I wanted to know if it was the Cd or you already installed it? [05:08] the cd is crashing cant begin install [05:08] or maybe I should say "gracias";) [05:09] you burned it at which speed [05:09] i suppose max [05:09] cardplayer: Umm ok lets try and work something out. Is it crashing or you reach to the GUI and it breaks? [05:09] i reach the gui [05:10] but if i try to execute anything from it [05:10] oh [05:10] it tosses me into a command line [05:10] i select language ok [05:10] so you reach the GUI and get a desktop and everyting is fine [05:10] till you click on something? [05:10] i get a GUI install screen asks me to run from cd or install...check disk for errors etc [05:11] ah ok [05:11] what do you click? [05:11] i have tried to click check for errors and install [05:11] both tosses me into the command line [05:11] reburn it at 8x at most [05:12] agreed darkschreech i burned to fast? [05:14] maybe i am in the wrong channel.... idk what kubuntu is i guess i have the regular version [05:14] just ubuntu [05:14] * TheOne says usb boot is much faster and less error prone ;) [05:16] cardplayer: Does sound like it if it you kicks you out there [05:16] iok [05:17] ok [05:17] cardplayer: Do you have a USB drive? [05:17] no [05:17] it's not a religion but and application. when you burn fastly since some files are compressed the lens while skip some important or heavy files : result during the installation "errors" [05:17] whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu? [05:18] cardplayer: KDE [05:18] All the difference in the world :) [05:18] KDE? [05:18] sorry absolute linux noob [05:18] !kde [05:18] KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. [05:18] cardplayer: The GUI interface. Just how you interact with the computer [05:18] whats the advantage of a kde enviroment [05:18] always check the md5 hash before burning.. also, choose a slower burn speed [like 16x] [05:18] Tools are the same mostly but it's just a different way of thinking [05:19] better/// worse for noob? [05:19] cardplayer: Couldn't tell you for the life of me [05:19] no 8x [05:19] more///worse stabel? [05:19] stable [05:19] Part of the good part of choice is that if it's the right choice for you then it's better [05:19] why ask these questions? [05:19] just frickin install and be done with it [05:19] decide for your self [05:19] I'd just say it's different from what GNOME is [05:20] slowly but surely [05:20] ;) [05:20] technically same learning curve across the board when compared to any other desktop environment [05:20] cardplayer: I suppose you could argue that GNOME has higher stability but they are both very solid at this point [05:20] thanks for your guys input [05:20] ill try to reburn it slower [05:20] see if it helps [05:21] thanks again [05:21] cardplayer: GNOME's philosphy is to have less options so you don't get confused [05:22] once you get past the gui style .. apps like dolphin and gwenview are top notch in usability [05:22] ha I would have thought of it the other way [05:23] once you get past the Style in Nautilus you'll find that it actually can be used [05:23] all said and done , i DO prefer kde to gnome .. [05:23] * kyubutsu chuckles [05:23] Was a skeptic at first, but KDE's starting to grow on me. [05:23] Like a plague? [05:23] Indeed. [05:23] please can i compile a c program with anjuta [05:23] ? [05:23] its an acquired taste .. like anything new [05:24] tta: I'm sure you can if you please [05:24] awkward at first until you get used to it.. same thing if you came from osx into windows , or even from windows xp into vista [05:24] what is th proceedure ? [05:26] cosmetic looks shouldnt be your priority when choosing a platform, operating system or desktop environment.. [05:29] that being said, chances are anyone new to ubuntu will start off with gnome 'cause thats the default desktop environment [05:30] tta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623464 [06:10] hello [06:10] lo [06:10] anyone on 10.10? [06:15] ... :-( [06:27] why people here don't talk? [06:27] there is #kubuntu-offtopic for chitchat [06:28] here is support talk :) [06:29] thx [06:33] hey [06:33] good afternoon to all [07:44] is it possible to push the whole screen of another computer via ssh? [07:45] I don't knwo what i did but i can't see a thing from my laptop, I was trying to connect an external monitor. But I can open up programs from the laptop via ssh -X [07:52] help i can only see the lower part of my scree n === sandeep is now known as Guest93325 [08:51] hello [08:51] is it possible to switch desktops like ubuntu can? [08:51] ctrl+alt+left etc? [08:53] Anthraxium: you can configure this on global keyboard shortcuts [08:53] okay [08:53] KDE is