[00:43] <johnny77> if dhclient recieved a IP address from the router is there a way to clear that IP address and have it search for another?
[00:52] <Cheri703> I think so, let me google
[00:54] <Cheri703> is there a specific reason you need a different ip johnny77 ?
[00:56] <johnny77> Cheri703: I was able to get internet earlier, but I rebooted and now I can't. I thought maybe if I can force a renew maybe that is why.
[00:56] <Cheri703> hmm...ok
[00:56] <Cheri703> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435851
[00:56] <Cheri703> might not get a new one though, due to router things
[00:56] <Cheri703> possibly setting a static one might help
[00:56] <johnny77> I tried that earlier too...
[00:58] <Cheri703> :/
[01:03] <johnny77> Cheri703: The worse part is when I got it to work before, I was just messing around with stuff and it started to work... not sure what I did. :/
[01:04] <JackyAlcine> Awh, I miss seidos.
[01:04] <Cheri703> yeah johnny77, that always sucks, perhaps deleting your config file? letting it figure it out again?
[01:06] <johnny77> JackyAlcine: Has he just not been around today?
[01:06] <JackyAlcine> \o/
[01:06]  * JackyAlcine hugs seidos
[01:06] <johnny77> JackyAlcine: Ask and you shall receive!!
[01:06] <johnny77> Cheri703: where is the config file?
[01:06] <Cheri703> uhm....
[01:07] <Cheri703> one sec
[01:07]  * seidos hugs JackyAlcine 
[01:07] <seidos> what's going on?
[01:07] <JackyAlcine> I said that I missed you.
[01:07] <JackyAlcine> And you came back. ;D
[01:08] <Cheri703> /etc/network/interfaces
[01:08] <seidos> \o/
[01:08] <Cheri703> open that and take a look
[01:08] <Cheri703> johnny77: ^^
[01:55] <johnny77> paultag: you around?
[02:03] <johnny77> going to eat bbl
[03:11] <johnny77> wow it's quite
[03:12] <tta> because youare timide
[03:32] <tta> the youth of today is sleeping... who will build tomorrow?
[03:39] <JackyAlcine> I'm not.
[03:39] <tta> so ?
[03:40] <JackyAlcine> I'm trying to build tomorrow.
[03:42] <tta> when i install ubuntu 10.10 after the choice of the language it doesn't go futher
[03:49] <tta> you see people are sleeping
[03:52] <UndiFineD> tta: did you md5sum check ?
[03:52] <tta> md5 hash yes
[03:53] <paultag> hey johnny77
[03:53] <tta> salut
[03:54] <paultag> howdy tta
[03:54] <paultag> (almost like ta-ta)
[03:55] <tta> no t-t-a like thêta
[03:55] <tta> (in french ; maths symbol
[03:55] <paultag> ahha
[04:21] <r4y> Hello
[04:21] <r4y> I have a question and then I will go away
[04:22] <JackyAlcine> I mean, you're welcome to stay, r4y.
[04:22] <JackyAlcine> But what's up?
[04:22] <r4y> I found out I can have two versions of wine installed on Ubuntu using Playonlinux
[04:22] <JackyAlcine> Pretty useful, isn't it?
[04:22] <r4y> So I downloaded Playonlinux and it was easy to install wine 1.0
[04:23] <r4y> but I don't know how to use wine 1.0 or the other wine when I want to
[04:23] <r4y> I love the idea
[04:23] <r4y> I can't wait to try this out
[04:23] <JackyAlcine> r4y: Ah, that's the tricky part; you'd have to configure each application specifically in the Wine configuration.
[04:24] <r4y> OK
[04:24] <r4y> I will look some more
[04:24] <r4y> I wish I had that link, I looked and looked through my links for that link
[04:25] <r4y> I imagine. Tool, manage wine versions is where to go
[04:25] <JackyAlcine> Indeed; I'll give you an accurate answer when my Ubuntu distro with Wine on it starts up.
[04:26] <r4y> Well that can't be it. It only has the option to remove wine 1.0
[04:26] <r4y> Unless I missed something under tools, manage Wine versions, so I will look else where
[04:29] <r4y> I think I found it, but I need to run a test
[04:31] <r4y> Well, I don't think that worked
[04:31] <r4y> Ya, it didn't change
[04:32] <r4y> I will say what I did
[04:32] <r4y> just a sec
[04:33] <r4y> settings, general, environment, I click on the drop down box and picked Wine 1.0, then I closed Playonlinux for changes to take place then opened Playonlinux, then I opened wine from applications
[04:33] <r4y> So
[04:34] <r4y> I don't know what to do
[04:34] <r4y> I thought before I would be able to open Wine 1.0 inside Playonlinux
[04:41] <r4y> Was I suppose to download Wine 1.0 from somewhere from source and have Playonlinux install that?, or is Playonlinux like ADD/REMOVE, Ubuntu Software Center and Synaptic Package Manager?
[04:42] <r4y> With the exception of owned games and software of coarse
[04:45] <r4y> I am guessing I need to download the source package of Wine 1.0 then
[04:46] <r4y> OK, downloaded and extracted
[04:46] <r4y> Now what?
