=== Jef91|AFK is now known as Jef91 [00:03] Does Lubuntu have their own forums? [00:03] The LXDE forums have very little activity it seems :( [00:05] good question [00:05] even i dont know! :P [00:05] :-/ [00:05] I posted on the Ubuntu boards but no hits there after a few hours either === Jef91 is now known as Jef91|Away === RedW is now known as RedM === Jef91|Away is now known as Jef91|Grading === Jef91|Grading is now known as Jef91|Away === jmarsden_ is now known as jmarsden [01:17] Jef91|Away: PhillW has an Lubuntu forum on his setup, see http://forum.phillw.net/viewforum.php?f=18&sid=36697cfeb56d5228b3b4635c8fcc8690 [04:09] Does PCManFM have a search function built in [04:09] ? === Jef91|Away is now known as Jef91|Gaming [04:48] hi everybody [05:07] hi linuxx4 === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett === Jef91|Gaming is now known as Jef91|School [13:40] Does Lubuntu have a built in remote desktop server? [13:40] like regular Ubuntu does? [13:43] nope [13:43] So what's the best one to use? [13:43] I only need to access it from the local network [13:43] it depends? :D [13:44] I want one compatible with the one built in to the main Ubuntu [13:44] so I can connect to it from my computers with the main Ubuntu version [13:44] I've been using ssh -X if have needed something [13:45] szh, vinagre is shipped with ubuntu [13:45] szczur: can I install that on Lubuntu? [13:45] but I cant imagine any tasks that would require remote desktop [13:45] szh, ofcourse you can [13:46] without problems [13:46] cool! apt-get install vinagre? [13:46] yup [13:47] Great! [13:47] sudo apt-get if you're not root [13:47] right [13:51] It seems like vinagre is the client. What server does the main Ubuntu come with? [13:51] Okay, I figured it out. [13:52] It comes with vino [13:52] for the server [13:52] Thanks for the help [14:39] I am not able to report bugs through apport. I am working under http proxy. i have set my http enviroment variables correctly. I get connection time out. In ubuntu, its working fine for me. Is there a way to solve this issue? [14:41] i have a blank grub prompt when i boot my pc: how do i either repair grub from this prompt (minimal bash-like shell) or reinstall grub from the cd? [14:49] rtdos, usually it says something === zmijunkie_ is now known as zmijunkie [16:25] hi [16:31] hello leszek [16:31] was geht? [16:32] hallo red_ :) === Evixion` is now known as Evixion === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi [17:36] hi [17:37] hi [17:51] where's my root terminal gone? I've only just noticed it isn't there anymore [17:51] not that it matters mind you [17:56] root terminal? [18:02] yup, like what one gets with debian, i had one before alpha 2. Oh yeah I am using natty alphas [18:03] my facebook say that i need flash in my cromium what can i do? use the synaptic mannager? to download what plugin or to download direct from the web page? and wich extencion isrpm better ? apt or dev or rpm or yum or tar.gz? [18:03] im using lubuntu 10 [18:04] it was in the accessories list. Perhaps it was in alpha 1 because people more advanced than I would do lots of stuff as root [18:04] That should have installed while the install was happening. if you chose the option to install 3rd party software [18:05] lots of 'install' inthat really [18:06] satellite: if you checked the 3rd party software option while you were installing flash should be up & running [18:07] 10.10 or 10.04? [18:07] 1010 [18:07] and i click the 3rd party option [18:07] weird, it worked for me. I dont know enough to be of any more use I'm afraid [18:08] i try to use the city of wonders of facebook and that is the problem [18:08] haha I dont even know what that is :) [18:09] flash is available in synaptic [18:10] or....lubuntu restricted extras may work [18:10] again in synaptic [18:11] and that is about the limit of my knowledge. I've broken my system soooooooooooo many times it's not funny any more [18:12] ok tnks [18:13] no probs mate [18:13] but if i want to install latter a newer version [18:13] what is the best way? [18:13] flash or lubuntu? [18:13] wha tis the best way to install a new flash player? [18:14] got me there, I don't know. I've never had to. [18:14] I'm not even sure if it is covered in the updates [18:14] I think you can activate updates in the repositories, which again is in synaptic [18:17] I'm just installing something then I'll check where you can activate repos [18:20] back in 5 mins [18:26] settings - repositories - other software [18:34] re [18:48] & I'dadd canonicalpartners & hopefor the best [18:49] satellite: good luck. I gotta go, but someone here will be able to help you more than me anyway :) [18:50] pip__, tnks man [18:50] pip__, see you later [18:50] no probs dude [18:50] laters [18:50] pip__, im installing all the updates [18:55] gilir, you here [18:57] bioterror, yes ? [18:57] gilir, did you notice the email conversation from yesterday evening? [18:58] bioterror, about what ? [18:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bioterror if you click my email address, it will open a new browser window (atleast when using Chromium) [19:00] it will call /usr/bin/xdg-email which has in "generic" following parameters 'sensible-browser "$1"' [19:01] you can replace sensible-browser with "sylpheed --compose", but it wont work if you install thunderbird and you remove sylpheed [19:02] bioterror, to be right, it should check if it's in LXDE desktop, and search for the default mail client set by "Prefered application" [19:03] preferred application is uses libfm-pref-apps and it calls for sylpheed.desktop [19:03] and it wont use "--compose" [19:03] (I tested with abiword ;) [19:04] hum, so it probably needs another fix for libfm-pref-apps, it makes sense to launch email client with --compose by default :) [19:04] I spent few moments digging this issue [19:05] and this email thing is kinda critical [19:05] see also the bug reported upstream for xdg-* : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26058 [19:05] Freedesktop bug 26058 in xdg-utils "add lxde support to xdg-utils" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [19:06] that's some progress [19:06] also, libfm-pref-apps is broken in Natty :-/ [19:21] hi im trying to install lubuntu 10.10 on compaq evo n160 but i get no internet connection any ideas? [19:23] wlan or ethernet [19:23] ethernet [19:23] do you see your nic when you say "ifconfig" in terminal, without "" [19:24] i dont have any use wlan on such an old laptop [19:39] bioterror: ifconfig gives link encap: local loop back [19:40] do it give you "eth0"? [19:40] inet addr: 127.0.0.1 mask: 255.0.0.0 [19:40] sudo dhclient eth0 [19:40] NO it doesnt [19:41] really [19:41] hmmm [19:42] dhclient eth= says no such device [19:42] niiiice [19:42] just a moment [19:42] maybe its something i need to install? [19:42] Ḯ'll ssh to my wife's laptop [19:43] psymole, in terminal "lspci |grep Network" [19:45] does it reply something like this: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 16) [19:46] It doesnt return anything [19:47] bioterror, It doesnt return anything [19:48] niiice [19:48] problem is: your ethernet card is not found by the OS [19:51] bioterror, how can i fix it ? [19:52] good question [19:53] what would szczur do [19:53] anything I can download from another machine and install on the evo n160 [19:55] hmm [19:55] it should have eepro100 [19:57] http://julien.mary.free.fr/linux/evon160/ [19:59] how do i install the drivers for eepro100 [20:01] modprobe eepro100 [20:01] or modprobe e100 [20:01] sudo modprobe [20:01] those modules should be loaded by default [20:07] bioterror, modprobe eepro100 returns module not found [20:07] modprobe e100 returns nothing [20:08] hmm [20:08] if e100 says nothing [20:08] I'm having trouble with samba, smbclient, smbmount, etc. I've followed the walkthrough linked from the main page, but it doesn't go down like that for me [20:08] can you now see eth0 in ifconfig [20:08] padge, explain more [20:08] nope [20:08] When I try to mount a remote location, It just says something to the effect of the host not being found [20:09] Also, I don't fully understand the problem myself [20:09] I don [20:09] I don't know what all packages I need to make this technology work. I'd like to be able to mount SMB shares as locations. [20:10] Something about CIFS replacing SMBFS? [20:10] padge, sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends [20:11] padge, close pcmanfm and open it again [20:11] If I close all visible instances is it done or do I need to go killing? [20:11] psymole, what does command "uname -a" return to you [20:12] padge, just close it [20:13] my kernel is 2.6.35-22-generic its i686 pc [20:13] bioterror, my kernel is 2.6.35-22-generic its i686 pc [20:14] Okay, so now pcmanfm takes smb:// locations, but I still get an error when I try to go anywhere [20:15] bioterror, What is gvfs-backends, and what else should I have to do? Should I have to go mounting locations manually, and writing up some script or is there an easier way? [20:16] padge, apt-cache