Logan_WP | Oer: I got an error :( | 00:02 |
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slyrus | I'm seeing bluetooth problems on latest natty. anyone else? it works, but only after a reboot. | 02:48 |
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aberhow1 | anyone have an issue with xubuntu where the network manager is no longer present? | 07:39 |
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al-maisan | One of my machines seems afflicted with bug #723482; when I try SysRq-i as described in comment #24 I only get to the SysRq HELP string .. | 09:09 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 723482 in mountall (Ubuntu) "system hangs on boot after updates from 2011-02-22" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723482 | 09:09 |
al-maisan | do I need to hold some other key while doing this e.g. ALT or CTRL? | 09:10 |
susundberg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 09:11 |
susundberg | 'Ctrl'+'Alt'+'SysRq'+key | 09:11 |
susundberg | also this seems pretty nice: http://www.slackwiki.org/SysRq | 09:13 |
al-maisan | hmm .. the wikipedia article says: "The key combination consists of Alt, SysRq and another key.." | 09:17 |
yofel | that's alt+print+<key> for most keyboards, but might be different for some | 09:21 |
al-maisan | susundberg and yofel : thanks, that works. | 09:22 |
susundberg | Actually, my keyboard has even print 'Sys Rq'! | 09:23 |
susundberg | wow | 09:23 |
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mondi | can anyone help me with browsing my disks | 09:50 |
Fjodor | mondi: Btw., though, when responding to a person, it's a good idea to prefix the answer with said user's nickname. xchat and possibly other clients have auto-completion for that ;-) | 09:50 |
mondi | Fjodor, i am a bit rusty after not using irc for a while | 09:51 |
Fjodor | mondi: But still, I can't help, whereas people in here might be able to tell you if there are known issues with nautilus at the moment ;-) | 09:51 |
Fjodor | mondi: And no harm done - it's just more convenient that way ;-) | 09:52 |
mondi | looks like this place is dad. i should come when its day time for US i guess | 09:54 |
rumpe1 | mondi, just ask a more specific question | 09:55 |
mondi | rumpe1, i cant open any disks from places menu, it opens a blank window and tells me its not responding after sometime | 09:56 |
rumpe1 | mondi, where are the disks? remote? give more infos | 09:57 |
mondi | rumpe1, its in my computer. | 09:58 |
rumpe1 | mondi, does mouting/listing via terminal work? | 09:59 |
mondi | rumpe1, its already mounted. i just cant open it. i tried to open an external usb disk too. same problem | 09:59 |
mondi | rumpe1, this happened after i installed 2.6.38-5-generic kernel | 09:59 |
rumpe1 | mondi, does it work with an older kernel? | 10:00 |
mondi | rumpe1, it works for a while and then its the same thing again | 10:00 |
mondi | rumpe1, the oldest i have is 2.6.38-3 | 10:01 |
rumpe1 | hm... have you checked smart-status? | 10:01 |
mondi | rumpe1, no | 10:01 |
mondi | rumpe1, how do i do that | 10:01 |
rumpe1 | gnome-disk-utility | 10:02 |
rumpe1 | also check dmesg and syslog logs.... | 10:03 |
rumpe1 | what filesystem(s) btw.? | 10:04 |
mondi | let me check | 10:05 |
mondi | rumpe1, it says Device is mounted and no online capability in fsck tool for file system | 10:08 |
mondi | HPFS/NTFS | 10:09 |
rumpe1 | maybe the ntfs-partitions weren't shut down in the right way and are locked | 10:11 |
rumpe1 | you maybe have to use force-option for mounting them | 10:11 |
mondi | ic | 10:12 |
rumpe1 | e.g. mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX /media/mountpoint -o force | 10:13 |
rumpe1 | i personally don't use ntfs... maybe there are some risks involved | 10:13 |