[04:52] <r4y> If I have to compile wine 1.0 then I can try. I have compiled a few things, but I am some what new to it.
[04:52] <r4y> I had read some of the readme text file a while ago.
[04:53] <r4y> I need to go make salad for a little though
[05:03] <JackyAlcine> r4y: You want a certain version of Wine to run for a certain app?
[05:27] <r4y> Part of what I want is to learn, and the other is to run an emulator called Meka to play shooting games with the mouse as the lasergun. Meka doesn't run the ways I want it to under the latest wine, plus it would be nice to have the latest version of wine.
[05:27] <r4y> Learning is my main goal though
[05:27] <r4y> I think I understand what to do, but I could be wrong
[05:28] <r4y> compile wine using the terminal
[05:28] <r4y> then place the binary under, what a sec
[05:29] <r4y> I think I am wrong now after looking at:
[05:29] <r4y> "/home/ray/.PlayOnLinux/WineVersions/1.0/usr/bin'"
[05:30] <r4y> As it has wine under it
[05:30] <r4y> but is it run-able?, I will mess with it for a little
[05:32] <r4y> OK, I don't know what to do.
[05:32] <r4y> That path has wine in it
[05:33] <r4y> But the file called wine doesn't execute
[05:33] <r4y> So I must need to do something else.
[05:38] <r4y> I must have done something wrong:
[05:38] <r4y> http://www.playonlinux.com/en/manual.html
[05:38] <r4y> there it has browse to the installer. That didn't happen for me, so I should start all over
[05:40] <r4y> Should I just use Playonlinux from Ubuntu Software Center?, because it says an updated version is available.
[05:45] <r4y> After installing wine again it doesn't appear on Playonlinux when opening, nor did it before. It only appears under manage wine versions and like 2 drop down boxes and the plugins path which was under the path I pasted earlier
[05:46] <r4y> So I can't run it with the run button shown on the first window when Playonlinux pops up when opening Playonlinux
[05:47] <r4y> I tell you exavtly what I did
[05:49] <r4y> I opened Playonlinux, then I went to tools, manage wine versions, and from the available versions of wine listed, I picked Wine 1.0, then it said it was downloading it, then it said it extracted it, then it said it was installing it, and when it was done it said it was installed.
[05:49] <r4y> Now what?
[05:50] <holstein> hey r4y
[05:50] <holstein> whats going on here?
[05:50] <holstein> i just got on and notice the scroll-back ;)
[05:51] <bioterror> r4y, must be really good games, if you spend so much time hustling with wine
[06:32] <r4y> Like I said, for me it's mostly about learning, but it's not like I don't enjoy things on Ubuntu.
[06:34] <r4y> I have played the game Gangster Town using Meka on Hardy Heron with the mouse as the lasergun using Wine 1.0
[06:34] <r4y> It worked
[06:35] <r4y> Fullscreen works, the mouse works really well, the sound is great, but the latest wine on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx doesn't work well with Meka
[06:36] <holstein> r4y: who makes Meka?
[06:37] <holstein> you should try and contact them, and let them know you would be interested in a linux version
[06:37] <holstein> linux, or wine support
[06:39] <r4y> In fact to barely get Meka to work under the latest wine on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx I had to configure Wines resolution to get Meka to work. I tried different versions of Meka. I tried compiling Meka from source, but Fullscreen is not as big as it was as with using the Windows version under Hardy Heron. The linux version of Meka also barely ran if sound was enabled, but sound disabled it worked...
[06:39] <r4y> ...good but like I said fullscreen was basically windowed.
[06:40] <holstein> ah, so there is a linux verion
[06:40] <r4y> They are looking for a maintainer for having Meka ready for Linux.
[06:40] <holstein> whats the issue with it?
[06:40] <holstein> oh, so they dont have a linux version?
[06:40] <r4y> I just said, there's no sound and fullscreen is windowed.
[06:40] <holstein> r4y: i wasnt sure what that was in reference to
[06:41] <bioterror> I had couple of years ago real MegaDrive II ; )
[06:41] <r4y> It would be even better if Kega Fusion had the same feature as Meka where the mouse can be used as the lasergun
[06:41] <bioterror> but I gave it away, actually I never liked Sega's
[06:42] <r4y> HerzogZwei is one of my favorite Genesis games
[06:42] <r4y> It's Herzog Zwei.
[06:43] <r4y> O, OK, source can mean for Windows as well then?
[06:43] <r4y> Sorry
[06:45] <r4y> Well, I could see if other versions of wine can be installed by Playonlinux that work, or I could download the latest stable version of Playonlinux and try from there I suppose
[06:46] <r4y> I am sorry, I can't be running the most current version of wine, I am running Ubuntu 10.04.
[06:46] <holstein> i would say try going forward first
[06:46] <r4y> What's the latest release of Ubuntu right now?
[06:46] <holstein> 10.04 is the latest long term support release
[06:46] <holstein> 8.04 was the last long term support
[06:47] <holstein> 10.10 is the latest
[06:47] <r4y> Right, which is why I have 10.04 installed
[06:47] <r4y> Not that I know why it matters
[06:47] <r4y> Maybe it doesn't
[06:47] <holstein> longer support?
[06:47] <r4y> How much longer?
