[00:03] <Jef91> Does Lubuntu have their own forums?
[00:03] <Jef91> The LXDE forums have very little activity it seems :(
[00:05] <basso> good question
[00:05] <basso> even i dont know! :P
[00:05] <Jef91> :-/
[00:05] <Jef91> I posted on the Ubuntu boards but no hits there after a few hours either
[01:17] <jmarsden> Jef91|Away: PhillW has an Lubuntu forum on his setup, see http://forum.phillw.net/viewforum.php?f=18&sid=36697cfeb56d5228b3b4635c8fcc8690
[04:09] <Jef91|Away> Does PCManFM have a search function built in
[04:09] <Jef91|Away> ?
[04:48] <linuxx4> hi everybody
[05:07] <wolfpack> hi linuxx4
[13:40] <szh> Does Lubuntu have a built in remote desktop server?
[13:40] <szh> like regular Ubuntu does?
[13:43] <bioterror> nope
[13:43] <szh> So what's the best one to use?
[13:43] <szh> I only need to access it from the local network
[13:43] <bioterror> it depends? :D
[13:44] <szh> I want one compatible with the one built in to the main Ubuntu
[13:44] <szh> so I can connect to it from my computers with the main Ubuntu version
[13:44] <bioterror> I've been using ssh -X if have needed something
[13:45] <szczur> szh, vinagre is shipped with ubuntu
[13:45] <szh> szczur: can I install that on Lubuntu?
[13:45] <bioterror> but I cant imagine any tasks that would require remote desktop
[13:45] <bioterror> szh, ofcourse you can
[13:46] <szczur> without problems
[13:46] <szh> cool! apt-get install vinagre?
[13:46] <szczur> yup
[13:47] <szh> Great!
[13:47] <szczur> sudo apt-get if you're not root
[13:47] <szh> right
[13:51] <szh> It seems like vinagre is the client. What server does the main Ubuntu come with?
[13:51] <szh> Okay, I figured it out.
[13:52] <szh> It comes with vino
[13:52] <szh> for the server
[13:52] <szh> Thanks for the help
[14:39] <wolfpack> I am not able to report bugs through apport. I am working under http proxy. i have set my http enviroment variables correctly. I get connection time out. In ubuntu, its working fine for me. Is there a way to solve this issue?
[14:41] <rtdos> i have a blank grub prompt when i boot my pc: how do i either repair grub from this prompt (minimal bash-like shell) or reinstall grub from the cd?
[14:49] <bioterror> rtdos, usually it says something
[16:25] <leszek> hi
[16:31] <red_> hello leszek
[16:31] <red_> was geht?
[16:32] <leszek> hallo red_ :)
[17:36] <satellite> hi
[17:37] <stlsaint> hi
[17:51] <pip__> where's my root terminal gone?  I've only just noticed it isn't there anymore
[17:51] <pip__> not that it matters mind you
[17:56] <stlsaint> root terminal?
[18:02] <pip__> yup, like what one gets with debian, i had one before alpha 2.  Oh yeah I am using natty alphas
[18:03] <satellite> my facebook say that i need flash in  my cromium what can i do? use the synaptic mannager? to download what plugin or to download direct from the web page? and wich extencion  isrpm better ? apt or dev or rpm or yum or tar.gz?
[18:03] <satellite> im using lubuntu 10
[18:04] <pip__> it was in the accessories list.  Perhaps it was in alpha 1 because people more advanced than I would do lots of stuff as root
[18:04] <pip__> That should have installed while the install was happening. if you chose the option to install 3rd party software
[18:05] <pip__> lots of 'install' inthat really
[18:06] <pip__> satellite: if you checked the 3rd party software option while you were installing flash should be up & running
[18:07] <pip__> 10.10 or 10.04?
[18:07] <satellite> 1010
[18:07] <satellite> and i click the 3rd party option
[18:07] <pip__> weird, it worked for me.  I dont know enough to be of any more use I'm afraid
[18:08] <satellite> i try to use the city of wonders of facebook and that is the problem
[18:08] <pip__> haha I dont even know what that is :)
[18:09] <pip__> flash is available in synaptic
[18:10] <pip__> or....lubuntu restricted extras may work
[18:10] <pip__> again in synaptic
[18:11] <pip__> and that is about the limit of my knowledge.  I've broken my system soooooooooooo many times it's not funny any more
[18:12] <satellite> ok tnks
[18:13] <pip__> no probs mate
[18:13] <satellite> but if i want to install latter a newer version
[18:13] <satellite> what is the best way?
