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Jef91Does Lubuntu have their own forums?00:03
Jef91The LXDE forums have very little activity it seems :(00:03
bassogood question00:05
bassoeven i dont know! :P00:05
Jef91:-/00:05
Jef91I posted on the Ubuntu boards but no hits there after a few hours either00:05
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jmarsdenJef91|Away: PhillW has an Lubuntu forum on his setup, see http://forum.phillw.net/viewforum.php?f=18&sid=36697cfeb56d5228b3b4635c8fcc869001:17
Jef91|AwayDoes PCManFM have a search function built in04:09
Jef91|Away?04:09
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linuxx4hi everybody04:48
wolfpackhi linuxx405:07
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szhDoes Lubuntu have a built in remote desktop server?13:40
szhlike regular Ubuntu does?13:40
bioterrornope13:43
szhSo what's the best one to use?13:43
szhI only need to access it from the local network13:43
bioterrorit depends? :D13:43
szhI want one compatible with the one built in to the main Ubuntu13:44
szhso I can connect to it from my computers with the main Ubuntu version13:44
bioterrorI've been using ssh -X if have needed something13:44
szczurszh, vinagre is shipped with ubuntu13:45
szhszczur: can I install that on Lubuntu?13:45
bioterrorbut I cant imagine any tasks that would require remote desktop13:45
bioterrorszh, ofcourse you can13:45
szczurwithout problems13:46
szhcool! apt-get install vinagre?13:46
szczuryup13:46
szhGreat!13:47
szczursudo apt-get if you're not root13:47
szhright13:47
szhIt seems like vinagre is the client. What server does the main Ubuntu come with?13:51
szhOkay, I figured it out.13:51
szhIt comes with vino13:52
szhfor the server13:52
szhThanks for the help13:52
wolfpackI am not able to report bugs through apport. I am working under http proxy. i have set my http enviroment variables correctly. I get connection time out. In ubuntu, its working fine for me. Is there a way to solve this issue?14:39
rtdosi have a blank grub prompt when i boot my pc: how do i either repair grub from this prompt (minimal bash-like shell) or reinstall grub from the cd?14:41
bioterrorrtdos, usually it says something14:49
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leszekhi16:25
red_hello leszek16:31
red_was geht?16:31
leszekhallo red_ :)16:32
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satellitehi17:36
stlsainthi17:37
pip__where's my root terminal gone?  I've only just noticed it isn't there anymore17:51
pip__not that it matters mind you17:51
stlsaintroot terminal?17:56
pip__yup, like what one gets with debian, i had one before alpha 2.  Oh yeah I am using natty alphas18:02
satellitemy facebook say that i need flash in  my cromium what can i do? use the synaptic mannager? to download what plugin or to download direct from the web page? and wich extencion  isrpm better ? apt or dev or rpm or yum or tar.gz?18:03
satelliteim using lubuntu 1018:03
pip__it was in the accessories list.  Perhaps it was in alpha 1 because people more advanced than I would do lots of stuff as root18:04
pip__That should have installed while the install was happening. if you chose the option to install 3rd party software18:04
pip__lots of 'install' inthat really18:05
pip__satellite: if you checked the 3rd party software option while you were installing flash should be up & running18:06
pip__10.10 or 10.04?18:07
satellite101018:07
satelliteand i click the 3rd party option18:07
pip__weird, it worked for me.  I dont know enough to be of any more use I'm afraid18:07
satellitei try to use the city of wonders of facebook and that is the problem18:08
pip__haha I dont even know what that is :)18:08
pip__flash is available in synaptic18:09
pip__or....lubuntu restricted extras may work18:10
pip__again in synaptic18:10
pip__and that is about the limit of my knowledge.  I've broken my system soooooooooooo many times it's not funny any more18:11
satelliteok tnks18:12
pip__no probs mate18:13
satellitebut if i want to install latter a newer version18:13
satellitewhat is the best way?18:13
pip__flash or lubuntu?18:13
satellitewha tis the best way to install a new flash player?18:13
pip__got me there, I don't know.  I've never had to.18:14
pip__I'm not even sure if it is covered in the updates18:14
pip__I think you can activate updates in the repositories, which again is in synaptic18:14
pip__I'm just installing something then I'll check where you can activate repos18:17
pip__back in 5 mins18:20
pip__settings - repositories - other software18:26
leszekre18:34
pip__& I'dadd canonicalpartners & hopefor the best18:48
pip__satellite: good luck. I gotta go, but someone here will be able to help you more than me anyway :)18:49
satellitepip__,  tnks man18:50
satellitepip__,  see you later18:50
pip__no probs dude18:50
pip__laters18:50