[06:47] <holstein> 3 years
[06:47] <holstein> 5 for the server?
[06:47] <r4y> OK
[06:48] <r4y> Well, it couldn't hurt to try, I have 3 hard drives
[06:48] <holstein> try?
[06:48] <holstein> 10.10?
[06:48] <r4y> I have everything backed up as well.
[06:48] <holstein> probably a PPA for wine
[06:48] <holstein> for 10.04
[06:49] <r4y> I have 10.04 on all 3, but I want to try out more versions on Linux someday
[06:49] <holstein> all 3 ?
[06:49] <holstein> hard drives?
[06:50] <holstein> in different machines?
[06:50] <r4y> I wish they made this easier. Can I have 2 versions of wine without Playonlinux
[06:50] <r4y> no 3 hard drive one machine
[06:51] <r4y> I also have Windows XP on another computer with it's own hard drive so I have 4 hard drives
[06:51] <holstein> you have 3 installs of lucid?
[06:51] <holstein> interesting
[06:51] <r4y> Yep
[06:51] <holstein> in dont know about playonlinux
[06:52] <holstein> i usually just try wine
[06:52] <holstein> and look on wineHQ
[06:52] <r4y> 1 for a back up of everything, 1 to experiment on and just in case one of the other 2 hard drives dies, and one to use most of the time.
[06:53] <r4y> Cool, I will
[06:54] <r4y> I didn't realize this, but Playonlinux is a frontend for wine:
[06:54] <r4y> http://wiki.winehq.org/PlayOnLinux
[06:55] <r4y> I thought it was an independent program made for specific games and programs to work on linux
[06:55] <r4y> but
[06:55] <r4y> it does so using Wine which I didn't know
[06:56] <holstein> we cant have that
[06:56] <holstein> wine is the best we have
[06:56] <holstein> and some things work great
[06:56] <holstein> some things work great, and then break
[06:56] <holstein> something things never work
[06:56] <holstein> im not a big gamer
[06:56] <holstein> but i try and let companies know i use linux
[06:57] <r4y> I've never played online games like Warcraft
[06:57] <holstein> pretty sure they could care less
[06:57] <r4y> It might come in handy in the future to know how to use Linux
[06:58] <r4y> on the job
[06:58] <holstein> well, its not going to hurt anything
[06:58] <r4y> I've never worked on computer though
[06:58] <holstein> not going to help you play commercial games though
[06:58] <holstein> til more of them start supporting linux
[06:59] <holstein> IF we see steam or something like that for linux
[06:59] <holstein> that will be nice
[06:59] <holstein> the OSX version is a step in the right direction i think
[06:59] <r4y> I mean I put this computer together and so forth. I mean I connected the motherboard to this computers case and connected the hardware within it and so forth to be specific
[06:59] <holstein> and the ubuntu software store might be an answer to this as well
[07:01] <r4y> I was told mac sucks compared to Linux, however my uncle told me that mac makes there hardware to work more directly with their software, and I don't know where he got that info from.
[07:01] <holstein> you can see mac machines at bestbuys now
[07:01] <r4y> I understand mac is like unix based or something like linux is or something
[07:01] <holstein> and lots of other places
[07:01] <holstein> i dont like it
[07:01] <holstein> but dont take anyones word for anything ;)
[07:02] <holstein> computers suck
[07:02] <r4y> I am just saying.
[07:02] <r4y> Right right
[07:02] <r4y> Windows has it's ups and downs like Linux and Mac
[07:02] <holstein> apple generally has a smaller pool of hardware to support
[07:02] <holstein> since you can only run OSX on apple hardware
[07:03] <holstein> *suppoed to anyways
[07:03] <r4y> Linux is great because it basically doesn't get viruses as far as I have read for the most part or something
[07:03] <holstein> lin and win need to try and support more hardware
[07:03] <r4y> Although
[07:03] <holstein> well, linux does anyways
[07:04] <r4y> Anytime we download source from a questionable source, we could be asking for it
[07:04] <r4y> That's why I have a hard drive for experimenting.
[07:04] <holstein> eh, anytime you get online, you could be 'asking for it'
[07:05] <holstein> i say, research, and do what makes you feel comfortable
[07:05] <r4y> Not that I will absolutely not install something bad that can lurk in the background undetected. How would I know
[07:05] <r4y> ?
[07:05] <r4y> keyloggers, etc
[07:05] <r4y> I try to download from trusted websites
[07:06] <r4y> I think I should try a wine IRC chat room.
[07:06] <holstein> most of what i use is in the official ubuntu repositories
[07:06] <r4y> This is a chat room?
[07:06] <holstein> r4y: the wine channel was a bit dead
[07:06] <bioterror> this is IRC Channel
[07:06] <holstein> when i was looking
[07:06] <holstein> but, go for it
[07:06] <bioterror> on irc we have channels :D
[07:07] <r4y> I do the same. I use from Ubuntu software Center and Synaptic Package Manager the most
[07:07] <Cheri703> r4y, some of the general discussion would be better suited in #ubuntu-beginners-team it is the off topic channel, since this isn't specifically support related
[07:07] <r4y> Well, then what is a chat room?