annoying when you're a GNOME user === seidos is now known as r2d2 === r2d2 is now known as Guest38846 === Guest38846 is now known as seidos === a is now known as Guest67447 === Guest67447 is now known as adorablearian === Hazamonzo is now known as [-Haza-] === mren|off is now known as mren === MattyMatt is now known as MattyServer [10:46] are there any options for bluetooth devices?? my keyboard keeps acting up [10:50] it stops responding within 3-10 minutes of idle. sometimes one key will wake it up, sometimes various taps [11:26] test [11:31] hi,everyone [11:32] hi [11:33] yo [11:45] guys sorry, where could i get codecs for playing video & audio files === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [12:08] shady_: simply install kubuntu-restricted-extras [12:08] and everything should work [12:31] !best > shady_ [12:31] shady_, please see my private message [12:31] Hello. Could anybody please tell me where to ask about lirc and vdr? [12:34] shady_: when i need to game i use Vista, other than that Kubuntu for daily usage [12:35] when i need to game i use linux [12:35] shady_: and please ask your questions here :) [12:35] and i die a lot [12:36] seidos: well you can't really run Call of Duty 4 MW 2 on wine can you :P [12:38] shadeslayer: 0 :P [12:38] was that too much? [12:38] huh? [12:41] whoa people talks here too, nice:) [12:42] omg i feel like 10 years behined [12:54] did some1 tried crossover games to run some games? === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === shadeslayer is now known as kshadeslayer [13:40] shady_ not recently [13:47] recently, my flashplayer stopped working, but the package is still installed. I'm on ubuntu 10.10 64 bit, could anyone please help me with that issue? [13:49] Hey folks [14:27] Am I silly or are there no application menus (file, etc, settings etc) in these Netbook Remix applications like Kmail o.o; [14:40] i have a blank grub prompt when i boot my pc: how do i either repair grub from this prompt (minimal bash-like shell) or reinstall grub from the cd? [14:43] blank grub ? or just a blinking cursor? [14:43] rtdos ^ [14:43] rtdos: manual boot and use grub-install program [14:44] there is tons of info on the web [14:44] somekool, we try to help here, telling ppl to google is not the way to help ppl === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:48] at least I'm giving him a cue. I saw much worse example of poor help, right here, yesterday. [14:48] blueskaj: blank grub. [14:49] no kernels rtdos , then instll grub from the bashprompt or tty [14:50] that's where i am at. how can i reconfigure or fix grub from the grub bash shell or reinstall it from the cd ? [14:51] i used tab to view the list of commands but don't see anything 'obvious' [14:51] rtdos sudo apt-get install grub ,if you have internet [14:59] rtdos, afterwards do sudo update-grub [14:59] from the grub-bash? it's ethernetted to my router will it still see the internet or do i need to do it from the cd? [15:02] rtdos , tru sudo apt-get update and if you get 404s then you're not connected , then you'll need the live cd [15:02] tru=try [15:03] Anyone ever experience a weird problem with usb audio mics and locking up KDE while in use? Once i turn it off KDE unlocks and starts working again. [15:05] nikitis, the only thing I can think of it's seeing the mic a s storage device and nepomuk might be trying to index it , sounds silly but I've heard of thatbefore [15:07] * BluesKaj doesn't understand why ppl buy usb mics [15:07] BluesKaj: hmm okay. I've noticed xev registers a button press when i turn my mic on. There is an answer/call or on/off button on the m [15:08] I had a similar problem before with a RAT 7 Gaming mouse [15:08] we fixed it by adding it to xorg.conf [15:08] but not sure how to add this device to xorg [15:08] it had too many buttons and it would lock up KDE similarly [15:10] I'm thinking when i press the button it turns the mic on, but keeps it pressed and kde doesn't know to move on [15:10] Because once I press it again to turn it off, kde resumes [15:10] nikitis, have you located a driver for the mic first of all , otherwise it might not work anyway , even if you recsolve your kde freeze prob [15:11] the sound system recognizes it [15:11] and uses it's correct name [15:12] ok then it could be a kde problem which is more difficult, nikitis [15:12] kde 4.6, nikitis ? [15:12] 4.5.1 [15:13] nikitis, maverick ? [15:13] Yes sir [15:14] nikitis, perhaps am upgrade to kde 4.6 will help solve the problem , have you considered upgrading ? [15:14] am=an [15:14] i'll try it [15:14] how do I obtain 4.6 [15:14] my system is a fresh install === hacked_ is now known as hacked [15:16] nikitis, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, then, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [15:16] I'm trying to setup a system work where i use a vm with this mic. But the VM Crashes the whole system when the mic is loaded onto it. [15:17] a vm just for the mic? [15:17] no, i have avaya softphone [15:17] i use for work [15:17] I have 6 GB's of RAM [15:18] So what I do is, load 2 VM's [15:18] did i miss an answer ... connection broke [15:18] connect to work using VPN on both VM's [15:18] one VM is Kubuntu [15:18] one is xp for the softphone [15:18] i do my work on the kubuntu one [15:18] Leaving the regular machine untouched from the VPN [15:19] so I can browse internet safely without being monitored [15:19] nikitis, well if you want to upgrade , then do the commands I posted above ...I have little knowledger of Virtual Machines and I don't fool around with them , if needde I just dual boot [15:19] I do that as well :) But you can't use 3 machines at the same time with dualboot [15:20] which is required [15:20] I have the same setup in my windows environment [15:20] boot win7, load both VM's [15:21] and it works great [15:21] but the problem is in KDE doesn't like the mic, and it's the host machine. So if it doesn't work correctly there, it can't pass that information onto the VM. [15:21] So my goal is to get it to work in KDE first [15:22] then problem solved [15:22] i tried that install of but there was nothing to upgrade itsaid [15:22] i added the repositories, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [15:22] right, but the vm crashes with mic , right ? [15:23] Vm crashes when it tries to load the mic hardware. Not the driver part, but at the hardware abstraction layer [15:23] detecting the mic [15:24] strange , windows not seing a usb device , did you install the drivers in the vm ? [15:24] All OS's have the initial detection of hardware, it may not know what it does or how to use it, but keeps it in mind, and waits for a driver to claim it. [15:24] the VM already has the driver for it [15:25] the problem is, KDE doesn't have the hardware correctly [15:25] so it sends a jacked up hardware ID and freezes up the whole system when windows tries to take control [15:26] using the same vm in a windows host, the windows guest detects the hardware fine [15:26] kde isn't passing the hardware to the vm correctl y [15:26] well, I'd like to stick around . but we need to do our taxes at the local tax agency , so I have to go for a few hrs..BBL [15:26] because it can't handle itself [15:26] okay [15:26] Thanks for help [15:34] Hi ! [15:34] I have a problem about KDE on Kubuntu [15:34] I want to switch from this desktop : http://static.pcinpact.com/images/bd/news/mini-87214-kde-4-5-plasma.jpg , to http://high-tech.portail.free.fr/informatique/28-06-2010/kde-45-la-premiere-release-candidate-est-disponible/80370-kde-4-4-environnement-nepomuk.jpg [15:34] KDE run on eepc [15:48] чо как пацаны? [15:48] How can i reset my password on my os useraccount? [15:48] !ru [15:48] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [15:48] есть кто жЫвой? [15:49] manxome: ENGLISH PLEASE! [15:49] э алё! меня кто нибудь видит? [15:50] Heu problem has been fixed ! [15:50] Other problem : When i maximize a window, the title bar is hidden [15:50] Hi :) [15:51] How can i reset the user account password on kubuntu 10.10 [15:51] dextrex: k menu -> system settings -> Account Details [15:52] Riddell: it wants my old password i dont know what it is... [15:52] is there any other way to reset the password [15:52] Riddell, Do you know how i can fix this problem ? [15:53] dextrex: you'd need to boot a live CD and edit the /etc/passwd file [15:53] When i maximize a Window, the titlebar is hidden :/ [15:53] Aristide: I'm afraid not, I haven't seen that issue [15:53] Riddell, Ok [15:54] so how do i do that? [15:55] boot live cd and reinstall?] [15:56] dextrex: boot a live CD, open file manager, mount the hard disk, as root edit /etc/passwd [16:10] hey guys im having issues upgrading from lucid to maverick [16:10] i installed the update-manager-core and ran do-release upgrade yet its saying no newer version O_o === gmargo_ is now known as mm3 [16:11] !upgrade [16:11] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade === nathanael is now known as natschil [16:14] c [16:14] hi [16:14] sorry that was an accident. [16:16] anyone have any idea why i cant upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 i am following the upgrade link yet it still tells me that there is no newer version [16:17] 'eagles0513875 you need to change your package kit software to not only select LTS versions [16:18] eagles0513875: You have the update manager set to only look for LTS