[00:02] Oer: I got an error :( === marcos_ is now known as Daekdroom [02:07] cd === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [02:48] I'm seeing bluetooth problems on latest natty. anyone else? it works, but only after a reboot. === Logan_WP is now known as Logan[zing-me] === Logan[zing-me] is now known as Logan_WP === Logan_WP is now known as Guest19618 [07:39] anyone have an issue with xubuntu where the network manager is no longer present? === deegee_ is now known as plustwo [09:09] One of my machines seems afflicted with bug #723482; when I try SysRq-i as described in comment #24 I only get to the SysRq HELP string .. [09:09] Launchpad bug 723482 in mountall (Ubuntu) "system hangs on boot after updates from 2011-02-22" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723482 [09:10] do I need to hold some other key while doing this e.g. ALT or CTRL? [09:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [09:11] 'Ctrl'+'Alt'+'SysRq'+key [09:13] also this seems pretty nice: http://www.slackwiki.org/SysRq [09:17] hmm .. the wikipedia article says: "The key combination consists of Alt, SysRq and another key.." [09:21] that's alt+print+ for most keyboards, but might be different for some [09:22] susundberg and yofel : thanks, that works. [09:23] Actually, my keyboard has even print 'Sys Rq'! [09:23] wow === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:50] can anyone help me with browsing my disks [09:50] mondi: Btw., though, when responding to a person, it's a good idea to prefix the answer with said user's nickname. xchat and possibly other clients have auto-completion for that ;-) [09:51] Fjodor, i am a bit rusty after not using irc for a while [09:51] mondi: But still, I can't help, whereas people in here might be able to tell you if there are known issues with nautilus at the moment ;-) [09:52] mondi: And no harm done - it's just more convenient that way ;-) [09:54] looks like this place is dad. i should come when its day time for US i guess [09:55] mondi, just ask a more specific question [09:56] rumpe1, i cant open any disks from places menu, it opens a blank window and tells me its not responding after sometime [09:57] mondi, where are the disks? remote? give more infos [09:58] rumpe1, its in my computer. [09:59] mondi, does mouting/listing via terminal work? [09:59] rumpe1, its already mounted. i just cant open it. i tried to open an external usb disk too. same problem [09:59] rumpe1, this happened after i installed 2.6.38-5-generic kernel [10:00] mondi, does it work with an older kernel? [10:00] rumpe1, it works for a while and then its the same thing again [10:01] rumpe1, the oldest i have is 2.6.38-3 [10:01] hm... have you checked smart-status? [10:01] rumpe1, no [10:01] rumpe1, how do i do that [10:02] gnome-disk-utility [10:03] also check dmesg and syslog logs.... [10:04] what filesystem(s) btw.? [10:05] let me check [10:08] rumpe1, it says Device is mounted and no online capability in fsck tool for file system [10:09] HPFS/NTFS [10:11] maybe the ntfs-partitions weren't shut down in the right way and are locked [10:11] you maybe have to use force-option for mounting them [10:12] ic [10:13] e.g. mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX /media/mountpoint -o force [10:13] i personally don't use ntfs... maybe there are some risks involved [10:14] i recommend to google "mount unclean ntfs ubuntu" ... or something like that .. for more informations [10:15] thanks [10:15] mondi, i am still not sure, if that's the reason for your problems [10:16] you shouldn't be able to mount them the usual way if that's the case [10:16] hm [10:31] morning === rmd__ is now known as rmd_ === Oer is now known as OerHeks === knitt1 is now known as knittl [13:50] hi [13:52] i have some questions concerning Natty and gtk3: is it possible to run gtk3 properly on Natty? Will i see 3 choices of sessions: classic, gnome3 and unity? [14:11] hype: I heard gnome3 was delayed but take that with a grain of salt === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:10] hmm [15:11] I dared to reboot :( [15:11] now only nouveau works [15:11] how can I disable akonadi from starting? I still have to manually stop it everytime [15:12] KuKuNut: I would believe setting StartServer=false in ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc will do that [15:14] yofel: thaks. will check it out. btw it's not shown in startup/session in syssettings. :( [15:14] yofel: .config? not .kde? [15:14] I believe it's not an autostart application but it's triggered by the kde startup [15:15] KuKuNut: akonadi isn't part of KDE - thus .config [15:15] yofel: interesting..all the while I thought it was a kde thing.. [15:15] well, it is somewhat, but doesn't depend on it === Steve[cug] is now known as SteveCUG [15:20] yofel: noticed phonon is no longer part of the iso. could you enlighten us why so? [15:21] o.O? I didn't notice that [15:21] yofel: well in thge manifest it's not [15:21] *the [15:22] ask in #kubuntu-devel, I don't know much about the iso seeds [15:24] Hi. I'm running 11.04. when running "apt-get update" all the lines has "Ign" prefix. havent gotten a update in days. [15:25] try to switch to another mirror [15:26] yofel: wait .. it looks like phonon is just a meta pkg now. jumped the gun here..but it's now phonon-backend-gstreamer [15:26] good idea, yofel. now i got 172 mb of updates [15:26] thanks === SteveCUG is now known as Steve[cug] [15:33] when will eric5 be in the repo? [15:35] KuKuNut: natty+1 probably [15:36] yofel: is there a ppa? [15:38] haven't looked for one [15:38] google didn't see any. [15:39] Use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas to search [15:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in #ubuntu-classroom in 20 minutes! [15:56] Hi. how can I add VirtualBox repository for Natty? (trying to registerimage and tells me the version i have -from natty -is outdated) [15:58] virtualbox-ose is up-to-date in natty repositories [15:58] I mean.. is there a repository for natty? (since the only one i get is from maverick) [15:58] won't be one until natty releases [15:59] charlie-tca, so, that means latest registerimage is not recognizing that one as latest... [15:59] lcb, in partner-repositories i guess [15:59] I have been using the ose version, and it works [15:59] rumpe1, only for maverick [16:00] Normally, the Virtualbox repository for puel version is not updated until final release. [16:00] lcb, ah... ok [16:00] charlie-tca, indeed - virtualbox. did you try to register an image? [16:00] I used it this morning [16:00] charlie-tca, registerimage? :o [16:01] no, I did not regtister an image, I just ran 4 installs in it [16:01] i just gor the jar file and it gives me that warning/error tough [16:01] ok... [16:03] charlie-tca, the ose works fine. only if you want to register and install an image you'll get that. so... wait :) [16:03] okay [16:33] anyone know how i change switch to (or from) compiz in natty ? [16:33] i swear it used to be in system-> preferences -> appearance, but i dont see it there any more. === om26er__ is now known as om26er [16:37] smoser: should be possible in classic desktop I think. Unity requires compiz [16:38] i'm in classic desktop. [16:39] i am without compiz right now, can't figure out how to turn it on [16:40] smoser, try compiz --replace ccp & disown from terminal [16:40] why disown ? just curious [16:40] (i know what it does) [16:40] smoser, well you can try it without pushing it into the background [16:41] coz_, so where is the setting that woudl do that ? (it did work, i'm in compiz now). how would i go back though ? [16:42] (and it seems to have fixed the drawing issues that were annoying me. [16:42] smoser, well when you logged into classic gnome , did you use the (no effects) option just classic gnome? [16:42] smoser, it probably should have started with the classic gnome session option [16:42] i think just classic desktop [16:43] smoser, not sure if anything has changed ,, I have to reinstall natty to find out [16:43] but i do have some prefs stored somewhere which woudl indicate that i dont want compiz [16:43] as i generally dont like it [16:43] smoser, I am a bit confused,, you dont want compiz running? [16:44] normally i dont. and it was not running. [16:44] smoser, if that's the case... log out then log into classic gnome ( no effects) session [16:44] how do I make the menu stop auto-hiding? [16:44] smoser, you can start compiz the same way even in that session or stop with with metacity --replace [16:44] but in 2d mode, since last upgradae i parts of windows left on the screen when i switch desktops. i wanted to see if compiz "fixed" that. it did. [16:45] coz_, thanks for the 'metacity --replace' and the help. [16:45] Fluttershy, open ccsm and the unity compiz plugin and disable autohide.. *i belive it is still in there [16:45] smoser: The prefs from 10.10 to control that are gone afaik so you may be getting compiz if you didn't choose the no effects version [16:45] smoser, no problem [16:45] Oh, you've solved it already :) [16:46] well, s/solved/worked-around/ [16:46] thanks all. [16:48] coz_: do I need to add the repo? [16:49] Fluttershy, for ccsm? I dont believe so just sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager [16:49] coz_: already tried [16:49] says it can't find the package [16:49] o0 [16:49] mmm [16:49] Fluttershy, open synaptic packages manager hit Settings/repositories [16:50] Fluttershy, see if any are disabled in the first and second tabs [16:50] Fluttershy: Canonical Partners is unchecked, as are Unsupported Updates and the