[07:07] <Cheri703> if you have specific questions, then feel free to ask them here
[07:07] <r4y> OK
[07:07] <bioterror> r4y, try to avoid compiling from the source, if you have to, make a package and use dpkg to install it
[07:07] <bioterror> liek using checkinstall for example
[07:08] <r4y> checkinstall?
[07:08] <r4y> I recently used alien to convert an rpm package to deb for a game called tong
[07:09] <r4y> I understand how to compile a little bit this is what I know
[07:09] <r4y> "./configure"
[07:09] <r4y> "make"
[07:09] <r4y> "sudo make install"
[07:09] <bioterror> that's wrong :D
[07:09] <bioterror> sudo checkinstall
[07:09] <r4y> hold up
[07:11] <r4y> what's that?
[07:11] <aveilleux> exit
[07:11] <bioterror> r4y, apt-cache show checkinstall
[07:12] <r4y> I mean what does it do?
[07:12] <bioterror> it does a .deb, .rpm or what ever
[07:12] <bioterror> and installs it using the package manager
[07:12] <bioterror> if you install from source just "sudo make install"
[07:12] <bioterror> you cant remove it easily, or upgrade it
[07:13] <bioterror> but when you use a software like checkinstall, you can do it
[07:13] <holstein> bioterror: thats a good tip :)
[07:14] <r4y> Hmm, I am thinking I should look it up on Google to understand better.
[07:14] <bioterror> there's really no idea to do "make install" if you're having an intelligent package manager like dpkg
[07:14] <r4y> Thank you, that's sounds great
[07:14] <holstein> or install it
[07:14] <holstein> and check out man checkinstall
[07:15] <r4y> So dpkg will or won't remember what's installed?
[07:15] <bioterror> if you dont use dpkg for installing software, it wont handle it
[07:16] <r4y> Isn't aptitude a frontend for dpkg?
[07:16] <bioterror> yes
[07:16] <bioterror> something like that
[07:16] <r4y> Not needed though, right?
[07:18] <r4y> Sorry, I think you already answered that question
[07:19] <_jade> hi,all,i use 10.10,and i want uninstall the openjdk in /usr/lib/jvm,what can i do?i hava uninstall it at software center,but nothing
[07:21] <r4y> Thank you bioterror, holstein, JackyAlcine, and Cheri703. Bye
[07:21] <bioterror> jade, open terminal
[07:21] <bioterror> jade are you about to install sun-java6?
[07:21] <bioterror> the "propietary" java?
[07:22] <_jade> i hava install jdk  from oracle.com
[07:23] <bioterror> oh no
[07:23] <_jade> i'm a java developer
[07:23] <bioterror> did you get something newer than: sun-java6/sun-java6-jre_6.24-1build0.10.10.1_all.deb
[07:24] <r4y> I found this:(THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH)::);)
[07:24] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2356.html
[07:24] <_jade> i install jdk-6u24-linux-i586.bin,a uncompress file
[07:25] <bioterror> jade, I would suggest you to remove it, then I would like to suggest you to enable partner repository
[07:25] <bioterror> and then you have to run two commands
[07:25] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-{jre,bin,plugin,fonts}
[07:25] <bioterror> and then: sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-{jre,jre-lib,jre-headless} icedtea{-6-jre-cacao,6-plugin}
[07:26] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[07:27] <_jade> thanks,i try
[08:15] <r4y> bye
[08:17] <r4y> I found out there is a playonlinux irc channel
[08:57] <v0lic0> Is it possible to find some help with an Intrepid problem?
[08:57] <v0lic0> Actually, it's more of a virtualbox/repo problem I think.
[08:57] <seidos> not really :|
[08:57] <seidos> at least from me, v0lic0
[08:58] <seidos> why not upgrade?
[08:58] <seidos> working
[08:58] <v0lic0> Well, I'm actually on B|T 4 r2 and I believe it's built on Intrepid.
[08:59] <v0lic0> And I've been researching this for about three days now.
[08:59] <seidos> you aren't making sense
[08:59] <seidos> alcohol?
[08:59] <v0lic0> What?
[08:59]  * seidos plays a flute
[08:59] <v0lic0> Back Track 4 r2.
[09:00] <v0lic0> It's a distro for pen-testing built on top of Intrepid.
[09:01] <seidos> not sure what i can do to help
[09:01] <v0lic0> But every since I've upgraded to the r2 with the 2.6.35.8 kernel I've been unable to get virtualbox to install.
[09:01] <seidos> googol
[09:02] <v0lic0> Yes, hence the 'And I've been researching this for about three days now' part.
[09:02] <v0lic0> Thank you for time at any rate seidos.
[09:10] <duanedesign> v0lic0: what distro are you using?
[09:10] <duanedesign> Back Track?
[09:11] <seidos> r2d2?
[09:11] <v0lic0> Sorry duane, I was talking to my wife. lol
[09:11] <v0lic0> Yes, BT4 r2.
[09:12] <seidos> Beginners Team 4
[09:12] <seidos> fix my dharmawheel please
[09:12] <seidos> if !right: fix()
[09:14] <seidos> i need cheese to work
[09:14] <seidos> oh yeah
[09:14] <seidos> i want to move all this to video conferencing
[09:16] <duanedesign> seidos: what?