rumpe1 | i recommend to google "mount unclean ntfs ubuntu" ... or something like that .. for more informations | 10:14 |
mondi | thanks | 10:15 |
rumpe1 | mondi, i am still not sure, if that's the reason for your problems | 10:15 |
rumpe1 | you shouldn't be able to mount them the usual way if that's the case | 10:16 |
rumpe1 | hm | 10:16 |
proti | morning | 10:31 |
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hype | hi | 13:50 |
hype | i have some questions concerning Natty and gtk3: is it possible to run gtk3 properly on Natty? Will i see 3 choices of sessions: classic, gnome3 and unity? | 13:52 |
ChogyDan | hype: I heard gnome3 was delayed but take that with a grain of salt | 14:11 |
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Ian_Corne | hmm | 15:10 |
Ian_Corne | I dared to reboot :( | 15:11 |
Ian_Corne | now only nouveau works | 15:11 |
KuKuNut | how can I disable akonadi from starting? I still have to manually stop it everytime | 15:11 |
yofel | KuKuNut: I would believe setting StartServer=false in ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc will do that | 15:12 |
KuKuNut | yofel: thaks. will check it out. btw it's not shown in startup/session in syssettings. :( | 15:14 |
KuKuNut | yofel: .config? not .kde? | 15:14 |
yofel | I believe it's not an autostart application but it's triggered by the kde startup | 15:14 |
yofel | KuKuNut: akonadi isn't part of KDE - thus .config | 15:15 |
KuKuNut | yofel: interesting..all the while I thought it was a kde thing.. | 15:15 |
yofel | well, it is somewhat, but doesn't depend on it | 15:15 |
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KuKuNut | yofel: noticed phonon is no longer part of the iso. could you enlighten us why so? | 15:20 |
yofel | o.O? I didn't notice that | 15:21 |
KuKuNut | yofel: well in thge manifest it's not | 15:21 |
KuKuNut | *the | 15:21 |
yofel | ask in #kubuntu-devel, I don't know much about the iso seeds | 15:22 |
kenta | Hi. I'm running 11.04. when running "apt-get update" all the lines has "Ign" prefix. havent gotten a update in days. | 15:24 |
yofel | try to switch to another mirror | 15:25 |
KuKuNut | yofel: wait .. it looks like phonon is just a meta pkg now. jumped the gun here..but it's now phonon-backend-gstreamer | 15:26 |
kenta | good idea, yofel. now i got 172 mb of updates | 15:26 |
kenta | thanks | 15:26 |
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KuKuNut | when will eric5 be in the repo? | 15:33 |
yofel | KuKuNut: natty+1 probably | 15:35 |
KuKuNut | yofel: is there a ppa? | 15:36 |
yofel | haven't looked for one | 15:38 |
KuKuNut | google didn't see any. | 15:38 |
Pici | Use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas to search | 15:39 |
dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in #ubuntu-classroom in 20 minutes! | 15:40 |
lcb | Hi. how can I add VirtualBox repository for Natty? (trying to registerimage and tells me the version i have -from natty -is outdated) | 15:56 |
charlie-tca | virtualbox-ose is up-to-date in natty repositories | 15:58 |
lcb | I mean.. is there a repository for natty? (since the only one i get is from maverick) | 15:58 |
charlie-tca | won't be one until natty releases | 15:58 |
lcb | charlie-tca, so, that means latest registerimage is not recognizing that one as latest... | 15:59 |
rumpe1 | lcb, in partner-repositories i guess | 15:59 |
charlie-tca | I have been using the ose version, and it works | 15:59 |
lcb | rumpe1, only for maverick | 15:59 |
charlie-tca | Normally, the Virtualbox repository for puel version is not updated until final release. | 16:00 |
rumpe1 | lcb, ah... ok | 16:00 |
lcb | charlie-tca, indeed - virtualbox. did you try to register an image? | 16:00 |
charlie-tca | I used it this morning | 16:00 |
lcb | charlie-tca, registerimage? :o | 16:00 |