satellitepip__,  im installing all the updates18:50
bioterrorgilir, you here18:55
gilirbioterror, yes ?18:57
bioterrorgilir, did you notice the email conversation from yesterday evening?18:57
gilirbioterror, about what ?18:58
bioterrorhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/bioterror if you click my email address, it will open a new browser window (atleast when using Chromium)18:58
bioterrorit will call /usr/bin/xdg-email which has in "generic" following parameters 'sensible-browser "$1"'19:00
bioterroryou can replace sensible-browser with "sylpheed --compose", but it wont work if you install thunderbird and you remove sylpheed19:01
gilirbioterror, to be right, it should check if it's in LXDE desktop, and search for the default mail client set by "Prefered application"19:02
bioterrorpreferred application is uses libfm-pref-apps and it calls for sylpheed.desktop19:03
bioterrorand it wont use "--compose"19:03
bioterror(I tested with abiword ;)19:03
gilirhum, so it probably needs another fix for libfm-pref-apps, it makes sense to launch email client with --compose by default :)19:04
bioterrorI spent few moments digging this issue19:04
bioterrorand this email thing is kinda critical19:05
gilirsee also the bug reported upstream for xdg-* : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2605819:05
ubot5Freedesktop bug 26058 in xdg-utils "add lxde support to xdg-utils" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]19:05
bioterrorthat's some progress19:06
giliralso, libfm-pref-apps is broken in Natty :-/19:06
psymolehi im trying to install lubuntu 10.10 on compaq evo n160 but i get no internet connection any ideas?19:21
bioterrorwlan or ethernet19:23
psymoleethernet19:23
bioterrordo you see your nic when you say "ifconfig" in terminal, without ""19:23
psymolei dont have any use wlan on such an old laptop19:24
psymolebioterror: ifconfig gives link encap: local loop back19:39
bioterrordo it give you "eth0"?19:40
psymoleinet addr: 127.0.0.1 mask: 255.0.0.019:40
bioterrorsudo dhclient eth019:40
psymoleNO it doesnt19:40
bioterrorreally19:41
bioterrorhmmm19:41
psymoledhclient eth= says no such device19:42
bioterrorniiiice19:42
bioterrorjust a moment19:42
psymolemaybe its something i need to install?19:42
bioterrorḮ'll ssh to my wife's laptop19:42
bioterrorpsymole, in terminal "lspci |grep Network"19:43
bioterrordoes it reply something like this: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16)19:45
psymoleIt doesnt return anything19:46
psymolebioterror, It doesnt return anything19:47
bioterrorniiice19:48
bioterrorproblem is: your ethernet card is not found by the OS19:48
psymolebioterror, how can i fix it ?19:51
bioterrorgood question19:52
bioterrorwhat would szczur do19:53
psymoleanything I can download from another machine and install on the evo n16019:53
bioterrorhmm19:55
bioterrorit should have eepro10019:55
bioterrorhttp://julien.mary.free.fr/linux/evon160/19:57
psymolehow do i install the drivers for eepro10019:59
bioterrormodprobe eepro10020:01
bioterroror modprobe e10020:01
bioterrorsudo modprobe20:01
bioterrorthose modules should be loaded by default20:01
psymolebioterror, modprobe eepro100 returns module not found20:07
psymolemodprobe e100 returns nothing20:07
bioterrorhmm20:08
bioterrorif e100 says nothing20:08
padgeI'm having trouble with samba, smbclient, smbmount, etc.  I've followed the walkthrough linked from the main page, but it doesn't go down like that for me20:08
bioterrorcan you now see eth0 in ifconfig20:08
bioterrorpadge, explain more20:08
psymolenope20:08
padgeWhen I try to mount a remote location, It just says something to the effect of the host not being found20:08
padgeAlso, I don't fully understand the problem myself20:09
padgeI don20:09
padgeI don't know what all packages I need to make this technology work.  I'd like to be able to mount SMB shares as locations.20:09
padgeSomething about CIFS replacing SMBFS?20:10
bioterrorpadge, sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends20:10
bioterrorpadge, close pcmanfm and open it again20:11
padgeIf I close all visible instances is it done or do I need to go killing?20:11
bioterrorpsymole, what does command "uname -a" return to you20:11
bioterrorpadge, just close it20:12
psymolemy kernel is 2.6.35-22-generic its i686 pc20:13
psymolebioterror, my kernel is 2.6.35-22-generic its i686 pc20:13
padgeOkay, so now pcmanfm takes smb:// locations, but I still get an error when I try to go anywhere20:14
padgebioterror, What is gvfs-backends, and what else should I have to do?   Should I have to go mounting locations manually, and writing up some script or is there an easier way?20:15
bioterrorpadge, apt-cache show gvfs-backends20:16
bioterrorpsymole, can you say "sudo lshw -C network"20:16
psymoleIt returns network Unclaimed / decription: ethernet controler / product: 82801 CAM (ICH3) pro /100 VE (LOM) ethernet controler / vendor: Intel corporation20:20
padgebioterror, gvfs-backends looks like a very helpful package.  Now that it's installed, is there something special I should have to do?20:20
psymolebioterror, It returns network Unclaimed / decription: ethernet controler / product: 82801 CAM (ICH3) pro /100 VE (LOM) ethernet controler / vendor: Intel corporation20:20
bioterrorpadge, nothing really, I think20:20
bioterrorpsymole, so it is found afterl all20:21
psymolebioterror it seems so, but I still get no internet goodness20:21
szczurpsymole, dmesg | grep e10020:21
padgebioterror, How do I browse to a remote location with pcmanfm, then?20:21
bioterrorpadge, from menu -> network places20:22
bioterroror what was it20:22
bioterrorI'm not on my lubuntu20:22
bioterrorszczur, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf20:22
bioterror# replaced by e10020:22
bioterrorblacklist eepro10020:22
padgebioterror, Go -> Network Drives.  That's the stuff!  Thanks a bunch, bio!  I really appreciate the help.20:23
bioterrorpadge, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ read that, might find something useful20:23
bioterrorpsymole, Mon22:21 <szczur> psymole, dmesg | grep e10020:25
bioterrorred_, what are you doing?20:28
psymolebioterror, I have those lines # replaced by e100 / blacklist eepro10020:29
bioterrorpsymole, we are just chatting wif szczur20:29
bioterrorpsymole, we are interested in dmesg |grep e10020:29
stlsaintbioterror: i will see to that task sometime tomorrow hopefully20:32
stlsaintl8er folks20:32
bioterrorstrycore, okay20:32
bioterrorahh, he was too fast20:33
mark76Hey bio. Have you ever got autologin working with lxdm?20:33
szczurheh, i thought strycor(e) is stlsaint's bot :)20:33
bioterrormark76, look the faq ;)20:34
mark76NO, I asked you if you'd got it working20:34
bioterrorseems like we've got it working couple of times :D20:34
mark76Because I sure as hell can't20:35
bioterrorwhy not?20:35
mark76Hang on20:35
psymoleok that its as follow20:35
mark76You have to edit /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf, right?20:36
bioterrorshould be default.conf20:36
psymolebioterror: PCI 0000:02:08.0: firmware left e100 interrupts enabled, disabling20:36
bioterrorszczur :D20:37
mark76Okay. I've edited that20:37
padgebioterror, so I've been distracted into a document on D-Bus20:37
mark76Let me reboot and see if it helped20:38
psymolebioterror: e100 Intel PRO/100 network driver 3.5.24-k2-Napi20:38
padgebioterror, D-Bus is where the magic happens when it comes to polling for new drives, and USB devices, and anything else that can be added or removed from the system hot?20:38
padgebioterror, And by punctuating a declaration with a question mark, I guess I just mean to 'assert' that.20:39
psymolebioterror: e100 0000:02:08.0: PCI INT A -» LINK [LNKE] -» GSI 9 (level, low) -» IRQ920:40
bioterrorpsymole, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf20:40
bioterrorreplace the eepro100 with e10020:40
bioterrorand "sudo reboot"20:40
bioterrorpsymole, sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf20:40
bioterrorhope it works20:41
psymolebioterror: will do, thx20:41
red_bio; how do i find and then start amarok (the ipod/iphone application)20:43
red_ive installed it via apt-get but now i can't find it20:43
bioterrorreally20:43
bioterroramarok is a kde music player?20:43
bioterrorI think there's non-kde tools for tat20:44
bioterrorthat20:44
red_is that a problem if i run kde app on lxde?20:45
red_yes, amarok is a kde music player from kubuntu20:45
bioterrorrather gnome than kde20:45
padgeI think the point is to avoid kde and gnome apps, because they require (enfatten from) stuff.20:45
red_i c20:45
bioterroras you have already some gnome deps20:45
padgeerr, I was gonna ask about that20:46
bioterrormark76, didnt work?20:46
bioterrortook so long :D20:46
red_so apps, designed for certain DE, do not (necesarily) work in one's DE?20:46
psymolebioterror, that didnt work I still have no internet, if I dmesg | grep e100 still gives the same result20:46
bioterrorred_, ofcourse they work20:46
bioterrorpsymole, hmmm20:46
padgered_, in my experience, mostly they work.20:46
mark76Nope. It doesn't work and I'm not going to even bother trying20:47
padgebioterror, Can you have a full KDE and full gnome environment running off the same window server?20:47
bioterrorproblem is that your amarok does not come with /usr/share/applications/amarok.desktop, I assume20:47
bioterrorshould I stop listening to music and maybe play with lubuntu20:48
bioterroras the you're all demanding something regarding it :d20:48
bioterrorpsymole, I'm really wondering now what to do20:48
red_install psybnc :)20:49
red_this is how i joke around in lubuntu20:50
padgebioterror, The OS invited us to come here for help, and you sound like you know what you're talking about ;D20:50