[09:17] <seidos> duanedesign: more specific?
[09:46] <seidos> why is my website rendering fine in chromium, but not firefox?
[09:46] <bioterror> becouse your html skillz sucks :(
[09:47] <bioterror> that's the life of layout larry
[09:47] <seidos> align = "center"
[09:47] <seidos> happening in <head> and <body>
[09:47] <bioterror> to wonder why something works okay on firefox, and other looks worse and then again something looks good on ie which is the "mainstream" browser
[09:47] <seidos> thanks for the non-help
[09:47] <head_victim> Don't feel too bad, the wiki.u.c has issues as well.
[09:48] <seidos> i don't care about IE
[09:48] <seidos> i don't even have it
[09:48] <JoeMaverickSett> seidos: supposed to be "text-align: center;" in css, iirc
[09:48] <bioterror> seidos, dont you worry about firefox, becouse chrome is the new firefox!
[09:48] <seidos> i didn't get the memo
[09:48] <seidos> JoeMaverickSett: i'll try that
[09:51] <seidos> what skills?
[10:10] <seidos> JoeMaverickSett: didn't work in firefox.
[10:10] <seidos> it doesn't really matter, it's just an interesting puzzle
[10:10] <seidos> anybody who goes to my site probably will use chrome or chromium anyway...
[10:13] <seidos> actually, chromium hasn't been working with video, i need to replace someone at googol so they can be free to do other things?
[10:13] <seidos> or what?
[10:13] <seidos> oops
[10:13] <seidos> i'm dumb
[10:39] <s-fox> =)
[12:00] <fatharrahman> hi UndiFineD i received  your email thanks hi yofel do you remember me lol
[12:05] <fatharrahman> hi
[12:06] <fatharrahman> am not quitting you xchat laying
[12:23] <psychosematic> Him guys, i'm first year social science degree and i need some help understanding some of the concepts can anyone help me ?
[12:25] <AbhijiT> :-o
[12:25] <AbhijiT> psychosematic, this is ubuntu support channel
[12:25] <seidos> psychosematic: pm me
[12:27] <AbhijiT> :-/
[13:15] <johnny77> I've installed a Ubuntu 10.10 CLI, then installed Fluxbox. It was working last night when I turned it off, but now I'm getting a initramfs error when I boot. Anyone have any suggestions?
[13:16] <bioterror> and the whole error is:
[13:18] <johnny77> bioterror: let me boot
[13:19] <johnny77> bioterror: I get a mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory
[13:20] <johnny77> bioterror: then the same with /sys & /proc
[13:21] <bioterror> did you run a proper shutdown?
[13:23] <johnny77> bioterror: short answer no.
[13:24] <bioterror> you just pressed power button for ~5secs, johnny77?
[13:25] <johnny77> bioterror: had to. it froze up on me. I know better not to, but nothing would respond
[13:25] <bioterror> boot livecd, and run fsck for the partitions
[13:26] <bioterror> probably something is broken
[13:26] <johnny77> would it matter if it was a live cd for 10.04? Can I do with Alternative CD? or should i make one for 10.10?
[13:27] <bioterror> doesnt matter
[13:32] <philinux> johnny77: for an unresponsive system try this in future. http://kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
[13:40] <johnny77> bioterror: I typed: fsck /dev/sd1 and recieved an error - superblock could not be read.
[13:41] <philinux> johnny77: put sudo in front of command
[13:42] <philinux> also it would be sda1 or sdb1 etc
[13:42] <johnny77> philinux: thank you. it's cdhecking now.
[13:43] <johnny77> *checking
[13:45] <philinux> johnny77: If I run this I usually run it - sudo fsck -v /dev/xxxx the -v is for verbose mode
[13:46] <johnny77> philinux: what does verbose mode do?
[13:46] <bioterror> man fsck
[13:47] <philinux> johnny77: more info on the process thats all
[13:48] <philinux> johnny77: did you read my previous link on reisub
[13:48] <johnny77> philinux: yes
[13:49] <philinux> johnny77: good. that should stop you having to use the big off button. Which does cause problems for any OS
[14:02] <johnny77> bioterror philinux: thank you guys. I got it back up!!! YAY! :D
[14:02] <philinux> johnny77: nice
[14:02] <philinux> johnny77: what caused the lock up in the first place
[14:04] <johnny77> philinux: not sure. I was installing something... can't remember what and it just locked up. :|  It's an old laptop so it could just be old RAM or something.
[14:04] <philinux> ah ok.
[14:39] <Fvic> what does apport command does??
[14:43] <wolfpack> Fvic: Apport is tool in ubuntu  which helps in collecting information about a package and report it to lunchpad. It is used for filing bugs
[15:04] <Fvic> wolfpack, if i wish to find information about diff package,how to use this command?
[15:04] <Fvic> wolfpack, is it specially for bugs and can not used elsewhere??
[15:15] <philinux> Fvic: see here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[15:16] <wolfpack> Fvic: You can save the information about the package but the report will be mainly about the crash . hardware, ubuntu verion etc.
[15:17] <charlie-tca> Fvic: might want to check out the     rmadison     application for package information
[15:18] <charlie-tca> rmadison will give all the package details, withouth the crash report information
[15:22] <Fvic> charlie-tca, how to use this rmadison??