charlie-tca | no, I did not regtister an image, I just ran 4 installs in it | 16:01 |
lcb | i just gor the jar file and it gives me that warning/error tough | 16:01 |
lcb | ok... | 16:01 |
lcb | charlie-tca, the ose works fine. only if you want to register and install an image you'll get that. so... wait :) | 16:03 |
charlie-tca | okay | 16:03 |
smoser | anyone know how i change switch to (or from) compiz in natty ? | 16:33 |
smoser | i swear it used to be in system-> preferences -> appearance, but i dont see it there any more. | 16:33 |
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yofel | smoser: should be possible in classic desktop I think. Unity requires compiz | 16:37 |
smoser | i'm in classic desktop. | 16:38 |
smoser | i am without compiz right now, can't figure out how to turn it on | 16:39 |
coz_ | smoser, try compiz --replace ccp & disown from terminal | 16:40 |
smoser | why disown ? just curious | 16:40 |
smoser | (i know what it does) | 16:40 |
coz_ | smoser, well you can try it without pushing it into the background | 16:40 |
smoser | coz_, so where is the setting that woudl do that ? (it did work, i'm in compiz now). how would i go back though ? | 16:41 |
smoser | (and it seems to have fixed the drawing issues that were annoying me. | 16:42 |
coz_ | smoser, well when you logged into classic gnome , did you use the (no effects) option just classic gnome? | 16:42 |
coz_ | smoser, it probably should have started with the classic gnome session option | 16:42 |
smoser | i think just classic desktop | 16:42 |
coz_ | smoser, not sure if anything has changed ,, I have to reinstall natty to find out | 16:43 |
smoser | but i do have some prefs stored somewhere which woudl indicate that i dont want compiz | 16:43 |
smoser | as i generally dont like it | 16:43 |
coz_ | smoser, I am a bit confused,, you dont want compiz running? | 16:43 |
smoser | normally i dont. and it was not running. | 16:44 |
coz_ | smoser, if that's the case... log out then log into classic gnome ( no effects) session | 16:44 |
Fluttershy | how do I make the menu stop auto-hiding? | 16:44 |
coz_ | smoser, you can start compiz the same way even in that session or stop with with metacity --replace | 16:44 |
smoser | but in 2d mode, since last upgradae i parts of windows left on the screen when i switch desktops. i wanted to see if compiz "fixed" that. it did. | 16:44 |
smoser | coz_, thanks for the 'metacity --replace' and the help. | 16:45 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, open ccsm and the unity compiz plugin and disable autohide.. *i belive it is still in there | 16:45 |
Amaranth | smoser: The prefs from 10.10 to control that are gone afaik so you may be getting compiz if you didn't choose the no effects version | 16:45 |
coz_ | smoser, no problem | 16:45 |
Amaranth | Oh, you've solved it already :) | 16:45 |
smoser | well, s/solved/worked-around/ | 16:46 |
smoser | thanks all. | 16:46 |
Fluttershy | coz_: do I need to add the repo? | 16:48 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, for ccsm? I dont believe so just sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager | 16:49 |
Fluttershy | coz_: already tried | 16:49 |
Fluttershy | says it can't find the package | 16:49 |
coz_ | o0 | 16:49 |
coz_ | mmm | 16:49 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, open synaptic packages manager hit Settings/repositories | 16:49 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, see if any are disabled in the first and second tabs | 16:50 |
Fluttershy | Fluttershy: Canonical Partners is unchecked, as are Unsupported Updates and the Maverick CD | 16:50 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, this was an upgrade from maverick? | 16:51 |