Maverick CD [16:51] Fluttershy, this was an upgrade from maverick? [16:51] yeah [16:51] Fluttershy, well the maverick stuff is useless so dont tick that [16:51] couldn't manage to get a clean install to go through [16:51] Fluttershy, ah I see [16:51] so did a clean Maverick install and upgraded instead [16:52] Fluttershy, well if you cant find it in the repositories try here http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/compizconfig-settings-manager [16:52] there, installing [16:52] ah ok [17:02] coz_: got it, thanks [17:02] Fluttershy, cool [17:20] hi there! is ubuntu natty completely broken? after logging in unity evn I can see only wallpaper [17:24] nekohayo, that has happened to me several times... right click desktop create a launcher for the terminal [17:24] nekohayo, then in the terminal gnome-panel & disown === viv`d is now known as vivid [17:24] nekto0n you mean [17:25] sorry [17:25] :) [17:25] nekto0n, that has happened to me several times... right click desktop create a launcher for the terminal [17:25] nekohayo, then in the terminal gnome-panel & disown [17:26] nekto0n, that is for classic gnome.. it may work in unity not sure ,, I havent tried it [17:26] nekto0n, which video card do you have ... nvidia? [17:27] coz_, intel i965 [17:27] ah ok [17:30] coz_, i'll reboot and give it another try [17:30] ok === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as M0hi [17:52] I am trying to install natty from a live session but the installer just sits there with busy cursor after pressing forward [17:52] can connman applet connect to hidden AP? seems to have been broken [17:55] soreau, how long? [17:55] e01: forever [17:55] soreau: images are broken still [17:55] they should be working tomorrow [17:55] yes I'm looking for the fix [17:56] I patched in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/572185/ but it's still doing the same thing [17:59] soreau, the mini net installer is working [17:59] vivid: How do you use that? [17:59] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso [17:59] burn it and put it in the cd drive [18:00] vivid: Will it be a full blown install after updates? [18:00] yes, it simply installs from the network instead of a cd live session [18:00] if you have a fast connection.....it will be faster than downloading the cd installer and then upgrading [18:01] substitue installer-i386 for installer-amd64 in the link if you want a 64bit system === Afwas_ is now known as Afwas [18:46] Is this the unstable channel? [18:53] Is it only here or did X.org break in the last update? [18:57] MK`: this is the channel for the development release [18:58] Ok. I was wondering how well GNOME Shell/Nautilus works in 11.04 [18:58] natty won't have gnome3 [19:03] unity sure looks like it borrowed some of the ideas :p [19:10] Ah; I use 10.10 now, if I upgrade when time comes will it cease working? [19:11] as I don't use it I can't give an answer to that, but there's a PPA from the gnom3-team with packages for gnome3 [19:11] will the legacy panel system be avail in natty ?? by default ? and is unity a good replacement till now or it needs more work in natty+1 [19:12] noob: gnome 2.32 will be availble as classic gnome by default [19:12] I just switched to Ubuntu last week after over a decade of Windows so I am not too attached to any GUI yet, I was just curious [19:13] ah, I can't really give you any pointers there as I myself use KDE, not gnome [19:13] yofel, but gnome 2.32 is shipped in maverick .. i talk about natty [19:13] Alright [19:13] noob: natty ships gnome 2.32 too [19:13] I used KDE once in Mandrake Linux a few years ago [19:13] why not gnome 3.0 [19:13] noob: no idea, the developers decided not ot [19:13] *not to [19:13] but I couldn't get Linux to recognize my modem so I switched back to windows [19:14] MK`: true, old 56k modems rarely have linux drivers, and the kernel developers don't really care about those [19:14] yeah [19:14] so natty will be shipped with gnome 2.32 and unity ? am i right [19:14] mine here doesn't work either, thankfully I don't need it [19:14] noob: yes [19:19] anyone here using emacs and anything.el? Since I installed anything.el, emacs is segfaulting left and right for me [19:23] yofel: afaik, only the crappy "winmodems" had problems with drivers, and I think even those were sorted eventually. A real modem doesn't need a driver beyond the standard serial port driver [19:23] no idea, I'm talking about the integrated one in my thinkpad [19:24] I have no idea either, I stopped caring about modems around 1999 ;) [19:24] I only have a use for it when I'm in another country, but then I just use windows [19:25] but iirc, vendors started to get cheap and stopped supplying real modems and just used what amounted to a sound card with a phone jack attached and