[15:23] <charlie-tca> open a terminal, type           rmadison
[15:23] <charlie-tca> oops
[15:23] <charlie-tca> rmadison PACKAGENAME
[15:23] <Fvic> charlie-tca, ok..thanks
[15:23] <charlie-tca> or even      rmadison --help
[15:23] <johnny77> I'm having trouble setting up my wireless card. I know it works, because I've got it to work, but if I reboot it start to not work again and give me a "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." error when I run sudo dhclient wlan0
[15:24] <Fvic> wolfpack,thanks
[15:35] <s-fox> Hello mohi :)
[15:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hello s-fox. how are you today?
[15:35] <s-fox> Not bad, how are you ?
[15:36] <IAmNotThatGuy> s-fox, Just now came back from office. (:"
[15:36] <s-fox> (=
[15:37]  * IAmNotThatGuy thinks s-fox is free for about a week :P
[15:37] <s-fox> I am free?
[15:37] <s-fox> For what IAmNotThatGuy ?
[15:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> I am seeing you daily in here s-fox. which is unusual :P
[15:41] <s-fox> I was busy for a few days last week IAmNotThatGuy .
[15:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah! okies
[15:44] <philinux> We log in but we not really here !
[15:45] <s-fox> Naturally ;)
[15:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> YAY PHILINUX
[15:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> sup philinux ?
[15:45]  * philinux is in the ether
[15:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> :o
[15:55] <rakshasa> When I boot ubuntu sometimes my graphics are all weird. When i restart the problem solved itself, I already reinstalled and recongifured Xserver Xorg but that doesn't help
[15:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> rakshasa, how you re-configured xorg? can you please explain me?
[15:57] <rakshasa> Default
[15:58] <rakshasa> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[15:58] <rakshasa> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:58] <rakshasa> Thats all i did
[15:58] <rakshasa> The problem recurred less after that
[15:58] <rakshasa> but still
[15:59] <rakshasa> Sometimes
[16:00] <rakshasa> I got an Intel Graphics 4500HDM
[16:00] <rakshasa> Icons sometimes get all weird
[16:01] <rakshasa> When I restart the problem goes away, maybe its hardware specific
[16:02] <rakshasa> I just installed Ubuntu over a week ago so pretty new to it
[16:02] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/671015
[16:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 671015 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Intel GMA 4500MHD" [Undecided,New]
[16:02] <holstein> maybe ?
[16:03] <philinux> rakshasa: try running with compiz turned off
[16:04] <rakshasa> I'll try it
[16:04] <philinux> rakshasa: desktop effects or visual effects set to none
[16:04] <jledbetter> rakshasa, IAmNotThatGuy had to dash but said ' tell him to try booting with a Live CD, copy its xorg contents to etc/x11/'  I don't use xorg but pasting what he said in case that'll help
[16:06] <rakshasa> I have already booted with Live!, the problem iconically does not occur when booting live
[16:07] <rakshasa> Ill try copying the contents
[16:07] <holstein> rakshasa: see what kernel the live CD is using
[16:07] <holstein> uname -a in a terminal
[16:08] <rakshasa> Tnx for the help
[16:10] <rakshasa> Another problem: I disable my touchpad trough the xinput property setter
[16:11] <rakshasa> But if I restart the set properties did not persist
[16:11] <rakshasa> :p
[16:12] <holstein> i say, choose your battles
[16:12] <holstein> maybe, deal with the video first, and then move on to the touchpad
[16:13] <rakshasa> I'm reading up on configuration of Xorg at the same time :p
[17:26] <s-fox> Hello DiegoTc
[17:26] <DiegoTc> hi s-fox
[17:27] <s-fox> wb
[17:28] <franchoy> I installed plymouth manager but it doesn't work :(
[17:28] <franchoy> does anyone know how can I change my ugly bootsplash?..:(
[17:28] <franchoy> it has those texts...
[17:28] <franchoy> thanks
[17:29] <holstein> franchoy: you dual-booting?
[17:29] <holstein> OH, you mean GDM
[17:29] <holstein> not grub
[17:29] <franchoy> yes
[17:29] <holstein> NM
[17:29] <franchoy> Im using burg not grub
[17:32] <holstein> thats what its called
[17:32] <holstein> i was looking for a link to burg
[17:32] <holstein> personally, i cant imagine caring about it
[17:32] <holstein> since it flashes up there for a few seconds
[17:32] <holstein> but, what is the issue?
[17:32] <holstein> BURG is not working?
[17:33] <franchoy> I dont really got bothered on may login, but in my shutdown my screen looks like it has so many problems, the screen is blotted with texts..
[17:33] <franchoy> the splash screen..
[17:34] <holstein> so, its on the way out?
[17:34] <franchoy> it shows so many things
[17:34] <holstein> logout screen?
[17:34] <holstein> what are the messages?
[17:34] <holstein> maybe its something that needs attention
[17:34] <franchoy> cant understand.. I think its the process
[17:34] <franchoy> cause sometimes I see some commands like "kill"
[17:35] <holstein> i see 'checking for unattended updates'
[17:35] <holstein> and others
[17:35] <franchoy> yes, that's it..