show gvfs-backends [20:16] psymole, can you say "sudo lshw -C network" [20:20] It returns network Unclaimed / decription: ethernet controler / product: 82801 CAM (ICH3) pro /100 VE (LOM) ethernet controler / vendor: Intel corporation [20:20] bioterror, gvfs-backends looks like a very helpful package. Now that it's installed, is there something special I should have to do? [20:20] bioterror, It returns network Unclaimed / decription: ethernet controler / product: 82801 CAM (ICH3) pro /100 VE (LOM) ethernet controler / vendor: Intel corporation [20:20] padge, nothing really, I think [20:21] psymole, so it is found afterl all [20:21] bioterror it seems so, but I still get no internet goodness [20:21] psymole, dmesg | grep e100 [20:21] bioterror, How do I browse to a remote location with pcmanfm, then? [20:22] padge, from menu -> network places [20:22] or what was it [20:22] I'm not on my lubuntu [20:22] szczur, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [20:22] # replaced by e100 [20:22] blacklist eepro100 [20:23] bioterror, Go -> Network Drives. That's the stuff! Thanks a bunch, bio! I really appreciate the help. [20:23] padge, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ read that, might find something useful [20:25] psymole, Mon22:21 psymole, dmesg | grep e100 [20:28] red_, what are you doing? [20:29] bioterror, I have those lines # replaced by e100 / blacklist eepro100 [20:29] psymole, we are just chatting wif szczur [20:29] psymole, we are interested in dmesg |grep e100 [20:32] bioterror: i will see to that task sometime tomorrow hopefully [20:32] l8er folks [20:32] strycore, okay [20:33] ahh, he was too fast [20:33] Hey bio. Have you ever got autologin working with lxdm? [20:33] heh, i thought strycor(e) is stlsaint's bot :) [20:34] mark76, look the faq ;) [20:34] NO, I asked you if you'd got it working [20:34] seems like we've got it working couple of times :D [20:35] Because I sure as hell can't [20:35] why not? [20:35] Hang on [20:35] ok that its as follow [20:36] You have to edit /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf, right? [20:36] should be default.conf [20:36] bioterror: PCI 0000:02:08.0: firmware left e100 interrupts enabled, disabling [20:37] szczur :D [20:37] Okay. I've edited that [20:37] bioterror, so I've been distracted into a document on D-Bus [20:38] Let me reboot and see if it helped [20:38] bioterror: e100 Intel PRO/100 network driver 3.5.24-k2-Napi [20:38] bioterror, D-Bus is where the magic happens when it comes to polling for new drives, and USB devices, and anything else that can be added or removed from the system hot? [20:39] bioterror, And by punctuating a declaration with a question mark, I guess I just mean to 'assert' that. [20:40] bioterror: e100 0000:02:08.0: PCI INT A -» LINK [LNKE] -» GSI 9 (level, low) -» IRQ9 [20:40] psymole, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [20:40] replace the eepro100 with e100 [20:40] and "sudo reboot" [20:40] psymole, sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [20:41] hope it works [20:41] bioterror: will do, thx [20:43] bio; how do i find and then start amarok (the ipod/iphone application) [20:43] ive installed it via apt-get but now i can't find it [20:43] really [20:43] amarok is a kde music player? [20:44] I think there's non-kde tools for tat [20:44] that [20:45] is that a problem if i run kde app on lxde? [20:45] yes, amarok is a kde music player from kubuntu [20:45] rather gnome than kde [20:45] I think the point is to avoid kde and gnome apps, because they require (enfatten from) stuff. [20:45] i c [20:45] as you have already some gnome deps [20:46] err, I was gonna ask about that [20:46] mark76, didnt work? [20:46] took so long :D [20:46] so apps, designed for certain DE, do not (necesarily) work in one's DE? [20:46] bioterror, that didnt work I still have no internet, if I dmesg | grep e100 still gives the same result [20:46] red_, ofcourse they work [20:46] psymole, hmmm [20:46] red_, in my experience, mostly they work. [20:47] Nope. It doesn't work and I'm not going to even bother trying [20:47] bioterror, Can you have a full KDE and full gnome environment running off the same window server? [20:47] problem is that your amarok does not come with /usr/share/applications/amarok.desktop, I assume [20:48] should I stop listening to music and maybe play with lubuntu [20:48] as the you're all demanding something regarding it :d [20:48] psymole, I'm really wondering now what to do [20:49] install psybnc :) [20:50] this is how i joke around in lubuntu [20:50] bioterror, The OS invited us to come here for help, and you sound like you know what you're talking about ;D [20:50] i give myself some simple task [20:50] and see if i can do it [20:50] psymole, what dmesg | grep -i EEPROM gives? [20:53] red_, my nokia phone can be mounted as a regular usb storage and I can just copy my files on it ;) [20:54] szczur: e100 0000:02:08.0: (unregiterd net_device) EEPROM corrupted [20:54] hahahaha [20:54] there we have it [20:54] HA! [20:54] i knew it [20:54] :D [20:54] haha [20:54] psymole, reverse the editing [20:55] for the eeprom100 -> e100 [20:55] and reboot [20:55] then szczur will give you one command [20:55] sudo bash -c ‘echo “options e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1″ >> /etc/modprobe.d/options’ [20:55] thoho [20:56] or you can use http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19186&lang=eng&wapkw=%28ibautil%29 [20:57] burn it to some kind of bootable DOS cd [20:58] psymole, http://pastebin.com/Tcf0V2jk [20:58] there's a talk about similar problem [21:02] :D [21:02] didnt see nothing at all, I think [21:03] where? [21:05] here [21:56] bioterror, I still have some trouble, something about a D-Bus error when I try to browse some existing locations on my network [21:56] hmmm [21:57] bioterror, When I try to browse into my computer over the network drives thing, I first get a D-Bus error message saying: [21:57] org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) [21:58] then I'm assuming pcmanfm comes back with error "The specified location is not mounted." [21:58] (presumably because of the previous failure) [21:59] man, here's the kicker: Only when I choose to save my credentials when I am asked to authenticate [22:02] mine didnt complain anything [22:03] I did a lot of boogering around trying to get this to work. I think I'll try a fresh install, then just get the one package I know I need [22:04] just gvfs-backends, right? [22:04] yeah I have only it installed [22:05] alright, I'll bbl: let you know how it goes === szczur_ is now known as szczur [22:12] we never heard anything from psymole [22:15] yeah, don't know if it is good sign [22:15] or he gave up trying [22:28] psymole, does it work now? [22:31] bioterror, no sadly it didnt work and just after trying that the internet went out and i Had to leave that pc at work, I wanted to donate that machine to a non profit children education org near my qork place so i will give it another run tommorow [22:32] * my work place [22:32] you tried that [22:32] sudo bash -c ‘echo “options e100 eeprom_bad_csum_allow=1″ >> /etc/modprobe.d/options’ [22:35] Yes I did That the rebooted, by the time I got back to the desktop I was having internet problems at the office so I couldnt write you back, Even with the internet issues I dont think that it worked because the icons near the clock still showed only the options to configure a VPN [22:35] *the rebooted [22:35] okay [22:35] recycle that old laptop then :D [22:35] hi all [22:36] g'nite c ya tommorw [22:37] don't know if any devs are in here... just wanted to say 'good job' on the distro... [22:37] bioterror: I'll try again tomorrow, and I'll be arround here to keep bugging you for help : ) [22:37] used xubuntu a lot... this boots in like 35s (dell c610, pIII 1000mHz 512ram) [22:38] gilir, you got positive feedback ;) [22:42] gilir: u are one of the devs? or THE DEV? [22:42] lol [22:43] I don't think when I had xubuntu on this laptop that it booted as quickly... think it was like 1m 20s.... [22:44] * chalkartist is a fan of 'minimal' distros.... [22:44] running 10.10 btw [22:50] thanks chalkartist :) I'm only one dev, just more focused on LXDE/Lubuntu :) === Jef91|School is now known as Jef91|Busy [22:56] gilir: I am enjoying it... helps that I have more time under my belt than when I started with xub.... flash, ndiswrapper, etc... already learned... [22:57] we're getting a strong t-storm here... gonna shut my stuff down... [22:57] take care all... === jef91 is now known as Jef91|AFK [23:39] No good :/ [23:39] I found gvfs-backends and gvfs-bin (or something) in Synaptic Package Manager and added them. [23:40] Fresh install of lubuntu 10.10 [23:40] To get a list of shares on a host, I have to authenticate and forget [23:40] to use a share, I have to authenticate and forget. Once I'm in the share, I'm good, though. [23:41] If I choose either option to remember my credentials (session or forever) I get that series of errors :/ [23:44] Hello? Do I have to be identified to speak here?