supplied software to implement a virtual modem [19:27] which is the case for mine I think [20:23] anyone tried nvidia with the new xupdates ? [20:24] I didn't see any X updates today [20:25] well [20:25] the updates of a while ago [20:26] nvidia 270.29 works with x-server 1.10rc2 [20:27] hmm [20:27] any idea why I'm only getting File (with just Close) for all programs in the menu? === guntbert is now known as whoelse === whoelse is now known as guntbert === guntbert is now known as whoelse === whoelse is now known as guntbert === guntbert is now known as whoelse === whoelse is now known as guntbert [21:16] evening [21:17] hi BUGabundo [21:18] i need help with a booting error [21:19] Hello, BUGabundo [21:19] hey guys [21:19] cg2916: shall we guess or will you tell us some details? [21:19] details [21:19] I think guessing is more fun [21:19] i burned natty alpha 2 to a live cd [21:20] i see the purple screen with the two icons, i hit enter, then i hit enter on Try Without Making CHanges [21:20] it freezes [21:20] * charlie-tca is braindead after this weekend. Can't get nothing to work again [21:20] cg2916: what video card do you have? [21:21] hang on [21:23] charlie-tca: it appears as Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chopset Family under display adapters [21:23] chipset* [21:23] I thought intel worked now [21:23] guess not [21:24] does the video card matter THAT much? [21:25] When you start the cd, hit a key to bring up the menu, select the language, then hit F6, highlight nomodeset, and hit enter twice. See if that helps [21:25] yes, it matters that much [21:26] You should see two symbols at the bottom of the purple screen, hit a key then [21:26] ok [21:26] let me restart [21:27] Of course, there is always the wait few days things, too, since alpha3 will be coming out this week [21:34] i didn [21:34] it didn't work [21:35] charlire-tca; didn't work [21:35] charlie-tca: didn't work [21:37] anybody here [21:37] I don't know then, except to try tomorrows natty image. [21:37] ok [21:38] i'll re-burn the disk [21:38] It has more stuff that works [21:38] will today's work? [21:38] Just don't burn the image from today [21:38] is it broken? [21:38] no, todays image is broken [21:38] ok [21:38] yesterday's? i'm really eager [21:39] nope, broken all week [21:39] wow, what's wrong? [21:41] do the daily images really provide anything new? [21:45] It is a development version, so, yes, many things change constantly [21:45] from alpha2 to alpha3, things are actually working [21:45] ok. i was wondering if i should zsync with the risk of possible lockout [21:45] the dock has launchers in it, the menu might be working, etc [21:45] yup, zsync works well. [21:45] I use it everyday [21:46] but, if i zsync the daily image, won't i get problems? [21:46] nope [21:46] well, for this week? [21:46] It just won't install today [21:46] oh, ok [21:46] well, thanks [21:46] btw, how to you like ubuntu [21:46] it will still sync, zsync doesn't care if it installs or not [21:46] heh, I don't [21:47] I use Xubuntu, but I test both Ubuntu and Xubuntu images [21:47] ok [21:47] :-) [21:47] i'd prefer GNOME [21:48] Then you can use the "classic desktop" session when you login [21:49] ok [21:49] now, how will i know if the daily image works tomorrow [21:53] charlie-tca: hello? [21:55] hey, jeiworth [21:56] h [21:56] hi [21:56] have you tried the alpha 2 yet? [21:57] no, actually i am lagging behind in the 11.04, haven't tried anything yet *fg* [21:58] ok, so 10.10 [22:00] cg2916: won't know without trying it, unless you ask me [22:00] ok [22:00] i'll come here [22:00] The other workaround is to install 10.10, which works, then upgrade it to natty [22:07] ok === rmd__ is now known as rmd_ [22:24] hey folks, sun-java is stuck at update 22, there's a lot of fixes in 24, is that gonna be pushed soon [22:25] is there a way to change the clock to 24h? I can't find an option in dconf-editor [22:26] er, never mind, found it [22:27] kim0: maverick/partner shows 6.24 here [22:28] yofel: I'm on natty [22:28] um, how do I enabled that [22:29] kim0: add maverick partner in software properties, natty/partner is empty until release [22:29] if you need the deb line: [22:29] deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner [22:30] yofel: thanks :) [22:31] wonder if that's a wise decision [22:31] I'm left with security holes, and now I wonder if I'll remember reverting back to natty [22:32] kim0, well you should easily remember that since you are putting that repo in manually... yes? [22:32] kim0: you don't need to change it, just add both - the natty version will be greater than the maverick version [22:32] yofel: good idea ;) === chris|| is now known as chris| === soreau_ is now known as soreau === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX