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TeTeTsmoser: thanks for the review, I'll update the exercise later this week. I need mgmt approval but will most likely publish it during the cloud days organized by kim0. Hope you like that idea15:45
smosercool. sure.15:45
kim0TeTeT: o/15:45
kim0How's that excercise gonna be used for the cloud days ?15:46
TeTeTsmoser: I'm also about to rewrite uec-describe-cloud using python boto instead of popen euca-describe-*, should be nicer code then15:46
TeTeTkim0: I would plan for a 20-30 minute session that goes step by step through the process of creating an instance which is hosted on an EBS volume. I would love to have screen sharing for this, will check if we can use spreed for that15:47
smoserTeTeT, yeah, that'd be nice. and again, i apologize for dropping the ball on that.15:47
smoserTeTeT, most of that could be done via 'screen' screen sharing15:48
smosergraphical might look better, but you can very easily share a screen session , allowing viewers to be read-only15:48
smoserkirkland has used that before for these talks.15:48
kirklandTeTeT: see the source for the screenbin package/project15:49
TeTeTsmoser: cool, I would have to host it on my own cloud as I doubt that IS would appreciate me giving outsider access to our virtual lab15:49
* kim0 waves at active community members Daviey, smoser, kirkland, RoAkSoAx, soren .. and everyone around here15:50
smoserTeTeT, well, we could maybe work around that.15:50
kim0Rock the Ubuntu cloud world, and register a session at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/ :)15:50
kirklandkim0: hi15:50
kim0kirkland: hey15:50
smosermaybe tunneling out of there... but yeah, that might get icky15:50
TeTeTkirkland: nice, so I could run it from ec2...15:51
kim0kirkland: looking forward to your session :)15:51
TeTeTsmoser: maybe tunneling to servera on the training lab and using the cloud credentials would be good enough. so any attacker would still need the password for servera15:51
kirklandkim0: session?15:59
kim0kirkland: indeed .. check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/16:00
kim0Everyone is invited to please contribute a session16:00
kim0The first ever Ubuntu Cloud Days16:00
kim0yaaaay :)16:00
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zulkim0; have you asked the openstack guys about it?16:45
kim0I pinged soren about it .. I'll go write #openstack now .. thanks16:45
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Edulixkim0: I've seen in  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/ that there's a reference to a "GaimHowto"18:46
Edulixwelcome to the past? :P18:46
kim0Edulix: the wonders of copy/paste18:46
* kim0 goes fixing ;)18:46
Edulix=)18:46
kim0Edulix: What about hosting a hadoop session18:50
* kim0 awaits a yes18:50
* Edulix takes a look at the dates18:50
Edulixkim0: what is exactly what is done in the sessions, they are some kind of irc tutorials?18:56
kim0Edulix: exactly18:57
kim0basic and easy stuff18:57
kim015 mins of talk time expanded in irc ;)18:57
Edulixthat seems reasonable18:57
EdulixI'm not using ubuntu cloud currently though :P I can explain how to create a simple hadoop application. is there any example session log I can take a look at?18:58
kim0Edulix: if u want .. there's currently ubuntu developer week training running19:02
kim0join #ubuntu-classroom19:02
kim0to get a feel19:02
kim0#ubuntu-classroom-chat .. is where people will chat and ask questions19:02
* Edulix has joined there19:02
* kim0 afk for a bit19:02
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crazedcloudinit is pretty damn awesome22:11
crazednow if other OSes would jsut port it22:11
kim0crazed: glad you're enjoying ubuntu ;)22:20
crazedit's the only os worth using on ec2 really22:21
kim0haha awesome :)22:22
kim0smoser is gonna like hearing that :)22:23
crazedwindows takes like 30 mins to boot, worthless22:23
crazedcentos has no official AMIs, and the rightscale ones are botched and gross22:23
smoserwoot22:24
erichammondcrazed: Amazon publishes a CentOS AMI under the name Amazon Linux, and they have included cloud-init from Ubuntu.22:24
crazedi thought so22:24
crazedbut it's not actually centos, it's got up-to-date packages hehe22:25
erichammond:)22:25
kim0lol22:26
* kim0 tweets that ;)22:26
crazedlol22:26
crazedcloudformation, chef, and cloudinit combined is pretty powerful22:29
crazedonly problem i'm seeing is how to make sure certain parts of the stack are configured before scripts are run on other parts22:29
crazedis it possible to set arbitrary variables in the userdata that can be used in user scripts?22:51
crazedi'm trying to set JSON data that will be used by chef, rather than having teh userscript create it (which doesn't do well for reusing the same cloud-configs)22:52
kim0why not read from an external url22:52
crazedi plan on storing stuff that shouldn't be accessible from anywhere22:52
crazedi did think of that though.. it was a good idea until i was dealing with database paswords22:53
crazedhm.. could put them in a git repo i suppose and pull down over ssh22:56
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