[17:35] <franchoy> why does those text keeps on showing up?
[17:35] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1526402
[17:35] <holstein> maybe ^^
[17:36] <franchoy> it just irritates me, cause its like my laptop is broken or something..
[17:36] <holstein> yeah?
[17:36] <holstein> is it broken?
[17:36] <franchoy> its just a sore in the eye, thats all..
[17:36] <franchoy> no..
[17:36] <holstein> lol
[17:36] <franchoy> hehehe
[17:36] <holstein> i said it earlier
[17:36] <holstein> choose your battles ;)
[17:36] <stlsaint> how you folks doing this fine day?
[17:38] <franchoy> haha i looked at the forum, and the only helpful thing that I read there is not to look the screen... lol
[17:39] <holstein> you have the 'quiet' option?
[17:39] <holstein> http://superuser.com/questions/44280/hiding-the-boot-up-text-in-ubuntu
[17:40] <holstein> "ubuntu hide text on shutdown" is what i googled
[17:40] <holstein> if you want to weed through the results yourself
[17:43] <franchoy> holstein: thanks for the replies... but I can't seem to find the answer for my problem.. I've been searching for it for about a month now..
[17:43] <holstein> franchoy: so, you do have the quiet option then?
[17:44] <holstein> what did that do?
[17:44] <franchoy> yup..
[17:44] <franchoy> nothing..
[17:44] <franchoy> hehehe
[17:47] <holstein> franchoy: where did you put it?
[17:49] <franchoy> I just followed all the instructions
[17:57] <szczur> franchy, try to install some plymouth themes for example plymouth-theme-solar, and then check if this site helps you
[17:57] <szczur> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/quick-tipplymouth-themes-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[18:44] <DiegoTc_> duanedesign do you have one minute
[18:47] <kristian-aalborg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/metamail/2.7-54 <--- what should I do to get the package?
[18:47] <kristian-aalborg> would it be unwise to get the .deb?
[18:56] <duanedesign> kristian-aalborg: hello
[18:58] <duanedesign> kristian-aalborg: just download the .deb and double-click to install
[18:59] <kristian-aalborg> duanedesign: yes, I got it - seem to work
[19:00] <kristian-aalborg> I was a bit worried about an obsolete mail package, I was thinking about security
[20:10] <kristian-aalborg> can I start nano with a custom nanorc file?
[20:12] <bioterror> you can edit your .nanorc
[20:13] <kristian-aalborg> yes, but I have several uses for nano, and thus several needs for the setup
[20:13] <kristian-aalborg> so something like "nano - f mycustomnanorc" is what I'm looking for
[20:16] <charlie-tca> yes, if I recall correctly, you can speific it
[20:17] <charlie-tca> hm, well, specify it, anyway
[20:17] <kristian-aalborg> hi charlie-tca - do you remember how?
[20:18] <charlie-tca> I think by setting the operating directly with the different file in it, nano -o <dir>, it will automatically use the file in that dir
[20:19] <charlie-tca> You can also split it up using different name.nanorc files in ~/.nano
[20:20] <charlie-tca> and point to them using the .nano file itself. It then uses the correct settings for the type of file
[20:20] <jdmcclung> When I run dhclient wlan0  it runs DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 but that is not correct. How do I get it to check 255.255.255.0?
[20:21] <charlie-tca> kristian-aalborg: for example, my ~/.nanorc file specifies where the different name.nanorc files are, so it uses them automatically
[20:21] <kristian-aalborg> charlie-tca: pastebin, please?
[20:22] <charlie-tca> ~/.nanorc copied from /etc/nanorc
[20:23] <charlie-tca> http://paste.ubuntu.com/573640
[20:23] <charlie-tca> see the last lines
[20:24] <charlie-tca> starting about 330
[20:26] <charlie-tca> and see http://paste.ubuntu.com/573641 for the ~/.nano/python.nanorc     example
[20:27] <charlie-tca> nano will automatically use what is in that for any python file I edit
[20:28] <kristian-aalborg> brilliant
[20:29] <charlie-tca> It gets a little confusing with both ~/.nano file and directory, though
[20:29] <kristian-aalborg> fortran.nanorc!!
[20:29] <charlie-tca> I don't have that one
[20:29] <charlie-tca> but you can create it, as long as you tell nano about it
[20:31] <kristian-aalborg> I have it in /usr/share/nano
[20:31] <kristian-aalborg> charlie-tca: I'm building the World's greates text editor, anno 1983 with nano ;)
[20:32] <kristian-aalborg> *greatest
[20:32] <charlie-tca> Great! as long as nano's rc file can find it
[20:32] <charlie-tca> I use nano all the time from the command line. It is one really nice, easy editor
[20:32] <kristian-aalborg> it's really good for something lean - no disrespect to vim,  emacs etc/ the gui things
[20:33] <charlie-tca> I have never learned their odd keypresses
[20:33] <charlie-tca> and I have done their tutorials, every year of two, even
[20:33] <bioterror> when you deal with real servers, you have to deal with vi
[20:34] <charlie-tca> no, actually, I don't
[20:34] <charlie-tca> I can use nano because it works for me
[20:35] <geirha> Well, nano isn't very standard though. You'll mostly just find it on linux systems.