releases. You need to change that if you want it to find the 10.10 upgrade. [16:18] 10.04 is the latest LTS [16:18] so it only works with with LTS upgrades? [16:18] No, it works with all upgrades. [16:18] You just have it set to only look for LTS releases. [16:18] no i dont this is a clean install of 10.04 [16:19] Exactly. That's the default setting. [16:19] how do i change that [16:19] In the config section of kpackagekit. === tarun is now known as Guest97414 === Guest97414 is now known as c2tarun [16:20] whoops [16:20] #that was staring me in the face on how to do that on command line lol === dan_____ is now known as poly === poly is now known as speechlessdan [16:42] Where is the file menu and such in Netboot? o.O [16:43] my docky doesn't seem to work [16:43] it runs but it disappears (I believe it crashed) after I right click on it [16:46] I'm silly >.> Thanks guys :D [16:57] what's up guys === chrischi is now known as natschil [16:59] i just switched to kubuntu from open suse and is there a way that kubuntu can ask for your password just the first time you use an application instead of everytime you use them [17:01] gobi42: Have you tried kwallet? [17:02] what do you mean do i have to add programs to it or something i mean i use it i login to it everytime i start up my session [17:03] If the app is aware of kwallet, you can store your password there. [17:04] so like the package manger so i don't have to enter my password everytime i download a new application [17:04] Not sure. Worth a try. === Anthraxium is now known as Anthraxium|Detac [17:05] thanks man i'll give it a shot === administrator is now known as Guest36214 === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === shadeslayer is now known as Guest62064 === Guest62064 is now known as shadeslayer_ === evilshadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer [19:43] Hi; just installed amarok 2.4.0 from ppa-backports, rebooted and now I have some problems with my sound setup [19:44] as I only installed amarok from backports, I am wondering if dist-upgrading every package was a better practice [19:44] does anyone have a clue? [19:45] IOW, after adding ppa-backports, what is best: apt-get install amarok or apt-get dist-upgrade? [19:46] lb_, which ppas, the kde upgrades? [19:46] BluesKaj: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main [19:47] hii [19:49] anybody here not idle currently? [19:49] just a quick question: where is the kubuntu netbook edition available? I found the wiki but nothing on it on the downloads page [19:49] hi [19:49] Scan > they're the same distro now [19:49] one of the most useful features of kubuntu, the "klipper" tool, does not start automatically anymore [19:49] how can I do? [19:49] just a different package [19:50] ralf_: so I just install the normal thing and then what? [19:50] alesan: I think starting it once from the command line made the trick for me [19:51] well [19:51] next you can change it in system settings [19:51] hold on i'm looking [19:51] and then how do you shutdown, with 'halt' from the command line of with the graphical shutdown? [19:51] ah yes [19:52] scan: next go to workspace behavior [19:52] lb_, that's a std backport , so std amarok install [19:52] next choose the third tab [19:52] 'workspace' [19:52] you can switch between the regular or the netbook desktop [19:52] BluesKaj: thanks, I will further debug what's going on then [19:53] ralf_: thanks a lot, will try it when it's done installing [19:53] lb_, check alsamixer for changes [19:53] scan > it used to be possible to uninstall the desktop not in use [19:53] for example sudo apt-get remove plasma-netbook [19:54] not anymore though [19:54] ralf_: for now I just hope the partition manager will not crash again [19:57] hello === roberto is now known as Guest20548 [19:58] i have some problem with my ubuntu enybody help me? [19:58] ralf_, what are you trying to remove ? [19:59] do you now what is right chanell to help me? [19:59] !ask |czesiu [19:59] czesiu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [20:00] @BluesKaj; nothing, I was explaining that it used to be possible to remove the plasma desktop package not in use [20:00] question though [20:00] oh god I clicked 'install' ten minutes ago and it is still loading from disk... [20:01] I have a huge interest in text to speech solutions [20:01] i have a couple of cepstral voices installed [20:01] they work great from the command line [20:02] but for example in kopete [20:02] i can redirect incoming/outgoing messages to a script [20:02] I'd like kopete use the voice to read incoming messages to me [20:03] some tomes i install something in synaptic i don't remember exacley what was but omething with mac