red_i give myself some simple task20:50
red_and see if i can do it20:50
szczurpsymole, what dmesg | grep -i EEPROM gives?20:50
bioterrorred_, my nokia phone can be mounted as a regular usb storage and I can just copy my files on it ;)20:53
psymoleszczur: e100 0000:02:08.0: (unregiterd net_device) EEPROM corrupted20:54
bioterrorhahahaha20:54
bioterrorthere we have it20:54
szczurHA!20:54
szczuri knew it20:54
bioterror:D20:54
bioterrorhaha20:54
bioterrorpsymole, reverse the editing20:54
bioterrorfor the eeprom100 -> e10020:55
bioterrorand reboot20:55
bioterrorthen szczur will give you one command20:55
szczursudo bash -c ‘echo “options e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1″ >> /etc/modprobe.d/options’20:55
bioterrorthoho20:55
szczuror you can use http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19186&lang=eng&wapkw=%28ibautil%2920:56
szczurburn it to some kind of bootable DOS cd20:57
szczurpsymole, http://pastebin.com/Tcf0V2jk20:58
szczurthere's a talk about similar problem20:58
bioterror:D21:02
bioterrordidnt see nothing at all, I think21:02
szczurwhere?21:03
bioterrorhere21:05
padgebioterror, I still have some trouble, something about a D-Bus error when I try to browse some existing locations on my network21:56
bioterrorhmmm21:56
padgebioterror, When I try to browse into my computer over the network drives thing, I first get a D-Bus error message saying:21:57
padgeorg.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)21:57
padgethen I'm assuming pcmanfm comes back with error "The specified location is not mounted."21:58
padge(presumably because of the previous failure)21:58
padgeman, here's the kicker: Only when I choose to save my credentials when I am asked to authenticate21:59
bioterrormine didnt complain anything22:02
padgeI did a lot of boogering around trying to get this to work.  I think I'll try a fresh install, then just get the one package I know I need22:03
padgejust gvfs-backends, right?22:04
bioterroryeah I have only it installed22:04
padgealright, I'll bbl: let you know how it goes22:05
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bioterrorwe never heard anything from psymole22:12
szczuryeah, don't know if it is good sign22:15
szczuror he gave up trying22:15
bioterrorpsymole, does it work now?22:28
psymolebioterror, no sadly it didnt work and just after trying that the internet went out and i Had to leave that pc at work, I wanted to donate that machine to a non profit children education org near my qork place so i will give it another run tommorow22:31
psymole* my work place22:32
bioterroryou tried that22:32
bioterrorsudo bash -c ‘echo “options e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1″ >> /etc/modprobe.d/options’22:32
psymoleYes I did That the rebooted, by the time I got back to the desktop I was having internet problems at the office so I couldnt write you back, Even with the internet issues I dont think that it worked because the icons near the clock still showed only the options to configure a VPN22:35
psymole*the rebooted22:35
bioterrorokay22:35
bioterrorrecycle that old laptop then :D22:35
chalkartisthi all22:35
red_g'nite c ya tommorw22:36
chalkartistdon't know if any devs are in here... just wanted to say 'good job' on the distro...22:37
psymolebioterror: I'll try again tomorrow, and I'll be arround here to keep bugging you for help : )22:37
chalkartistused xubuntu a lot... this boots in like 35s (dell c610, pIII 1000mHz 512ram)22:37
bioterrorgilir, you got positive feedback ;)22:38
chalkartistgilir: u are one of the devs? or THE DEV?22:42
chalkartistlol22:42
chalkartistI don't think when I had xubuntu on this laptop that it booted as quickly... think it was like 1m 20s....22:43
* chalkartist is a fan of 'minimal' distros....22:44
chalkartistrunning 10.10 btw22:44
gilirthanks chalkartist :) I'm only one dev, just more focused on LXDE/Lubuntu :)22:50
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chalkartistgilir: I am enjoying it... helps that I have more time under my belt than when I started with xub.... flash, ndiswrapper, etc... already learned...22:56
chalkartistwe're getting a strong t-storm here... gonna shut my stuff down...22:57
chalkartisttake care all...22:57
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padgeNo good :/23:39
padgeI found gvfs-backends and gvfs-bin (or something) in Synaptic Package Manager and added them.23:39
padgeFresh install of lubuntu 10.1023:40
padgeTo get a list of shares on a host, I have to authenticate and forget23:40
padgeto use a share, I have to authenticate and forget.  Once I'm in the share, I'm good, though.23:40
padgeIf I choose either option to remember my credentials (session or forever) I get that series of errors :/23:41
padgeHello?  Do I have to be identified to speak here?23:44

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