[18:13] <pip__> flash or lubuntu?
[18:13] <satellite> wha tis the best way to install a new flash player?
[18:14] <pip__> got me there, I don't know.  I've never had to.
[18:14] <pip__> I'm not even sure if it is covered in the updates
[18:14] <pip__> I think you can activate updates in the repositories, which again is in synaptic
[18:17] <pip__> I'm just installing something then I'll check where you can activate repos
[18:20] <pip__> back in 5 mins
[18:26] <pip__> settings - repositories - other software
[18:34] <leszek> re
[18:48] <pip__> & I'dadd canonicalpartners & hopefor the best
[18:49] <pip__> satellite: good luck. I gotta go, but someone here will be able to help you more than me anyway :)
[18:50] <satellite> pip__,  tnks man
[18:50] <satellite> pip__,  see you later
[18:50] <pip__> no probs dude
[18:50] <pip__> laters
[18:50] <satellite> pip__,  im installing all the updates
[18:55] <bioterror> gilir, you here
[18:57] <gilir> bioterror, yes ?
[18:57] <bioterror> gilir, did you notice the email conversation from yesterday evening?
[18:58] <gilir> bioterror, about what ?
[18:58] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bioterror if you click my email address, it will open a new browser window (atleast when using Chromium)
[19:00] <bioterror> it will call /usr/bin/xdg-email which has in "generic" following parameters 'sensible-browser "$1"'
[19:01] <bioterror> you can replace sensible-browser with "sylpheed --compose", but it wont work if you install thunderbird and you remove sylpheed
[19:02] <gilir> bioterror, to be right, it should check if it's in LXDE desktop, and search for the default mail client set by "Prefered application"
[19:03] <bioterror> preferred application is uses libfm-pref-apps and it calls for sylpheed.desktop
[19:03] <bioterror> and it wont use "--compose"
[19:03] <bioterror> (I tested with abiword ;)
[19:04] <gilir> hum, so it probably needs another fix for libfm-pref-apps, it makes sense to launch email client with --compose by default :)
[19:04] <bioterror> I spent few moments digging this issue
[19:05] <bioterror> and this email thing is kinda critical
[19:05] <gilir> see also the bug reported upstream for xdg-* : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26058
[19:06] <bioterror> that's some progress
[19:06] <gilir> also, libfm-pref-apps is broken in Natty :-/
[19:21] <psymole> hi im trying to install lubuntu 10.10 on compaq evo n160 but i get no internet connection any ideas?
[19:23] <bioterror> wlan or ethernet
[19:23] <psymole> ethernet
[19:23] <bioterror> do you see your nic when you say "ifconfig" in terminal, without ""
[19:24] <psymole> i dont have any use wlan on such an old laptop
[19:39] <psymole> bioterror: ifconfig gives link encap: local loop back
[19:40] <bioterror> do it give you "eth0"?
[19:40] <psymole> inet addr: 127.0.0.1 mask: 255.0.0.0
[19:40] <bioterror> sudo dhclient eth0
[19:40] <psymole> NO it doesnt
[19:41] <bioterror> really
[19:41] <bioterror> hmmm
[19:42] <psymole> dhclient eth= says no such device
[19:42] <bioterror> niiiice
[19:42] <bioterror> just a moment
[19:42] <psymole> maybe its something i need to install?
[19:42] <bioterror> Ḯ'll ssh to my wife's laptop
[19:43] <bioterror> psymole, in terminal "lspci |grep Network"
[19:45] <bioterror> does it reply something like this: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16)
[19:46] <psymole> It doesnt return anything
[19:47] <psymole> bioterror, It doesnt return anything
[19:48] <bioterror> niiice
[19:48] <bioterror> problem is: your ethernet card is not found by the OS
[19:51] <psymole> bioterror, how can i fix it ?
[19:52] <bioterror> good question
[19:53] <bioterror> what would szczur do
[19:53] <psymole> anything I can download from another machine and install on the evo n160
[19:55] <bioterror> hmm
[19:55] <bioterror> it should have eepro100
[19:57] <bioterror> http://julien.mary.free.fr/linux/evon160/
[19:59] <psymole> how do i install the drivers for eepro100
[20:01] <bioterror> modprobe eepro100
[20:01] <bioterror> or modprobe e100
[20:01] <bioterror> sudo modprobe
[20:01] <bioterror> those modules should be loaded by default
[20:07] <psymole> bioterror, modprobe eepro100 returns module not found
[20:07] <psymole> modprobe e100 returns nothing
[20:08] <bioterror> hmm
[20:08] <bioterror> if e100 says nothing
[20:08] <padge> I'm having trouble with samba, smbclient, smbmount, etc.  I've followed the walkthrough linked from the main page, but it doesn't go down like that for me
[20:08] <bioterror> can you now see eth0 in ifconfig
[20:08] <bioterror> padge, explain more
[20:08] <psymole> nope
[20:08] <padge> When I try to mount a remote location, It just says something to the effect of the host not being found
[20:09] <padge> Also, I don't fully understand the problem myself
[20:09] <padge> I don
[20:09] <padge> I don't know what all packages I need to make this technology work.  I'd like to be able to mount SMB shares as locations.
[20:10] <padge> Something about CIFS replacing SMBFS?
[20:10] <bioterror> padge, sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends
[20:11] <bioterror> padge, close pcmanfm and open it again
[20:11] <padge> If I close all visible instances is it done or do I need to go killing?
[20:11] <bioterror> psymole, what does command "uname -a" return to you
[20:12] <bioterror> padge, just close it
[20:13] <psymole> my kernel is 2.6.35-22-generic its i686 pc
[20:13] <psymole> bioterror, my kernel is 2.6.35-22-generic its i686 pc
[20:14] <padge> Okay, so now pcmanfm takes smb:// locations, but I still get an error when I try to go anywhere
[20:15] <padge> bioterror, What is gvfs-backends, and what else should I have to do?   Should I have to go mounting locations manually, and writing up some script or is there an easier way?
[20:16] <bioterror> padge, apt-cache show gvfs-backends
[20:16] <bioterror> psymole, can you say "sudo lshw -C network"
[20:20] <psymole> It returns network Unclaimed / decription: ethernet controler / product: 82801 CAM (ICH3) pro /100 VE (LOM) ethernet controler / vendor: Intel corporation
[20:20] <padge> bioterror, gvfs-backends looks like a very helpful package.  Now that it's installed, is there something special I should have to do?
[20:20] <psymole> bioterror, It returns network Unclaimed / decription: ethernet controler / product: 82801 CAM (ICH3) pro /100 VE (LOM) ethernet controler / vendor: Intel corporation
[20:20] <bioterror> padge, nothing really, I think
[20:21] <bioterror> psymole, so it is found afterl all
[20:21] <psymole> bioterror it seems so, but I still get no internet goodness
[20:21] <szczur> psymole, dmesg | grep e100
[20:21] <padge> bioterror, How do I browse to a remote location with pcmanfm, then?
[20:22] <bioterror> padge, from menu -> network places
[20:22] <bioterror> or what was it
[20:22] <bioterror> I'm not on my lubuntu
[20:22] <bioterror> szczur, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:22] <bioterror> # replaced by e100
[20:22] <bioterror> blacklist eepro100
[20:23] <padge> bioterror, Go -> Network Drives.  That's the stuff!  Thanks a bunch, bio!  I really appreciate the help.
[20:23] <bioterror> padge, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ read that, might find something useful
[20:25] <bioterror> psymole, Mon22:21 <szczur> psymole, dmesg | grep e100
[20:28] <bioterror> red_, what are you doing?
[20:29] <psymole> bioterror, I have those lines # replaced by e100 / blacklist eepro100
[20:29] <bioterror> psymole, we are just chatting wif szczur
[20:29] <bioterror> psymole, we are interested in dmesg |grep e100
[20:32] <stlsaint> bioterror: i will see to that task sometime tomorrow hopefully
[20:32] <stlsaint> l8er folks
[20:32] <bioterror> strycore, okay
[20:33] <bioterror> ahh, he was too fast
[20:33] <mark76> Hey bio. Have you ever got autologin working with lxdm?
[20:33] <szczur> heh, i thought strycor(e) is stlsaint's bot :)
[20:34] <bioterror> mark76, look the faq ;)
[20:34] <mark76> NO, I asked you if you'd got it working
[20:34] <bioterror> seems like we've got it working couple of times :D
[20:35] <mark76> Because I sure as hell can't
[20:35] <bioterror> why not?
[20:35] <mark76> Hang on
[20:35] <psymole> ok that its as follow
[20:36] <mark76> You have to edit /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf, right?
[20:36] <bioterror> should be default.conf
[20:36] <psymole> bioterror: PCI 0000:02:08.0: firmware left e100 interrupts enabled, disabling
[20:37] <bioterror> szczur :D
[20:37] <mark76> Okay. I've edited that
[20:37] <padge> bioterror, so I've been distracted into a document on D-Bus
[20:38] <mark76> Let me reboot and see if it helped
[20:38] <psymole> bioterror: e100 Intel PRO/100 network driver 3.5.24-k2-Napi
[20:38] <padge> bioterror, D-Bus is where the magic happens when it comes to polling for new drives, and USB devices, and anything else that can be added or removed from the system hot?
[20:39] <padge> bioterror, And by punctuating a declaration with a question mark, I guess I just mean to 'assert' that.
[20:40] <psymole> bioterror: e100 0000:02:08.0: PCI INT A -» LINK [LNKE] -» GSI 9 (level, low) -» IRQ9
[20:40] <bioterror> psymole, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:40] <bioterror> replace the eepro100 with e100
[20:40] <bioterror> and "sudo reboot"
[20:40] <bioterror> psymole, sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:41] <bioterror> hope it works
[20:41] <psymole> bioterror: will do, thx
[20:43] <red_> bio; how do i find and then start amarok (the ipod/iphone application)
[20:43] <red_> ive installed it via apt-get but now i can't find it
[20:43] <bioterror> really
[20:43] <bioterror> amarok is a kde music player?
[20:44] <bioterror> I think there's non-kde tools for tat
[20:44] <bioterror> that
[20:45] <red_> is that a problem if i run kde app on lxde?
[20:45] <red_> yes, amarok is a kde music player from kubuntu
[20:45] <bioterror> rather gnome than kde
[20:45] <padge> I think the point is to avoid kde and gnome apps, because they require (enfatten from) stuff.
[20:45] <red_> i c
[20:45] <bioterror> as you have already some gnome deps
[20:46] <padge> err, I was gonna ask about that
[20:46] <bioterror> mark76, didnt work?
[20:46] <bioterror> took so long :D
[20:46] <red_> so apps, designed for certain DE, do not (necesarily) work in one's DE?
[20:46] <psymole> bioterror, that didnt work I still have no internet, if I dmesg | grep e100 still gives the same result
[20:46] <bioterror> red_, ofcourse they work
[20:46] <bioterror> psymole, hmmm
[20:46] <padge> red_, in my experience, mostly they work.
[20:47] <mark76> Nope. It doesn't work and I'm not going to even bother trying
[20:47] <padge> bioterror, Can you have a full KDE and full gnome environment running off the same window server?
[20:47] <bioterror> problem is that your amarok does not come with /usr/share/applications/amarok.desktop, I assume
[20:48] <bioterror> should I stop listening to music and maybe play with lubuntu
[20:48] <bioterror> as the you're all demanding something regarding it :d
[20:48] <bioterror> psymole, I'm really wondering now what to do
[20:49] <red_> install psybnc :)
[20:50] <red_> this is how i joke around in lubuntu
[20:50] <padge> bioterror, The OS invited us to come here for help, and you sound like you know what you're talking about ;D
[20:50] <red_> i give myself some simple task
[20:50] <red_> and see if i can do it
[20:50] <szczur> psymole, what dmesg | grep -i EEPROM gives?
[20:53] <bioterror> red_, my nokia phone can be mounted as a regular usb storage and I can just copy my files on it ;)
[20:54] <psymole> szczur: e100 0000:02:08.0: (unregiterd net_device) EEPROM corrupted
[20:54] <bioterror> hahahaha
[20:54] <bioterror> there we have it
[20:54] <szczur> HA!