Fluttershy | yeah | 16:51 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, well the maverick stuff is useless so dont tick that | 16:51 |
Fluttershy | couldn't manage to get a clean install to go through | 16:51 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, ah I see | 16:51 |
Fluttershy | so did a clean Maverick install and upgraded instead | 16:51 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, well if you cant find it in the repositories try here http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/compizconfig-settings-manager | 16:52 |
Fluttershy | there, installing | 16:52 |
coz_ | ah ok | 16:52 |
Fluttershy | coz_: got it, thanks | 17:02 |
coz_ | Fluttershy, cool | 17:02 |
nekto0n | hi there! is ubuntu natty completely broken? after logging in unity evn I can see only wallpaper | 17:20 |
coz_ | nekohayo, that has happened to me several times... right click desktop create a launcher for the terminal | 17:24 |
coz_ | nekohayo, then in the terminal gnome-panel & disown | 17:24 |
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nekohayo | nekto0n you mean | 17:24 |
coz_ | sorry | 17:25 |
nekohayo | :) | 17:25 |
coz_ | nekto0n, that has happened to me several times... right click desktop create a launcher for the terminal | 17:25 |
coz_ | <coz_> nekohayo, then in the terminal gnome-panel & disown | 17:25 |
coz_ | nekto0n, that is for classic gnome.. it may work in unity not sure ,, I havent tried it | 17:26 |
coz_ | nekto0n, which video card do you have ... nvidia? | 17:26 |
nekto0n | coz_, intel i965 | 17:27 |
coz_ | ah ok | 17:27 |
nekto0n | coz_, i'll reboot and give it another try | 17:30 |
coz_ | ok | 17:30 |
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soreau | I am trying to install natty from a live session but the installer just sits there with busy cursor after pressing forward | 17:52 |
nekto0n | can connman applet connect to hidden AP? seems to have been broken | 17:52 |
e01 | soreau, how long? | 17:55 |
soreau | e01: forever | 17:55 |
charlie-tca | soreau: images are broken still | 17:55 |
charlie-tca | they should be working tomorrow | 17:55 |
soreau | yes I'm looking for the fix | 17:55 |
soreau | I patched in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/572185/ but it's still doing the same thing | 17:56 |
vivid | soreau, the mini net installer is working | 17:59 |
soreau | vivid: How do you use that? | 17:59 |
vivid | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso | 17:59 |
vivid | burn it and put it in the cd drive | 17:59 |
soreau | vivid: Will it be a full blown install after updates? | 18:00 |
vivid | yes, it simply installs from the network instead of a cd live session | 18:00 |
vivid | if you have a fast connection.....it will be faster than downloading the cd installer and then upgrading | 18:00 |
vivid | substitue installer-i386 for installer-amd64 in the link if you want a 64bit system | 18:01 |
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MK` | Is this the unstable channel? | 18:46 |
Daekdroom | Is it only here or did X.org break in the last update? | 18:53 |
yofel | MK`: this is the channel for the development release | 18:57 |
MK` | Ok. I was wondering how well GNOME Shell/Nautilus works in 11.04 | 18:58 |
yofel | natty won't have gnome3 | 18:58 |
vivid | unity sure looks like it borrowed some of the ideas :p | 19:03 |
MK` | Ah; I use 10.10 now, if I upgrade when time comes will it cease working? | 19:10 |
yofel | as I don't use it I can't give an answer to that, but there's a PPA from the gnom3-team with packages for gnome3 | 19:11 |
noob | will the legacy panel system be avail in natty ?? by default ? and is unity a good replacement till now or it needs more work in natty+1 | 19:11 |
yofel | noob: gnome 2.32 will be availble as classic gnome by default | 19:12 |
MK` | I just switched to Ubuntu last week after over a decade of Windows so I am not too attached to any GUI yet, I was just curious | 19:12 |
yofel | ah, I can't really give you any pointers there as I myself use KDE, not gnome | 19:13 |
noob | yofel, but gnome 2.32 is shipped in maverick .. i talk about natty | 19:13 |
MK` | Alright | 19:13 |
yofel | noob: natty ships gnome 2.32 too | 19:13 |
MK` | I used KDE once in Mandrake Linux a few years ago | 19:13 |
noob | why not gnome 3.0 | 19:13 |
yofel | noob: no idea, the developers decided not ot | 19:13 |
yofel | *not to | 19:13 |
MK` | but I couldn't get Linux to recognize my modem so I switched back to windows | 19:13 |
yofel | MK`: true, old 56k modems rarely have linux drivers, and the kernel developers don't really care about those | 19:14 |
MK` | yeah | 19:14 |
noob | so natty will be shipped with gnome 2.32 and unity ? am i right | 19:14 |
yofel | mine here doesn't work either, thankfully I don't need it | 19:14 |
yofel | noob: yes | 19:14 |
ior3k | anyone here using emacs and anything.el? Since I installed anything.el, emacs is segfaulting left and right for me | 19:19 |
psusi | yofel: afaik, only the crappy "winmodems" had problems with drivers, and I think even those were sorted eventually. A real modem doesn't need a driver beyond the standard serial port driver | 19:23 |
yofel | no idea, I'm talking about the integrated one in my thinkpad | 19:23 |
psusi | I have no idea either, I stopped caring about modems around 1999 ;) | 19:24 |
yofel | I only have a use for it when I'm in another country, but then I just use windows | 19:24 |
psusi | but iirc, vendors started to get cheap and stopped supplying real modems and just used what amounted to a sound card with a phone jack attached and supplied software to implement a virtual modem | 19:25 |
yofel | which is the case for mine I think | 19:27 |
Ian_Corne | anyone tried nvidia with the new xupdates ? | 20:23 |
yofel | I didn't see any X updates today | 20:24 |
Ian_Corne | well | 20:25 |
Ian_Corne | the updates of a while ago | 20:25 |
yofel | nvidia 270.29 works with x-server 1.10rc2 | 20:26 |
Fluttershy | hmm | 20:27 |
Fluttershy | any idea why I'm only getting File (with just Close) for all programs in the menu? | 20:27 |
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BUGabundo | evening | 21:16 |
guntbert | hi BUGabundo | 21:17 |
cg2916 | i need help with a booting error | 21:18 |
charlie-tca | Hello, BUGabundo | 21:19 |
BUGabundo | hey guys | 21:19 |
guntbert | cg2916: shall we guess or will you tell us some details? | 21:19 |
cg2916 | details | 21:19 |
charlie-tca | I think guessing is more fun | 21:19 |
cg2916 | i burned natty alpha 2 to a live cd | 21:19 |
cg2916 | i see the purple screen with the two icons, i hit enter, then i hit enter on Try Without Making CHanges | 21:20 |
cg2916 | it freezes | 21:20 |
* charlie-tca is braindead after this weekend. Can't get nothing to work again | 21:20 | |
charlie-tca | cg2916: what video card do you have? | 21:20 |
cg2916 | hang on | 21:21 |
cg2916 | charlie-tca: it appears as Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chopset Family under display adapters | 21:23 |
cg2916 | chipset* | 21:23 |
charlie-tca | I thought intel worked now | 21:23 |
cg2916 | guess not | 21:23 |
cg2916 | does the video card matter THAT much? | 21:24 |
charlie-tca | When you start the cd, hit a key to bring up the menu, select the language, then hit F6, highlight nomodeset, and hit enter twice. See if that helps | 21:25 |
charlie-tca | yes, it matters that much | 21:25 |
charlie-tca | You should see two symbols at the bottom of the purple screen, hit a key then | 21:26 |
cg2916 | ok | 21:26 |
cg2916 | let me restart | 21:26 |
charlie-tca | Of course, there is always the wait few days things, too, since alpha3 will be coming out this week | 21:27 |
cg2916 | i didn | 21:34 |
cg2916 | it didn't work | 21:34 |
cg2916 | charlire-tca; didn't work | 21:35 |
cg2916 | charlie-tca: didn't work | 21:35 |
cg2916 | anybody here | 21:37 |
charlie-tca | I don't know then, except to try tomorrows natty image. | 21:37 |
cg2916 | ok | 21:37 |
cg2916 | i'll re-burn the disk | 21:38 |
charlie-tca | It has more stuff that works | 21:38 |
cg2916 | will today's work? | 21:38 |
charlie-tca | Just don't burn the image from today | 21:38 |
cg2916 | is it broken? | 21:38 |
charlie-tca | no, todays image is broken | 21:38 |
cg2916 | ok | 21:38 |
cg2916 | yesterday's? i'm really eager | 21:38 |
charlie-tca | nope, broken all week | 21:39 |
cg2916 | wow, what's wrong? | 21:39 |
cg2916 | do the daily images really provide anything new? | 21:41 |
charlie-tca | It is a development version, so, yes, many things change constantly | 21:45 |
charlie-tca | from alpha2 to alpha3, things are actually working | 21:45 |
cg2916 | ok. i was wondering if i should zsync with the risk of possible lockout | 21:45 |
charlie-tca | the dock has launchers in it, the menu might be working, etc | 21:45 |
charlie-tca | yup, zsync works well. | 21:45 |
charlie-tca | I use it everyday | 21:45 |
cg2916 | but, if i zsync the daily image, won't i get problems? | 21:46 |
charlie-tca | nope | 21:46 |
cg2916 | well, for this week? | 21:46 |
charlie-tca | It just won't install today | 21:46 |
cg2916 | oh, ok | 21:46 |
cg2916 | well, thanks | 21:46 |
cg2916 | btw, how to you like ubuntu | 21:46 |
charlie-tca | it will still sync, zsync doesn't care if it installs or not | 21:46 |
charlie-tca | heh, I don't | 21:46 |
charlie-tca | I use Xubuntu, but I test both Ubuntu and Xubuntu images | 21:47 |
cg2916 | ok | 21:47 |
charlie-tca | :-) | 21:47 |
cg2916 | i'd prefer GNOME | 21:47 |
charlie-tca | Then you can use the "classic desktop" session when you login | 21:48 |
cg2916 | ok | 21:49 |
cg2916 | now, how will i know if the daily image works tomorrow | 21:49 |
cg2916 | charlie-tca: hello? | 21:53 |
cg2916 | hey, jeiworth | 21:55 |
jeiworth | h | 21:56 |
jeiworth | hi | 21:56 |
cg2916 | have you tried the alpha 2 yet? | 21:56 |
jeiworth | no, actually i am lagging behind in the 11.04, haven't tried anything yet *fg* | 21:57 |
cg2916 | ok, so 10.10 | 21:58 |
charlie-tca | cg2916: won't know without trying it, unless you ask me | 22:00 |
cg2916 | ok | 22:00 |
cg2916 | i'll come here | 22:00 |
charlie-tca | The other workaround is to install 10.10, which works, then upgrade it to natty | 22:00 |
cg2916 | ok | 22:07 |
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kim0 | hey folks, sun-java is stuck at update 22, there's a lot of fixes in 24, is that gonna be pushed soon | 22:24 |
Fluttershy | is there a way to change the clock to 24h? I can't find an option in dconf-editor | 22:25 |
Fluttershy | er, never mind, found it | 22:26 |
yofel | kim0: maverick/partner shows 6.24 here | 22:27 |
kim0 | yofel: I'm on natty | 22:28 |
kim0 | um, how do I enabled that | 22:28 |
yofel | kim0: add maverick partner in software properties, natty/partner is empty until release | 22:29 |
yofel | if you need the deb line: | 22:29 |
yofel | deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner | 22:29 |
kim0 | yofel: thanks :) | 22:30 |
kim0 | wonder if that's a wise decision | 22:31 |
kim0 | I'm left with security holes, and now I wonder if I'll remember reverting back to natty | 22:31 |
coz_ | kim0, well you should easily remember that since you are putting that repo in manually... yes? | 22:32 |
yofel | kim0: you don't need to change it, just add both - the natty version will be greater than the maverick version | 22:32 |
kim0 | yofel: good idea ;) | 22:32 |
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