[20:35] <geirha> vi is on virtually any unix and unix-like system out there, so it's useful to know.
[20:36] <charlie-tca> Like I said, I can use both vi and emacs and vim, I just can't remember all the odd keys for them. Nano has a very nice menu on the bottom that I can use
[20:37] <kristian-aalborg> I'm going to edit .txt files - should be standard enough
[20:39] <geirha> Yeah, I used nano for a long time too, until I decided to go through vimtutor. Never looked back. :)
[20:39] <charlie-tca> I went through vimtutor, emacs tutor, etc, but still prefer nano
[20:40] <charlie-tca> Glad we have choices, too! :-)
[20:40] <geirha> On linux, yes. On UNIX, choices are hard ;)
[20:42] <geirha> I've had the "pleasure" of spending time with Solaris. It really helps you learn the hell of portability. :)
[20:59] <kristian-aalborg> charlie-tca: hmm, I get errors - ""Command line "include" not allowed in included file""
[21:00] <kristian-aalborg> I made a /usr/share/nano/txt.nanorc and copied my .nanorc there - same problem
[21:01] <charlie-tca> I think you have to move things to /home/USER/.nano for the NAME.nanorc files
[21:01] <charlie-tca> I don't think nano allows them to be anywhere else
[21:02] <charlie-tca> I could be wrong, though
[21:04] <charlie-tca> You did not put "include... " in the NAME.nanorc, did you?
[21:04] <charlie-tca> It can only be used in .nanorc for the user or /etc/nanorc
[21:05] <kristian-aalborg> ah
[21:05] <kristian-aalborg> I just copied my own .nanorc
[21:09] <kristian-aalborg> charlie-tca: same for "set" command, it seems?
[21:11] <charlie-tca> could be, since it is used to set the environment variables. Those are normally needed for everything, where the individual files are used to specify changes for those type of documents
[21:12] <kristian-aalborg> so, that stuff goes in an alias
[21:12] <kristian-aalborg> it's complicated to keep it simple ;)
[21:22] <kristian-aalborg> charlie-tca: won't work
[21:22] <kristian-aalborg> the error messages are gone, since I commented out the "wrong" commands
[21:22] <charlie-tca> Don't know, then
[21:23] <kristian-aalborg> now, when I do "nano /home/kristian/foo.txt " I get a new file each time
[21:25] <aveilleux> I'm having a problem with the Ubuntu Alternate CD (10.10). I'm using the Alternate CD because I want a CLI install, but it's refusing to let me install without Internet access. What's the point of the CD if you can't install an isolated system? I'd use the Netboot CD if I wanted to download components.
[21:26] <aveilleux> I was planning to use ndiswrapper for the wireless card once the system is already installed, but I can't even get that far.
[21:28] <charlie-tca> If you unplug the internet cable, it won't install?
[21:28] <charlie-tca> If it finds a cable or wireless connection, yes, it will use it
[21:29] <aveilleux> I don't have an available network connection. I'm not near a wired router and, as I mentioned, the wireless card requires ndiswrapper.
[21:33] <kristian-aalborg> http://pastebin.com/kd4Jz2EK this is my .bash_aliases ... please tell me where the last line fails, I'm going nuts!
[21:40] <kristian-aalborg> ah, it was a typo somewhere... I typed it up again and it worked ;)
[21:40] <charlie-tca> good, because I can't find what is wrong with it either
[21:40] <NRWlion> kristian-aalborg, good to hear ^^
[21:41] <johnny77> Can I use a live CD to install programs onto my HD?
[21:43] <seidos> i don't know, never tried it
[21:44] <seidos> you can install packages from a live cd, but not while booted into a live cd johnny77
[21:44] <seidos> johnny77: you want synaptic package manager i believe
[21:44] <charlie-tca> johnny77: yes, enable it in software sources, and it will use it
[21:46] <kristian-aalborg> I just can't get the word wrapping to work
[21:46] <kristian-aalborg> I need nano to be only "this wide", not allowing me to type beyond that
[21:46] <s-fox> =)
[21:47] <NRWlion> hey s-fox thx for your kind mail
[21:48] <s-fox> Hello NRWlion ,  no, thank you for taking the time to email us =)  It is good to meet you.
[21:51] <charlie-tca> kristian-aalborg: see the lines around 96 in my .nanorc file, http://paste.ubuntu.com/573640
[21:51] <NRWlion> afk
[21:51] <charlie-tca> change that -8 to different numbers until you find the right one, since it is line length minus the number
[21:52] <charlie-tca> That will force a specific line length, it is just hard to figure out
[21:56] <kristian-aalborg> this is the core of the problem, actually - I only want this when editing specific files (texts, that is)
[22:00] <kristian-aalborg> ah, so I start it with the command line, and "r -120" seems ok
[22:02] <NRWlion> back
[22:06] <NRWlion> s-fox, now you have a chance to get to know me a little more ;)
[22:06] <s-fox> Yes, though I think this is better continued in the off topic channel. =)
[22:23] <kristian-aalborg> at long last, I have something tolerable - thanks for helping out, y'all!
[22:30] <NRWlion> good night every1"