[20:54] <szczur> i knew it
[20:54] <bioterror> :D
[20:54] <bioterror> haha
[20:54] <bioterror> psymole, reverse the editing
[20:55] <bioterror> for the eeprom100 -> e100
[20:55] <bioterror> and reboot
[20:55] <bioterror> then szczur will give you one command
[20:55] <szczur> sudo bash -c ‘echo “options e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1″ >> /etc/modprobe.d/options’
[20:55] <bioterror> thoho
[20:56] <szczur> or you can use http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19186&lang=eng&wapkw=%28ibautil%29
[20:57] <szczur> burn it to some kind of bootable DOS cd
[20:58] <szczur> psymole, http://pastebin.com/Tcf0V2jk
[20:58] <szczur> there's a talk about similar problem
[21:02] <bioterror> :D
[21:02] <bioterror> didnt see nothing at all, I think
[21:03] <szczur> where?
[21:05] <bioterror> here
[21:56] <padge> bioterror, I still have some trouble, something about a D-Bus error when I try to browse some existing locations on my network
[21:56] <bioterror> hmmm
[21:57] <padge> bioterror, When I try to browse into my computer over the network drives thing, I first get a D-Bus error message saying:
[21:57] <padge> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[21:58] <padge> then I'm assuming pcmanfm comes back with error "The specified location is not mounted."
[21:58] <padge> (presumably because of the previous failure)
[21:59] <padge> man, here's the kicker: Only when I choose to save my credentials when I am asked to authenticate
[22:02] <bioterror> mine didnt complain anything
[22:03] <padge> I did a lot of boogering around trying to get this to work.  I think I'll try a fresh install, then just get the one package I know I need
[22:04] <padge> just gvfs-backends, right?
[22:04] <bioterror> yeah I have only it installed
[22:05] <padge> alright, I'll bbl: let you know how it goes
[22:12] <bioterror> we never heard anything from psymole
[22:15] <szczur> yeah, don't know if it is good sign
[22:15] <szczur> or he gave up trying
[22:28] <bioterror> psymole, does it work now?
[22:31] <psymole> bioterror, no sadly it didnt work and just after trying that the internet went out and i Had to leave that pc at work, I wanted to donate that machine to a non profit children education org near my qork place so i will give it another run tommorow
[22:32] <psymole> * my work place
[22:32] <bioterror> you tried that
[22:32] <bioterror> sudo bash -c ‘echo “options e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1″ >> /etc/modprobe.d/options’
[22:35] <psymole> Yes I did That the rebooted, by the time I got back to the desktop I was having internet problems at the office so I couldnt write you back, Even with the internet issues I dont think that it worked because the icons near the clock still showed only the options to configure a VPN
[22:35] <psymole> *the rebooted
[22:35] <bioterror> okay
[22:35] <bioterror> recycle that old laptop then :D
[22:35] <chalkartist> hi all
[22:36] <red_> g'nite c ya tommorw
[22:37] <chalkartist> don't know if any devs are in here... just wanted to say 'good job' on the distro...
[22:37] <psymole> bioterror: I'll try again tomorrow, and I'll be arround here to keep bugging you for help : )
[22:37] <chalkartist> used xubuntu a lot... this boots in like 35s (dell c610, pIII 1000mHz 512ram)
[22:38] <bioterror> gilir, you got positive feedback ;)
[22:42] <chalkartist> gilir: u are one of the devs? or THE DEV?
[22:42] <chalkartist> lol
[22:43] <chalkartist> I don't think when I had xubuntu on this laptop that it booted as quickly... think it was like 1m 20s....
[22:44]  * chalkartist is a fan of 'minimal' distros....
[22:44] <chalkartist> running 10.10 btw
[22:50] <gilir> thanks chalkartist :) I'm only one dev, just more focused on LXDE/Lubuntu :)
[22:56] <chalkartist> gilir: I am enjoying it... helps that I have more time under my belt than when I started with xub.... flash, ndiswrapper, etc... already learned...
[22:57] <chalkartist> we're getting a strong t-storm here... gonna shut my stuff down...
[22:57] <chalkartist> take care all...
[23:39] <padge> No good :/
[23:39] <padge> I found gvfs-backends and gvfs-bin (or something) in Synaptic Package Manager and added them.
[23:40] <padge> Fresh install of lubuntu 10.10
[23:40] <padge> To get a list of shares on a host, I have to authenticate and forget
[23:40] <padge> to use a share, I have to authenticate and forget.  Once I'm in the share, I'm good, though.
[23:41] <padge> If I choose either option to remember my credentials (session or forever) I get that series of errors :/
[23:44] <padge> Hello?  Do I have to be identified to speak here?