X in name and now when i start ubuntu i see cross on the desktop and i don't have buttons on window to close minimalize or maxymalize i must go to desktop efekt and wnen i chose extra screan efect everything is ok but hwen i restart system i have this same problem [20:03] ralf_, ok ...a minor point , the @ won't highlight a nick on irc , the nick will highlight the line when included in a query or reply [20:04] czesiu, are you on ubuntu or kubuntu? [20:05] do enybody have some idea [20:05] ubuntu [20:05] what the difrents betwen ubuntu and kubuntu? [20:05] czesiu, join #ubuntu , they can help you there [20:06] kubuntu =kde desktop, ubuntu=gnome desktop [20:07] thx [20:07] ah well, obviously I cannot install kubuntu, it crashes all the time so I won't even see the dialog [20:08] scan, live-cd ? [20:08] live usb [20:08] whit one is better for biginer user [20:09] czesiu: I'd claim they're both about equal, but some say ubuntu is cleaner and closer to what people are used to (windows) [20:09] czesiu, one isn't better than the other for beginners , but ubuntu has more users and support [20:10] scan, kde has more of a windows 'look' to it IMO :) [20:11] BluesKaj: in my opinion, both try to be like apple, you know.. the cool os [20:11] i mean when did windows put the panels at the top as default [20:11] also I cannot give any objective opinion on kubuntu cos it won't install [20:11] BluesKaj: i honestly don't think the location of the apps menu is the biggest thing in the world [20:12] !alternate |scan [20:12] scan: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal [20:12] i understand when gnome is compared to osx for getting rid of options though [20:12] maybe not to an ubuntu user, scan [20:13] and maco [20:14] BluesKaj: Ubuntu user by heart, only looking for the right thing for my lappy [20:15] and the default cartooney 'look' in previous gnome desktops and icons ...dunno what's gonna happen next with gnome 3 /unity etc [20:16] scan, anyway have you considered the alternate install ? It might work for you. [20:16] BluesKaj: downloading, currently [20:17] BluesKaj: coulda thought of it myself, thanks [20:18] I used it the last time I did the clean install on my 6 yr old compaq amd64 desktop , because the live cd din't recognize some of the HW [20:21] scan, it's reminiscent of the older debian OS installs like lenny [20:21] BluesKaj: Who's lenny? [20:22] leny kravitz [20:22] Ummmmm.......Debian Lenny, a release.... [20:23] maybe I should just do gentoo [20:24] well debian lenny isn't so old , but itwas recently superceded by 'squeeze' aka 6.0 [20:25] scan, do you like hair shirts ? :) [20:25] BluesKaj: Pardon me? [20:27] scan, a friend once said , installing gentoo is like wearing a hair shirt [20:27] * BluesKaj feels the OT cops on his trail [20:28] BluesKaj: Naw, installing gentoo is like wasting 10 hours of compile time, then just switching back to ubuntu anyway [20:29] compiling is a pita , sometimes it has to be done but I avoid it as much as possible [20:30] BluesKaj: I always compile my own ghc, it is so much better house made [20:33] argh now the usb creator crashes! [20:33] I'll just leave it [20:34] * BluesKaj shrugs [20:39] thanks for your help, everyone [20:52] Hello. I'm new to KDE and I seem to be having problems with sound. When one application is playing something, another application is unable to use the sound. Is that normal? [20:53] That is not normal [20:55] what computer do you have? [20:55] Say Dragon Player is paused, watching a video on youtube is pointless, there's no sound. [20:55] Uhm... I built the machine, but it uses ASUS mobo and an AMD64 [20:55] the soundcard is VIA [20:55] using the built-in sound? [20:55] adek: I'm not sure what causes that, I've seen it happen [20:55] ralf_: yes [20:56] hmm [20:56] adek: have you tried using proprietary drivers? [20:56] might be a pulseaudio problem [20:56] so if you have both programs open [20:56] and one plays audio [20:56] ralf_: there's pulseaudio in KDE? I thought it's Phonon [20:57] not the same thing [20:57] oh [20:57] phonon is a Qt multimedia framework [20:57] there are no proprietary drivers [21:00] sounds like a driver issue [21:00] i have a windows machine kicking around, for ableton live [21:00] similar problem [21:00] i can have one audio producing app running [21:00] if i open a second one [21:01] the first one starts throwing up these weird kernel errors [21:01] wow [21:01] Here it happens only in KDE [21:01] well you can try and narrow it down [21:01] by running gnome or xfce [21:02] gnome one works fine [21:02] but that's not a solution [21:02] not really [21:03] :/ [21:04] what is KDE using for a sound daemon these days? I remember there were options like alsa and openss that sometimes had issues [21:05] yeah [21:05] might be worth a try [21:05] try installing the alsa-oss package [21:05] then prefixing your application with aoss [21:05] for example aoss amarok [21:05] should I remove anything before that? [21:06] not to my knowledge [21:06] i use this trick to get the cepstral voices working [21:10] hey if the package has an X in KPackageKit that means it's installed? [21:12] adek: usually it has a check in front of it. Which version of Kubuntu are you using? [21:12] 10.04.2 [21:12] 4.6 KDE [21:12] Yeah, i think that had an x on the right if it was installed [21:13] an arrow if it wasn't installed [21:13] hmmm, then I have some alsa stuff installed and some phonon [21:15] VIA VT1708S [21:15] this is the soundcard [21:15] can you bring up a terminal window and do 'which aoss' [21:16] nothing shows up [21:16] adek: the package you need then is alsa-oss [21:17] Ok, let me install it then. [21:17] Let's see. [21:17] if you can't find it in kpackage, then do 'sudo apt-get install alsa-oss' [21:18] Should I restart the system? [21:18] adek@home:~$ which aoss [21:18] /usr/bin/aoss [21:19] good, no need to restart , just try what ralf had mantioned [21:19] hello, how can i change my computer's name on my Kubuntu 10.04 netbook? [21:20] I have to precede every application with this??? [21:20] just for testing yes [21:20] george__: you should be able to change the name in the /etc/hostname file [21:21] oooh =0 [21:21] thanks ^^ [21:21] ur welcome [21:22] but I can't start firefox with aoss [21:22] lol [21:23] adek: if I remember correctly, if you right click on the volume taskbar icon, you can get to some config pages [21:23] ok that fixed it up, thanks achondria [21:23] ok, starting dragon player stole the sound from amarok [21:23] even with those commands in front [21:23] george__: awesome [21:24] adek: go into those config pages and see if you can select the alsa-oss sound daemon [21:24] adek: try running one program with aoss [21:24] the other as-is [21:25] there are no config pages here [21:25] just Kmix handbook [21:25] im a bit rusty, I'll go look at another pc [21:25] i don't the mixer will help [21:25] Sound drivers supported: ALSA + OSS + PulseAudio [21:25] Sound drivers used: ALSA [21:26] can I remove entire sound and install what gnome has? [21:26] don't know [21:27] i figure it'll be hacky [21:27] ralf_ what do you think? I've never run gnome [21:27] ah [21:27] can you please try the following [21:27] and report the result [21:27] close all audio programs [21:28] anything that may produce sound [21:28] next run one program with aoss [21:28] the other as is [21:28] for example [21:28] aoss firefox [21:28] amarok [21:28] ralf_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [21:31] ok just one second [21:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/573666/ [21:33] this is huge [21:33] no wait [21:33] if you run aoss firefox [21:33] just run amarok normally [21:34] firefox won't run with aoss [21:34] it doesn't start [21:34] hmm [21:34] I can try between dragon and amarok [21:34] ok [21:35] But which output do you need [21:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/573668/ [21:37] I remember I tried KDE on openSUSE and had the exact same problem. That's what stopped me from using KDE in the first place heheh. [21:39] when amarok is playing and I start dragon this is what I get [21:39] Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address. [21:39] IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon [21:40] adek: what happens if try aoss dragon AND aoss amarok? [21:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/573671/ [21:43] adek: was that killing everything and starting from over? [21:43] fresh start [21:43] adek: dayum [21:43] what? [21:44] what is taht? [21:44] that* [21:44] adek: it's being a pita [21:44] I don't understand :) [21:44] lol sry 'dayum' = damn [21:45] oh lol [21:45] ok, can't help it, KDE isn't meant to work on this computer I guess === DLange_ is now known as DLange [21:46] ok, so if you go into system settings, and select sound and video config... [21:46] brb [21:46] ok [21:47] well to be honest [21:47] when I started with ubuntu [21:47] I guess I'll have to go back to gnome, sound HAS TO WORK no matter what === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [21:47] the problems i experienced with kde very nearly put me off [21:47] but they're all fixed now [21:47] at least for me [21:48] and i really prefer KDE because it uses Qt [21:48] I have been developing in Qt for over a year now [21:48] what's so nice about QT? [21:48] oh, then that's a different reason [21:48] well apart from that [21:48] the funny thing is [21:49] that back when I used to run Windows [21:49] I think the apps in KDE and the way the windowing system works meets my needs better than anything else [21:49] I developed a program running on Litestep [21:50] which turned out to work in the same vein as plasma-desktop [21:50] I don't have anything else agains KDE, maybe that drag and drop but which is damn stupid and shouldn't get out to final release. [21:50] so what achondria says; it meets my needs better than the others [21:50] But sound ... [21:50] drag and drop bug* [21:50] adek: have you tried KDE 10.10? [21:50] try googling your motherboard [21:51] +sound +kde +via maybe [21:51] i m sry i meant kubuntu 10.10 [21:52] Uhm, I'm having too many problems with the kernel and video drivers on 10.10 [21:53] ralf, I'll have to read around, but I see others have the same problem [21:53] It may just be a poorly supported mobo for kubuntu [21:53] Thanks guys for your input. [21:53] It's really appreciated [21:53] Great effort. [21:53] glad to brainstorm with you [21:53] Can't get this on arch channels lol [21:55] for what it's worth [21:55] my old custom built machine [21:55] with asus mobo === eneko is now known as urnieta_28 [21:56] has it's onboard sound disabled in the bios [21:56] and an audigy 2 zs card plugged in [21:56] with the kX open drivers [21:57] this might not help you maybe [21:58] !enter [21:58] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [22:17] ralf_: Uhm, I have an old soundblaster, but this built in is far better lol [22:19] what does phonon do? [22:21] hi, I have this strange problem, when my laptop goes to standby I can't do anything it's just black screen [22:23] anyone? === tchangang is now known as TTA [22:38] Hi ! [22:38] I have a problem about kde's effect [22:39] I must enable this feature manually [22:39] He don't want to be enabled for ever [22:39] I search a solution for fix this problem since two days [22:40] no stop [22:42] salut [22:42] Hi anas [22:42] Please speak english here :) [22:42] ah ok [22:42] sorry [22:43] please i wonder about a command which can restore Ubuntu [22:43] it exists ?? [22:45] can u help me please [22:45] I don't know sorry anas [22:45] :( [22:46] because i install the pachage of KDE and Ubuntu became less faster :( :( [22:46] anas: define "restore".... there is no one command to completely reset kubuntu to a fresh installed state... except reintalling it :p [22:46] i haven't the CD now [22:46] :D [22:46] !puregnome [22:46] If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome [22:47] that's why i serch for immediat solution :D :p [22:47] thank you ubottu [22:47] !ubottu [22:47] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [22:48] during the installation of my ubuntu 10.10 when i select the language the screen displays :Ubi-language failed with exit code 2. further information maybe found in/var/log/syslog. And when i click on"try again" the message comes again.what do i have to now?please [22:48] TTA: see #ubuntu for help with ubuntu [22:49] dont tell me that ubotto is a robot :D [22:49] anas: well she doesnt have a body... [22:49] but she is just software === nosrepa is now known as aperson [22:50] hhhh i understand :p [22:50] i didn't pay attention that's the story :) === mren is now known as mren|off === nosrepa is now known as aperson [23:08] !netsplit === kozz_ is now known as kozz === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey [23:08] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [23:12] When I try to eject a disc, it sayys it is busy. How to I detect what is using the DVD disc? [23:20] sudo lsof | grep /dev/sr0 ........ return nothing [23:20] hello [23:21] i have some issue on kde 4 : rebd [23:21] i have some issue on kde 4 : render issue on firefox and kopete === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [23:24] now i'm on kde 4.6 but it also happened on kde 4.5 ( i have intel graphics card ) [23:25] any hint ? [23:25] it is linked with kwin because only when i activate the effects happens [23:29] >< [23:29] Hi ^^' [23:29] The "dialog effect" of compiz is apply to "openoffice's" and "libreoffice's" menus [23:29] But a zoom effect for 1s is not fun on menu ... [23:30] But on context menu on desktop, the menu has a fade effect [23:30] How use a fad effect on ooo's menu ? [23:30] *menus [23:30] there is a way to restore kubuntu back to its default settings and restoring the desktop and getting rid of the login names and such, witout reintslling the system, but i cant remember the nomenclature. what words do i need to use to look up restoring kubuntu without reinstalling? (i hope that made sense) === smooph1 is now known as smooph === tchangang is now known as tta